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10yr old boy with very bad tonsilitis
My son has come down with tonsilitis again, he had it two weeks ago. We went through various remedies with our homeopath and nothing helped. It got so bad and he was so distressed that he ended up on antibiotics which seemed to work, however the swelling didn't really go down last week and he awoke last night with fever and pain. We went back to the doctor today who told us that it is viral and so antibiotics wont help. His tonsils are very swollen, his jaw is sitting slightly forward and his voice sounds different. It hurts when he swallows with pain going up into his ears. It is more right sided at the moment. He feels very angry and frustrated. He doesn't want to take anymore homeopathy because he says it doesn't help. Although he hasn't had tonsilitis for about a year, when it comes on it is very very powerful. Can you suggest any remedies that will help/reduce the swelling. We have tried Lac Can, Nux Vomica, Belladonna, Phytolacca, Merc Sol, Silicea,last year we also tried Baryta Carb and Baptisia, they too didn't work. It was thought that Lac Can was his constitutional remedy. He is quite pale with thick dirty blonde hair. He is very robust and wiry. He is proud. He is very bright but finds maths very difficult to understand and is not great at spelling, he does not like to admit this. He gets impatient and frustrated easily. He prefers talking and interacting than being on his own. He has never played in his room on his own. I took him to see a homeopath because he still occasionally wets the bed. Lac Can may have helped with that but I can't be sure yet. He sleeps very very deeply. If you can help at all that would be great.
jeanmarie on 2009-05-13
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pls take only one dose of of Nit acid 10M (2 drops mixed with 10ml water)
and wait for a week. and report me..
dr.deoshlok sharma
and wait for a week. and report me..
dr.deoshlok sharma
♡ deoshlok last decade
Such a high dose (10M) to begin with will render his case incurable. You should try to get a Classical Homeopath to look at this case. Please fill up following questionaire :
1. Describe your main suffering?
2. What other physical sufferings do you have in your body?
3. What mental sufferings / feelings do you have associated with your physical sufferings?
4. What exactly do you feel when you are at your worst?
5. When did it all start? Can you connect it to any past event or disease?
6. Which time of the day you are worst?
7. What are the things which aggravate your suffering and which are those which ameliorate the same?
8. Do your think your sufferings have relation to any external stimuli (like, change of place) or any internal biological changes in the body, like, menses (in females)?
9. When do you feel better, during hot weather or cold weather, humid or dry weather?
10. Describe your general mental set up? Are you Moody, Arrogant, Mild, Agreeable Changeable, Nervous, Suspicious, Easily offended, Quiet, Arguing, Irritating, Lazy etc.
- How do you feel before or during a thunderstorm?
- Do you like being consoled during your tough times?
- Are you sensitive to external stimuli like smell, noise, light etc?
- Do you have any typical habit or gesture like nail biting, causeless
weeping, talking to one self etc?
- How do you feel about your friends, family, your children and especially your husband / wife?
11. What are your fears and do you dream of any situation repeatedly?
12. What do you crave for in food items and what are your aversions?
13. How is your thirst: Less, Normal or Excessive?
14. How if your hunger: Less, Normal or Excessive?
15. Is there any kind of food which your body cant stand?
16. Is your sweat normal or less or more? Where does it sweat more: Head, Trunk or Limbs?
17. How is your bowel movement and stool type?
18. How well do you sleep? Do you have a particular posture of sleeping?
19. Do you think you are able to satisfy your sexual desires in general?
20. What peculiar or strange sensation do you have in any part of your body at times? Do you sometimes feel as if .. in some part of the body?
21. What medications have been taken earlier by you to treat the diseases and do you have any particular symptom surfacing after the medication?
22. What major diseases are running in your family?
23. Describe, how do you look like? Describe your overall appearance.
1. Describe your main suffering?
2. What other physical sufferings do you have in your body?
3. What mental sufferings / feelings do you have associated with your physical sufferings?
4. What exactly do you feel when you are at your worst?
5. When did it all start? Can you connect it to any past event or disease?
6. Which time of the day you are worst?
7. What are the things which aggravate your suffering and which are those which ameliorate the same?
8. Do your think your sufferings have relation to any external stimuli (like, change of place) or any internal biological changes in the body, like, menses (in females)?
9. When do you feel better, during hot weather or cold weather, humid or dry weather?
10. Describe your general mental set up? Are you Moody, Arrogant, Mild, Agreeable Changeable, Nervous, Suspicious, Easily offended, Quiet, Arguing, Irritating, Lazy etc.
- How do you feel before or during a thunderstorm?
- Do you like being consoled during your tough times?
- Are you sensitive to external stimuli like smell, noise, light etc?
- Do you have any typical habit or gesture like nail biting, causeless
weeping, talking to one self etc?
- How do you feel about your friends, family, your children and especially your husband / wife?
11. What are your fears and do you dream of any situation repeatedly?
12. What do you crave for in food items and what are your aversions?
13. How is your thirst: Less, Normal or Excessive?
14. How if your hunger: Less, Normal or Excessive?
15. Is there any kind of food which your body cant stand?
16. Is your sweat normal or less or more? Where does it sweat more: Head, Trunk or Limbs?
17. How is your bowel movement and stool type?
18. How well do you sleep? Do you have a particular posture of sleeping?
19. Do you think you are able to satisfy your sexual desires in general?
20. What peculiar or strange sensation do you have in any part of your body at times? Do you sometimes feel as if .. in some part of the body?
21. What medications have been taken earlier by you to treat the diseases and do you have any particular symptom surfacing after the medication?
22. What major diseases are running in your family?
23. Describe, how do you look like? Describe your overall appearance.
SheetalJain last decade
Dear Jeanmaire,
the current episode has to be addressed at this stage .once the acute setteles then the constitutional treatement has to be instituted .
please mention hows the childs tongue , thirst ,reaction to heat & cold at the moment i.e. whether the child is feeling cold or hot more,
sleep pattern currently i.e. talking or moaning or anything during sleep,distribution of heat during fever i.e. which part of the body is more hot etc.
the current episode has to be addressed at this stage .once the acute setteles then the constitutional treatement has to be instituted .
please mention hows the childs tongue , thirst ,reaction to heat & cold at the moment i.e. whether the child is feeling cold or hot more,
sleep pattern currently i.e. talking or moaning or anything during sleep,distribution of heat during fever i.e. which part of the body is more hot etc.
Dr Vrushali last decade
answer these questions as early as possible & think twice before giving any medicine in a very high potency
Dr Vrushali last decade
Thank you. I will take a little time to fill in the long questionnaire.
His tongue is quite pale but not too bad. He says he gets hot and cold, it changes, there is no particular reaction to heat or cold. He feels thirsty but finds it difficult to swallow anything. I have given him some calpol and hopefully he will sleep now, he snores when sleeping because of the swelling. His mood is bad, he is very angry almost despairing. The swelling and pain are mostly on the right, it is sore with pain going into his ears when he swallows. As he is a brave boy I know he must be feeling very bad. I feel quite despairing as I cannot help him.
His tongue is quite pale but not too bad. He says he gets hot and cold, it changes, there is no particular reaction to heat or cold. He feels thirsty but finds it difficult to swallow anything. I have given him some calpol and hopefully he will sleep now, he snores when sleeping because of the swelling. His mood is bad, he is very angry almost despairing. The swelling and pain are mostly on the right, it is sore with pain going into his ears when he swallows. As he is a brave boy I know he must be feeling very bad. I feel quite despairing as I cannot help him.
jeanmarie last decade
Dr Vrushali last decade
till then give him hot salt water gargles & honey to sooth the throat give him tulsi leaves to chew on ,
hot soups with lots of black pepper should be good for his diet
hot soups with lots of black pepper should be good for his diet
Dr Vrushali last decade
Thank you very much, I will give him the Aconite 200. Just to clarify I will give him 4 pills every 3 hours. I will try the salt water and the soups, but he finds it almost impossible to swallow at the moment. I will let you know of his progress.
jeanmarie last decade
yes you got it right start with Aconite 200 4pills 3 hourly .
if he doesnt take water at least start with honey
if he doesnt take water at least start with honey
Dr Vrushali last decade
Hi. After the first dose of Aconite he had a good sleep. When he woke up his mood was much less angry which made him easier to look after a bit more compliant. The swelling seemed to be going down a little bit and he is not really snoring as much when he sleeps. However last night he woke twice in the night and on the second occasion insisted on getting into bed with us. The pain in his throat and ear (when he swallows) has got worse. It is still right sided. He has a little more colour in his face. He still feels hot and cold. He would not have any soup yesterday, he had some lime sorbet and a little yoghurt and honey, that was all. Look forward to hearing what you think. Thank you
jeanmarie last decade
Hi continue with Aconite in the same manner his general complaints are going away which is a good sign .
Let him sleep with you if he insists as kids get better with care better than the medicines .
Meanwhile if you get time answer that long questionaire so that we can start with his deep acting medicione as soon as his acute copmplaints settle .
this will help prolonging & eventually stopping of the recurrence.
keep me updated.
Let him sleep with you if he insists as kids get better with care better than the medicines .
Meanwhile if you get time answer that long questionaire so that we can start with his deep acting medicione as soon as his acute copmplaints settle .
this will help prolonging & eventually stopping of the recurrence.
keep me updated.
Dr Vrushali last decade
Thank you very much! I will answer the questions as I can. I will keep you informed of his progress.
jeanmarie last decade
I have answered some of the following on his behalf.
1. Main Suffering at present, tonsilitis. This is always his illness, unless it's earache. He does not have milk. He loves cheese.
2. No other physical sufferings really, occasionally wets the bed.
3. Feels angry and embarrassed when he's wet the bed. He will often be rude and difficult when this has happened. Very occasionally he will not mention that it has happened. He cannot bear for anyone to know about it. When he went on a trip with the school for a week I had to tell his teacher. When I told him this he was furious and very upset. (Understandably I supppose). In general he is quite anxious, he always wants to know what is being talked about or discussed around him. He wants to know all the details, even if they are not at all relevant to him. He will persist even if you tell him it is not his business. He is proud and will not acknowledge that he finds certain things difficult to do, such as maths. He will get frustrated when trying to do his homework and so just hurries through it. He wants you to tell him how to spell things rather than work it out, as he doesn't want it to take any longer. He hates to write things out in rough first or make changes if he has made mistakes. At school he pretended to read a book that was too difficult for him because his friends were.
He hates being told to have a nap.
4. No answer at the moment.
5. When he was still a baby his father left. He didn't see him until he was about three and a half. He saw him a few times until he was five and then his father stopped coming when I met someone else. He gets on very very well with my partner. His moods/anger started when he was about three years old, perhaps around the time he went to nursery (prior to meeting his Dad). He liked the nursery and was never upset to be left there. His anger then may have been tiredness. When he gets overtired now he becomes a bit hyperactive, will be asked to do something, over and over again, we get cross with him then he gets angry.
6. Can often be grumpy in the mornings and evenings.
7. Homework, doing anything he doesn't want to do makes him angry/stroppy. Skateboarding, hanging out with friends, watching a dvd makes him feel good.
8. He couldn't answer that.
9. He doesn't seem bothered by either.
10. He can get very nervous, suspicious, can be easily offended depending on his mood, arguing, irritating.
Thunderstorms don't bother him. He likes it when he's watching a dvd and it's raining outside. Likes to be consoled during tough times. Likes 'medium' light (not too bright or dark). Bites his nails, picks his nose (when on his own. He says he always thinks about the same thing 'is my family my real family'.
11. Doesn't dream particularly. / He wont help with anymore questions. He can only mumble with extreme effort and he says it won't work. I will continue with what I know. - Until quite recently he was afraid of older boys that weren't like him (chavs) He started doing kick boxing, I wasn't so aware of his fear anymore. During the easter holidays he became closer with a 14year old friend of his and they hung out a lot, skateboarding. They got chased by some of these boys a number of times - seeing how his friend and his mates handled it 'seemed' to make him less fearfull of these boys. He sometimes says that he worries about me or my mother dying.
12. He loves pasta and spicy food. He likes to put chilli flakes on his pasta.
13. He dosn't drink much at all now. I try to make him drink more water. When he was younger he used to drink a lot of water.
14. He has a very good appetite when he is well.
15. He can't eat fresh tomatoes.
16. Doesn't sweat much.
17. Pretty good bowel movement, not sure on stool type.
18. He sleeps very very deeply. When he wet the bed more frequently we would put him on the loo before we went to bed, it was often impossible to wake him, he would be very very rude but wouldn't remember it in the morning. Sleeps on his side mostly.
19. Not applicable, I don't think.
20. Can't answer that right now.
21. Various homeopathic remedies - Tub., Nux Vom LM1 combo, Carduus (liquid, Lac Can. Lac Can may have helped reduce the bedwetting, didn't help when the tonsilitis first set in.
22. None that I can think of. His sister has some form of dyslexia and I think perhaps he is discalculic (numbers)
23. Pale but tans easily. Very thick quite coarse blondish hair, smallish quite delicate face, blue eyes, dark circles under eyes. Slim build quite muscular, strong hands and feet, not short or stubby but not fine.
I hope this helps a bit.
1. Main Suffering at present, tonsilitis. This is always his illness, unless it's earache. He does not have milk. He loves cheese.
2. No other physical sufferings really, occasionally wets the bed.
3. Feels angry and embarrassed when he's wet the bed. He will often be rude and difficult when this has happened. Very occasionally he will not mention that it has happened. He cannot bear for anyone to know about it. When he went on a trip with the school for a week I had to tell his teacher. When I told him this he was furious and very upset. (Understandably I supppose). In general he is quite anxious, he always wants to know what is being talked about or discussed around him. He wants to know all the details, even if they are not at all relevant to him. He will persist even if you tell him it is not his business. He is proud and will not acknowledge that he finds certain things difficult to do, such as maths. He will get frustrated when trying to do his homework and so just hurries through it. He wants you to tell him how to spell things rather than work it out, as he doesn't want it to take any longer. He hates to write things out in rough first or make changes if he has made mistakes. At school he pretended to read a book that was too difficult for him because his friends were.
He hates being told to have a nap.
4. No answer at the moment.
5. When he was still a baby his father left. He didn't see him until he was about three and a half. He saw him a few times until he was five and then his father stopped coming when I met someone else. He gets on very very well with my partner. His moods/anger started when he was about three years old, perhaps around the time he went to nursery (prior to meeting his Dad). He liked the nursery and was never upset to be left there. His anger then may have been tiredness. When he gets overtired now he becomes a bit hyperactive, will be asked to do something, over and over again, we get cross with him then he gets angry.
6. Can often be grumpy in the mornings and evenings.
7. Homework, doing anything he doesn't want to do makes him angry/stroppy. Skateboarding, hanging out with friends, watching a dvd makes him feel good.
8. He couldn't answer that.
9. He doesn't seem bothered by either.
10. He can get very nervous, suspicious, can be easily offended depending on his mood, arguing, irritating.
Thunderstorms don't bother him. He likes it when he's watching a dvd and it's raining outside. Likes to be consoled during tough times. Likes 'medium' light (not too bright or dark). Bites his nails, picks his nose (when on his own. He says he always thinks about the same thing 'is my family my real family'.
11. Doesn't dream particularly. / He wont help with anymore questions. He can only mumble with extreme effort and he says it won't work. I will continue with what I know. - Until quite recently he was afraid of older boys that weren't like him (chavs) He started doing kick boxing, I wasn't so aware of his fear anymore. During the easter holidays he became closer with a 14year old friend of his and they hung out a lot, skateboarding. They got chased by some of these boys a number of times - seeing how his friend and his mates handled it 'seemed' to make him less fearfull of these boys. He sometimes says that he worries about me or my mother dying.
12. He loves pasta and spicy food. He likes to put chilli flakes on his pasta.
13. He dosn't drink much at all now. I try to make him drink more water. When he was younger he used to drink a lot of water.
14. He has a very good appetite when he is well.
15. He can't eat fresh tomatoes.
16. Doesn't sweat much.
17. Pretty good bowel movement, not sure on stool type.
18. He sleeps very very deeply. When he wet the bed more frequently we would put him on the loo before we went to bed, it was often impossible to wake him, he would be very very rude but wouldn't remember it in the morning. Sleeps on his side mostly.
19. Not applicable, I don't think.
20. Can't answer that right now.
21. Various homeopathic remedies - Tub., Nux Vom LM1 combo, Carduus (liquid, Lac Can. Lac Can may have helped reduce the bedwetting, didn't help when the tonsilitis first set in.
22. None that I can think of. His sister has some form of dyslexia and I think perhaps he is discalculic (numbers)
23. Pale but tans easily. Very thick quite coarse blondish hair, smallish quite delicate face, blue eyes, dark circles under eyes. Slim build quite muscular, strong hands and feet, not short or stubby but not fine.
I hope this helps a bit.
jeanmarie last decade
He is very upset by the pain. He has tears in his eyes. It doesn't really seem to be helped by Calpol/painkiller. He says nothing helps. He can barely speak.
jeanmarie last decade
Hi, has the progress come to hault ? has teh pain increased can you ghet him examined by a practitioner & tell me the report as with the symptoms the clinical findings are also imp to know
Dr Vrushali last decade
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