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Can I Take BOth Gelsemium and Aconite at a time?

Can I Take Both Gelsemium and Aconite at a time?
 
  pocari on 2009-12-27
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Aconite is indicated when the symtoms appear suddenly. Gels is indicated when the symptoms develop gradually. So these two should not be taken together.
 
kadwa last decade
thank you for your reply. what mean by the term , appearence of symtoms suddenly and development of symptoms gradually. Actually I read about gels and aconite and my symptoms are very similar to these two medicines? what should i do now? Please help me out, I'll be thankful to you
 
pocari last decade
Suddenly means if someone goes outside in winter and catches cold due to cold winds. On the other hand if someone always suffers from cold then that is not suddenly.
 
kadwa last decade
again thank you for explaining, kindly tell me what should i do now? actually i read about gelsemium and aconite nepallus and my symptoms are very similar to these two medicines?
 
pocari last decade
plz dear i m waiting
 
pocari last decade
As a thumb rule if your complaints are old, go for gels. If they have have developed recently go for aconite.
 
kadwa last decade
How can you resemble both dear?

Aconite is an intense remedy - fast & furious. It often comes in during the onset of symptoms (disease if you will).

Gelsemium is a chilly remedy - dull, droopy & drowsy.

The character of remedies is very different. It is very difficult for the uninitiated to differentiate between the remedies. It would be better for you to post all your symptoms and let kadwa pick a remedy dear.
 
srisri last decade
And as a rule of thumb, no 2 remedies should be taken at a time.
 
srisri last decade
I am 28 years old with fair complexion, my height is 5.5 feet and my weight is 68 kg.
First of all I have sleeping disorder, I often feel that I have incomplete sleep, my sleep has no specific timing, for whole day and night there is no sign of sleep and when it came, Oh! My God, continuous 12 hour or even 18 hours, it seems that I have sleeplessness as a disease.
Second problem is related to my mind, I am very coward person, it seems that freight is located in base of my mind, I feel all kind of fears (height, riding, water, air rain, noise etc) and my every day life is strongly effected by fear or freight.
Third one I am slow beginner, I need a lot of courage to start any work even for basic necessities like taking breakfast, law of inertia is fit on my condition I need a lot of force and courage to start a work and during work I am not ready to stop.
Fourthly I do not have will power or power of decision.
At last but not least, main problem is related to my body, I have severe trembling shivering in my whole body
At sitting position there is trembling in my head and in my hands, at standing position my legs also start trembling accompanied by head and hand. When I stretch my body there is trembling and shivering in every part of my body. These conditions become sever when under anxiety.
 
pocari last decade
day 1
Please take three doses of Phosphorus 200c thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours.

One dose means
If the medicine is in pills form 4 pills. Don't touch pills with hand. Use cap of bottle to take pills.
If the medicine is in liquid dilution form, 3-4 drops in some 20 ml water. Sip up slowly.

day 2 to day 15
please take 4 pellets of kali phos 6x thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours

Please follow homeo restrictions like no coffee, no raw onion/garlic, no strong perfumes, don't eat or drink anything within 30 minutes before or after taking medicine.

Please read my posts on the breathing exercises called as Anulom Vilom Pranayam and Kapalbhati Pranayam by following the links given below. Please practise these pranayams regularly for half an hour preferably in a garden early in the morning. You may practise at any other convinient time. The only restriction that you have to follow is not to do these exercises within 4 hours after meals. You can have meals not within 15 minutes after finishing these exercises.
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/133092/1
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/134752/
 
kadwa last decade
it should be
Please take three doses of Phosphorus 200c at a gap of 4 hours.

instead of
Please take three doses of Phosphorus 200c thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours.
 
kadwa last decade
Interesting prescription Kadwa. Can you explain the choice?

From the given info and subject to further elicitation, I thought Opium or Carbo Veg are indicated. Have you considered those?
 
srisri last decade
The mental symptoms of the patient are marked by anxiety and fear. The prominent polychrest that are indicated here are ars, lyco and phos.
The pattern of sleeplessness and deep sleep alternating also point to phos.
Lyco follows phos well.
Such patients are best treated by breathing exercises as these exercises help in balancing mind and body over a period of time.
 
kadwa last decade
Sorry doctor, I did not mentioned my case history it starts in 1998, here I am going to summaries.
First I thought my trembling symptoms are due to general weakness and went to a doctor, he gave me multivit-tablets and capsules, I used that for long time but symptoms remain same.
Then I consulted a Homeopathic doctor he had given me same prescription as you advised me, I had taken these medicines for more than four months.
After that I visited Psychiatrist for better results (because I thought I am suffering from lack of confidence or I have low confidence), he gave me Tranquilizers sleeping pills, it worked but as for as I am taking the medicines I am fit if I miss one dose then I am at start point.
At the end I went to a Neuro-Physician he diagnosed my symptoms as Essential Tremor and given me prescription as taking INDERAL 20mg one tablet in the morning, half tablet LEXATONIL 3mg before going to bed and breathing exercise before sun rise.
Now I feel that I am minimizing symptoms only and not curing my disease

I need a remedy that is indicated when any one has feelings of weakness (not weak), trembling (whole body, every part of body specially head) , general debility, trembling from nervous weakness and mental dullness (being 'paralyzed by fear'). that is also useful when a person experiences anxiety about an upcoming event such as stage-fright about a public performance or interview, or anxiety before a test, impending visit to the dentist, or other stressful events. Chills, perspiration, diarrhea will often occur with nervousness. Fear of crowds, a fear of falling, and even only fear.
 
pocari last decade
I need a remedy that is indicated when any one has feelings of weakness (not weak), trembling (whole body, every part of body specially head) , general debility, trembling from nervous weakness and mental dullness (being 'paralyzed by fear'). that is also useful when a person experiences anxiety about an upcoming event such as stage-fright about a public performance or interview, or anxiety before a test, impending visit to the dentist, or other stressful events. Chills, perspiration, diarrhea will often occur with nervousness. Fear of crowds, a fear of falling, and even only fear. plz help me
 
pocari last decade
You may take the following remedies one by one with a gap of 15 days. You may follow the remedy with kali phos 6x as shown above. Please don't move to the next remedy if there is relief in your symptoms.
Gelsemium 200
Carbo Veg 200

i assume that you have already taken phos and lyco.
 
kadwa last decade
thank you doctor, so nice of you,
i will follow following pattern
(a)
day 1
i’ll take three doses of phosphorus 200c at a gap of 4 hours.
day 2 to day 15
i’ll take 4 pellets of kali phos 6x thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours
then
i’ll wait for 15 days. (15+15=30)
(b)
day 31
i’ll take three doses of phosphorus 200c at a gap of 4 hours.
day 32 to day 46
i’ll take three doses of lyco200 at a gap of 4 hours.
i’ll wait for 15 days. (46+15=61)
(c.)
day 61
i’ll take three doses of phosphorus 200c at a gap of 4 hours.
day 21 to day 76
i’ll take 4 pellets of gelsemium200c thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours
then
i’ll wait for 15 days. (76+15=91)
(d)
day 92
i’ll take three doses of phosphorus 200c at a gap of 4 hours.
day 93 to 106 day
i’ll take 4 pellets of carbo veg 200 thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours
 
pocari last decade
i shall move to next remedy if there is relief or any other reaction if i forgot any thing let me to know
 
pocari last decade
sorry,
i shall not move to next remedy if there is relief or any other reaction if i forgot any thing let me to know
 
pocari last decade
Please follow the schedule given below. You are repeating phos too much in your schedule. A gap of 15 days means kali phos for 15 days.

day 1
Please take three doses of Phosphorus 200c thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours.

day 2 to day 15
please take 4 pellets of Kali Phos 6x thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours

If there is relief stop
If no relief go further
day 16
Please take three doses of Lycopodium 200c thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours.

day 17 to day 32
please take 4 pellets of kali phos 6x thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours

If there is relief stop
If no relief go further
day 33
Please take three doses of Carbo Veg 200c thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours.

day 34 to day 49
please take 4 pellets of kali phos 6x thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours

If there is relief stop
If no relief go further
day 50
Please take three doses of Gelsemium 200c thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours.

day 51 to day 66
please take 4 pellets of kali phos 6x thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours

You may come here and post details at any stage.
 
kadwa last decade
thank you doctor, i will follow the instructions.

another point that i have not mentioned that i am using inderal 40mg should i continue with that or stop using that medicine.
 
pocari last decade
You should taper off the allopathic medicine after starting the homeo medication. By the way if your problems have started after drug addiction, you should start your treatment with Opium 200c.

In that case

day 1
Please take three doses of Opium 200c thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours.

day 2 to day 15
please take 4 pellets of kali phos 6x thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours

and the treatment plan given above will shift forward by 15 days.

Opium 200c doesn't contain a single molecule of opium, so you needn't worry while buying.
 
kadwa last decade
thank you very very very much
 
pocari last decade
dr. kadwa! your attention is required, i have bought phosphorus 200 in pills form and kali phos 6x in tablet form not in pills forms, last time you told me that i should take 4 pellets of Kali Phos 6x three times in day, now how many tablets should i take?
 
pocari last decade
If 'Two Grain Tablet' is written on the container you should take 2 tablets. If nothing like that is written 4 tablets.
 
kadwa last decade

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