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Chikungunya & Rheumatoid Arthritis- can anyone respond?
Does the patients who have been infected by Chikungunya are likely to have symptoms like RA (Rheumatoid Arthritis) or may get the disease? My wife had Chikungunya in October 2010 in Noida, UP and joint pains were so severe that she had to be put on Steroids which have been stopped now but her pains continue. She has been diagonised with RA by a doctor in USA who do not have much knowledge on Chikungunya. Any advice?[message edited by gsc3462 on Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:18:51 BST]
gsc3462 on 2011-04-11
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
The remedy I have used to CURE Chikungunya (CKG) is
Polyporous Pinicola 200c in the Wet dose taken thrice daily.
Arnica 30c in the Wet dose taken twice daily.
I have helped hundreds of patients who presented this disease about 3 years ago in Sri Lanka and they usually respond in 24 hours when the patient who suffered from excruciating joint pains, high fever, lack of appetite, foul taste on tongue recover in a miraculous manner virtually overnight.
You will have to get this remedy from India as it will not be available in the US. It is not available in all Homeopathic pharmacies in India but you can get it from:
CHENNAI
The Homeopathic Center
100 First Floor
Dr Muthulakshmi Salai
Opp Nerct Electronics
Adyar
Chennai 20
009144 24404393
I do not think that you can get it in the Alcohol pack from India by courier but you can get it in the dry pellets which are not as effective but hopefully will work. The Liquid pack can be hand carried by someone if you can arrange it.
The main need is to get it ASAP and give it to your wife.
Forget that she has RA. This is very unlikely as your US doctors know nothing about CKG
The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:
Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.
Report progress in a week after you start this therapy.
Polyporous Pinicola 200c in the Wet dose taken thrice daily.
Arnica 30c in the Wet dose taken twice daily.
I have helped hundreds of patients who presented this disease about 3 years ago in Sri Lanka and they usually respond in 24 hours when the patient who suffered from excruciating joint pains, high fever, lack of appetite, foul taste on tongue recover in a miraculous manner virtually overnight.
You will have to get this remedy from India as it will not be available in the US. It is not available in all Homeopathic pharmacies in India but you can get it from:
CHENNAI
The Homeopathic Center
100 First Floor
Dr Muthulakshmi Salai
Opp Nerct Electronics
Adyar
Chennai 20
009144 24404393
I do not think that you can get it in the Alcohol pack from India by courier but you can get it in the dry pellets which are not as effective but hopefully will work. The Liquid pack can be hand carried by someone if you can arrange it.
The main need is to get it ASAP and give it to your wife.
Forget that she has RA. This is very unlikely as your US doctors know nothing about CKG
The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:
Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.
Report progress in a week after you start this therapy.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
I failed to mention in my last post that the symptoms of CKG seem to recur in many patients over the period of some years sometimes on an annual basis at about the same time that they were cured. The same body and joint aches occur but at an attenuated level with loss of appetite and a slight fever and the patient is sometimes forced to have bed rest for a few days.
It was only last week that a patient whom I had cured of CKG 3 years ago, presented the same symptoms of CKG and consulted specialist doctors who had subjected her to multiple tests at the request of her daughter who was a doctor herself. All tests including US Scans, Xrays, Blood tests and many other tests proved negative but the patient was suffering from general malaise and what is worse is that she could not sleep.
After about 2 weeks of tests her husband consulted me and related the various investigations that she had been subjected to which was foxing her many specialist doctors.
I took a blind chance in diagnosis and gave her the same remedy Polyporous Pinicola 200c in the Wet dose and prayed that I had diagnosed her condition correctly.
The patient phoned me in about 18 hours after she had taken 2 doses of the remedy and informed me that her joint pains and her fever had left her virtually overnight and that she would visit me to thank me for her miraculous recovery as soon as she was mobile.
She did so a couple of days later.
It was only last week that a patient whom I had cured of CKG 3 years ago, presented the same symptoms of CKG and consulted specialist doctors who had subjected her to multiple tests at the request of her daughter who was a doctor herself. All tests including US Scans, Xrays, Blood tests and many other tests proved negative but the patient was suffering from general malaise and what is worse is that she could not sleep.
After about 2 weeks of tests her husband consulted me and related the various investigations that she had been subjected to which was foxing her many specialist doctors.
I took a blind chance in diagnosis and gave her the same remedy Polyporous Pinicola 200c in the Wet dose and prayed that I had diagnosed her condition correctly.
The patient phoned me in about 18 hours after she had taken 2 doses of the remedy and informed me that her joint pains and her fever had left her virtually overnight and that she would visit me to thank me for her miraculous recovery as soon as she was mobile.
She did so a couple of days later.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Hello,
Thank you for the information. It has been almost 1 year since I recovered from Chikungunya which I got while living in Chennai. I suddenly feel the same symptoms coming on: pain in joints, tiredness, etc. that I had before. The only difference is now my fever is not as high. I feel better reading that the illness can come back again because I was really scared as the doctor here in Iraq was talking about rheumatoid arthritis. They have no experience here with chikungunya.
Thanks for your informative website.
Happyteacher
Thank you for the information. It has been almost 1 year since I recovered from Chikungunya which I got while living in Chennai. I suddenly feel the same symptoms coming on: pain in joints, tiredness, etc. that I had before. The only difference is now my fever is not as high. I feel better reading that the illness can come back again because I was really scared as the doctor here in Iraq was talking about rheumatoid arthritis. They have no experience here with chikungunya.
Thanks for your informative website.
Happyteacher
happyteacher last decade
To Happy
Your remedy is Polyporous Pinicola 200 which you will take twice daily in the Wet dose till all your symptoms pass away which is usually in about 2 days.
Read the other cases on this thread for more information.
Your remedy is Polyporous Pinicola 200 which you will take twice daily in the Wet dose till all your symptoms pass away which is usually in about 2 days.
Read the other cases on this thread for more information.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Hi,
I know a 22 year old female who got chikungunya in February 2009. Since then she has been suffering from Rheumatoid Arthiritis. She has visited multiple doctors and has been on various medication but to no avail. Can anyone please advice? She is also from an economically poor family hence proper nourishment is an issue but it is very saddening to see a young person struggle so much so early in life and now it is over 5 years since it all started.
I know a 22 year old female who got chikungunya in February 2009. Since then she has been suffering from Rheumatoid Arthiritis. She has visited multiple doctors and has been on various medication but to no avail. Can anyone please advice? She is also from an economically poor family hence proper nourishment is an issue but it is very saddening to see a young person struggle so much so early in life and now it is over 5 years since it all started.
Ritasri last decade
Rheumatoid Arthritis (RA) after Chikungunya is perhaps another manifestation of the classical CKG symptoms which are not easily recognized by both medical doctors and Homeopaths simply because the classical homeopaths will insist on treating the 'symptoms presented by the patient' which never works. RA has never been reported to me up to now and I hope that my default therapy can help this patient.
The fact remains that I have saved many patients from a grisly end and many more from the excruciating post-CKG symptoms of aches and pains presented by some patients many years after they were visited by this dread disease for which there is reportedly NO CURE.
It is interesting to record that a patient whom I had CURED of CKG in 2008 in Colombo when we had an epidemic of CKG, presented the same body aches and other symptoms without a temperature about 2 years ago and she was warded in the leading private hospital in Colombo by her daughter who was herself a qualified doctor. The problem that both she (the daughter) and the physicians in the hospital could not identify was the reason why the patient was unable to get up from her bed as she seemed to be lifeless when all seemed OK.
When the patient was cleared of all disease on the basis of her medical tests she was referred to me as someone in the family had remembered that it was I that had cured her some years previously.
All I did was to give her the same Polyporous Pinicola 200c in the Wet dose which I had dispensed to hundreds of patients in 2008 including this patient and she surprised the family by arising from her bed in about 6 hours.
Such is the POWER of Homeopathy when used as prescribed by a physician who cares !
I must admit that I cannot guarantee any amelioration of this patient's Rheumatoid Arthritis but there is no harm in giving the same remedy in the Wet dose thrice daily and I would appreciate if you will please care to report your patient's response in 48 hours.
The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:
Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.
Do not use Coffee, Cola beverages, preserved foods like sausages, ham and bacon as they contain Saltpeter.
The fact remains that I have saved many patients from a grisly end and many more from the excruciating post-CKG symptoms of aches and pains presented by some patients many years after they were visited by this dread disease for which there is reportedly NO CURE.
It is interesting to record that a patient whom I had CURED of CKG in 2008 in Colombo when we had an epidemic of CKG, presented the same body aches and other symptoms without a temperature about 2 years ago and she was warded in the leading private hospital in Colombo by her daughter who was herself a qualified doctor. The problem that both she (the daughter) and the physicians in the hospital could not identify was the reason why the patient was unable to get up from her bed as she seemed to be lifeless when all seemed OK.
When the patient was cleared of all disease on the basis of her medical tests she was referred to me as someone in the family had remembered that it was I that had cured her some years previously.
All I did was to give her the same Polyporous Pinicola 200c in the Wet dose which I had dispensed to hundreds of patients in 2008 including this patient and she surprised the family by arising from her bed in about 6 hours.
Such is the POWER of Homeopathy when used as prescribed by a physician who cares !
I must admit that I cannot guarantee any amelioration of this patient's Rheumatoid Arthritis but there is no harm in giving the same remedy in the Wet dose thrice daily and I would appreciate if you will please care to report your patient's response in 48 hours.
The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:
Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.
Do not use Coffee, Cola beverages, preserved foods like sausages, ham and bacon as they contain Saltpeter.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Hi Joe,
Thank you for the quick response. I was wondering if it is possible to buy the medication over the counter from any local homeopathic pharmacy. I live in bangalore, India.
Thank you for the quick response. I was wondering if it is possible to buy the medication over the counter from any local homeopathic pharmacy. I live in bangalore, India.
Ritasri last decade
I prefer NOT to be addressed by my given name 'Joe' as I have never met you and you are only another patient to me whom I am trying to help with my therapy aka 'Joepathy'.
I live in Sri Lanka where there is some respect for age and I am 85 years old.
I live in Sri Lanka where there is some respect for age and I am 85 years old.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Mr. Joe,
There is no need for such rudeness. For all you know, I might be 105 years old.
And as for your given name, it is the name that YOU have submitted in the forum and that is how I addressed you. I did not dream it up. Anyway, it is clearly advised(in 'join the forum' page) not to use your real name, so how is one supposed to know. In fact, if you are familiar with french, your name translates to 'Joe of Livera'. So, to me, you are one of the many Joes of Livera.
P.s: please prefix a title to your name (by which you would like to be addressed) so that you need not show your bitter side again.
There is no need for such rudeness. For all you know, I might be 105 years old.
And as for your given name, it is the name that YOU have submitted in the forum and that is how I addressed you. I did not dream it up. Anyway, it is clearly advised(in 'join the forum' page) not to use your real name, so how is one supposed to know. In fact, if you are familiar with french, your name translates to 'Joe of Livera'. So, to me, you are one of the many Joes of Livera.
P.s: please prefix a title to your name (by which you would like to be addressed) so that you need not show your bitter side again.
Ritasri last decade
You do NOT have to address me by name at all as this is not customary on the ABC and on my own website:
www.joedelivera.com.
You will observe that I did NOT address you by your name which I presume is a Synonym in my last post to you.
I was only trying to help someone whom I felt was in distress and whom I could help in the manner that I have been doing for the last 10 years on this ABC of which I was one of the first members and certainly the oldest surviving member at age 85, perhaps old enough to be your Grandfather.
There was absolutely NO element of rudeness on my part in addressing my last post to you and I must admit that I am indeed very shocked at your own outburst which I consider totally unnecessary and absolutely RUDE as all I had done was to remind you of the tenets of public etiquette where one does NOT address anyone by their first name (Hi Joe) merely because my full name and surname are indicated on the reply bar in green above my response to you where I prescribed my therapy to hopefully help CURE your patient's problem which I presumed was the aftermath of CKG.
All it expected was a response from you with perhaps an apology, instead of the RUDENESS you have displayed in your outburst which has frankly taken me by surprise.
I consider that I have done my part in trying to help your patient whom I will not consider in future as one, thanks to your RUDENESS.
You further stated:
'P.s: please prefix a title to your name (by which you would like to be addressed) so that you need not show your bitter side again.'
I would like you to clearly understand that there is absolutely no 'BITTERNESS' on my part in addressing my last post to you as per my statement above.
www.joedelivera.com.
You will observe that I did NOT address you by your name which I presume is a Synonym in my last post to you.
I was only trying to help someone whom I felt was in distress and whom I could help in the manner that I have been doing for the last 10 years on this ABC of which I was one of the first members and certainly the oldest surviving member at age 85, perhaps old enough to be your Grandfather.
There was absolutely NO element of rudeness on my part in addressing my last post to you and I must admit that I am indeed very shocked at your own outburst which I consider totally unnecessary and absolutely RUDE as all I had done was to remind you of the tenets of public etiquette where one does NOT address anyone by their first name (Hi Joe) merely because my full name and surname are indicated on the reply bar in green above my response to you where I prescribed my therapy to hopefully help CURE your patient's problem which I presumed was the aftermath of CKG.
All it expected was a response from you with perhaps an apology, instead of the RUDENESS you have displayed in your outburst which has frankly taken me by surprise.
I consider that I have done my part in trying to help your patient whom I will not consider in future as one, thanks to your RUDENESS.
You further stated:
'P.s: please prefix a title to your name (by which you would like to be addressed) so that you need not show your bitter side again.'
I would like you to clearly understand that there is absolutely no 'BITTERNESS' on my part in addressing my last post to you as per my statement above.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
I have just re-read your post where you indicated that you live in Bangalore.
I have visited Bangalore many time in the past and am personally aware that in your country it is NOT customary to address anyone by their FIRST NAME on a first encounter.
If you were living in the US or Australia this is considered as acceptable although I have vehemently objected to this mode of address which to me is unacceptable.
I have visited Bangalore many time in the past and am personally aware that in your country it is NOT customary to address anyone by their FIRST NAME on a first encounter.
If you were living in the US or Australia this is considered as acceptable although I have vehemently objected to this mode of address which to me is unacceptable.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe De Livera,
If you like, I can change your forum name to 'Mr De Livera?
If you'd prefer to keep it as it is, please do not be offended if people call you Joe - your English is so good that one could be forgiven for thinking you are based in the UK, or USA, where first name usage is more acceptable.
All the best,
Simon
If you like, I can change your forum name to 'Mr De Livera?
If you'd prefer to keep it as it is, please do not be offended if people call you Joe - your English is so good that one could be forgiven for thinking you are based in the UK, or USA, where first name usage is more acceptable.
All the best,
Simon
♡ moderator last decade
Dear Simon.
I do not see any need to change my name on your ABC which I have maintained since 2003 when I first joined it.
You will note that many members choose to hide behind a synonym but I have always been very forthright in my attitude, never to do any harm or hurt anyone's feelings but if anyone does annoy me, I do tend to blow them up but in a very polite manner that is all the more poignant because it conveys my thoughts very succinctly.
I am not usually offended by members addressing me as Joe but I do inform them that I prefer NOT to be addressed by my given name as there is some modicum of respect for age shown in our culture and as you are no doubt aware, I am all of 85 years of age and am in good health thanks be to God and to Arnica 30c which I have taken daily since 1996.
In this case, I was very shocked by the member who is an Indian herself when she addressed me as Joe and I informed her gently that:
'I prefer NOT to be addressed by my given name 'Joe' as I have never met you and you are only another patient to me whom I am trying to help with my therapy aka 'Joepathy'.
I live in Sri Lanka where there is some respect for age and I am 85 years old.'
It was her response that really got me angry but I did manage to control it and sent her a suitable rejoinder which I hope she will read and use in the future, not to address people who only try to help her by their first names, when in my case my whole name is very visible. Many posts are just answered without any address and I fail to see the reason why an Indian addresses me by my given name which is not normal in India where I have spent many months with close friends and know that their culture is very similar to our own in Sri Lanka.
I believe that it is just this 'new' culture that pervades in India today that is the bane of society there, which gives rise to this haughty attitude which they copy from the West.
Thank you for your remarks on my use of English which is my home language although I am a Sinhala by birth and Sinhalese is our mother tongue.
Kind Regards
Joe
I do not see any need to change my name on your ABC which I have maintained since 2003 when I first joined it.
You will note that many members choose to hide behind a synonym but I have always been very forthright in my attitude, never to do any harm or hurt anyone's feelings but if anyone does annoy me, I do tend to blow them up but in a very polite manner that is all the more poignant because it conveys my thoughts very succinctly.
I am not usually offended by members addressing me as Joe but I do inform them that I prefer NOT to be addressed by my given name as there is some modicum of respect for age shown in our culture and as you are no doubt aware, I am all of 85 years of age and am in good health thanks be to God and to Arnica 30c which I have taken daily since 1996.
In this case, I was very shocked by the member who is an Indian herself when she addressed me as Joe and I informed her gently that:
'I prefer NOT to be addressed by my given name 'Joe' as I have never met you and you are only another patient to me whom I am trying to help with my therapy aka 'Joepathy'.
I live in Sri Lanka where there is some respect for age and I am 85 years old.'
It was her response that really got me angry but I did manage to control it and sent her a suitable rejoinder which I hope she will read and use in the future, not to address people who only try to help her by their first names, when in my case my whole name is very visible. Many posts are just answered without any address and I fail to see the reason why an Indian addresses me by my given name which is not normal in India where I have spent many months with close friends and know that their culture is very similar to our own in Sri Lanka.
I believe that it is just this 'new' culture that pervades in India today that is the bane of society there, which gives rise to this haughty attitude which they copy from the West.
Thank you for your remarks on my use of English which is my home language although I am a Sinhala by birth and Sinhalese is our mother tongue.
Kind Regards
Joe
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe De Livera
Nobody means to offend you; everybody is grateful for your help, and those who know have a lot of respect for your age.
However, if you have signed your name Joe, and accept the term 'Joepathy', then some may be surprised if you take offense at being called Joe.
All the Best,
Simon
Nobody means to offend you; everybody is grateful for your help, and those who know have a lot of respect for your age.
However, if you have signed your name Joe, and accept the term 'Joepathy', then some may be surprised if you take offense at being called Joe.
All the Best,
Simon
♡ moderator last decade
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