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This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
haha, you might be right about the future :)

Yes, that is my concern with the Banerje protocols, c200 twice every day in dry doses seems too much for sensitive people.
I would not dare to try that. But maybe that's because I was taught that you should not repeat one dose of c200 in 4 weeks (although since then I have realized that lot of homeopaths prescribe remedies in c200 more frequently).
Their claimed success rate (80%) seems impressive.

So, actually you did kind of a "modified" Banerji protocol on the patient? Did it work?

This homeopath has an interesting post about the protocols:
https://www.villacortahomeopath.com/blog/the-banerji-protoco.... is strange for me, that there is a comment, saying the the person one experienced aggravation using Banerji protocol.

I thought in France they have at least 1M-s. A few years ago I heard that in France nosodes are prohibited - I still don't know if that's true.
In my country the most available homeopathic brand is Boir*n, here their highest potency is c200, and no nosodes.
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lajhar 3 years ago
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lajhar 3 years ago
The link is broken. So wasn't able to read that comment.

France as far as I know the potencies are limited to 30c. Getting higher potencies won't be easy. Yes nosodes are hard as well. Since french homeopaths had such limitation they came up with drainage/detoxification concept :)

Yes there is a divide in posology used by European/american homeopaths and sub-continental homeopaths[Kentian usage of potencies is common in these parts]. In tropical warm countries such frequent repetition is tolerable but in cold countries patients do not tolerate this frequency that well. Earlier I used to suggest 200c twice daily but these days only in acutes I suggest that dosage in chronic states I have started to increase the gap.

B protocols are good for cncer and allergies. I also use modified AUR protocols. These methods have existed in one form or another for a long time now esp. in pathological prescribing. Yes the protocol did work. If something did not work I'd have come up with another protocol :) I try to make sure that those who come to me don't return empty handed in terms of relief as long as they co-operate.
 
maheeru 3 years ago
here is the link again (hope it isn't broken again):

https://www.villacortahomeopath.com/blog/the-banerji-protoco...


Regarding France: that1s strange. I have read that Dr. Leon Vannier in France, in the beginning of last centruy practiced using drainage. This article says that he used also higher potencies, c200 or 1M:

https://drcherylkasdorf.com/2014/02/10/power-vs-force-detoxi...



France had some kind of ban on the higher potencies?

Wow, I never heard that the climate might impact the ideal posology for the patient. That sounds very interesting.

What do you think about using low potencies, like c6 in chronic cases?
When I was on a course held by Farokh Master years ago, he presented chronic cases, where he used remedies in c6 potency, with 5 cup method. Most of us (Central-Europeans) were shocked :)
Some participants theorized that somehow Indian people might be on a different "energetic frequency" than Europeans, and that is why a lower potency can be so effective for Indian people. They supposed that Europeans might need stronger push (higher potency).
Off course I have no idea if that's true or not, especially since I have read about North-American homeopaths who use c6 for chronic cases.

Sorry, what are AUR protocols?
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lajhar 3 years ago
Oh I was referring to A.U. Ramakrishnan way of doing things in cncer. AUR protocol uses doses in water and this takes the intensity of dry doses as found in B protocols. Another interesting method I find helpful is Grimmer's cncer approach operating within classical homeopathy.

Farokh is an Indian homeopathic physician who has gone much further academically including research than any one else in these parts. He also deals with cncer patients for most part. So I'm not surprised with his use of 6c but I'm not sure about 5th cup. I have never used dilution cups for 6c but have used dilution cups upto five for 30c and 200c in very very sensitive patients(however I generally use larger dilutions in preparation of wet dose and cup sizes may be that's why I never had to use more dilution cups:) ). In the subcontinent including India, Pakistan, Bangladesh dry dosing, 4th organon, kent's potencies are popular so it'd be rare to find someone using 6c in water doses.

In france, I'm sure there would be ways for homeopaths to collect potencies higher than 30c but legally potencies are restricted or atleast locally restricted but since Europe is somewhat an unified simplified market, one could easily source higher potencies from other places.

The link worked :) but alas I could not find the comment you were referring to about aggravation with Banerjee protocols. In comments section there was only one comment that was dealing with death in relation to lung fibrosis despite using B protocols. If you were referring to a comment on the passage, the author was more like B protocols were helping her lessen aggravation by addressing lesional as well as constitutional layers and I didn't find anything that she talked about B protocol causing aggravation or I must have missed something.
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maheeru 3 years ago
I have heard about Ramakrishnan method, but not about Grimmer, thanks for mentioning him!


Yes, within EU with online orders you can easily get higher potencies a well (eventhough they might not be registered in the given country).
In my country last year the pharmacist was obliged to give you a note that homeopathy is not evidence based, in case you dared to buy homeopathic remedy or cell salts:)

Here also a lot of homeopaths only use dry dosing, especially the ones educated on courses sponsored by B*iron (clinical homeopathy).

Regarding the link: sorry, my mistake.
The comment about the aggravation is at her other post about the Banerji protocols:

https://www.villacortahomeopath.com/blog/the-banerji-protoco...

It's the third commenter, who experienced aggravation.
 
lajhar 3 years ago
Ok I was able to read that comment. I welcome that comment. A lot of homeopaths and enthusiasts tend to overlook side effects or aggravation. They are taught and mentored that way. But practically things could be different. I have also heard feedback from patients who have used B protocols talking about aggravation or proving symptoms. But in some sensitive cases, their systems get acclimatised to such frequent dosing so much that they no longer get proving or aggravation but this won't happen with every one. So one needs to be on watch to manage.

As long as homeopathy medicines are available over the counter, people would have access to homeopathy easily. People who believe and have seen results with homeopathy are not going to be bothered by that tag--'not based on evidence'.
 
maheeru 3 years ago

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