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How much dose of Lycopodium Clavatum for child with ADHD

After completing the Remedy Finder here on ABC Homeopathy, the remedy listed was Lycopodium Clavatum. I ordered a 4 oz. bottle of LM1 potency. My son is 9 1/2 years old and weighs about 78 pounds. I have no idea what dose I should give him, what time of day, and when to follow up with another dose. Can anyone help with knowledge of this remedy? Thank you
  osufan on 2012-07-09
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.

send an email to revav6At gmail dot com-
She is a homeopath from India here in
USA. She has done a lot of ADHD cases.

Remedy finder is not very good except
for acute things. ADHD is complex.

Let Reva know you are on here give her
your browser link and let her guide you.

Best regards,
simone717 last decade
Thank you! I have sent her an email and hope to hear from her. Thank you for your suggestion.
osufan last decade
Hi, good!
She is not on everyday, so please wait
for her, she will respond.

The LM's are usually given when a person
is aggravating too much on the regular
remedies. No one usually starts off on
an LM until they have been found to be
extra sensitive. So you need someone
to supervise all of this for you.
simone717 last decade

Lycopodium may be his constitutional remedy (which can be re-assesed later), but we need to clear some layers before we treat the constitution.

Please give your son, Apis Mel 30c, 4 tablets, twice a day (one dose in the morning and another one in the evening) for one week and write back with what change you found during this week. I also suggest you to take one of the standard questioner (look in Nawaz's post) and fill in when you reply after a week. If you find any changes, please stop the medicine and write back.

The medicine should be take preferably on emptly stomach, with no food or drink for 30 minutes, both before and after the medicine. No water should be taken during the medicine.

If you are not familiar with Homeopathy, please read my Profile.

With Prayers,
Reva V
Reva V last decade
Thank you Reva. I picked up a 30C bottle of Apis Mel at Whole Foods last night and will start him on it tomorrow morning. Is there anything he should avoid eating/drinking while taking this?
osufan last decade
to avoid milk and wheat is very helpful. Please read about GAPS diet when you get a chance.

Reva V
Reva V last decade
Hi Reva, My son has been taking Apis Mel 30c 4 tables twice daily for seven days. I have not noticed very little improvement, if any. I have answered the questions from Nawaz.

1. ID: Garrett
2. Age : 9 ¾ years
3. Sex : Male
4. Marital Status: Single
5. weight: 87 lbs.
6. Height: 5 feet
7. country: USA
8. climate: Mostly hot(now in winter it is cold)
9. List of your complaints:
ADHD, trouble sleeping, gets hot easy, doesn’t like loud noises, sometimes has fear of dark, restless, argumentative, has trouble concentrating, can’t sit still for long periods, writing is illegible (not easy to read), has trouble reading, very impatient, doesn’t listen to authority, doesn’t follow directions. He has a very difficult time making friends. Argues with friends so much they don’t want to be his friend. He reacts very opposite - if you tell him not to go to his room, he will go to his room. If you tell him to sit, he will stand.
10. Since how long are you suffering from each complaint?
Since birth.
11. Diabetic or non-Diabetic: non diabetic
12. Desire sweets/sour/salt: sour
13. Thirst: normal
14. Tongue and Taste: slight sweet taste
15. Current BP (without medicine and with medicine): normal 120 by 80

16. What exactly is happening?

17. How do you feel? He feels like he can’t do anything right.

18. How does this affect you? It makes him sad.

19. How does it feel like?
20. What comes to your mind?
21. One situation that had a big effect on you?
22. How did that feel like?
23. What sensation do you experience in that situation?
24. What are you showing by that gesture of your hand (Habits or Actions)?
25. Current medicines you are taking?
Apis Mel 30c 4 tablets 2 times a day (for the past seven days)
26. Family Background – Mother has ADD tendencies.
27. Educational Qualifications of the patient: He is in grade school.

28. Nature of work, what do you do for living?
29. Desires, likes and dislikes for food:
Likes bread, meat, potatoes, cheese, some vegetables, sweets.
30. Name of foods which increase your problem
none as such
31. Mind-behavior, anger, irritability, hurry, impatient…and so on.. How are you different from other persons, public speaking or not , you can describe all of the details about your behavior, love and affections.
He is impatient, irritable, he is very loving towards his parents when he is not arguing with them. He is very persistent. He is shy, but also can be the class clown.
32. Aggravation (increases-time, season,)& Amelioration (Decreases)
Generally in heat. More at night.
33. Attached here your photographs of the affected area. (if required/optional)

34. Location of the disease
35. Side of the problem (Right or Left), (Upper or Lower part of body) Upper part.
36. Color of the secretions/discharges e.g urine, stool, sputum, Saliva etc. All are normal.

What is the next direction you advise? He used to take Concerta 27 mg (ADHD medication) which we took him off the beginning of June. He starts school in one month and we would like to get him better by then, if possible. Thank you for all your help!
osufan last decade
Hi - just want you to know that Reva is traveling for
3 weeks and is going to be taking a bit more time
to respond to people, but she will be responding.

simone717 last decade
Hi Simone & Reva,

Do you know when Reva will be able to respond? I am desperate to get my son on the next round of medicine since the Apis didn't work. Please advise!!
osufan last decade
Hi-Reva has been responding within 2 to 3 days. BUT sometimes the email
alert on this forum does not work properly. So Please send her an email
to tell her you are on-put your browser link in with it. She will respond.
simone717 last decade
Please give Five Phos 3x or 6x (available from your local health food stores, like Whole foods), 4 tablets, once in 2 to 3 hours for the next 1 week and write back. This is a supplement for the mind and will be essential for the indicated medicines to work effectively.

In addition, you can order Phosphorus 200c and CYPRIPEDIUM PUBESCENS 30c as a follow up medicine. When you write back after Five Phos, I will give instructions for taking CYPRIPEDIUM and Phos

I appologize for the delay in my response due to my travel.

With Prayers,
Reva V
Reva V last decade
Hi Reva,

I cannot find anything at Whole Foods labeled 'Five Phos'. Are there five separate Phos (Calc Phos, Ferr Phos, Kali Phos, Mag Phos, Nat Phos). I'm not sure if I am to purchase each of these five or if they are sold in a one tablet form. I have had a lot of trouble finding it combined into one tablet and sold in US. Most of the combinations are sold in India. Please advise.
osufan last decade
Hi- i saw 5 phos being offered by something called
Bestmade.us $28 and probably shipping.

I did not see 5 phos at my whole foods either - just all
cell salts in one bottle and individual- which are $9 each-
where I am.

You might want to order them from bestmade- cheaper.
you have the Phos's correct.Another thought- if Reva sees
the 5 phos where she is- you might ask Whole Foods to get it
for you from another store-Then it is probably $9 for the one
bottle- cheapest way to go.
[message edited by simone717 on Sun, 12 Aug 2012 00:22:17 BST]
simone717 last decade
Hi Reva & Simone717,
my son has been on the 5 phos (we actually bought Hyland's Biochemic Phosphates which had the 5 phos's in 3x potency) and have noticed very little change. It seems that this medicine makes him more hyper, less likely to listen than before, although he sleeps well. It seems to make his ADHD symptoms worse - the listening & hyper symptoms. He has started school last week and his teacher is very worried that he won't keep up - he is having huge trouble completing his assignments. Please help! I am desperate!

Thank you for your response.
osufan last decade
I know homeopathic takes a while to correct, but if I can't get the right remedy to help the inattentiveness and hyperactivity then I'll have to put him back on Concerta. I really hate to go back to pharmaceutical drugs.
osufan last decade
Did you order the Phos 200 and the Cyprapedium30c?

this is a process and Reva will guide you- If he has to be on the concerta
while these things are working to cure basic problems Reva knows that.
[message edited by simone717 on Tue, 21 Aug 2012 22:09:22 BST]
simone717 last decade
Yes I have both of them. I ordered both from ABC Homeopathy website. So if I understand you, he can be on his Concerta (ADHD medication) while we are giving him homeopathic medicine as well? That would help. I'm afraid he is already behind in all his subjects at school at they haven't been in session a week. That is how bad his inattention is. He is so distracted that if someone sitting across from him is biting their fingernails - he can't concentrate. It's terrible.
osufan last decade
Hi- yes, that is what I understand from Reva's other cases. if you
click her name and read last page of Re: ADHD 7yr old , you might
get better overview on the entire process.

You are just at the start on this. :-)
simone717 last decade
Hi Osufan,

I am sorry to know that he gets worse with 5 Phos. I request you to start giving Cyprapedium 30c, once in the morning and once in the evening (2 pellets as one dose). Please stop 5 phos.

In my practice, I continue to see excellent result with Apis Mel 30 and patients typically have to continue for 2 months, every day, before they stop it and declared cured. I have no exception to this. We will get back to Apis 30 after Cyprapedium, if needed.

As a supplement, I request you to get Cod Liver Oil tablets made by Carlson and give one tablet, once a day, in the morning.

I understand the frustation and I see parents who had this turn for good. Please be patient and continue. I understand about the side effects of Concerta, but please use it as needed, till Homeopathy starts taking over.

In future, if things dont go right, please stop the medicine and write back in the same day. This will help to put to coarse it right.

With Prayers,
Reva V
Reva V last decade

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