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Help for 8yr old son with ADHD/SPD

Hi There,

I am hoping someone may be able to help with homeopathic treatment for our 8-year-old son who has been diagnosed with ADHD and Sensory Processing Disorder. We live in the south east of the UK.

We do not know where to turn, as we do not wish to medicate with stimulant medication such as Ritalin, which is the only treatment path we have been offered.

My son is 8 years old. He was diagnosed at age 7 with combined type ADHD and Sensory Processing Disorder. We sought assessment for him ourselves after his school kept raising issues with his inability to focus and concentrate. Issues also with leaving his seat often, even in assembly, chatting & talking excessively. This is to the point it is having an effect on his learning. They say he is very bright but cannot concentrate enough to focus on any task, so his progress is suffering. He also hates writing and will do anything to avoid it.

He was born by caesarean section and weighed 8lbs 5oz at birth. He had colic quite badly as a baby so we took him to a cranial osteopath, which seemed to work! He is of average height and build with a slightly protruding tummy and lax muscle tone. He has blonde hair and blue eyes and often has dark circles under his eyes and looks pale. He rarely feels the cold and cannot bear tight or restrictive clothing. He becomes hot very quickly and sleeps in pyjama bottoms only with no covers. He sweats from his head at night and can often feel like a mini furnace. He dislikes the dark and is often afraid of things especially at night. He takes a long time to fall asleep and quite often wakes in the night, although can self settle and return to sleep. He says he hates sleeping alone and often when he wakes he will come into our room. He is a kind and charming boy, very loving and very protective of his family and friends. He loves hugs, but also finds it too restrictive to hug for long and will then start to wriggle or move away. He will often do things that he thinks will please you and likes to help around the house. He has done the washing completely independently before now and tidies his room independently too. He is also obsessed with lawnmowers and vacuum cleaners and will spend hours testing different models (he has a collection of 20+ vacuum cleaners and 6 lawnmowers), taking them apart and putting them back together. He also likes to watch videos of them being tested or used or watch them being fixed, stripped down and reassembled. At home he is generally well behaved (normal behaviour for an 8 year old) and gets on well with his brother, although they do fight like most siblings, but it is not excessive and in fact he is more accommodating and gives into his younger brother more often than the other way around. He has never been an aggressive child and does not like rough play. He does not climb or do dangerous things excessively and is in fact more cautious over trying new things. When younger he would start to climb a climbing frame and then get scared and would not go up or down. It used to take ages for us to either lift him down or persuade him to come down. He was also afraid of rope or swing bridges and rope ladders. He does however love bouncing and swinging and plays on his trampolines and swings in the garden a lot. He also has very very sensitive hearing and will generally hear things the rest of us cannot hear. This also means that sounds that are at normal volume for us are very loud to him and sometimes painful (e.g fire alarms). He is very stubborn and will hardly ever be persuaded to do anything until he decides or does it on his own. For example, a few years ago he asked for the stabilisers to be taken off his bike. He then would not get on it, even if we held onto it (especially if we held onto it). Then he had a friend round who got on his bike and rode it round the garden. The next day my son got on his bike and rode it round the garden himself! He does have trouble listening to and following directions (or remembering them) and if he has something fixed in his mind he will do it, even when you’ve told him not to face to face! It appears as if he blanks out anything and everything else so does not hear or take in what was said to him. He struggles to wait his turn in conversation so will interrupt others to say what he wants to say. He also struggles with queuing. He loves animals especially dogs and will go up to any dog often forgetting to ask the owner if its ok to do so! He is personable and charming and almost acts like a little grown-up at times. He is very sociable and confident and will talk to anyone; as a result most adults outside school seem to like him. At school the teachers seem to either love him or hate him, there is no middle ground! He makes friends easily and has lots of friends outside school. Inside he seems popular but often says he plays alone or that no one will play with him. The teacher reports him as not having many close friends in school and few supporters in class! His classmates quite often like to get him into trouble because it is easy to do. He will basically do things they tell him to, even if he knows they are wrong because he thinks it will make them laugh or make them like him. He is impulsive and quite often acts the class clown and will act in a silly manner when he is with friends. This is more noticeable when in a group of friends or when out with friends or family that are similar to him – they seem to wind each other up to fever pitch and his voice will get louder and louder and he often shouts, become a little rude and stop listening completely and act up! He also has a very loud speaking voice (no volume control), so you can always hear him above everyone else! He is very sensitive and empathic and hates to upset people. He is very aware of hurting other’s feelings and hates to think he has done so, although sometimes he will do this unthinkingly because of acting silly or due to lack of impulse control! His self-esteem and self-confidence are very easily knocked and he will think he is stupid and bad and not good at anything. He has even told us in the past that we need to change him for a better boy, which breaks our hearts! He has started to take things personally at school when a teacher corrects his behaviour and then his tone becomes inappropriate or he will challenge with ‘what me?’ or ‘it wasn’t me/I didn’t do anything’! He sometimes seems absent when looking at you as well, as if he is not really present and will then physically shake himself to bring himself back into focus!
He loves music and dancing and learns the words to lots of songs and moves to dances but cannot hold a tune himself and is not very co-ordinated (no natural rhythm). He uses music to calm himself for sleep at night and likes to listen to music when doing homework. He is basically a mass of contradictions but is such a lovely, loving and charming boy that its heartbreaking to see him struggle at school and with his classmates.

I am hoping you may be able to suggest some homeopathic treatments that may help calm and quieten him and enable him to focus and control his impulsiveness, lower his hyperactivity and reduce the sillyness with others or when out!

I do apologise for the length of this post but was trying to think of everything that may help with understanding his issues.
 
  adhdspdmum on 2013-01-18
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What medications have you tried so far .
 
vikas_grower last decade
1)What are his diet preferences .

2) How is his appetite

3)How is his thirst , does he perfers his drinks hot or cold

4) Does he allow touching on his throat

5) Does he sweats on his feet

6)Can you put more light on his silly behaviour

7)Any chronic colds or coughs or other ailments


8) Whats makes him happy

9)Can you put more light on that he is aware when he has hurt feelings of other people

10) Can he wear turtle neck sweaters

11) What makes you say he dislikes cold

12) Is his sweat offensive

13) Does he sweats only during sleep .
 
vikas_grower last decade
Hi Vikas-grower, thank you for replying. I really appreciate it.

The only medications we have tried so far are natural supplements, omega 3 & 6 fish oils, zinc and magensium.

The answers to the other questions are as follows:0

1) He likes main meals (roast meats, potatoes, pasta). He is a bit restricted in the vegetables he likes, so will eat carrots and odd broccoli florette, french beans. He likes raspberries, strawberries, pears, grapefruit, peaches and oranges. He likes all cereals and also has a sweet tooth and likes puddings - most kinds and chocolate. He doesn't like sweets/candy or nuts.

2) He has a good appetite but will sometimes eat to excess. For example when coming in from school he will ask for a bowl of cereal after dinner, then ask for 3 or 4 more!

3) He likes both hot and cold drinks but will ask for iced water at night. He loves juices, milk drinks, hot chocolate, milk shakes and squash.

4) I haven't noticed whether he allows touching on his throat but he doesn't like the back of his neck touched as he says it tickles

5) I do not know whether he sweats from his feet either, but he gets very hot very quickly and probably sweats over most of his body,

6) His silly behaviour will usually take the form of shouting and running about and banging things and not listening to anyone and basically acting like a very badly behaved child, which he usually isn't! He will act like a crazy person.

7) He is rarely ill, but does suffer from the odd cold and cough. He has eczema and dry skin in general. He sometimes suffers from headaches and tummy sickness.

8) Being outside, playing with mowers and vacuum cleaners, being with people, family and friends, his pets (gerbils), being praised, having time spent with him. Conquering a new skill. He is generally disposed towards being happy :)

9) He is very empathic and will notice if others are sad and feeling scared or nervous and will go to them specifically and lead them into the group. He is gentle with them without making them feel ill at ease. If he thinks he's upset you or hurt your feelings he will try many things to make you happy, from cuddling and saying sorry to writing notes to you or doing things for you and will ask for reassurance that you've forgiven him and that he didn't mean to hurt your feelings. He can also get very sad and dejected and will retreat into himself and want to be alone if he thinks he has done something to upset you.

10) No he hates anything tight around his neck, although will sometimes wear a scarf in the cold weather.

11) I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply he dislikes cold. I think the opposite. He gets hot very quickly and is always stripping off or looking for cold places. He loves ice in his cold drinks and ice lollies or ice cream. He will often go outside in the coldest weather in only short sleeves and hats, coats and gloves never stay on for long!

12) No his sweat doesn't smell and he has very little body odour or breath odour.

13) He sweats a lot at night, but if wearing lots of clothing in the day (e.g. winter school uniform) he will sweat in that and then the clothing comes off. He warms up very quickly and sweats as soon as he does.

Hope this helps, many thanks for reading my post and replying:)
 
adhdspdmum last decade
1)Anything you want to comment on his eyelashes

2) can he sleep on his left side
 
vikas_grower last decade
Thanks again for replying Vikas_grower :-)

1) He has very long eyelashes, lighter near the eye and darkening to brown as they grow outwards

2) yes I believe he can sleep on his left side, he travels a lot in his sleep so sleeps back, front and both sides.

Hope this helps
Many thanks
 
adhdspdmum last decade
Ok Please buy Phosphorus in 30c potency and a bottle of 250 ml spring water and inform so that we can discuss the dosing procedure.
 
vikas_grower last decade
ok, thanks very much Vikas_grower, I will order the Phosphorus in 30c and get the spring water and let you know when I have them all.

Would you be able to advise me what the phosphorus addresses/treats?

Many thanks
 
adhdspdmum last decade
Phosphorus helps children who have issues in concentration and are spacey and is particularly suited to children who have a sweet disposition .
 
vikas_grower last decade
Thats great, thanks vikas_grower. Will let you know when I have the phosphorus.

Many thanks for your help
 
adhdspdmum last decade
Hi there vikas_grower,

Just to let you know that I now have the phosphorus 30c and the spring water.

If you could advise what I need to do now with regards dosing it would be greatly appreciated?

Many thanks
 
adhdspdmum last decade
Is it in liquid or pills form.
 
vikas_grower last decade
Hi There,

Apologies, it is in pill form.

Many thanks
 
adhdspdmum last decade
1) Please note that from the spring water bottle take out 50 ml of water

2) Make sure he has not eaten anything for about a hour before he takes the medicine .

3) Now pour TWO PILLS of Phosphorus 30 in the the remaining water in the water bottle .

Dont touch the pills with your hands


Wait till the pills completely dissolve

4) Close the cap of the water bottle , gently turn the bottle upside down so that uniform mixing of medicine is there in the bottle .

5)No take one capful of water and pour it over his tongue ask your son to slowly take it inside .

6)Wait for 15 minutes , take another capful from the bottle and ask your son to take it

7)Wait for another 15 minutes give one more capful

Now discard the water bottle away .

No more medication keep the Phosphorus 30 in safe a dark place away from perfumes , Deos , after shaves etc


Wait for fifteen days and then report , no medicine homeopathic or allopathic is to be taken in those 15 days , dont give coffee in these 15 days .

I repeat no Phosphorus 30 is to be taken again .

In case of any confusion , please ask .
[message edited by vikas_grower on Fri, 25 Jan 2013 12:20:36 GMT]
 
vikas_grower last decade
Ok, thanks very much. I'll make sure its just the 3 capfuls you advise and then nothing for 15 days.

Should I be looking for anything in particular and if so how quickly would you expect this to be noticeable?

I will report back after 15 days.

Many thanks again
 
adhdspdmum last decade
There are three possible outcomes

1) Aggravation followed by amelioration of symptoms


2) Amelioration straightaway


3) No effect

However if remedy chosen in ok , then a very minute improvement is discernible after two or three days which sometimes holds or abates , either way it is an encouraging sign and then we can go for a higher potency .
 
vikas_grower last decade
What ever happened with your son? Did he get better?
 
lmeadows last decade
Hi There Lmeadows,

Apologies for not posting, but things became very hectic here.

Anyway, one of the things that happened is that my son changed schools. He now goes to a fabulous school and its completely suited to him and the teachers and staff are angels, treat each child as an individual and teach to their strengths and learning styles. Its a really lovely place and more like a home from home.

This meant that we haven't yet tried the treatment suggested by Vikas-grower so we had nothing to report. We are still planning on trying the phosphorus but wanted him to settle into the new school and for them to get to know him as he is first.

We'll still definitely post again once we've tried him on the phosphorous.

However, he is already much calmer and happier due to the change of school environment :-) Although he still struggles to concentrate and focus for any length of time and is still very impulsive, so we will try the phosphorus as directed to see if it helps.

Many thanks again
[message edited by adhdspdmum on Sun, 19 May 2013 10:57:29 BST]
 
adhdspdmum last decade
Hi all,

Just wanted to add, that while Phos may be a remedy
that will boost his life force and all body systems-
This remedy was for adhd's son only based on his
specific symptoms. What works for one person is
not suited to another person- they may need a different
remedy and should be evaluated as to what it is by
a good homeopath.

Second, There is a lot of info out there now about
how add, adhd, aspergers, etc can be a reaction to
allergies and a digestive system not working up to
par. Some homeopaths on these issues always address
the gut first and then go on to the other constitutional
remedies. Many times clearing the gut fixes the entire
thing.

Something to research here as far as the allergies is
Naet therapy. This is a technique using non invasive
acupressure on points in the spine that are seen
to be not running right ( electrical body system) when
one holds onto the suspected or known allergen. The points
are then cleared with acupressure and the body no longer
reacts to the substance as a threat.

The spine is our immune system and allergies are simply
the immune system out of balance. Naet therapy was
developed by a Indian MD in the usa due to her quest
for cure on her own food allergies. She trains health professionals worldwide- there is a worldwide network-
Naet worldwide, and Naet autism doctors, Google
'Nutritional therapy may be key to stopping autism'
fox news- 2012.
[message edited by simone717 on Sun, 19 May 2013 15:58:56 BST]
 
simone717 last decade

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