Prostatitis, hip pain, overmasturbation??

Prostatitis is an infection of the Prostate gland which usually occurs in males who are over 40 years of age.

I note that your condition was diagnosed as Prostatitis and I would like to know how this diagnosis was arrived at and what tests were done. Did you suffer from a low temperature and were you incontinent when you were diagnosed ?

What drugs were prescribed for your problem and what is your present status today ?

Hi Evan,I am 31 old male and I also have prostatitis for about one year.Joe de Livera,is not right about this, actually he is partialy right,..there are several types of prostatitis,..it seems that both of us have chronic NON bacterial prostatitis,..No bacterias so antibiothics don't work,besides there is acute and chronic bacterial prostatis.I have simmilra symptoms like you have,problem about this case that cureing of this is symptomatical,..as you probavbly noticed sometimes you feel better or worse without any particular raeson,..it is hard to heel it just because the raeson is yet uknown,..but ussualy is not dangerous,especially if you urine straem is regular,..mister Joe has no idea about this;first of all prostatitis strike younger males,could be caused by infections but also not neccessary,BHP strike male above 40-50 years and has no conection with infection,BHP and prostatitis are differenr types of diseases,..chronic prostatitsi could be causes by tension of body,...me on myself have tryed homeopathy for this problem for about 1,5 years,have visited 5 homeopaths,..and..nothing,..not having intention to disapointing you,..but just to not to expect to much about this,..general avoid sitting on cold,no sode drinks,lot of liquid,ejaculation is good but not too much,.and try to relax,..best regards!!!!

Dear Evan
I have some suggestions for you, try to find an experienced Urologist and Infectious Disease Specialist first, Let them ascertain what kind of prostatitis you have....if you have an infectious prostatitis, you are lucky because there are excellent antibiotics out there which can take care of your infection, with some patience on your part and hard work on your doctors. Unfortunately,if it is proved that you have non infectious prostatitis....try to find an experienced homeopath (who does believe in allopathy and Naturopathy also) and stick with him/her for a while.
Non Infectious prostatitis is difficult to cure but not impossible.....believe in yourself and change your lifestyle (stressful life can play a big role here).
The key to this healing protocol, are four persons, you, your urologist,your infectious disease specialist and finally your homeopath.

It is also very important that your homeopath is an experienced doctor and has extensive and updated knowledge about human glands, endocrinolgy and nervous systems

Please report your progress for other's benefit
Good Luck
sazim

OK boys, I stand corrected.

I was not aware that one can suffer from Prostatitis without any bacterial infection.

I am 76 years old and had a Retropubic Prostatectomy performed in 2002. I was first diagnosed with Prostatitis caused by an infection in 1996 and after a long course of Ciprofloxacine to kill the bacteria, was prescribed Hytrin to which I was allergic and I used Conium and Sabal 30c which helped to some extent. However it was only when I used Arnica for a slight wound on my shin that I discovered that the Arnica 30 was far more effective than the two other remedies that I was using and I changed over. I used Arnica 30 daily for 6 years right up to my surgery to keep the water works open.

Arnica is perfectly safe to be used on a daily basis and I have used it every night after my surgery and can confirm that the reason for my state of wellness is due to my nightly dose of Arnica.

I would suggest that you too use this same remedy Arnica 30c which you can use in what is called the Split Dose which is made up as follows:

Get a 500ml bottle of spring water
Pour out 100ml or about an inch of water to ensure some air space on top.
Put in 3 globules Arnica 30c or 1 drop if you have the liquid remedy.
Hit the bottle hard on your palm or a cushion and watch for the water to fizzle like when you open a bottls of soda.
Sip a teaspoonful twice daily with the last dose taken just before sleep. You will discover that you will sleep very deeply after the Arnica.

Report response as soon as you have some relief and your stream is stabilized which should usually occur in about 3 hours after your first dose.

Respected Joe

Were you suffering from Infectious Prostatitis or Nonifectious Prostatitis. According to your own statement you took a long course of Cipro, the question is did the antibiotic help you. Please also mention how many months/days you took the cipro and how many milligrams were you taking in a 24 hours cycle, then please ascertain, were you completely cured by an antibiotic or by a homeopathic medicine, doesnt the failure of an antibiotic medicine rules out an infectious prostatitis..

thanks & regards
sazim

Evan your doctor should be a homeopath first, naturopath second and allopath later,(must not necessarily hold an MD degree) meaning he should be well versed in all kinds of treatment, and should know of when to apply what....Please note that most of the medicine used in homeopathy is used in naturapathy or ayurvedic systems in crude form, so there are some overlapping between the two systems....however allopathic science is an excellent diagnostic tool, so an intelligent homeopathic doctor should be able to used all the systems to heal a patient...

A fully/partly inflamed/swollen prostate will show up on MRI (magnetic Resonance imaging). Other tests will show that you have a normal prostate if it is mildly inflamed....

Please report your findings, and your treatment protocols, as it can benefit patients suffering from non infectious prostatitis

regards

sazim

My husband is going thru a similar situation. He is 30. Has incontinence, some pain in lower back and finally went to our family dr. Dr gave him Bactrim to take until he saw the urologist. The initial appt with the urologist was over a month was coming up this Friday. Over the weekend he started having severe burning during urination and almost total loss of urination. We decided to goto the ER they did a bladder scan, attempted a catheder but unable to insert, more meds (Cipro and some other stuff). He got into the Urologist yesterday and it was like a building being lifted off our shoulders. He did another bladder scan and exam. He was diagnosed with chronic prostatis and was told to stop drinking sodas, stop eating acidic foods such as tomato products (spagetti, pizza, fresh tomatoes), no more hot wings, etc. AND to have more frequent ejaculation at least every other day. He explained to us that it is important for the prostate to "get rid of" the semen otherwise it will go stale and cause problems. The spicy foods and sodas just inflamed it as well. He will remain on the Bactrim for awhile and will return for a check up. Finding a good urologist and following their orders are the most important thing to do. Like he told us "Forget what you have heard over the past 10 years unless they were a urologist." Not sure if this helps any of the posters, good luck to all.

I was concerned to note that the physician you consulted has advised you to take Bactrim for your Prostatitis.

The drug of choice for your problem is Ciprofloxin and the dosage is 1 tablet taken twice daily for at least 2 weeks.

I shall copy some information on Cipro:

C I P R O Information
and Side Effects

A new research article explains how quinolone antibiotics (including "Cipro") cause joint and tendon ruptures...
See also one young man's testimony on the potential for side effects
Reprint of Dr. Shoskes newsgroup comment on antibiotics in prostatitis treatment.
by Jerry Snider R.Ph.
C I P R O Information & Side Effects -
Cipro (Ciprofloxin) is a member of the quinolone group of antibiotics. Peak blood levels are reached 1-2 hours after dosing. If you take an ANTACID containing magnesium or aluminum hydroxide (most have one or both), it will bind up to 90% of the drug, rendering it mostly ineffective. Same is true with zinc, iron, and calcium. It reaches optimum blood levels if taken 2 hours after a meal. If you take THEOPHYLLINE) for asthma, Cipro slows down the breakdown of Theophylline, and it will cause severe nervousness as you would expect with an overdose (could be fatal!). Cipro does the same with CAFFEINE, and will build up higher blood levels of caffeine, causing nervousness and CNS stimulation.
Cipro is effective against gram positive and gram negative bacteria. It works by interfering with an enzyme that bacteria need to replicate their DNA. Cipro enters tissue, including the prostate, and can be isolated from prostatic secretions.
RECOMMENDED DOSE FOR PROSTATITIS: 500mg every 12 hours for 28 days.
*EFFECTIVE AGAINST:

AEROBIC GRAM POSITIVE:
Enterococcus faecalis;
Staph Aureus;
Staph epidermis;
Staph saprophyticus;
Strep pneumoniae; and
Strep pyogenes.

AEROBIC GRAM NEGATIVE:
Campylobacter jejuni
Citrobacter diversus
Citrobacterfreundii
Enterobacter cloacae
E.Coli
Haemophilus influenzae
Haemophilus parainfluenzae
Klebsiella pneumonae
Morganella morganii
Neisseria gonorrheae
Proteum mirabilis
Proteus vulgaris
Providencia rettgeri
Providencia stuartii
Pseudomonas aeruginose
Salmonella typhi
Serratia marcescens
Shigella flexneri
Shigella sonnei.
Effective against 90% of the strains of the following
In Vitro (test-tube) - - - -
AEROBIC GRAM POS:
Staph haemolyticus;
Staph hominis
AEROBIC GRAM NEG:
Acinetobacter Iwoffi
Aeromonas caviae
Aeromonas hydrophilia
Brucella melitensis
Campylobacter coli
Edwardsiella tarda
Haemophilus ducreyi
Klebsiella oxytoca
Legionella pneumophila
Moraxella catarrhalis
Neisseria meningitidis
Pasteurella multocida
Salmonella enteritidis
Vibrio cholerae
Vibrio parahaemolyticus
Vibrio vulnificus
Yersinia enterocolitica
OTHER:
Clamydia trachomatis
Mycobacterium tuberculosis (moderate on both)
RESISTANT BACTERIA NOT HELPED BY CIPRO: Most strains of: Burkholderia cepacia, Stenotrophomonas maltophilia, Bacteroides fragilis, Clostridium difficile- Cipro is slightly less effective in an acid PH.- Resistance develops slowly to Cipro (multi-step mutations)- Synergistic (stronger) effects occur with Cipro if given with Flagyl (metronidazole), Cleocin (Clindamycin), or aminoglucocide or beta-lactam class antibiotics.
CONTRAINDICATIONS: Should not be used by persons with a history of hypersensi-tivity to Cipro, or other quinolones. Not to be used by persons under the age of 18.
WARNINGS: All quinolones cause erosion of cartilage in weight-bearing joints. They may cause convulsions, increases intracranial pressure, toxic psychosis, CNS stimulation (i.e.nervousness, lightheadedness, confusion, hallucinations).Should not be used in anyone with seizure disorders, or cerebral arteriosclerosis. There have been deaths due to anaphylactic shock, and cardiovascular collapse. Also occurring are tingling, itching, facial swelling, and difficult breathing.
DISCONTINUE at the first sign of a rash or any hypersensitivity. Pseudomembranous colitis has been reported from nearly all antibacterial agents (mild to life-threatening), and anyone taking Cipro having diarrhea should immediately check with his prescribing physician. Antibacterial drugs may kill off normal intestinal flora, resulting in an overgrowth of Clostridia. It produces a toxin that is a primary cause of "antibiotic-associated- colitis".
Achilles and other tendon ruptures requiring surgical repair, resulting in prolonged disability can occur from quinolone use. Discontinue Cipro, and consult your physician, if you experience pain, inflammation, or tendon rupture.
Crystaluria (particles out of solution in urine) may occur, particularly if the urine is alkaline. While taking Cipro, maintain hydration (8-8oz glasses of water daily min.)and drink Orange or Cranberry juice, or apple cider vinegar (2 tsp. with 1 tsp.honey in 8 oz water) to maintain acidity of the urine. Photosensitivity (sunburn) occurs easily. Stay out of the sun all you can, or wear sunscreen (spf30) if you can't. Monitor liver, kidney functions, and blood chemistry during prolonged therapy.
DRUG INTERACTIONS:
Raises blood levels of THEOPHYLLINE and decreases normal elimination resulting in overdosing, potentially fatal. Also alters DILANTIN blood levels.
Given with GLYBURIDE (DIABETA, MICRONASE, GLYNASE), it can cause hypoglycemia. It increases the effects of the blood thinner COUMADIN (WARFARIN), and a patient taking COUMADIN needs to carefully monitor his prothrombin time.
BENEMID (PROBENECID) causes decreased breakdown of Cipro requiring less Cipro, or discontinuance of Benemid.
CARAFATE (SUCRALFATE), an ulcer drug, causes extremely decreased blood levels of Cipro.
ADVERSE REACTIONS:
Nausea (5.2%),
Diarrhea (2.3%),
vomiting (2%),
abdominal pain/discomfort(1.7%),
headache(1.2%),
restlessness(1.1%), and
rash (1.1%).
The following were reported as less than one percent:
CARDIOVASCULAR: Palpatation (feeling your heart beat), heart flutter, fainting, angina, heart attack, cardiopulmonary arrest, blood clot to the brain.
CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM: Nervousness, dizziness, headache, lightheadedness, insomnia, nightmares, hallucinations, manic attack, tremors, irritability, seizures, lethargy, drowsiness, weakness, no appetite, depression, numbness, depersonalization, ataxia ( lack of muscle coordination), agitation, confusion, delirium, toxic psychosis, muscle twitching, involuntary eye movements.
GASTROINTESTINAL: painful oral mucosa, thrush(oral fungal infection),intestinal perforation, G.I. bleeding, jaundice, difficulty swallowing, constipation, intestinal gas, swelling of the pancreas.
MUSCULOSKELETAL: joint stiffness, back pain, neck or chest pain, gout flare-up.
KIDNEY/URINARY: Kidney failure, urinary retention, urethral bleeding, acidosis, nephritis (inflammation of the kidneys), increased urinary output, kidney stones.
RESPIRATORY: difficult breathing, throat or lung swelling (edema), hiccoughs, bronchial spasm, blood clot in the lung, nosebleed.
SKIN HYPERSENSITIVITY: itching, rash, sensitivity to sunlight, flushing, chills, swelling of the blood vessels or lymph system, swelling of the face, lips, neck, eyes, or hands. Cuticle candidiasis (yeast) and hyperpigmentation.
SPECIAL SENSES: Blurred or disturbed vision, sensitivity to light, seeing double, eye pain, ringing in the ears, hearing loss, bad taste in mouth.
MISCELLANEOUS: Elevation of triglycerides and cholesterol. Blood and albumin in the urine, elevated serum potassium, glucose, and albumin. Anemia and agranulo-cytosis (potentially fatal condition where the white blood cell count goes extremely low).

So Mr Sazim,

You are saying there is no remedy in homeopathy to sure the non-infectious prostatitis. Please let us know if there is?

Grehman

Dr Sajjad Please address thsi issue.

Grehman

Evan,

I don't know about the prostatitis, but I have had similar hip and back pains.

At age 35 I was incapacitated from the pain in my back. And like for you, the doctors were stumped. Through scattered bits of information, I found that zinc supplements helped a great deal. I started taking 50mg zinc supplements and I got on my feet again.

However, over the years, I have found I needed to increase the supplement. I take the supplement after an ejaculation (with food), and an increased dose (spread evenly over the day) for the following 3 days, after which I return to a normal daily dose.

You may want to have your doctor check you for zinc deficiency (though I never have done so). However, doctors are very reluctant to prescribe zinc supplements (for fear of overdose), and tend to side on under-dose rather than risk overdose.

BTW, As your experience hints, there may be a chemical exchange between men and women during sex that is not present (obviously) during masturbation, that might counteract the zinc deficiency problem. Just a thought.

1. People saying you have to be 40 and older are spewing utter nonsense. Prostatitis can effect any age. My father had his now 51 years old had his first bout of prostatitis at the age of 19. I currently suffer from chronic prostatitis at the age of 32.

2. To the man who said that the medical community has the most effective drugs for treating prostatitis.
WRONG !!!! Most antibiotics can not penetrate the prostate gland. So as far as pills go you are stuck with floxacin drugs, teteracyclines ,sulfa and 3 cephalosporins and that is it. And of the 3 cephalosporins 2 have very low concentrations into the prostatic tissue and the prostatic fluid. and the 3rd cephradine has very good concentration but most urologist will not prescribe it.

Most strains of the gram negative micro organisms ecoli and klebsiella are immune to tetracycline antibiotics such as minocycline and doxcycline. The tetracyline antibiotics are reserved for STD prostatitis such as prostatitis caused by chlamydia. Though occasionally a person lucks out and the sensitivity lab testing shows sensitivity to tetracyclines.

highly effective drugs for ecoli and klebsiella include amoxicillin ,suprax ampicillin etc yet none of these can penetrate the selective tissues of the prostate gland nor can they enter the ejaculatory ducts. which are usually blocked by a bacterium. Ampicillin in the form of IV or shot can given for prostatitis. But capsules of ampicillin can not be given because they are not readily absorbed into the prostatic tissue because of destruction by the the gut and lower intestines.
It is also common for prostatitis to be immune to entire classes. Meaning if cirpofloxacin doesn't work then quite possibly anything ending in floxacin be it norfloxacin or moxifloxacin or levofloxacin(levaquin) or ofloxacin could quite possibly fail to.

3. Non bacterial prostatitis does not mean you do not have a prostate infection. It just means that the culture did not grow a bacterium. which could be for any number of reasons. Standard culture is 2 days. It is not uncommon when dealing with an organism taken from the prostate to take a minimum of 3 days to grow in a culture.

other reasons. The culture was not sensitive enough, the bacteria could be hiding in a blocked duct for example if you are having ejaculatory problems such as stabbing ejaculatory pain then the ejaculatory ducts are blocked up and congested by a bacteria. bacteria could be hiding in or behind a chamber inside prostate. many men have calcification i.e prostate stones which can have bacteria blocked up stuck in an area of the prostate. Some organisms are hard to grow such as trichomoniasis which is very hard to culture. I recently dealt with an individual on the internet. Whose urologist told him he had non bacterial prostatitis and that he will just have to learn to live with the pain because there is nothing that can be done for him. This man was on the verge of suicide when I contacted him.

After reading his symptoms I told him to go to his GP and get a prescription of metronidazole 28 days. This man is now prostatitis free thanks to me. His urologist did nothing for him because his doctor does not have the brain cells to deal with this disease. the antibiotics he had tried were ciprofloxacin , levofloxacin (levaquin) and sulfamethoxazole/trimethoprim.
As i was telling him later its very simple why the metronidazole worked and the others failed.I suspected he had an anaerobic bacterium.
cipro, sulfa, doxy, levaquin etc work by attacking the bacterias cellular wall. anaerobic bacteria don't have a cellular wall.that is why cipro,sulfa, levaquin etc are worthless at fighting anaerobic bacterium. you follow me so far ??? metronidazole does not kill organisms like ecoli proteus etc. It only kills bacteria that can not build a cellular wall.His urologist was to stupid to even notice what was going on with his own patients body. This is a common failure in what I like to call the moronic half of the urology community


prostatitis is very curable. It's the lazy doctors and lazy urologists who don't want to treat it or give the wrong combination of drugs that makes it worse for the sufferer in the end.Or tell you individual it is all in his head or he has non bacterial.

The only true cases of non bacterial prostatitis is from individuals who injured the prostate such as over weight men trying to perform the splits and injuring the nerves in the prostatic tissues. Or me who have suffered some type of hernia
from lifting a large object.

A person does not just wake up one morning with non bacterial prostatitis. This is tom foolery

The easiest way to cure a prostatitis sufferer is to take highly affective drugs such as gentamicin and ampicllin ,ceftriaxone, cefazedon , netilmicin etc.

Instead of giving pills which are usually highly ineffective against prostatitis. Because you can not get a high enough concentration into the prostatic tissues with a pill because it will be readily absorbed by the intestines and the tissues of the stomach......

anyone that tells you all that is needed is a urinalysis is lying the urinalysis will generally be clean unless the prostatitis
moves into the bladder causing a bladder infection.
Prostate massages should be performed to check for the presences of pus cells in the prostatic fluid as well as for bacteria.But as i have so stated just because there is bacteria doesnt mean you are gonna be able to catch or even culture the organism.

These organisms have been around for billions of years using genetic transformation through the process of evolution. When you watch an individual go from an acute infection killed by an antibiotic for 10 days then the bacteria come right back and that same antibiotic no longer work. This is evolution in the making. The bacterium has evolved and transformed through its own genetic make up into a now higher class of a bacterial organism.

One more thing you can not get prostatitis from over masturbation. It's impossible any doctor can tell you this lol

For those of you recommending cipro and bactrim for prostatis, both work. However there is a difference. Cipro is good if when your sypmtoms start you see a doctor very soon and start the antibiotic. Bactrim also works in this case. However, for those who procrastinated or were misdiagnose initially and didn't receive antibiotics, you now possibly have the bacteria embedded deep in the prostate and bactrim is by far the better choice. The soluble qualities of bactrim allow it to penetrate the course prostate gland better.

could you please explain the symptoms of the guy who cured with Metronidazol?

Thanks in advance!

could you please explain the symptoms of the guy who cured with Metronidazol?

Thanks in advance!