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Hi nsdev,

1. As a specialist in allopathic medicines (Pharmacologist), I am too scared of their side effects on long term use. On the contrary, homeopathic is absolutely safe.

2. Joe has extensive experience with wet dose treatment of diabetes and many other ailments. Please follow his advice.

3. You must also take Cinnamon (Da'al chini) bark powder,1/4 teaspoon, twice daily keeping a gap between Arnica and Cinnamon of atleast one hour.

If however, taking powder is not convenient, you may add 1" stick to the tea while boiling it. Take it 3 times daily.

You must not stop allopathic medications you are presently taking. Of course when your blood sugar level start coming down, you may gradually reduce their dosage.
 
Mohan last decade
Hi Nsdev,
The Natural herbs which mentioned below certainly help keeping blood suger to normal level [100 fasting, 140-160 random]however, patient should be active [walks at least 40 minutes or swim or play for 25 mintues a day] and use the herbs mentioned below, along with controled diet [Low in fat and low in starch, High in fiber and Protin]

Aloe; Fenugreek; Gymnema, Bitter Melon, Cinnamon.

Bitter Melon: eat a few raw slices daily, or drink its juice or tea, once daily.
Cinnamon: 1/4 TS add in tea or in suop, or sprinkle in food. Twice daily
Fenugreek: 1/2 Tea spoon, make tea or add in food [fish, vegitable soup, or add in Dall (grains)]
Aloe Vira: cut half leaf of Aloe and blend it whole with little water. Add a few drops of olive oil, and drink twice, one in fasting, then in evening around 7:pm.
Gymnema: is a herbal leaf, can be chewed directly or to be used as tea.

Note: Bitter Melon has been used as vegitable, as well as Cinnamon and fenugreek are considered as herbal spices and has been used for more than thousend years.
Allopathy always doubt, even with pharmaciutical medincines which caused known and unknown side effects, but you see, such medicines still priscribed as it has no other choice.

Considerably, you may start using herbs as mentioned earlier, and moniter the patients Blood Suger Level daily. If you experience that Cinnamon, Aleo, Bitter melon, or Fenugreek help to drop blood suger level, then you may gradually redunce your pharmaciutical dose.
 
zeek2005 last decade
For nsdev

Keep your prescription simple with one or two definitely proven remedies.
Give them optimum time to show their effects.

That is the only way you can achieve your objectives. Too many ideas will only be elusive.
 
Mohan last decade
I note that many natural remedies are mentioned but Arnica has not been included. Many patients have used Arnica 30c with positive results almost immediately after the second dose and I believe that you too will be able to benefit from this remedy taken in the water dose twice daily.

Please note that your Blood Sugar level must be monitored if possible daily as it tends to drop suddenly especially if the usual dose of any drug is also taken with the Arnica. Many patients have been able to stop using the drug like Metformin after changing over to Arnica/Cinnamon combination.

Cinnamon dosage is 1/4 teaspoonful taken twice daily. This dose may not be exceeded.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
nsdev

Pls go along the advice of Joe.

Many people I know of have shown significant reduction in blood sugar levels

MOHAN
 
Mohan last decade
Hey everyone, just joined this forum in the hopes that maybe I could help out the initial poster by answering the question and by calming the Cinnamon war that seems to have begun.

I have been taking cinnamon now daily for almost two years...not for diabetes, but for the other health benefits it provides. Cinnamon does, indeed, stabalize blood sugar, and when taken in the morning, supports your blood sugar throughout the day. I was putting roughly one to two tablespoons in my shakes every morning (on top of the almost daily servings of delicious, cinnamon laced Indian food for dinner.) Why so much cinnamon, you ask? Well, as much as I would like to be healthy, when I figured out that cinnamon curbed appetite, kept energy levels up, and helped me lose weight in a more natural way, I got hooked...and started using this sumtuous spice very liberally, especially on days when I did not have time for lunch. About four months ago, though, I started to have peculiar symptoms that were not readily attributed to the cinnamon. I had severe stomach pains, like a stomach ache, but much worse...and at first, I thought I had heart burn, so I cut all spicy food out of my diet for about a week (including my morning shakes,) and I got better. But soon after starting up again, I started to have more alarming symptoms: severe, debilitating chest pain, shortness of breath, dizziness (frequently bordering on hallucinations,) cold sweats, facial flushing, pain radiating down my left arm and up my neck, and finally, nausea and vomitting. I found that doing any physical activity at all fatigued me, and that I was suffering from tachycardia almost constantly. I felt sick every time I ate (which people with heart burn usually feel better,) and every time I did Yoga (which usually makes me feel great.) I have done a lot of research, and being a thin, mostly healthy, physicially fit and active 30 year old with no history of heart condition either personally or in the family, I found that I couldn't really believe that I have CHF or angina. You know, it is like when you get food poisoning from your favorite restaurant at lunch, and even though you don't get sick until after dinner, you know that it was lunch that was the culprit. I had this feeling that the cinnamon was making me sick. So, I started reading about it and found this:

Essential Oil Poisoning
Journal Journal of Toxicology: Clinical Toxicology
Publisher Taylor & Francis
ISSN 0731-3810
Issue Volume 37, Number 6/1999
Category Original
DOI 10.1081/CLT-100102450
Pages 721-727

'Other signs of acute cinnamon toxicity include facial flushing, shortness of breath, tachycardia, dizziness, and abdominal pain, etc.'

and this:

'In their latest paper, published in the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, Anderson et al. characterize the insulin-enhancing complexes in cinnamon—a collection of catechin/epicatechin oligomers that increase the body’s insulin-dependent ability to use glucose roughly 20-fold.. Some scientists had been concerned about potentially toxic effects of regularly consuming cinnamon. This new research shows that the potentially toxic compounds in cinnamon bark are found primarily in the lipid (fat) soluble fractions and are present only at very low levels in water soluble cinnamon extracts, which are the ones with the insulin-enhancing compounds. '

Generally, we don't ingest the water soluble extracts, but the ground bark which has the Cinnamaldehyde (also called cinnamic aldehyde) and Coumarin. I have already noticed a marked improvement from withdrawing the overuse of cinnamon from my diet. I do not know how long these toxins stay in the system, or when I may start taking cinnamon again, but as I find more information, I promise I will pass it along. I did read that it is best not to have more than half a teaspoon twice a day. The truth is, it is always good to remember the old adage, 'Everything in moderation,' and that if you use your good sense and judgement, and pay attention to your body when you make dietary changes, you will end up alright in the end. I hope this helps a little! Best wishes! :)
 
phoebe9 last decade
Hi guys just sumbled across this forum when I was looking for info on cinnamon overdose. I find that my concerns have been nullified once reading the levels of daily use some people can tollerate.

Reading some scaremongering posts from Nesha-India, I kinda just laughed, he has been asked for some solid evidence numerous times or even a link to any of his sources, but all he seems to be going on is his ignorant views which he has never though maybe he has been tought by a pro-pharmaceutical university/college (assuming he has any qualification in the medical field which I doubt) which is why they made him swallow that crap lol.

Anyway back on topic I have began to take cinnamon powder since I read about it on an Islamic website as being good for health and wellbeing when mixed with honey. Just google 'benefits of honey' and you can see the proof of the pudding;

w w w DOT bees-online DOT com FORWARDSLASH HealthBenefitsOfHoney DOT htm

Mixing honey and cinnamon would combine the benefits of honey with the benefits of cinnamon, honey has been used for centurys for impotence, stomach ulcers and many other uses.
One of my favourite methods is to drink hot water which has two tablespoons of honey and one heaped teaspoon of cinnamon powder (I make my own powder in a electric grinder from bark then sieve it with a fine sieve, the remaining big chunks I just boil in water and sieve the chunks out to throw away then add honey to the water and drink it also, 'waste not want not' ^-^).
 
maoo1985 last decade
Can someone clarify what the arnica wetdose means?
 
sunshine25 last decade
hi Joe, I saw posts you mentioned for arnica and cinamon therapy just want to ask you when arnica should be taken before meals or after meals and how many minutes after or before meals

thanks
 
yourdost last decade
Cinnamon is a powerful herb for blood sugar control. Dr. Richard Anderson,
in a study with the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Beltsville Human
Nutrition Research Center, found that cinnamon can improve glucose
metabolism in fat cells by twenty-fold.

Cinnamon, is one of the oldest natural ways to treat
diabetes. It is a powerful blood-glucose regulating agent,
an excellent powerful tool for those battling with Type 2
Diabetes.

In a more recent study that appeared in
The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, in June, 2007,
probes deeper into cinnamon's effects on type 2 diabetes.

Scientists tested cinnamon on postprandial blood glucose levels, rate of
gastric emptying, and how long a person feels satisfied after a meal.

Fourteen people were tested after eating rice pudding mixed with cinnamon.
The results showed that blood glucose levels 2 hours after eating the
pudding were significantly lower. The cinnamon-laced pudding was also
slower to digest than regular pudding. Slower gastric emptying keeps
blood sugar from spiking.

Cinnamon has also come into the spotlight because of its
cholesterol lowering properties as well as it's abilities to counter
yeast infections, which baffle conventional medical treatments.

In today's times, almost every individual, whether diabetic or not,
is plagued by cholesterol problems which compromised nutrition that
then leads to a host of ailments. Although these problems might
seem overwhelming when you list them, you can effortlessly
counter them by simply making one, tiny addition to your dietary
regime... cinnamon!

Cinnamon is one of the MOST essential nutrients when it comes to
fighting diabetes.
 
Rajeshkk last decade

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