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I just took one dose (3 pellets) of Nat Mur 200 C yesterday afternoon. This was dissolved under the tongue.

No reactions so far. I do not mind if there are any negative reactions, I just wanted to try it.

Will wait for any further advice from Evocationer.
 
tonybaloni33 9 years ago
I am very sorry for being out of touch. I was visiting relatives in the bush and their internet went down just before I arrived. I had assumed I would be able to check the forum while away.

I am analysing this new set of answers now.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Absolutely. No need to apologize.

Look forward to your answer.
 
tonybaloni33 9 years ago
Thanks. The outback of Australia can be pretty remote - I am such a city-person I forget that at times.

Alright I have spent time mulling over what you have written. These are the basic themes:

Issues with eating
Loneliness
Isolation
Breaking or loss of relationships
Uncertainty
Lack of direction or purpose in life
Issues with finding of a partner or of being alone for life
Loss of confidence
Self-criticism
Lots of issues around people - bullying, domination, attachment to or detachment from
Issues with smiling/laughing

This definitely makes me consider Lac humanum as a remedy, with Natrum carbonicum as its mineral analogy.

It doesn't seem you are overreacting to the medicines, so I would actually suggest 200c Lac humanum first, with Nat-carb 200c as a potential next step.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Excellent.

Ok I will. So I will get both.

So after I take the first one then I wait a week or something and then I take nat carb or what?

Also how do I take these doses? In the wet dose?
 
tonybaloni33 9 years ago
Take them in exactly the same way as before, but one dose only to begin with. Do not take Nat-carb until we properly assess how the Lac-h has affected you.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Ok got it. Thanks.
 
tonybaloni33 9 years ago
By the way I don't know if this changes things but I was not bullyed. I didn't allow anyone to bully me and that's why I fought back.

I just wanted the stories to be clear. I'm sure the remedy still matches since the rest is accurate.
 
tonybaloni33 9 years ago
Evocationer,

I cannot find Lac Humanum.

I called two places which specialize in Homeopathic remedies and they didn't have it at all. Not in any form or potency.

I checked Amazon, searched for it online and nothing.

I also checked this site and it is not sold through here.

Please let me know where I can get this.

Thanks.
 
tonybaloni33 9 years ago
Did you try Hahnemann labs in
northern California?

They probably do not have this
on their normal list, but I
would think they would have it.

Otherwise- you need to order
from Helios Homeopathic in the
UK- they have it and it takes
2 weeks.
 
simone717 9 years ago
You mentioned one of the events in your childhood that stood out in your mind was when you were bullied and fought back, and how the rage in you was very intense and you needed your father to calm you down. Also you mentioned that you have an issue with people who are aggressive and wish to harm you in some way (bullies amongst other kinds of people).

Lac humanum is a sarcode - made from healthy human tissue, and some countries may restrict it because of supposed (and false) health reasons. I don't know what the USA has done about restricting it, but it is freely available in most countries. Lac maternum is another remedy that is basically the same.

Hahnemann Labs has it on their remedy list http://www.dataroad.net/cgi-bin/start/hahnemannlabs.com/hsto...
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Excellent,

I just ordered Lac Humanum 200 C from Hahnemann Labs.

It says that it will arrive by Thurs. but it might arrive
a day sooner since it is in California, which is where
I am as well.

I understand about your decision. I just wanted to make
sure that you understood my story and how I felt.

Thanks to both of you for all that information.
 
tonybaloni33 9 years ago
Lac humanum is an interesting remedy. It is one of the Universal remedies - affects a kind of frequently seen layer or issue many people display as a problem. It relates to the issue of love, nurturing, eating, nourishment, connection. Sometimes I use it when I can see that all the issues a patient is describing seem to be ones relating to existing as a human being - human issues. Sometimes it is hard to put exactly why you want to use it, but the case has a kind of 'human dysfunction' feel to it.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Wow interesting. I'm sure it will have a positive affect on me.

So I am supposed to make this into a liquid dose right?

Am I supposed to get a new bottle and start again? Or can I dump out what is in this bottle and start again?

Remember the bottle had the Ignatius dose from before.

Thanks
 
tonybaloni33 9 years ago
Hi

I just wanted to get the directions right. The remedy will arrive soon and I want to be ready.

Evocationer, can you please answer my previous post. I have some specific questions

Thanks
 
tonybaloni33 9 years ago
A new bottle is better, but not necessary. The old bottle must be cleaned thoroughly, using hot water. I actually boil my bottles for 30secs or so to make sure they are free from the influence of the previous remedy.

I always prescribe liquid doses except in emergencies where there is no time to prepare them.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
OK I'll just get a new bottle.

It's easier and my issue is way too serious to risk doing it incorrectly and delaying a fix.

I'm still waiting for it to arrive.
 
tonybaloni33 9 years ago
Hi,

update for you Evocationer.

So, I got the Lac Humanum last thursday (March 5th) and took the first dose that night.

I have not noticed any reactions. I used a new bottle and followed your instructions.
Today is the fifth day. I know that it might take longer. I can try another dose or a bigger dose if you think it will help.

I think that maybe we are approaching this down a different path. I have a feeling that this problem I have is related to the remedies that relate to reflux, or too much acidity in the body. Remedies like Nux vomica and related ones, that deal with heartburn or non-heartburn related reflux and acidity issues.

There were some remedies that I have looked up in the past that may help me and I saved that info. I will go over it and tell you what sounds like it resembles me. Then, I can try a strong dose of it, like Nux vomica 200C for example and see what happens.

I am going to wait until I hear your opinion, but I have been wanting to try those.

I am sorry if I seem impatient, but it's just that I cannot stand this vomiting in my mouth everyday. It really sucks and I can't take it anymore, I just want to try things and hopefully something will work.

I will also give you some more info about me that may help.


- When I am done with a meal or full, I cannot have food in front of me. Have to push it away or clean up right after

- When I am about to sing and nervous, I tend to clear my throat a lot and exhale through my nose. It's like I'm trying to push air out through my chest and nose. It also messes up my breathing and it's really weird.

- My voice definitely gets affected by all these issues. My voice will sound rough, weaker, especially in the mornings after waking up or after eating heavy meals or the wrong foods (acidic, fatty foods).

If I think of anymore, I will let you know. But I though those were important to the case.
 
tonybaloni33 9 years ago
Evocationer,

also I want to add this.

- I wake up un-refreshed. Do not get a good night's sleep. Hard to get up.

I am going to go and buy a few things that I have read could fix my issues, like Nux vomica and Nat phos in 200C. Check my previous post if you did not read that yet.

I will wait for your response, but I might try those tomorrow if you do not respond by then.

Thanks.
 
tonybaloni33 9 years ago
Be careful of just palliating or even suppressing the symptoms. Without trying to cure the core of the case (the underlying cause of your symptoms) you can end up making yourself more difficult to cure. Self-prescribing almost always makes things harder in the end unfortunately.

You can complain about lack of progress anytime. I will always take that seriously. I am not so attached to my prescriptions that I will insist you continue with a treatment that is not working :)

However, it is important not to chop and change too quickly. Remedies can be slow to work, and moving too fast past the right remedy might lose it completely from sight.

Repeat the Lac-h first. Hit the bottle 10 times instead of 5. Take two more doses, one now and one tomorrow.

In homoeopathy, it never works in any significant way to focus on the name of the complaint. All remedies can cure reflux and acidity, if they suit the whole person with that problem. Homoeopathic prescriptions only really cure when they address the peculiar parts of the case, which may be the mentals or something else, but is never just the name of the condition.

There are 549 remedies known for heartburn. There 258 remedies for regurgitation. There are 225 remedies for waterbrash. These numbers will be extremely conservative too.

I suppose the first approach I tend to take is to look at the highest level of suffering, and start there. Normally improvement there will tend to flow down to the lower levels (so spiritual-mental-emotional-general-physical-pathological) and done this way you see less relapse later on.

On the other hand, it is also important to make sure that the remedy is being aimed at wherever the most energy is being used to display/maintain symptoms.

So I don't want to dismiss your ideas. I tell you what - can you outline exactly what leads you to Nux-vomica or Nat-phos and I will see what I agree with. How does that sound?
[message edited by Evocationer on Wed, 11 Mar 2015 03:17:43 GMT]
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Thanks for your response.

Very detailed and informative.

I actually already took Nux Vomica 200C today.

How about we wait a few days and see how that
goes and if it doesn't help or no reactions, then
I can try Lac-H again?

I took a dose of 3 pellets under the tongue for
Nux vomica 200c and I didn't eat or drink for at
least 30 min before and after.

The reason I was gravitating towards nux vomica is
that it just seems like a popular remedy, and seems
to help many in general. I figured I could try it and
if it helps, maybe it is something down that line.

Also, my main problem or highest form of suffering seems
to be the physical. I haven't really gone through anything
traumatic in any way, not mentally or emotionally or any
experience that I can remember. That is why I am starting
to think that some of this doesn't apply to me.

What I mean by this is that it just seems that I have had
a poor diet through out my life. And so have my parents. And
those are the people that I learned from, but of course I have
made my own bad choices. That is probably why my dad has had
chronic heartburn since he was a young man like me in his early
20s, except my prob isn't with heartburn but it seems like it
is coming from the same thing or same kind of illness.

Thanks.
 
tonybaloni33 9 years ago
As homoeopaths, what we try to do is understand where the physical symptoms are coming from. This doesn't mean we ignore them of course, but we try our best to cure the source rather than just address the local issues (local being a problem found in one location).

When this is done, the physical problems not only become less troublesome (or even disappear) but they are less likely to return, and the patient is less likely to complain of new (possibly more serious) complaints.

The majority of patients will experience their internal disease (source of your problems) across all levels. What we are looking for is a way to clearly identify that internal disturbance, and we look at whatever parts of the person will show that in the most individual way. Mental and emotional will often do that most easily, as will the general state of the patient (those symptoms that are 'I feel' symptoms rather than 'My *insert body part' feels' ).

Even when you use specific physical locations, you are still looking for peculiar things, unusual things. You are looking for the 'personality' of the remedy in the symptoms.

We also need to look at the history of the person when we are dealing with a chronic problem. The way in which the person's life has developed alongside the physical symptoms may reflect the picture of the remedy too.

So from your answers we would consider the remedy/disease picture to be reflected in:

Suppression of emotions
Fear of losing self control
Embarrassed by tears
Eating more when depressed
Don't feel hunger as much
Negative thinking
Serious
Drawn to negative music, hard music, dark music
Frustrated by not pursuing music
Lot of anxiety, stress and depression around purpose and career
Worry about losing job
Making wrong decisions
Letting people down
Loss of friendships
Sense of betrayal
Desire for an artist's lifestyle and aversion to a 9-5 schedule

These things reflect a more unique and individual picture of your imbalance, and amongst all this are threads relating to a remedy. The real job is discovering it.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Ok understood.

Now when should I take the two doses of Lac-H? Keep in mind that I took Nux vomica 200c last night, as I said in previous post.

I have not really had any reactions to Nux, good or bad.

Also, as for the list that you have for me, there is one error. It's supposed to be "eat less when depressed" and not "eat more."

Also, a few other things - "Letting people down" and "Fear of losing self control." Curious as to where you are getting that from? The rest is pretty accurate.

Thanks as always for your help.
 
tonybaloni33 9 years ago
Sorry yes I put more when I meant less.

"Mistakes I made in the past or wrong decisions that I regret like quitting
a job. Letting people around me down like my family because of this
inconsistency in work."

"Suppression of emotions - I guess anger. A lot of times I
have to hold it in because I might get out of control "

There is actually more to your case, I was just giving examples of mental and emotional reflections of the internal imbalance, looking over the experiences in your life, rather than implying that they were the central (or only) issues.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Ok. I see now what you mean.

Those descriptions are correct about my case.

So when do I take the lac h? Remember I took nux vomica two nights ago
 
tonybaloni33 9 years ago
You will need to wait a week now, to allow for any reaction to the Nux-v to develop. Then we can assess again to see what has happened and if anything has changed.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago

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