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Oh Pat - thanks so much - I am New Age in my beliefs, and, I can almost feeel the warmth of your energy.

I came home tonight and I could not move my legs they were so heavy - and I have been eating meat a lot, (even though it disgusts) and taking prescription iron, etc. etc.

I will go to my arm chair to receive your Reiki.

Thank you so much - I feel so depleted!
 
ploutos last decade
listen-READ CAREFULLY--if vets have no real idea what is occuring with dafni and prescribe pepsid and steroid...then they are not treatiing with knowing to cure--maybe a hope--but nothing more--then they tell respitory is due to steroid weakening immunity (and yet still give steroid)..so they prescribe antibiotic--still not knowing ..... --no unnecessary meds are to be envolved---.you think they fear they do harm--when they admit it weakens--no way...



no concern with yet another type of food at this time--time to be calm..only raw meat and heavy cream for dafni--nothing else at all--no cheese--ok?
 
John Stanton last decade
John: I did not understand what you are trying to tell me. I understand, and agree with you re "conventional medicine and drugs" -

Are you telling me to take her off?

By the way, she has been begging like crazy all night long for food - she even came up and tapped my leg with her little paw, like she used to when she wabnted food - well, she still won't eat the BEEF. However, Bouboulina, the tubberooni, had no problem.......

The poor little Dafni is now laying at my feet while I am typing this message to you - she wants food - but what to do?

She did drink a little water.
 
ploutos last decade
Okey Dokey John - you are the Boss -
 
ploutos last decade
Hi John:

Just saying goodnight - she did not eat a thing all night long -

The poor thing BEGGED all night long for food but would not eat!

I am so broken hearted - it just kills me to see her in this condition.

Goodnight John from a very unhappy home.
 
ploutos last decade
Hello Ploutos,
John said not to worry about Dafni because she is not eating.

Relax and stay calm.
 
Pat2006 last decade
Good morning and I am about to shoot myself.

I woke up to a huge mess of "liquid" vomit all over the bathroom floor and the carpeted area in front of the bathroom door.

I assumed it was Dafni.

Well, imagine my shock that Bouboulina was not walking all over my face, relentlessly trying to wake me up to give her food.

There she was in her little "hooded bed" - well, she still did not get up even though I was in the kitchen preparing water, and food. I petted, I spoke to her and nothing. I presented her with food, and nothing.

Long story short, she has not eaten a thing, and has retired into the "cave-like bed" which has a cover.

OK, she ate that damned raw food yesterday and that is the only connection I have.

Now, I am so upset because I was always angry at her for constantly begging for more food, even though she needed to lose weight. I yelled at her when she approached Dafni's dish, and on and on - you cannot begin to imagine how GUILTY I feel and how broken hearted I feel - now I have two babies sick - and, Bouboulina was the little piggy of the group, always full of energy, personality plus.

Christ - what am I going to do John - I want to scream - it feels like everything is falling all around us.

Poor Dafni has been begging me for food ever since I got up - follows me around and begs but will not eat the raw or even cannned food I put out in desperation.

What is going on.
 
ploutos last decade
what was characteristics of vomit?color?...etc?please tell what observed...

boulb --did she only eat raw food?if so most like--learning lesson from getting food with the right enzymes--animals when get right food --have no need to be glutttons to point of ill...she be fine..

have you offered heavy cream to dafni?if not do so..
how often have you noticed dafi drinking today?please explain
 
John Stanton last decade
Hi John:

Just returned from the Emergency Animal Hospital - was there the entire night - Boubou was the one who had vomited liquid all over the floors - she had diarreah all day long and it was like a river - then, I saw a stream of " blood " running out from her behind like a faucet - so I ran to the emergency room - we just came back. We were there for four and a half hours.

She cannnot eat raw and quite honestly I will not introduce raw (such an extreme) to 14 year old cats. Her body could not take it.

As for poor Dafni, well John, she is slowly starving to death - she has had a little water today but no food - I just came back with some organic "baby food" chicken, which I bought for her today - I will "force feed" her through the syringe. I cannnot stand by and watch an animal starve to death - she goes back and forth to the bathroom but of course nothing comes out.

Will report back tomorrow.

Good night
 
ploutos last decade
hmmm--raw food have such an effect---nah only if over ate --adaptation is to be small amounts-when coming from processed diet--boulb vomit? and blood in stool..back to can food--.well you do what you must--you take to vets ---i cant help here...missed my opurtunity and not got right treament/remdy ...
 
John Stanton last decade
I feel sorry about your situation and the obvious trouble you and your cats are suffering, but I do feel that you should not intefere with dafni to the point of force-feeding her. Give her all the help you can, offer her every chance, but please give your animals the choice of refusal. I know its very hard and I know one wants to DO something, specially when she seems hungry but if she reacts badly you're just going to feel worse - and so will she. Please respect an animal's instincts. I hope both your cats recover.
 
homlee last decade
Well, homlee, would you just sit there day after day and watch your pet literally starve ???? She is so skinny - my god, you would not say that to a "human" I don't think - at least society would not, so why do we think we should to an animal. Of course, if she does not get any better, I will just at some point put her to sleep - she is so weak - my god, should I just let her go day after day with no food until she just DIES???
 
ploutos last decade
John, I appreciate your help so much - but believe me it was the RAW FOOD! She was perfect until I woke up the next morning - there was liquid vomit all over the place and the diarreah was so bad all day long it eventually came out in a "STREAM OF BLOOD" - I saw it with my own eyes - it was like a running faucet with deep red blood - I even took a sample to the hospital - It appears all the diarreah was so severe that it ruptured or something the capillaries in her rectum or whatever. But I know what I saw and it was after eating that raw food.

And, the amount she ate was not more than a few tablespoons. It was not much, certainly not the amount of food she normally eats.

Let's face it, as we get older, our bodies cannot adjust to severe change or drastic influences such as this. I think you would agree with me - it's not as if they are outdoor cats - I have had cats in our family who went outdoors but these are indoor cats - when I move and have a place of my own (soon) I will make sure they are given a protected area to go out in.

John, I thank you so much for your efforts, really. Just say a little prayer for my Dafni, and, if it is her time to go, well then, she must go - that is what I believe about humans also, including myself.

I will cry my eyes out - it is not easy to lose someone you love so much and, I know, I have lost both family and kitties whom I loved and still love so dearly. It hurts!

I still would accept any ideas you might have for Danfi - I did give her some baby food (chicken) a syringe full. So, we will see.
 
ploutos last decade
Ploutos

I am so sorry you are having such a difficult time right now with your kitties.


I used to work in a convalesent hospital and if people refused to eat they were allowed the right to NOT eat. Sometimes they died because they refused to eat. But they were given the right to die.

One of my instructors told us that there was a time when patients were force fed with large syrenges and that looking back she thought it was brutal to force feed with a syringe and she really meant it.

So there are varying opinions about allowing how to handle this sort of situation.

Also know that animals in the wild do not eat every day.


Pray to God to enlighten you with regards to Dafni and to help you let go if it is time for Dafni to let go.

I will send you all Reiki again.

God Bless you and have a good night.
 
Pat2006 last decade
Ploutos,

I want to share another experience with you with regards to one of my nieces when she was little.

My mother was attempting to give her a bath one day, but my little niece fought her and she fought with all her might to keep out of the water. Later that day my niece came down with the flew. My mother said that she had protected herself by refusing a bath.

My other neice when she was a baby kept getting her surgery reschedule because she kept getting a cold. We all knew that it was a protection mechanism. It was not time for her to have surgery yet and her spirit protected her by getting a cold.

So maybe Dafni has a reason for refusing to eat.

I will pray for you that you find some peace and that your kitties will be well.
 
Pat2006 last decade
Ploutos
When I pray for my dog I say to God:

God, He is your property you made him, don't let him suffer. Make him healthy and keep him safe.

And I say to my dog: Thank for coming and staying with me for so long for keeping mamma company and being mamma's best friend and I hope you had a good life. And when you go to heaven, tell everyone you had a good life here.

I pray like this EVERY night with my dog.

I will pray for you all as well.
 
Pat2006 last decade
i do believe you --concerning- occured after raw meat...i didnt suspect such---unless something i am missing ...

anyway--thanks for the gratitude--but i have done nothing here worth any thanks...if you speak of time--well, time is nothing...proof is in the results--and by the results i see ---i fuddled an oppurtunity to help...
 
John Stanton last decade
We do the best with the knowledge and experience that we have.

I just happen to remember about a program on vegetarian monkeys I saw once. Although these were vegetarian monkeys, scientist got a glimpse at one of those rare occassions when these monkeys ate meat and they discovered that they ate it with a twig in my hand and the meat on the other.

I saw the monkeys alternating bites between the twig and the meat. In otherwords, one bite of meat and one bite of twig, one bite of meat and one bite of twig. Sometimes we don't really don't know what goes on in the private lives of animals when they live or lived in the wild. Scientist in this particular incident considered themselves fortunate to have witnessed this incident. Maybe animals who are dometsticated have to eat different. I really don't know one way or the other. But when my dog was a puppy I did give her raw meat for a short time and I do not know whether or not it harmed her.
 
Pat2006 last decade
Sorry, didn't get to finish.

Scientist believed that the twig was an herb that helped the monkeys kill the parasites in the meat.
 
Pat2006 last decade
Thank you all - you are such very kind souls - and, as for you JOHN, you are the BEST.

It is not whether you were able to come up with the correct remedies to faciliate a recovery - it was the heartfelt effort you made which is the "barometer" of who you are as a person and a man.

I think, there is nothing more endearing, more masculine, more loving than a MAN who loves, respects and tries to save animals.

Boubou is not eating today although she is walking around, did a little "pee pee" and will not eat - she goes to the dish but changes her mind. She was in the bathroom "howling" - I ran in but she was just standing there. They gave me some meds for her but am not supposed to give on an empty stomach because of the taste - and the "bland" food which they gave me for her (WD) is not enticing her either. So we will take it one at a time.

By the way John, they are ALL 14, but from different litters in the spring some time. I was doing some rescue work at the time.

I do not believe in organized religion at all but, I am very spiritual in that I believe everything living is LIFE and "hopefully" there is something out there that has the power to hear our prayers.

I am sad that I could not have given Dafni a better life - oh sure, she was loved, and money is never an object when it comes to my girls, but we have had some rough spots on the road and I did want so much to have given them the BEST OF ALL!!

I am trying.
 
ploutos last decade
Good morning Ploutos

I am sure that your kitties love you and are happy to have you as their owner, protector, and provider. And I'm sure that they will speak well of you and have fond memories of you even after they leave earth.

Praying is something that is available to anyone and it does not require that we be religious.

I think it is a way to reach out to someone in a way that can't be done in person. A way to be supportive and even be present with someone long distance.

And if there is something out there that hears our prayers well then we gained something.

Praying can help us get in touch with our feelings of gratitude. Like be grateful for having the pleasure of the company of our animals. So I give them thanks.

I certainly connected with one of your kitties. I was dreaming about one of them or maybe both. He/they seemed to be all over and in and out of the blankets. Such gentle creatures they are.

Take care and be well.
 
Pat2006 last decade
Ploutos,

I have been reading through this thread and am very sorry you are having such a difficult time.

I have to disagree with the previous post re: force feeding. Force feeding is not always a bad thing. I believe it depends on the illness. I have saved many very ill kittens who stopped eating. If I hadn't force fed them, they would have died. Period. They are all happy healthy adult cats now.

I think it would help for you to know more about what's going on with Dafni. Can't your vet offer any specific ideas about what's going on? Has he/she done any tests other than x-rays--i.e. blood work? If so, what does it indicate?

Is Dafni dehydrated? If she has been off her food for several days, she is probably dehydrated. Dehydrated cats will not eat. If she is dehydrated, she needs sub-q fluids. Fluids by mouth aren't sufficient. Your vet can show you how to give sub-q fluids if you don't already know. This is one of the easiest ways to make a sick cat feel better and start eating again.

I don't think you should give up on Dafni yet. I wouldn't be satisfied until I got more answers from your vet. John is right that vets usually prescribe steroids and antibiotics just to address symptoms when they don't know what they are dealing with.
If your vet can't offer you any more insight, I would take her to someone else.

Good luck to you and Dafni.
Menou
 
menou last decade
I forgot to say that although I agree that raw food is best, because she is so debilitated at this point, I would give her whatever she will eat. Chicken or turkey baby food (no onion powder) mixed with water and a few drops of olive oil will work. You can syringe feed her a tiny bit at a time as long as she is not vomiting it back up. The other thing you can give her is homemade chicken broth (may even be better than the baby food right now).

menou
 
menou last decade
Thank you menou - I was just speaking wih another animal lover friend on the phone from Florida and she believes I should put her to sleep - she believes it is cruel to just have her "linger" with no food for so very long - it's been a week or more -

I agree with everyone's assessment of the vetirinary profession and medical profession at large. I think they are all legalized butchers in this country and legalized "mobsters" who only care about money and could not diagnose a cold let alone cure one, if their lives depended on it. They are useless, worthless morons who know NOTHING except to whip out their prescription pads and give you drugs and, christ, they don't even know how to do that well enough!

I am alternative medicine all the way - I have been dealing with a number of debilitating medical issues of my own and my remedies which I am using are all natural and alternative - going to a doctor in this country is a total waste of time and money and a real detriment to your health.

So, that is why I turned to ABC homeopathy for my little Dafni - I do have a homeopathic vet in Florida with whom I have been in touch and will call him again tomorrow. Perhaps I will take Dafni in to the vet here tomorrow for another rehydration - she does drink but not much.

Oh well - I will do everything I can - I will give her the baby food mixed with some organic chicken broth in the syringe, a little at a time and hope for the best.

Thank you all for your kind wishes - please, send little Dafni your thoughts of love and healing and perhaps all the energy coming her way will help her live!!

I cannot stop crying - I cannot stand to see an animal suffer especially when it is one of my own sweet babies! There is nothing more innocent in life, than those of the "animal kingdom".
 
ploutos last decade
wow menou
What a great answer!!!

Hope this is the answer to help Dafni.

Maybe prayer does work and you are the answer for Dafni.

ploutous hope you can get her to a vet today for the hydrating.

It makes sense as we humans won't eat either if we are dying of dirst.

Do the best you can and that is all you can do for her. Whether you decide to force feed her or not or to put her to sleep or not, you make the best decision you could with the knowledge and experience you have and there is no reason to allow anyone including yourself to make you feel bad regardless of what you decide to do.

I will keep sending my prayers and energy your way.

Thanks again menou for answering this cry for help.
 
Pat2006 last decade
I wonder if anyone knows if it's ok to give cats pedialite. The cashier once told me that some people give their dogs pedialite when they are sick. I had gone in there to buy sherbert to hydrate my dog when she refused to eat. And it always worked. If I could get her to eat the sherbert, she would then eat.
 
Pat2006 last decade

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