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Hypersensitive threw to high potnecie

Dear Friends,

I took a too high potencie from Lilim Tigrinum and react now hypersensitive. I took for a while Lilium Tigrinum in Lm diluited potencies to try to adjust the vital force but symptoms remaind. My homeopathy prescribed me Arsenicum Album threw the new symptoms,in Lm potencies diluited one drop in a cup of water . I ameliorate a lot. Now I take it for 3 months but still the hypersensitivness remains and still there are symptoms from my illness, i suffer from schizophrenia.

I red in posts about hypersensitivity that there are people who went threw similar scenarios.

My homeopathy is very expierenced but never had a case like this cause he prescribes very carefully and also take care with potencies. I took on my on a too high potencies from the remedy. I know it was a mistake but hope to get threw anyway.

I red that brisbane and sameervermani had already expierence in this cases. You wrote that threw the smillimum sensitivity will vanish.

The high dose from Lilium is already 6 months ago. It was a 460M that i potneciesd still higher with the fincke fluid method.
Arsen now I am taking about 3 months and still can't increase the dose.

How long can it take for the simillimum to restore normal sensitivity if the high dose is already 6 months ago?

In your practice, in your expierince, once found the true simillimum, is it a thing about day, weeks, months ore years?

I know that in homeopathy it is very individual, but it would help me to evaluate better my situation...

I still have some sympotms so it can be that there is needes still another remedy and that will fix it.

I always at the beginning of a new remedy I had to take Lm potencies and then slowly increase dose over a period of time. But never react so strong to a remedy like now after the 460M.

Maybe you know to tell me something about my situation.

I am happy and gratful for every expierence of you.


Luca W
  lucawi on 2019-06-30
This is an internet forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
On your earlier thread I gave my views on this hypersensitivity and ways to overcome it. And rarely if things do not settle giving a break to homeopathy will help. But you chose to ignore my post---it's your choice. At this moment I do not think any other member is doing wet dose.
maheeru 3 weeks ago
Dear maheeru,

you mean your post in which you wrote to rifill the Lm bottle with fresh water and then diluit it in other cups befor taking it??

It isn't the same when I diluite the drops in cups after?

Or which method do you mean to overcome my sensitivity?

So more diluited better it is?

Thanks for your fast answer!!
lucawi 3 weeks ago
I will try to drop the water out of the remedy bottle and rifill it with water, and then take one drop from the first cup or more diluited.

Actually I take one drop from the first cup.

See what will happen. Would be amazing to make progress.

And, I dind't ignore your post. I assumed that simone answerd me and therefore I answerd only to her. After answering I realised that the post was yours, but already did.
lucawi 3 weeks ago
First things first. Remedy has to be very similar to go high. But no guarantee that such high potencies will give benefit without any side effects or aggravation. But 460M seems a lot high. Did you finish other more common potencies like 10M, 50M, CM, DM and MM. Only MM is bigger than 460M because it's 1000M.

Dilution can be done in many ways. Medicinal solution bottle can be diluted any number of times. Then including dilution cups. Here there is a subtle difference in diluting medicinal bottle and including cups. Even in cups, we can go for any number of cups based on sensitivity. Not uncommon for hypersensitives to use 16 and 20 dilution cups. It could be tedious. Have you used sniff doses? They can also suit hypersensitives well. Even with sniff dose, a degree of dilution can be included.

Most wet dose advisories instruct that tablespoon or teaspoon doses may be taken either directly from medicinal bottle or from dilution cups. But I have found that drop doses are gentler than such teaspoon or tablespoon doses. Also the shakes and stirs can be lowered for hyper sensitive patients. You need to go for lesser shakes and stirs once the degree of sensitivity goes high. Two shakes, stirs would do in place of ten shakes or stirs.

There are five or so remedies used for over sensitivity. The list does not contain Ars. alb. Theoretically it may be agreed that similimum can take away the sensitivity but in practice it's rare. I think practical tools are: more dilution, switching to sniff doses.

If you think if you had enough of Ars. Alb. high doses and you think anti doting is necessary then you can try anti doting with low potencies of Nux v.

I think I have given most of the information that will be required for hyper sensitive people. It depends on what you make of it.
maheeru 3 weeks ago
Dear maheeru,

I will try your advices. I already tried to sniff but directly from the bottle, and I aggravated a lot. Should I try to sniff from the diluited cups? ...maybe I misunderstood this with the sniff doses.

I will figure out how many shakes and stires I will need.

From Lilium Tigrinum I had from 1M To 100M potencies and responded very well also to dry doses. But the 460M was to high and I began to have a very bad reaction. After that I became oversensitiv to the remedys. So for me it is not a natural thing that I am oversensitiv, so i think it is not part of my nature, I became it threw the 460M.

Thanks for your detailed answer, I will try and see what happen.

lucawi 3 weeks ago
Ok I recked you answer, your already wrote that also with sniff doses a number of dilutions can be included. Will figure out with which I make the best progress.

Wish you all the best.
lucawi 3 weeks ago
For Centesimals, sniffing directly from Medicinal bottle will be ok but if you have had aggravation, then medicinal solution needs to be diluted further. But for LMs do prepare a second bottle for sniffing.

Generally a second bottle is prepared for sniffing doses. It would be a corked bottle a small one in the range of 10 to 20 ml. Along with a few teaspoons of medicinal solution a teaspoon of medicinal alcohol will be added in, and from this new small bottle, a sniff will be made(by varying the distance between the nose and the bottle, doses were gently attenuated further). This new bottle is like another medicinal bottle but not a lot of doses can be made from this.

So to have more doses with more shakes, a reasonably big bottle like a 125ml bottle can be made by transferring a couple teaspoons or tablespoons from the first bottle to second bottle and additionally some fresh water be added. From this second bottle sniffing can be done to mark one dose. To make the doses gentle, further doses can be taken after shakes. Generally more dilution cups are not employed. But if you find the sniffs from second bottle still aggravating, then dilution cups may be employed. While these medicinal bottles won't be prepared afresh for subsequent doses, dilution cups have to be refilled with every new dose.
[Edited by maheeru on 2019-06-30 16:20:04]
maheeru 3 weeks ago
Dear Maheeru,

thank you for your detailed answer. I have now all possible information to the administraion of water potnecies. Hope i will make some progress.

The only thing i didn't understand and maybe could be important is waht do you mean with:

" While these medicinal bottles won't be prepared afresh for subsequent doses, dilution cups have to be refilled with every new dose."
lucawi 3 weeks ago
Think I got it. You mean that with this preparatio of the bottles i have to use every time a new cup cause this solution I made is not made to use more times the same cup.
lucawi 3 weeks ago
Dear Maheeru,

I rifilled the remedy bottle and took a teaspoon and gave it in a second glass from 50ml and took a sniff from it, and I feel happy to tell you that it changed a lot my sensation of the world and myself. Will see how I carry on. Al least if I return to my old state of beeing if the remedy is not the perfect simillimum I learnd a lot of this state. Now i realised that i feel isolated and not in conecction with the world and the people. You know, it is always difficult to realis it without having a point of reference. I am still 5 years suffering from schizophrenia and changing from one state to another, and never I really know who I am. It is quite difficult. But I learnd a lot of analyse myself and the language of homeopathy. So fortunatlly I am ameliorating.

Thank you!!
lucawi 3 weeks ago
" While these medicinal bottles won't be prepared afresh for subsequent doses, dilution cups have to be refilled with every new dose."

In this specific case I talked about two medicinal bottles. Otherwise we'll have one medicinal bottle. It is prepared one time and preserved for further doses. From this bottle one generally shakes and transfers a few drops to either one's mouth directly as a dose or if more dilution is required then to a dilution cup. (In case of sniff dose---dose will go to the nose and not to the mouth)

A dilution cup always is prepared fresh. Just after the dose--- the contents of the dilution cup is poured out--usually onto some plant or tree. Then for next dose, fresh water is filled to this dilution cup, and after transferring medicinal solution to this cup, there will be a few stirs, and then from this dilution cup, a few drops will be taken as a dose. So far this is what happens for one dilution cup, if more dilution cups are employed, then from every preceding dilution cup, some drops get transferred to
the following dilution cup after a few stirs. From the last dilution cup, a few drops will be taken directly under the tongue as a dose.

I believe you refilled the medicinal bottle once with some of the contents of the old preparation intact. If you want to make a dilution at the medicinal bottle level, then you have to leave a few drops atleast from the previous solution in the bottle or 10% of previous contents inside and add fresh water. This dilution in the medicinal bottle should not be done again and again for every other dose. It's usually a one time preparation or is done occasionally to change the original level dilution. This is the same procedure one has to follow when the bottle's solution is going to end. If the solution in the medicinal bottle is going to end and if you intend to take the same medicine for some more time, you should leave some content in the bottle and add fresh water to the bottle to refill the solution. If you use up the whole solution and you start from the scratch, you will have to compensate all the shakes you already have done for the previous solution so as not to disturb the ladder of earlier progressively attenuated/plussed doses.
maheeru 3 weeks ago
Fine, think now I'am up to date. Will see how will develope. Thanks a lot!!

Greetings from Italy

Luca W
lucawi 3 weeks ago

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