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2006 flu & general vaccine questions... Joe?

to Joe or others:
i have two questions:
about the influenzinum for 2006-07, do you suggest 9c or 30c? this would be for myself and my 13 year old daughter.

2nd question-
she has never been vaccinated (and is a very healthy child). i have heard that there is a growing concern about whooping cough and tb in our state (CA). are there homeopathics that she can take for prevention of these?

p.s. joe-i am placing an order for the remedies we have been discussing (with abc) and thought i would include these...
  Louise in CA on 2006-09-26
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
I believe that it is still far too early to think of Influenzinum which I believe is popular in the winter months Nov onwards when the weather is cold.

It is just a waste of time to use the 9 and 30c potencies inspite of what someone has been stating on this forum.

It will only help as a prophylactic in the 200c potency and you must use the dry pellets as I tried it in the wet dose which did not help at all.

Glad to note that your daughter has never been vaccinated but I am not an expert on the pros and cons and I feel that at her age of 13 years she will not experience the violent trauma that babies a few days old suffer when their parents consent to give them their vaccinations (multiple) and they are very surprised when a perfectly normal child turns autistic.

You might talk to Walkin about the vaccinations as he is more knowledgeable on the subject.

I have only had the small pox vaccine in all my 77 years as it was mandatory during my time. I have survived nicely without all of them.
Joe De Livera last decade
I had unacceptable reactions the two times I tried taking it in 200C potency.
Daisy43 last decade
That is very strange unless you repeated it daily for some time.

Can you tell us what the reaction was ?
Joe De Livera last decade
Hi Joe,

I took it twice as 200C, about a month apart. Each time my eczema returned. One dose of my constitutional quickly cleared it up, but it was still annoying. For those who might not know or have their constitutional remedy it might be an issue.

I think you said that Influenzinum was one of the nosode remedies (apologies, I may have remembered incorrectly) for which you need to be in top health before taking or there could be complications.

I do have Influenzinum on hand in case pandemic flu shows up, but I also have it in 30C to choose from. Since I haven't had the flu in decades I'm not particularly concerned about catching it, plus I have Gelsemium and a number of other likely influenza remedies.
Daisy43 last decade
If you took Influenzinum 200 a month apart and you discovered that it triggered Eczema, this remedy is not for you.

Indeed your case is very interesting as I have never encountered this phenomenon.

If you would like to treat your Eczema, Arnica 6c in the wet dose will help you. Arnica is also a wonderful remedy which I have used daily for the last 11 years and it has done me a lot of good like keeping my blood pressure low and promoting deep sleep.

Gels is very good as a flu preventive remedy and you must take it as soon as you feel the first signs of unease which can even start with a sniffle.
Joe De Livera last decade
Thanks, Joe. I don't have eczema, the constitutional took care of it.

My plan for pandemic flu is to keep both Influenzinum and Oscillococcinum close by. (I am probably more likely to take Oscillo at the first sign of flu-like symptoms.) And if that does not take care of it, to choose a remedy based on my developing symptoms or the genus epidemicus if that has been broadcast by then.

Here is a good article on possible flu remedies:


Last winter I heard from a few folks who got the flu. Either Influenzinum OR Oscillo worked for them but not both (they tried one, unsuccessfully and then switched to the other). That isn't prophylactic use, but an indication they might be useful.

One of my concerns about panflu is that the onset may be very fast and hard compared to seasonal flu and that 30C may not be strong enough. So, I am keeping Influenzinum 200C in reserve.
Daisy43 last decade
Oscillococcinum, I have observed is most effective after you get the flu. It is not as effective as Influenzinum to prevent it when like Gelseminum it prevents the virus from getting a look in and it most probably aborts the virus.

You are wise in having both remedied and I would urge you to also stock the Gelsemium.
Joe De Livera last decade
The January/February issue of Homeopathy Today (National Center for Homeopathy) reported on an international 'Homeopathy and Avian Flu' conference in Paris last November.

The concensus was that Oscillo may be useful in reducing the duration of symptoms but that there was no evidence it is useful in the prevention of flu. Also that the data is not strong enough to recommend Oscillo for first-line treatment in a flu pandemic.

I do indeed have Gelsemium as well as a number of other common and less common flu remedies.

However, for my friends who know very little about homeopathy, Oscillo is a useful and available item to recommend for their influenza arsenal. Influenzinum I can find only online, whereas Oscillo is available in many stores here in the US.
Daisy43 last decade
It occurs to me that building up your general bodily resistance by toning it up can be promoted with Arnica 30c taken in the wet dose nightly from now on.

I have used this amazing remedy nightly much to the chagrin of the classical school of homeopaths who warned me that I should never promote the use of any remedy for over a few days as it would otherwise lead to various untoward results, the nature of which they would always refuse to divulge.

However I have dared to use this remedy nightly since 1996 and am the best living guinea pig to refute their classical theory.

My BP at age 77 is 120/80 with a pulse of 65. I have proved beyond any doubt that it is this daily dose of Arnica that has helped me to maintain this equilibrium both in my BP and in my general health without any aches or pains in my body.

I would recommend that you too start on this therapy nightly and report your response on the morning after your first dose taken just before sleep.

As no doubt you will appreciate the rationale in using it is to improve your bodily tone and with it your immunity against inroads by any virus. You may like to know that I have never been ill with flu like symptoms for as long as I can remember and I believe that this is due to the Arnica.
Joe De Livera last decade

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