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It might do so yes.
What a shame some of these homoeopaths no longer post here. Lots of good knowledge.
What a shame some of these homoeopaths no longer post here. Lots of good knowledge.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Yes that might be suppression, unless the distension of the stomach came before the cramps (old symptom returning).
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
girl2010 last decade
You should be taking her to a doctor if there is even a suspicion of c-ancer.
Suppression blocks the natural outlets of the underlying disease. Since this energy is still attempting to pump to the surface, it will find new channels, through any other weak spot the person has. If there is no weak spot, it will eventually create one - and voila new symptoms.
I would suspect something serious if the cramps stopped but there is swelling - fibroids perhaps - a doctor really needs to be consulted so they can examine the area and attempt to visualise it as well.
Suppression blocks the natural outlets of the underlying disease. Since this energy is still attempting to pump to the surface, it will find new channels, through any other weak spot the person has. If there is no weak spot, it will eventually create one - and voila new symptoms.
I would suspect something serious if the cramps stopped but there is swelling - fibroids perhaps - a doctor really needs to be consulted so they can examine the area and attempt to visualise it as well.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Nope,
Antibiotics side effects cannot be compared to homeopathy aggravations/side effects. Antibiotics causes damage to system even if taken in proper dosage and homeopathic remedy surely don't have harmfulness if taken properly i.e proper dosage, right remedy, single remedy.
What i understand from your case you is that dosage is normal but may be the remedy isn't selected properly.
And homeopathic remedies don't cause diseases.
Antibiotics side effects cannot be compared to homeopathy aggravations/side effects. Antibiotics causes damage to system even if taken in proper dosage and homeopathic remedy surely don't have harmfulness if taken properly i.e proper dosage, right remedy, single remedy.
What i understand from your case you is that dosage is normal but may be the remedy isn't selected properly.
And homeopathic remedies don't cause diseases.
Paki1 last decade
It is true, taken correctly homoeopathy is very safe.
When used incorrectly, problems can occur. Not the toxic problems of orthodox medication, which is one of their primary problems. The very nature of our medicine preparation allows us to avoid that altogther. This alone is one of the major advantages of homoeopathy over most other forms of medicine and should not be undervalued.
Suppression is harmful no matter what therapy you use to do it. In some ways homoeopathy can more effectively do this because of the lack of toxic side effects - they can be taken more often.
When used incorrectly, problems can occur. Not the toxic problems of orthodox medication, which is one of their primary problems. The very nature of our medicine preparation allows us to avoid that altogther. This alone is one of the major advantages of homoeopathy over most other forms of medicine and should not be undervalued.
Suppression is harmful no matter what therapy you use to do it. In some ways homoeopathy can more effectively do this because of the lack of toxic side effects - they can be taken more often.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
People lie about it being totally safe. I assume they do that to entice you to do what they want or perhaps they are just parroting what companies who are selling products say (to make you buy them). Most practitioners who have worked with patients face-to-face see what can happen when homoeopathy is used carelessly.
It is important to remember - nothing that can heal, cannot also harm. The whole of homoeopathic medicine is based upon the principle 'What a substance can cause, it can cure'. Many people seem to ignore the implication of this - if it can cure you, it can hurt you.
Suppression cannot happen if you still have your old symptoms. They would have to be blocked by the remedies, to reappear elsewhere.
More common than suppression, is simply nothing happening at all. It takes more precision to choose a remedy that does anything at all than with orthodox medicine (or herbs or other physical medicines). So the chances of suppression are much lower. In fact, a half-trained homoeopath is much more dangerous than an untrained one. They have just enough skill to apply a remedy to the local symptoms with success, but not enough to understand what to do to cure the underlying disease.
You don' tneed to panic. Suppression can only happen if your symptoms disappear under the action of a remedy. Suppression can also only happen if these symptoms are just in one location, and more typically on the surface of the organism rather than deep inside (so mentals are harder to suppress than skin for instance).
Just taking a medicine that doesn't work, cannot suppress. In fact because of the way we make our remedies, this is much safer than doing this with orthodox medicines than can kill you even when they are completely wrong.
It is important to remember - nothing that can heal, cannot also harm. The whole of homoeopathic medicine is based upon the principle 'What a substance can cause, it can cure'. Many people seem to ignore the implication of this - if it can cure you, it can hurt you.
Suppression cannot happen if you still have your old symptoms. They would have to be blocked by the remedies, to reappear elsewhere.
More common than suppression, is simply nothing happening at all. It takes more precision to choose a remedy that does anything at all than with orthodox medicine (or herbs or other physical medicines). So the chances of suppression are much lower. In fact, a half-trained homoeopath is much more dangerous than an untrained one. They have just enough skill to apply a remedy to the local symptoms with success, but not enough to understand what to do to cure the underlying disease.
You don' tneed to panic. Suppression can only happen if your symptoms disappear under the action of a remedy. Suppression can also only happen if these symptoms are just in one location, and more typically on the surface of the organism rather than deep inside (so mentals are harder to suppress than skin for instance).
Just taking a medicine that doesn't work, cannot suppress. In fact because of the way we make our remedies, this is much safer than doing this with orthodox medicines than can kill you even when they are completely wrong.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
I can't answer those questions. It is only be examining a case, watching it evolve, reassessing regularly that you can know if the Direction of Cure is correct.
Direction of Cure is the principle that keeps us from making mistakes with patients. As long as a homoeopath knows what it is, and can utilize it, then there should be no danger at all.
Homoeopathy in the hands of the careless and poorly trained is dangerous, but this is not homoeopathy's fault.
Direction of Cure is the principle that keeps us from making mistakes with patients. As long as a homoeopath knows what it is, and can utilize it, then there should be no danger at all.
Homoeopathy in the hands of the careless and poorly trained is dangerous, but this is not homoeopathy's fault.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
girl2010
there is a clear distinction between homeopathic proving and actual disease. a real disease can't develop in the course of homeopathic proving.
so you need not feel guilty about your mother's condition.
many self proclaimed best homeopaths in the world talk very loudly but don't understand the basics of homeopathy.
there is a clear distinction between homeopathic proving and actual disease. a real disease can't develop in the course of homeopathic proving.
so you need not feel guilty about your mother's condition.
many self proclaimed best homeopaths in the world talk very loudly but don't understand the basics of homeopathy.
♡ kadwa last decade
A proving is not dangerous as long as it is not continually reinforced by constant redosing. Hahnemann even claimed provings actually improve your health. Over time a proving can become grafted on to a person's older symptoms, especially if that person is quite sensitive. It is not very common, but it is possible. The patient must be sensitive to the remedy to get such a grafting, so very few remedies would be capable of this for any individual.
It is not provings that are the concern, it is suppression. Suppression and provings are different things altogether.
Suppression I see frequently in clinic. Suppression by orthodox medicine, by herbal medicine, by acupuncture, by aryedic medicine, by homoeopathic medicine, by chinese medicine. Any time the symptoms in one just location are treated, anytime a one sided prescription is made, without understanding where the symptoms are coming from - then you can get suppression.
If your mother has new symptoms, something is wrong. There is no doubt about that. Was it suppression or not, there is no way to tell that really, but she should be seeking medical advice of some sort.
There is certainly no reason for you to feel guilty about something a homoeopath does. That is their responsibility whether they own up to it or not.
It is not provings that are the concern, it is suppression. Suppression and provings are different things altogether.
Suppression I see frequently in clinic. Suppression by orthodox medicine, by herbal medicine, by acupuncture, by aryedic medicine, by homoeopathic medicine, by chinese medicine. Any time the symptoms in one just location are treated, anytime a one sided prescription is made, without understanding where the symptoms are coming from - then you can get suppression.
If your mother has new symptoms, something is wrong. There is no doubt about that. Was it suppression or not, there is no way to tell that really, but she should be seeking medical advice of some sort.
There is certainly no reason for you to feel guilty about something a homoeopath does. That is their responsibility whether they own up to it or not.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
You wanted me to take gall acid & Paris quad who are far away from the remedy I need David. Without wanting to listen to me if I agree with it or not. I was told to just take it and later even that I am hysterical which offended me greatly. So please don't talk about dangers of getting the wrong remedy prescribed. Thank you. I was willing to take lots of remedies but gall acid was a bit to far away from my original issues. Some homeopaths apparently don't like the idea of being wrong and rather call the patient being hysterical or in denial it seems.
I will say again I was willing to take almost any remedy, but the ones you prescribed towards the end were a bit to far away to make me want to take them I am happy I did not put such remedies into my body
I feel bad for being like this but I am angry
[message edited by Silicea on Mon, 27 Jun 2011 08:20:27 BST]
I will say again I was willing to take almost any remedy, but the ones you prescribed towards the end were a bit to far away to make me want to take them I am happy I did not put such remedies into my body
I feel bad for being like this but I am angry
[message edited by Silicea on Mon, 27 Jun 2011 08:20:27 BST]
Silicea last decade
Hura isn't an unknown remedy, it has a proving, many materia medica entries, is well represented in our repertories, and what is more I have used it a number of times sucessfully in clinic to cure patients. There are a number of cured cases that used Hura found in our literature. The polycrest remedies don't cure everyone. Even on this forum I have had good results with Hecla lava and Vanadium metallicum, two remedies very rarely used. My prescriptions in clinic are about 40% polycrests, 60% smaller remedies, and I have more success with the smaller ones than the polycrests because when I prescribe them, I am much more certain of the choice.
It is always your choice what remedies you take. I am not upset that you didn't take my advice (speaking to Girl2010) and I am always happy to take the time out and explain things to you.
It is always your choice what remedies you take. I am not upset that you didn't take my advice (speaking to Girl2010) and I am always happy to take the time out and explain things to you.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Oh great for you... I did not have options because David would feel to dissapointed and me guilty if I did not take the remedy he prescribed after spending so much time on my case.
I tried many times to make it clear that I feel misunderstood about my issues but his mind seemed to have been fixed on the idea that I cannot stay alone and need someone to constantly watch me over. How come that I spent many days on my own with noone with me in my past 5 years, not even on the internet? Or that I once had a life, had friends and was very social... I feel I have gotten humiliated by getting prescribed remedies for babies. Its a nobrainer that this remedy cant be me, such remedy would never have been popular in school, be social or have friends in his life... but no I was apparently hysterical and in denial
Ah I will leave it for now. I was a tough case, and take all the blame, but I guess I need some more professional homeopaths who can keep a clear mind and not forget my original issues as the case progresses.
Thanks for all the help I received at first David, I mean it + the humiliations, critic & hurt I reveived later. Now I can try to heal myself,
[message edited by Silicea on Tue, 28 Jun 2011 04:24:14 BST]
I tried many times to make it clear that I feel misunderstood about my issues but his mind seemed to have been fixed on the idea that I cannot stay alone and need someone to constantly watch me over. How come that I spent many days on my own with noone with me in my past 5 years, not even on the internet? Or that I once had a life, had friends and was very social... I feel I have gotten humiliated by getting prescribed remedies for babies. Its a nobrainer that this remedy cant be me, such remedy would never have been popular in school, be social or have friends in his life... but no I was apparently hysterical and in denial
Ah I will leave it for now. I was a tough case, and take all the blame, but I guess I need some more professional homeopaths who can keep a clear mind and not forget my original issues as the case progresses.
Thanks for all the help I received at first David, I mean it + the humiliations, critic & hurt I reveived later. Now I can try to heal myself,
[message edited by Silicea on Tue, 28 Jun 2011 04:24:14 BST]
Silicea last decade
Hmm than we are in a kind of similar situation... wishing to get a remedy prescribed that would fit our issues better.
I feel really really bad for being like this. I know david did this all for free and really tried to help me. Its unfortunate that I reacted the way I did when I felt offended by being called hysterical. I do not want to make David look bad. I know I am to blame and feel guilty. I am just angry for being misunderstood and rejected. I should be ashamed for what I have done.
Disclaimer: This is not an attempt to get you back David, so that I wont get misunderstood again and hope this does not make me appear I am in denial about it now either. Because I dont think so... sure I would like it, but no way, I still feel hurt and would not want to risk it again.
Edit: I posted a few times a bit of my case on here again in hope another homeopath would prescribe me something, but seems like David is the only one on here who takes on many cases at once. But on the other hand if David couldnt help me, than I am sure no other homeopath on here can help me.
I think natrum muriaticum would be a good remedy to try for me. They have a problem with being always misunderstood as far as I know. When they feel at the end in their lifes they consider suicide because they feel no one understands them anyway I think I read somewhere
[message edited by Silicea on Tue, 28 Jun 2011 04:33:52 BST]
I feel really really bad for being like this. I know david did this all for free and really tried to help me. Its unfortunate that I reacted the way I did when I felt offended by being called hysterical. I do not want to make David look bad. I know I am to blame and feel guilty. I am just angry for being misunderstood and rejected. I should be ashamed for what I have done.
Disclaimer: This is not an attempt to get you back David, so that I wont get misunderstood again and hope this does not make me appear I am in denial about it now either. Because I dont think so... sure I would like it, but no way, I still feel hurt and would not want to risk it again.
Edit: I posted a few times a bit of my case on here again in hope another homeopath would prescribe me something, but seems like David is the only one on here who takes on many cases at once. But on the other hand if David couldnt help me, than I am sure no other homeopath on here can help me.
I think natrum muriaticum would be a good remedy to try for me. They have a problem with being always misunderstood as far as I know. When they feel at the end in their lifes they consider suicide because they feel no one understands them anyway I think I read somewhere
[message edited by Silicea on Tue, 28 Jun 2011 04:33:52 BST]
Silicea last decade
To silicea,
You stated
'Ah I will leave it for now. I was a tough case, and take all the blame, but I guess I need some more professional homeopaths who can keep a clear mind and not forget my original issues as the case progresses'
What i understood from reading you replies is that may be during been treated by David, Did David mostly concentrate on you mental state and forgots you original (Physical issues) as the case progress ??
If yes then there your treatment was going in right direction i.e direction of cure, Read as Banerjea.P (BANERJEE Prosad). says
' your prescriptions are not on the basis of the 'name' of the disease-but on the basis of the peculiarity of the 'patient'-the peculiarity that marks out that particular patient from others.'
And
'we can learn to understand the mind, and if we pay special attention to the mental symptoms while selecting a medicine, our object will have been realised'
Mental state is needed to cure the 'Person' not only disease and that's mental state which tells us to select remedy and usually its mental state that helps us to judge the treatment is going towards 'CURE'
If understood wrong about You and David's treatment, please ignore me.
Thanks
I am not Defending anyone, so please don't mind.
You stated
'Ah I will leave it for now. I was a tough case, and take all the blame, but I guess I need some more professional homeopaths who can keep a clear mind and not forget my original issues as the case progresses'
What i understood from reading you replies is that may be during been treated by David, Did David mostly concentrate on you mental state and forgots you original (Physical issues) as the case progress ??
If yes then there your treatment was going in right direction i.e direction of cure, Read as Banerjea.P (BANERJEE Prosad). says
' your prescriptions are not on the basis of the 'name' of the disease-but on the basis of the peculiarity of the 'patient'-the peculiarity that marks out that particular patient from others.'
And
'we can learn to understand the mind, and if we pay special attention to the mental symptoms while selecting a medicine, our object will have been realised'
Mental state is needed to cure the 'Person' not only disease and that's mental state which tells us to select remedy and usually its mental state that helps us to judge the treatment is going towards 'CURE'
If understood wrong about You and David's treatment, please ignore me.
Thanks
I am not Defending anyone, so please don't mind.
Paki1 last decade
To paki:
Thanks for the info it was the mentals though, not the psychicals. I felt we have gotten far away from the original mentals which were still present and the main issues which were social anxiety; desire and yet at the same time also aversion to be close to people; me feeling ugly (Body Dysmorphia) and worthless but yes I talked way too much on here for some reason. I behaved differently than I do in real life, so it was me who stirred my case into the wrong direction. Probably in an attempt to avoid dealing with or talking about my real issues, I believe. I could not present myself in a depressing way. I felt who will want to deal with me if I sound so depressing and list all my depressing problems. So the way I behaved was open, talk active, attention seeking etc
Paki, could you tell me if natrum muriaticum is a remedy that will want sympathy but when he gets the sympathy he will not want it but rather reject it, and wish he had never asked for it in the first place? And would he even feel embarrassed for it like I do now after my anger subsided, now that I am not feeling misunderstood anymore or does that sound like a different remedy?
Thanks
Sorry for being so off topic, I would start a new thread but fear I would not be seen.
Thanks for the info it was the mentals though, not the psychicals. I felt we have gotten far away from the original mentals which were still present and the main issues which were social anxiety; desire and yet at the same time also aversion to be close to people; me feeling ugly (Body Dysmorphia) and worthless but yes I talked way too much on here for some reason. I behaved differently than I do in real life, so it was me who stirred my case into the wrong direction. Probably in an attempt to avoid dealing with or talking about my real issues, I believe. I could not present myself in a depressing way. I felt who will want to deal with me if I sound so depressing and list all my depressing problems. So the way I behaved was open, talk active, attention seeking etc
Paki, could you tell me if natrum muriaticum is a remedy that will want sympathy but when he gets the sympathy he will not want it but rather reject it, and wish he had never asked for it in the first place? And would he even feel embarrassed for it like I do now after my anger subsided, now that I am not feeling misunderstood anymore or does that sound like a different remedy?
Thanks
Sorry for being so off topic, I would start a new thread but fear I would not be seen.
Silicea last decade
Silicea,
This again is to be answered by Dr. David who keenly takes cases and tries to resolve in a minimum time span. request him again if you feel good in respect of him.
This again is to be answered by Dr. David who keenly takes cases and tries to resolve in a minimum time span. request him again if you feel good in respect of him.
mamsha last decade
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