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Unhomeopathic procedure

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Dear Members, dear Joe

Once again I have to come on the plan outlining, that Joe de liveras suggestions are unhomoepathic procedure.

They defy basic homeoapthic principles such as selection by symptom similitude and individualisation of the case at hand.

To follow such suggestions is dangerous. I have seen asthma cases being badly aggravated when giving the wrong potentised remedy.

To tell anyone without looking deeply into the individual circumstances to come off ongoing medication is DANGEROUS and IRRESPONSIBLE.

IMO: this is a forum discussing homeopathic matters, and not a place for ignorants (of the homeoapthic method) to advertise their allopathic and dangerous treatment procedures.
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Hans Weitbrecht

http://www.otherhealth.com/showthread.php?t=6561&highlight=joe+de+livera
 
  gavinimurthy on 2006-11-27
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Dear Joe,

As you know, this is a homeopathic discussion forum. It is one thing to share your experiences here for practitioners to think about or consider.

It is quite another matter to suggest that people should try X remedy for Y disease when it is clearly UNhomeopathic. As Hans has said, and I agree, it is potentially dangerous advice. You may not feel this way - but others are also working from their clinical experience - and their experience is that this is a dangerous way to prescribe.

Please feel free to participate in discussions - but please refrain from giving allopathic prescriptions in this manner on this site. Thank you.

All the best,
Wishing you Happy Holidays -
Lisa

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Lisa is moderator of otherhealth.
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Dear Members, dear Joe

Homeopathy forms the basis of this discussion and of this discussion forum. Homeopathy is a method of medicines defined by their true actions brought out in provings done by healthy individuals, being prescribed on the basis of disease-symptom similitude to the established provings and applied in the most suitable manner ie. potency, repetition etc.

Joe De Livera does exactly the opposite:
No disease-symptom pictures are provided
Remedies are used which have not brought out any relevant symptoms
Remedies are used which are unproven
Claims of cures are made on face value

Further, He encourages to test medicines on the already sick and suffering, fully aware, that these tests could prolong and worsen the disease.

To leave you, I want to recall Hahnemann’s own words:

‘’There are but two principal methods of cure: the one based only on accurate observation of nature, on careful experimentation and pure experience, the homeopathic [before me never designedly used] and a second which does not do this, the heteropathic or allopathic. Each opposes the other, and only he who does not know either can hold the delusion that they can ever approach each other or even become united, OR TO MAKE HIMSELF SO RIDICULOUS AS TO PRACTISE AT ONE TIME HOMOEOPATHICALLY AT ANOTHER ALLOPATHICALLY, ACCORDING TO THE PLEASURE OF THE PATIENT; a practice which may be called criminal treason against divine homeopathy.’’
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Hans Weitbrecht
 
gavinimurthy last decade
You wrote:

< ..I believe that I have proved that my method is equal to your classical method and in some respects is even better as the cure is almost instantaneous. You must remember that the patient is looking for a quick cure and if Eczema can be cured within a week by Arnica, I do not think that it can harm the patient in any way.>

Joe, there is no such entity as an ' almost instantaneous ' cure and that no harm will come to the patient ' if Eczema can be cured within a week by Arnica, '. The Central Nervous System and the Skin are derived from the same germinal layer in the embryo. There will be definite pathological reverberations in the nervous system but with no signs and symptoms in the interim. If you pursue the case long enough, you can be certain of manifestations, Anecdotally. I have heard of a case of unilateral
deafness not long after the resolution of some dermatological problem.

Post-influenza recovery is slow even though the patient may be ambulant.
A lacerated injury may have an uneventful recovery without any stitch abscess but the re-growth of the nerve fibriles in the cicatrice will take months.

With regards
Lew
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Another Class-A-Bad-Actor-Play.

Thread after thread, post after post. Practice made you very perfect.

Keep trying may be after a million posts Monument of Joepathy will crumble at your head.
 
kuldeep last decade
Homeopathic medicines cannot be prescribed on the methods of Allopathy. Like 'THIS medicine for THAT disease'.

The Homeopathic CAUSATIVE factor should be found out before recklessly prescribing a medicine (like Arnica) for ANY & ALL diseases. OTHERWISE, it is just placiebo'cally only a palliative (only temporary relief leading & cumulating to more powerful & dangerous symptoms later on, in the long term).

Homeopathically Rules Explained : 'PLACIEBO method '

A medicine given JUST to SIMPLY MAKE-BELIEVE satisfy the patient that he is taking some medicine for his problems / diseases. Mostly, these medicines are do not have any physically curative effect. BUT to only INDUCE & satisfy the patient INTO BELIEVING psychologically that these medicines are working on him. The patient by psychological law of Expectation (anticipation) starts believing in the placebo medicine and experiences some psychological relief, BUT THE INTERNAL DEEP-SEATED CAUSATIVE DISEASE FACTOR REMAINS THE SAME and further dangerously cumulates into a powerful inter-woven complicated case disease.


BE CAUTIOUS : Read this links throughly before attempting self-medicating.
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/homeopathicmedicine.htm
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/86602/
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/93063/

CONSIDER THIS (by Winston Churchill) :
'A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to put its pants on'

Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
 
Nesha-India last decade

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