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Lachesis or Bryonia - Headache

Headache, has been mild for past 25 days. Last 4 days increased.
- More on left side
- Pulsating (like the heartbeat)
- Better by sleeping
- Any movement aggravates severly (esp walking up stairs)
- Better by eating (esp sweet), hunger aggravates
- Worse by noise, light
- Extends to the ears and sometimes to nose

What potency should I take
  abcgul on 2004-10-15
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Better by sleeping contra indicates Lachesis.

Try Bryonia 30, three times a day.Stop as soon as relief is obtained.

bandarbabu2000 last decade
lachesis prefered between the 2 due to pain extension modality---

better after eating and/or while eating?
John Stanton last decade
what type of sweets ?
John Stanton last decade

What do you do now?

This is one of the practical problmes of seeking a remedy on internet.

You seem to be knowledgeble about homeopathy,as you didn't ask for the remedy,but wanted a suggestion as to the choice between the two.

Now, two of us are telling differently, though for different reasons.

Now,you are back to square one.

One suggestion, read about the two remedies more thoroughly, and decide.

All the best.

bandarbabu2000 last decade
Murthy and John,
Thanks so much. I am better "during" eating, and sweets preferred are cake, doughnuts, am not too fond of chocolates. The headache starts in the morning itself when I wake up. Also cool air will aggravate, in fact even if I breathe a little cold air, the head will hurt. This is why I avoid morning walks -since mornings are cool and the cool breeze hurts the head. If I have to go out, I will wrap the head.
abcgul last decade
remedy is nux-vomica by information given---indications are that allopathic medicine envolvement complicated by dietart indiscretion---
John Stanton last decade
single dose nux-vomica 200c

stay away from acidic foods--coffee;tea;coke,pepsi,and the like;vinegar;fruits and juices;alcoholic beverages ; ...etc
John Stanton last decade
Thanks John, what potency should I take and for how long?

I appreciate your point of view, though I feel that I am at square 3, not one, because I have very good perspectives from you and John, its a 3rd point of view, which I may not have had on my own. Also, I am a real beginner, just scratching the surface. Do you also feel that its nux vomica....
abcgul last decade
murthy --use some books next time instead of guessing...
John Stanton last decade
best taken before sleep--1-2 hour after last eating
John Stanton last decade
John is a more experienced prescriber.

Nux.vomica is a good starting point,after allopathic dosing.

He said one dose 200 potency.

Go,ahead and report back.

bandarbabu2000 last decade
thanks, will try tonight
abcgul last decade
depending on response --it seem sepia ; lycopodium; sulphur--have indications---but due to anti-depressants most likely 'side-effect' syndrome envolved here..
John Stanton last decade
Thanks John

I am willing to be corrected.
You started discussing also.!!
That really helps.

bandarbabu2000 last decade
Neither Lachesis nor Bryonia for your headache Abcgul !

See my posts under Migraine !

Left sided ...throbbing headache...choice between:

1. Spigelia (if due to nervousness...only one dose of 200C). Also for those who have a weak heart.
Repeat with higher potency only after interval of 2/3 days.

2. Glonoine ( throbbing, sunrise to sunset, BP high...take frequent doses of 6C or 30C)

3.Selenium (If you have in addition ....early graying of hair, costipation, liver weakness and itching on palms and between fingers and toes).Headache increases with the sun exposure.
Take 200c at intervals of 2 hours until improvement sets in.

Select the one that matches best.

Don't take Lachesis (made from snake poision)indiscriminately .....be very sure the symptoms match ...only then take.

Pankaj Varma
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
thanks for your response, one thing I did not indicate. As John indicated that it could be Sepia for the headache. (if you have read my case on depression, I have spoken about Thuja). My doctor gave me Silicea 200 after Thuja 10 M which caused armpit itching(he said that Thuja had exhausted its action). But, Silicea didnt work. Then he gave me Sepia 30 (3 doses for 15 days) and Sepia 200 (1 dose for 15 days). I noticed that this headache began after I started Sepia. I also got some tickling cough (for 2 seconds on about 3 different days) and there was some mucous in the throat very very mild. I also got some tiny itchy eruptions on my back, chest, arms, around the nose, scalp, ears.. But, no improvement in mental symtpoms.

Whether headache, itching, cough - mucous is because of Sepia I really do not know.
abcgul last decade

Square 4,5,6 !!!

There is a way out,which I normally follow,when I find that multiple remedies are suggested.

I read the materia medica of the medicines concerned,simple materia medicas,like Nash,Boericke,and Kent.

Then decide what is closest to my "present"symptoms.Don't mix up the chronic symtoms you had since years.!!

Take it a dose,and observe for a few hours.Normally for acute problems,the medicine should give some relief with in a few hours.

Say, you try Nux,in the night.If you still feel the same symptoms,next morning,without any relief,then Nux is not your medicine.

Again go back to your books,and take the next best medicine you think.

Don't try more than 3 medicines on your own,or through internet advice.

If there is no relief,even after three well choosen medicines (as per your knoweldge), it is time to see a competent professional homeopath.

Hope this helps.

bandarbabu2000 last decade
Sepia 200 for 15 days.!!!

Sepia 200 one dose works for at least a month.!!!

When did you take Sepia last?

Stop all medicines,and wait..wait..wait.

bandarbabu2000 last decade
Bandarbabuji (your mail id says this ;-))
Agree with you, this is square 6 definitely, I am progressing. Suniye sabki, kariye manki (for the benefit of other readers...this is a proverb in Hindi which means listen to everyone, but do what you think is right)

Yes, I think I will do what you suggest.... I now have many perspectives, but there are some which seem very sensible. I have read up each of the remedies, and I think, I kind of know which one is close (I wouldnt have known if I hadnt gone through the squares..)

Thanks for your suggestions. BTW, why arent you responding on my depression mail. Incidentally, when I tell people that I have depression, they are shocked to know that (ofcourse I dont announce this to the whole world). Maybe a couple of friends.....

thanks again
abcgul last decade
I took Sepia 200 last Saturday - 9th Oct.
abcgul last decade
Abcgul !

Just reviewed both threads:

1. Headache
2. Depression

from you.

(...and you have intense itching over the body).

Revised recommendations:

Psorinum 1M (thats it!!).

Pankaj Varma
PANKAJ VARMA last decade

Now,you have to read psorinum also.!!

You took sepia on 9th Oct.That perhaps was the last of those 15 days.

Now,wait atleast for a week,to say the least,from now.Meanwhile read all the remedies suggested.

Come back here,only if you feel worse, or the same,after a week also.

You have to forget about Nux or any other medicine.

If headache is unbearable,and want some relief,take a tablet of paracetamol.(chrocin).

It won't interfere with the action of the remedy.

Pl.wait patiently.

Remember,whatever I suggest,including taking of chrocin, if required, is supported by theory,and is verified by me personally, to be safe.

I follow Vithoulkus,and he cured more than 20000 cases.
Whatever I say, I can provide reference,though a bit taxing on me,to do so.

All the best.

bandarbabu2000 last decade
Thanks for your response. What do you think is my constitutional remedy... is it Sepia... You would have read my whole "jeevan katha" (life history) on the depression mail...
abcgul last decade
Thanks for your response... I really am confused as of now (after Murthy's and John's mail)... Surprisingly, today the headache is hardly there. It seems to have gone. Last 3-4 days it was there..... Maybe I can wait for a day or two and then see if the headache persists (frankly, any number of these headaches are bearable), but I want to be rid of this depression - seems like it will end only when I go to heaven (maybe hell ;-)) I feel normal with antidepressants, but the moment I try to leave them, this depression comes back....
abcgul last decade
The depression, headache and skin itching are all inter-linked.

That is why we say...treat the whole patient.

The constitutional med is Psorinum.

See Materia Medica for the "drug picture".

Pankaj Varma
PANKAJ VARMA last decade

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