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Somebody is sending e-mails to me too with Sai Baba as heading ...having virus in the attachments. Don't open them.

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Man's duty is to sanctify his days and nights with the unbroken smarana (recollection) of the Name. Recollect with joy and with true yearning. If you do so, God is bound to appear before you in the Form and with the Name you have adored Him. God is all Names and all forms, the blending of all these in harmonious beauty! The Gods worshipped in different faiths, adored by different human communities, are all various manifestations of the one Divine principle that really is. Just as the body is the harmonious blending of the senses and the limbs, God is the harmony of all the forms and names that mankind worships.
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
The reflection of the sun shining in the sky can be seen in the oceans, rivers, lakes and wells. Though the reflections are many, there is only one sun. The Divine is present in man like the unseen thread which holds a garland of gems together. The entire cosmos is permeated by the Divine and is the visible manifestation of the Divine. Nothing in the world, no object, no human being, no creature can be found wherein God is not present. There is only one God and He is present in every human being.
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
What superhuman feats has Sai Baba done?
 
ZepOz last decade
He brings out 'holy ash' from his palms, and gives 'fake' golden rings to selected devotees.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
ZepOz,
There are many websites that tell you about SAI Baba.

A small percentage also talk of negative things about him.

Well...duality is the law of the universe.

Jesus Christ was crucified by people surrounding Him.

Lord Krishna...attempts were made many tiems on His life by his own uncle ...Kansa.

Lord Rama was banished from his own kingdom by his Step mother.

Where good exists...bad also exists. Other wise you would not know the difference between the two.

Pl. see the sites...just go to Google and fill in Sathya Sai Baba.

Best wishes
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Pankaj,

I have seen plenty of information on Sai Baba over the years.

What I was hoping for was that you might actually list some of the superhuman feats he has done that you can certify for us.

Have you actually seen him do any yourself, for example?
 
ZepOz last decade
Yes I have seen.
Will elaborate later.

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
ZepOz,
I am glad you have those questions about SAi BABA.

All those ...who are his devotees today ...started with such questions.

Will try to post some more later.

Best wishes,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
And amongst his devotees are many many learned men and women.

Judges of the Supreme Court, Generals of the Army, CEOs and Chairman's of world wide corporations, leading politicians and royals around the world, leading film and music personalities, sports stars, journalists...the current head of the Noble Foundation etc etc.

On the 81st Birthday of Sai Baba on 23rd Nov. 2006..the Indian President Dr. Abdul Kalam was with SAI BABA at Puttaparthi and inaugurated an Indoor sports complex there along with Sai Baba.

Sai Baba knows the past and future of each individual on this earth and He has demonstrated it to many many many of his devotees.

(Little difficult to understand by some)...but He also knows about the past lives of each and every individual who has taken birth on this earth.

About Himself ...SAi BABA has said that he will dwell in the current human form upto the age of 96 years....and will re-appear after some years as Prema Sai. In previous birth He was Shirdi Sai...who had and currently has a large following.

He has also shown a photograph of Prema -SAi. You can find it on the net too.

He has a universal appeal because He always propogates that God is one and all religions are different facets of the same single God.

(More to follow..in answer to your question).

Best wishes,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
I sincerely believe these BABAS are doing a thriving buisiness on the human weaknesses, present in everybody, however high he may reach.

This is a sort of madness, to worship a living being as God, who has all the shortcomings like any body else.

This Baba has generated mass hysteria and the whole propaganda is as a result of that.

India is a country of more than 100 crore population, and atleast 99.9 crores people care a damn about these Babas.

A minscule portion, who have their own high ambitions in life flock to this fellow for the sake of publicity, and doesn't want to leave no stone unturned.

Who knows, which act may help politically and otherwise?

So, why not visit this BABA once, and see if it helps, is the philosophy with most of the celebrities, and aspiring celebrities.

Don't fall for this guy. He is known to encourage silencing of even his earlier devotees, who tried to expose him. Murders are frequent in the town, where he lives.

He has been exposed many times.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Good post Murthy.

Last time I was in Puttaparthi (in August 2006)....I was sitting next to the head of the Police at Puttaparthi in the dinning hall and started a conversation. He told me that life for him in Puttaparthi was very simple as compared to his previous postings at other places in Andhra Pradesh state ...as in his words 'very much less crime' in Puttaparthi.

However, let me add that Sai Baba is surrounded by ordinary human beings and human beings all over as we see have some failings. Their short comings cannot be lumped to Sai Baba.

Best wishes,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Also dear Murthy,

I have seen many people going to Puttaparthi and surrendering their lofty ambitons at the feet of SAI BABA....in other words ....a complete transformation.

From then on...they make SAi BABA as their complete guide in life.
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
You have your beliefs. I have mine.

The more one tries to promote these BABAS, the more I will expose them.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Dear Murthy,
I have no desire to change any ones belief.

I have been sharing my own experiences.

I know people have different experiences and each one of us is the product of his / her circumstances.

I have seen the 'high and mighty' bow at the feet of SAI BABA....some of them are those who have never bowed down to any one in their lives. Such bending down ...only comes when internal convictions have experienced a major jolt....and the person has realised the presence of 'Almighty'...somewhere in his 'own little universe'.

Another thing Sai Baba teaches is:

No matter how adverse is your adversary....always remember....he is also a creation of the same God who created you !!

This was the essence of a discourse he made in August 2006.

Best wishes and have a good day (we are both posting in the early morning hours).

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Dear Murthy,
I am also aware that it is difficult to change the convictions of others.

At the Landmark Forum Seminar...I was made to realise that 'major uphevals' in the lives of men make them to change their convictions. Also that ...each human being during his life time ....necessarily undergoes some set backs. It is a law/ pattern of nature.

Also...the Bible says 'The Lord breaks you to re-make you !'

There is a Hindi song in which the wordings have a meaning..... 'Dear God ..since I am asking you for a long life...also give me the strength to handle setbacks'.

Best wishes,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Sai Baba teaching:

L.H.S. = R.H.S.

Means:

L > Love

H > Humility

S > Seva or Service to society

EQUAL TO:

Royal Highway to Sai Baba (RHS)

(Nothing wrong with that !).

With best wishes to all,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Your personal beliefs are really not relevant on this forum. Having said that, I join Murthy is absolutely refuting these so-called 'miracles' - haven't they been exposed as trickery sometime? I marvel at the gullibilty of human beings and their desire to make living gods out of ordinary men. Or for their desire to find a person to deify.
If you read ZepOz's post, you might see the unwritten bits -skeptics, after all, think that homeopathy is no more than trickery and guile anyway.
 
ripas last decade
Ignoring your comments...not worth spending my valuable time on.
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
It is better if people stop promoting BABAs here. Majority of us, who visit here,are not interested to hear anything about them, as most of what is said is irrelavant to homeopathy and health, the avowed purpose of the forum.

If each member starts posting about his preferred BABA, this forum will be full of such threads only.

And it is a delusion, if one tends to think that reciting BABA's name, everyday, and reading about him, will make patients here healthy.

It becomes our onerous duty to refute any claims that are made on behalf of this BABA, as the truth is to be known to everybody, and half truths are to be exposed.

It is futile to try to cover up our weaknesses by taking the name of BABA.

Let us try to understand them, and work towards coming out of them.

No BABA can help us, if we keep on deluding ourselves that we know it all, and all others have to learn from us.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Since a forum contains something for everybody, and since we all know the theme of this specific thread.

In anticipation, one should decide and use own consent, if to open, react, act or reply to a specific thread.
 
kuldeep last decade
Yes. We intentionaly open it to prevent spread of misinformation.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
'Since a forum contains something for everybody, and since we all know the theme of this specific thread.
In anticipation, one should decide and use own consent, if to open, react, act or reply to a specific thread.'

A homeopathic forum is not meant to contain 'something for everybody' in the sense you imply. There is enough acrimony on this forum without bringing religion into it.
And Pankaj, please DO save your 'valuable time' to spread the kind of 'love' and 'kindness' you so frequently preach and so often fail to practice. You're making the same mistake as many others by taking otehrs opinions as judgement on yourself. Sorry if I offended you, but maybe you offended me. Wouldn't it then, be better to avoid the contentious issues we CAN avoid here?
 
ripas last decade
FOR a 'what', FOR a 'when', FOR a 'why', FOR a 'who', read the following link :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sathya_Sai_Baba


Consider this :
'If absolute power corrupts absolutely, where does that leave God?'

WHY not believe and trust yourself, your own parents, your own family, your own friends rather than . . .
. . . .

WHY not pray / worship / chant the name of self, own parents, own family .... RATHER THAN .....

One of the most tragic things about human nature is that all of us tend to put off living. We are all dreaming of some magical rose garden over the horizon-instead of enjoying the roses blooming outside our windows today.

Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
 
Nesha-India last decade
Pankaj,

I did ask you to describe some of the superhuman feats that Sai Baba has done that you have witnessed. But all you gave me was some long talk about heaven and earth, and only what Sai Baba has said and claims to do, not what he has actually been seen to have done.

That is not really a valid response to my request at all. So I'm going to suggest to you that Sai Baba is VERY long on mystical talk and VERY short on superhuman feats.

For myself, I am always highly suspicious of people who do that. They always remind me of used motor-cycle salesmen - lots of flim-flam, no substance, and always at the buyer's expense.

However, as pointed out by others, this is probably not the place to discuss this.

good luck!
 
ZepOz last decade
Name one religion or holy person who is above controversy.

Homeopathy too is never above controversy, never proved by a single double blind clinical trials. So it comes to the matter of faith.

Why react!
 
kuldeep last decade

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