Another try to mt chronic throat problem. Help please _{Page 3 of 13}

Even when a wrong remedy is chosen, a SMALL ENOUGH dose of LMs will do much less harm than a high potency dose of the C scale.

With a properly chosen dose, any aggravation from the LMs will not last more than one or two days.

I do not see the danger in using LM potency at all.

I do see the danger from precriptions where unchanged C scale potencies are administered for weeks or months at a stretch on this forum.

Sameer.

Sameer...it sounds as if you are Gavini Murthy in another form !!

Just like Girilal/Kuldeep/Dharam Pal.

Pankaj Varma

Now come on !

Did I say anything to you ?

I was just giving my views on the case.

Why can't you grow up from personal attacks ?

Alas ! 20 years of homeopathic practice and you still can't cure yourself of 'Intolerance of contradiction'

If you can't cure yourself , you can always post your case here.

Gavini and I would work hard to find a remedy for you. :)

Sameer dear ....thanks a ton.

I am beyond repair....

How come you and Gavini come to the net at the same time of the day !! Each day !!

'Intolerance of contradiction'

Last night I posted a reply for this sort of problem...giving three options:

Nux vomica, Aurum Mur, Lyco .

May be here or at Homeopathy and more.

Pankaj Varma

Example of self endorsement !!

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Re: Another try to mt chronic throat problem. Help please From sameervermani on 2007-12-19
Dear Joaquin,

Please follow Murthy's advise.

And when you get a little better, you might want to fill in one of the detailed questionnaires available on the forum, so that we can find your constitutional remedy.

Get well soon.

Sameer.

Dear Sameer

You are relatively new and what you are seeing is just the tip of the ice berg of the ego problems the so called 'resident' prescribers have.

They fail to realise that the more they interact with negative intentions, the more damage they are inflicting themselves to their reputation.

I am glad to have found colleagues like you, who believe in taking a proper case, and give good remedy suggestions folowing the fundamentals of homeopathy.

My sincere advice to you is not to waste your energies with these guys. Of course, one has to defend oneself when unwarranted remarks are made. Don't do anything beyond that.

These guys have an obsession with me, and they tend to pounce on anybody who is even remotly suggestive of supporting me and my way of thinking.

Despite that, don't get dragged into the slanging matches. For good or bad, I have been tangled with it and it has become routine for me. I can handle them.

With best wishes

Murthy

For the sake of record let me clarify that Sameer is a different individual than Murthy.

Murthy

Dear Murthy,
Pl. take some training under Mayawati or Mulayam Singh or Jayalalitha.....you will surely become a Minister in Andhra Pradesh government within two years.

You have great potential to become a successful politician.

Pankaj Varma

Thanks Murthy , for the suggestions !

Hi Joaquin

Never mind these diversions.

LM potencies are gentler, if used properly and can be taken daily, if necessary, to hasten the cure.

Such flexibility is not available with 'C' potencies.

Any way for those uninitiated in homeopathy this is all Greek and Latin.

Just check with your regular suppliers whether they can get you LM potencies.

You might have told earlier, which I might have missed, but tell us again where you are residing presently.

Which country?

Murthy

Hello Joaquín,
Sorry for the diversions. I understand your condition.

Murthy,
Aren't you doing exactly the opposite of what you keep propogating all the time ??

You are doing 'now this now that' homeopathy.

Joaquín,

If your blood pressure is in the high BP range along with sore left throat....then surely it is Lachesis.

Take three does of Lachesis 200c at intervals of half hour ....2moro morning and stop after that.

It will take care of you.

Best wishes
Pankaj Varma

Lachesis is a a remedy predominently aggravated by heat, where as the patient needs warmth, and he suffers in cold weather.

Lachesis is aggravated by warm drinks, particularly in throat problems, where as the patient is ameliorated by warm drinks atleast temporarily.

We can't forget these general tendencies while selecting a remedy.

Murthy

If your blood pressure is in the high BP range along with sore left throat....then surely it is Lachesis.

If your blood pressure is in the high BP range along with sore left throat....then surely it is Lachesis.

If your blood pressure is in the high BP range along with sore left throat....then surely it is Lachesis.

Why do we assume things?

He never talked about high blood pressure.

Even if he has high blood pressure the generals rule out Lachesis.

Murthy

Let the patient speak Murthy.....and you re-read all his posts....you will find something there.

Again your actions are in direct contrast to what you preach.

You are breaching the rules for case taking set by yourself....let the patient speak.

LET THE PATIENT SPEAK !!

Sometimes I make statements to elicit information from a patient....it is a different way of case taking but more effective in certain ways.

Pankaj Varma

You guys didn't bother to ask him about his blood pressure reading !!

Hello Joaquin.

Hmm, a lot of suggestions being thrown around here, so I guess I will add my contribution.

Firstly, as has been stated by numerous others above, never take remedies in combination. The body can only react to one remedy at a time, and the combination you were originally prescribed is odd to say the least, as Hepar Sulph antidotes Mercury, and Mercury and Sulphur antidote eachother. One can only react to a remedy if it is allowed to act undisturbed, and for obvious reasons, this cannot be achieved if one is also applying antidotes at the same time.

I would disagree with the prescription of Merc. as Merc patients are FAR from being timid(!), and are also disturbed from both cold AND heat, whereas your problems seem to centre around cold only.

The fact the combination of remedies you were originally given was at the beginning 'fantastic', suggests to me that ONE of the remedies being taken was actually working as it should be, at least at the time it was taken, and I would consider this to be Sulphur, which was my original choice when reading through your post. Whether or not this is still indicated now, or was just working as an 'intercurrent' though, I could not say without further information. Do you have any idea what potency you were given?

Nitric Acid would also be another remedy to bear in mind, as this has the type of chilliness and aggravation from cold you suffer from, and covers the symptoms of constant throat problems, especially where there are 'stick' or 'splinter-like' sensations therein, with a difficulty in swallowing.

Tell me, before you started being dosed, when would you say is your best time of day, the time you feel most productive?

It also sounds to me like you may be beginning to prove the Merc Sol (which is unsuprisingg given the frequent dosing), so my advice would be to stop ALL remedies for a period of one or two weeks, allow things to settle down, and then represent the case. These things cannot be rushed simply by throwinggg all manner of remedies at it, and in the long run this will only cause you more problems, and make the condition a lot harder to treat. The slower methodical approach always achieves the best cures.

Hmm, my apologies, I am unfamiliar with the layout of this forum, it would seem the case has moved on somewhat, not to mention having descended into yet another battle of ego's !! (why is it impossible for people to get along on this forum?), but my advice still stands.

I would not recommend you use LM's though, as these are the most powerful of all remedies, and should be reserved for use by professionals or experienced Homoeopaths only, as their power to cause harm is obviously as great as their power to cure, when mis-prescribed. Seriously, do not play around with these, they can cause a great deal of suffering in the wrong hands.

Hi Joaquin

Initially you were complaining that you were not getting help.

See now. :-).

Any way it is good for you. There is nothing personal in the answers you gave to the questionarie.

I think it will help the prescribers to discuss among themselves and come to a consensus, if I post it here.

Shall I do so?

Murthy

'My BP increases slightly from 8-12 to 9-13mm Hg when I start the infection process.'

Yes I noticed this in your answers somewhere......that is why I told Murthy to go and RE-READ all the posts.

So what you are saying is BP increases from 80 - 120 and goes up to 90 - 130. (we state it slightly differently in our part of the world).

That is a sufficent indication at your age of 34 years.

I strongly recommend that the homeopathic answer to your problem is Lachesis.
You can try it the way I suggested.

I am giving you a classical homeopathy answer.

The other meds being suggested here are not going to cure you. They might palliate for a very short while only.

For the time being forget about the controversy on LM potency etc. ....leave to the guys who have spent a number of years with homeopathy.

I wud recommend that you get well first.

Pankaj Varma

Hi Dr.Organon

I agree that LMs are to be used cautiously.

I presume that Joaquin will do exactly as told.

If a single poppy sized pill is used to make a 8 OZ. remedy bottle, and a teaspoon of the solution from the RSB is poured into another cup, and if a teaspoonful of it is taken from the cup, and the rest of it is thrown out, and if we wait for two days and observe the response, and if we know how to interprete the response, I don't think LMs are going to be harmful.

Any way, I will agree to the consensus that it may be difficult to get strict compliance of the instructions from the patient, which is a must while using LMs.

O.K. Let us try to collectively identify a suitable medicine to help Joaquin. We will stick to C potencies only.

We can put him on a split dose (5 th organon method.)

Murthy

Hmm... A classical Homoeopathy answer, based upon only one symptom and not taking into account the patients temperament or personality? Interesting.

Also, and for the record, I have spent almost 20 years 'with Homoeopathy', the last 10, almost exclusively using LM's, so I think that probably qualifies me to know something about them...

At the end of the day though, it is at the discretion of the patient to follow the advice they feel is correct, and not for any one Homoeopath to forcefully push their own opinions onto them, in my opinion.