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High Blood Pressure

Dear Drs.
Kind guide me about the medicine of Hypertention having particular symptom of aggravation between 3PM to 6PM after lunch. The blood rushes to the head.


with best regards.

dr. mahfooz
 
  Mahfoozurrehman on 2008-01-01
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
glonine j k mohla
 
akshaymohl last decade
Dear Dr. Mehfooz,
As you already know there are many meds in homeopathy for this purpose that can be prescribed after due case taking and trying to find the constitutional med.

However,most patients come to a homeopath at a late stage...i.e. after having taken lots of allopathic meds.

At that stage, to resort to constitutional correction through homeopathy does not bring the desired results....most times.

I have consulted many practising homeopaths....and seen them prescribe for High BP.

Some of the effective answers are:

1. Mixture of Crataegus Oxyacantha Q and Lycopus Virginicus Q. Specially where heart symptoms are also present and there is frontal headache etc.
The meds are added in equal proportion.

2. Mixture of Crataegus Oxyacantha Q and Rauwolfia Q.
this has also helped many patients.

3. When symptoms match...and only when symptoms match...Lachesis works well.

4.In addition give Kali Phos 6x ....three times a day.

Side by side giving miasmic remedies (depending upon symptoms) such as Sulphur, Psorinum, Thuja, Nitric Acid, Mercurius do help to a useful extent.

Resorting to Ayurveda....Muktavati is a great med...without any known side effects.

I can write more on this topic ...however...in the current situation will suffice with this.

Will interact more later..

Regards,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
I too have heard good reviews about muktavati for controlling B.P.

Glonoine is useful on SOS basis and won't cure the problem.

However it is a very good medicine for emergencies.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Dr. Mehfooz,
Strictly going by aggravation between 4 pm to 8 pm...to my mind the suitable med could be Lycopodium. (Flatulence has to be there as well).

Rush of blood to head is most frequent in High BP.
Yes Glononine is suitable (as suggested by Dr. J.K.Mohla) when there is rush of blood to head and headache from sunrise to sunset. There is also constipation. There has to be throbbing sensation in the body too.
Also the patient forgets known roads etc. while walking and lands up in the wrong direction....due to confusion in the head.


Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Some people have been taking Arnica 6 one dose every day....and have reported normalisation of high BP.

Joe has been always recommending Arnica is split doses. Another person came to ABC Forum about 2 years back and said that he was 75 years of age. Had been taking Arnica 6 one dose every day for 20 years....and his BP remained normal. Prior to that he had huge problems.

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Actually, correction in diet side by side is very necessary.
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
There is a seperate thread started here at ABC Forum by Dr. Deoshlok where he recommends Bach Flower remedies.
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
I really thankful and for the help extended by my colleagues but I would like to discuss as under:

'The agrravation time is 3PM to 6PM and after lunch'

'The patient feels confort in Open Air'

I have been treating him keeping in view his symptoms but the above two symptoms are very guiding symptoms. I could could not find the porper medicine who works particular in the above stated time.

>Lyco does not help I also tried it.
>Golonine some times helps
to some extent but fail to recover.
>Craetagus: helps him in the whole day in split doses but cannot hlep him between 2PM to 6PM
>Rawolfia did not help him

Again thanks all


Mr.Murthy or any other friend:

Could you please give me any guidline or any reference (Book or site)regarding AGGRAVATION/AMOLIERATION timing of medicine:

Dr. mahfooz
 
Mahfoozurrehman last decade
Hi Dr.Mahfooz

I will repertorise this case with the available information and come back to you in the evening.

I will also try to locate a book with the information you want.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
thanks a lot mr. murthy.
 
Mahfoozurrehman last decade
aggravation



afternoon -- æsc., alum., am. m., ars., bell., cenchris, cocc., coccus, fagop., kali bich., kali c., kali cy., kali n., lil. t., lob. infl., rhus t., sep., sil., still., thuya, verbasc., xerophyl., x-ray.

late (see evening.) -- apis, aran., carbo v., colch., col., helleb., lyc., mag. p., med., meli., ol. an., puls., sabad., zinc.
 
mazharmhm last decade
dear dr. mazhar,

thank you for giving useful information. Could you please suggest any remedy out of these for above noted symptoms.


dr.mahfooz
 
Mahfoozurrehman last decade
Dear Mahfooz

I would like to know some more details.

What happens if he skips lunch? Does the BP remain stable?

Does the observation of 3P.M. to 6P.M. agg mean he is alright during the rest of the time?

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
time of aggravation of homeopathic remedies:

ars ----- 1-2 a. m. and 1-2 p. m.

kali carb ----- 2-4 a. m.calc. ----- 3 a. m.

sulphur ----- 3-5 a. m.

nux vom. ----- 4-5 a. m.

arn., hep., nux vom. ----- 6 a. m.

bov., bry., eupat., pod. ----- 7 a. m.

eupat., pod. ----- 7-9 a. m. (fever)

nat. mur., stann. ----- 9-10-11 a. m.

chin. s., nat. mur. ----- 10-11 a. m.

cactus, bapt., nat. mur., nux, sulph. ----- 11 a. m.

sulph. : weak faint 11 a. m.

lach. ----- 12 noon regularly.

angust., ant-t., apis.ced. ----- 3 p. m.

bell. ----- 3-4 p. m.

ced. : migraine every other day 11 a. m. ; epilepsy starts with slow convulsions with menses ; abortion occurs at same period each time..

aranea : toothache, neuralgia, fever and chill ----- at same hour.

apis, lyc., puls. ----- 4 p. m.

kali carb., puls., rhus, thuja. ----- 5 p. m.

hep., rhus., sil. ----- 6 p. m.

lyc., rhus. ----- 7 p. m.

am-m., lac-vac-defl., sulph. ----- every 7 days.

ars., carb-v., lach., psor., rhus rad., sulph., tub. ----- return same day, week, month, year.

rhus rad. ----- yearly recurrence at same hour of day.
 
sthillaiyah last decade
Without full case history....won't reach anywhere.

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
mr. murthy:
Reply to your questions

What happens if he skips lunch? Does the BP remain stable?

some betterment but not fully relief

Does the observation of 3P.M. to 6P.M. agg mean he is alright during the rest of the time?

Yes

I may note here that the paitent is otherwise healthy, nonsmoker, nonalcholic,

Dr.Pankaj Varma

Pleas give your questionnaire for case history.


dr. mahfooz
 
Mahfoozurrehman last decade
O.K.

If there are no characteristic symptoms except these modalities , it is difficult to zero in on a medicine.

I tried to see if there is any specific book regarding these time modalities but failed to get any.

The list by Sthillaiyah perhaps can be expanded by others by refering to various repertories.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
dear Sthillaiyah,

Thank you very much for providing the information. Out of these I have also tried Bell which you indicated in your referred medicine but it does not give permanent relief only timely.

Mr. Murthy,
You promised to reporatised it keeping in view the available symptoms but the result is still awaited.


dr. mahfooz
 
Mahfoozurrehman last decade
Dr Mahfooz,

I will also repertorize this and get back to you.

Sameer.
 
sameervermani last decade
Dear Dr. Mahfooz,
Pl. give me more details of the patient...age, sex, kind of work he / she doing...other illnesses he / she has been through from child hood till now.

Does he /she have children. Any medical complications in them ???

If the patient is a lady...details of menses cycle problems etc.

Diseases his / her parents have been through etc.

Will come back.
best wishes
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
I repertorized it as

Rush of blood , upwards

Hypertension

Afternoon aggravation

Open air amelioration


The medicines that come up based on these symptoms alone are

Sang. (5) , Acon. (5) , Stront-C (5), Glon. (5), Phos. (5)

(ps:- Stront-C and Glon. are 2 pt. remedies for hypertension, sang. acon. and phos. are 1 pt)

You can compare the above based on patient's other symptoms.
 
sameervermani last decade
Dear friends,

Allast I feel to endorsed the full details of the patient for proper reprotisation. Kindly give me you guidance/opinion/recommendations.

---quote---
Sex:male
Age: 48 years
Nature of work: Computer/typing works (office jobs)
Describe your main suffering and from how long?
Hypertension since 10/12 years
Exact location?
Blood rushes to head, ears
Any cause which you feel for this ailment?
No major disease in past
What other physical sufferings do you have in your body?
No
What mental sufferings / feelings do you have associated with your physical sufferings?
Blood rushes to head, ears
When did it all start?
10/12 years
What are the things which aggravate or ameliorate your suffering?
Heat, room, anger, excitement, anxiety, sleepliness aggravates
Open air, relaxed, cold drinks Ameliorates
When do you feel better, during hot weather or cold weather, humid or dry weather? Cold but moderate weather
What do you crave for in food items and what are your aversions? Like Meat, and every thing in vegetables
Too much salt, spices and rich diet aggrv.
How is your thirst: Less, Normal or Excessive?
Some time excessive some times normal but I use about 10-12 glass of water in routine,
How if your hunger: Less, Normal or Excessive? Normal
How is your bowel movement and stool type (Constipation etc.)?
if stomach is not disturbed it is normal
How sleep, how are your dreams? If I am relaxed I sleep good. Good dreams
Do you have any strange, peculiar or unusual symptom or feelings?
Agrravtion at 3PM to 6PM after lunch
What medicines have been taken earlier?
Bryt.Mur, Nat.Mur, Glonine, Bell, Bryt.Carb. Vescum Alb, Craetagus
How do you look like (Appearance (fat, thin, smart, tall, lean etc)?
I am smart, fair colour, good physique, height 5’-6”
Family history - What major diseases are running in your family?
My father was a patient of hypertension at last he was paralyzed due to this disease
Any other information?
I have no other disease except this hypertension without knowing the reason. I am a discipline man non alcoholic,nonsmoker,.

----unquote---

dr. mahfooz
 
Mahfoozurrehman last decade
Dear Mahfooz

I tried to repertise with available symptoms, but am not satisfied with the results I got. That is why I wanted more details.

Was there any record of the readings over a period of 24 hours atleast?

How did he know that the aggravation is only during the period he mentions?

What is meant by blood rushing to head and ears? What are the exact symptoms he is feeling?

Does he feel dizziness, heaviness? What is the sensation?

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
dear murthy, please see the above statement also reply to your question
1. yes 140/100 at 3PM rest of the time 130/80 or 130/85

2. Yes

3. Head become hot and ears red.
4. Yest some time dizzyness and sensation head is going to brust.


dr. mahfooz
 
Mahfoozurrehman last decade
Bursting sensation: Phos(3), Sang.(1), Stront-C(1), Glon(3).

Adding this to previous 4 symptoms I repertorized on, Phos. and Glon. get a score of 8.

Stront-C and Sang. get 6.

Sameer.
 
sameervermani last decade

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