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sorry, that didn't seem to work. i don't know why, and i can't edit it either.
i will summate. the top remedies were (in order):
ars
lyc
lach
nux v
sulph
puls
phos
sep
nat-m
bell
aur
calc
i have a few thoughts. one is, again, i am not too confident i used the Remedy Finder well and i may do it again. sometimes the symptoms are difficult to understand.
however, i find it very curious that ars was picked as the top remedy. as you know i have had this mental derangement for many years. in 2002 i got a heavy metals test. i was told to suspect mercury poisoning, and indeed i had unsafe levels of mercury (and nickel and other metals), but the largest quantity was of *arsenic*! so i was surprised to see arsenic listed as the #1 remedy.
also i see aur listed. even though it is #9 i don't think that is representative of aur's importance. for one thing the percentages are all pretty close (ars is 35% and aur is 31%) and the grid i have assumes all symptoms are equal. they most certainly are not. i entered a lot of symptoms in the Remedy Finder that, when i look at the results screen, i think to myself, 'why did i enter that?' :) so i have a hunch the aur is still a strong remedy for me (i have looked at the symptoms list several times).
to give you an idea of how close the percentages are, here they are in order: 35% 31% 32% 31% 30% 30% 32% 30% 29% 29% 31% 27%. again i think the grid needs to be weighted and i should remove a certain percentage of the symptoms i entered, as they no longer seem accurate.
i was surprised to see nux v in there as i read it and while there are a few symptom matches the overall character does not seem to fit me at all.
sulph... there are definitely some matches, but some definite mismatches also. also, a lady who was a homeopath prescribed me sulph a few years ago when she heard that i had a mental derangement and was told of the head injury at 13. i actually have sulph here in the house from a few years ago. 200c, 1m, 10m, cm... i have taken them *all* (i started at 200c and went up every few weeks i think it was)... it didn't seem to really do much to me. of course my mental state was much worse then, so it's possible it contributed in a way that wasn't obvious to me.
- will
i will try the remedy grid once more but i won't be surprised if it doesn't work...
i will summate. the top remedies were (in order):
ars
lyc
lach
nux v
sulph
puls
phos
sep
nat-m
bell
aur
calc
i have a few thoughts. one is, again, i am not too confident i used the Remedy Finder well and i may do it again. sometimes the symptoms are difficult to understand.
however, i find it very curious that ars was picked as the top remedy. as you know i have had this mental derangement for many years. in 2002 i got a heavy metals test. i was told to suspect mercury poisoning, and indeed i had unsafe levels of mercury (and nickel and other metals), but the largest quantity was of *arsenic*! so i was surprised to see arsenic listed as the #1 remedy.
also i see aur listed. even though it is #9 i don't think that is representative of aur's importance. for one thing the percentages are all pretty close (ars is 35% and aur is 31%) and the grid i have assumes all symptoms are equal. they most certainly are not. i entered a lot of symptoms in the Remedy Finder that, when i look at the results screen, i think to myself, 'why did i enter that?' :) so i have a hunch the aur is still a strong remedy for me (i have looked at the symptoms list several times).
to give you an idea of how close the percentages are, here they are in order: 35% 31% 32% 31% 30% 30% 32% 30% 29% 29% 31% 27%. again i think the grid needs to be weighted and i should remove a certain percentage of the symptoms i entered, as they no longer seem accurate.
i was surprised to see nux v in there as i read it and while there are a few symptom matches the overall character does not seem to fit me at all.
sulph... there are definitely some matches, but some definite mismatches also. also, a lady who was a homeopath prescribed me sulph a few years ago when she heard that i had a mental derangement and was told of the head injury at 13. i actually have sulph here in the house from a few years ago. 200c, 1m, 10m, cm... i have taken them *all* (i started at 200c and went up every few weeks i think it was)... it didn't seem to really do much to me. of course my mental state was much worse then, so it's possible it contributed in a way that wasn't obvious to me.
- will
i will try the remedy grid once more but i won't be surprised if it doesn't work...
Crimsoncloak last decade
Sameer wrote:
>I would recommend reading remedy profiles of remedies and not just using Remedy Finders or repertories.
I am working on it. :)
>I hope you did read the stuff I wrote above.
I am working on that too. :) I know I am getting behind here and I apologize. I am excited to try Baryta and Aur. I checked the box today and the shipment hasn't come yet. As you know I have already read through Baryta and the symptom picture look especially strong on the most important points, i.e. the lack of confidence, etc.
One thing I am running into is that when I google a medicine (not just Baryta) it is like everyone has a different interpretation for these medicines.
I can't remember if I told you, but I found two other symptoms that I have that you did not even know about that I have read would be treated with Baryta, so that is very encouraging. I will just have to take it and report back.
Thank you, Sameer!
>I would recommend reading remedy profiles of remedies and not just using Remedy Finders or repertories.
I am working on it. :)
>I hope you did read the stuff I wrote above.
I am working on that too. :) I know I am getting behind here and I apologize. I am excited to try Baryta and Aur. I checked the box today and the shipment hasn't come yet. As you know I have already read through Baryta and the symptom picture look especially strong on the most important points, i.e. the lack of confidence, etc.
One thing I am running into is that when I google a medicine (not just Baryta) it is like everyone has a different interpretation for these medicines.
I can't remember if I told you, but I found two other symptoms that I have that you did not even know about that I have read would be treated with Baryta, so that is very encouraging. I will just have to take it and report back.
Thank you, Sameer!
Crimsoncloak last decade
This is from Constantine Hering's condensed materia medica about Baryta Carb.
► Memory deficient
► * Forget ; in the middle of speech the most familiar words fail him.
► Great mental and bodily weakness, childishness ; old people.
► Child does not want to play, but sits in the corner doing nothing.
► Sadness, dejection of spirits, grief over trifles.
►* Dread of men, of strangers ; imagines she is being laughed at or criticised, hence so fearful she will not look up.
► Solicitude ; about his future ;* about domestic affairs.
►* Irresolute, constantly changing his mind.
► Loss of self-confidence ; desponding ; pusillanimous.
►* sudden ebullitions of anger, but coupled with cowardice.
► Thinking of one's complaints makes them worse.
► Thinks his legs are cut off and he is walking on his knees.
Just for your information. Especially look at the delusion
►* Dread of men, of strangers ; imagines she is being laughed at or criticised, hence so fearful she will not look up.
Good luck
Sameer
► Memory deficient
► * Forget ; in the middle of speech the most familiar words fail him.
► Great mental and bodily weakness, childishness ; old people.
► Child does not want to play, but sits in the corner doing nothing.
► Sadness, dejection of spirits, grief over trifles.
►* Dread of men, of strangers ; imagines she is being laughed at or criticised, hence so fearful she will not look up.
► Solicitude ; about his future ;* about domestic affairs.
►* Irresolute, constantly changing his mind.
► Loss of self-confidence ; desponding ; pusillanimous.
►* sudden ebullitions of anger, but coupled with cowardice.
► Thinking of one's complaints makes them worse.
► Thinks his legs are cut off and he is walking on his knees.
Just for your information. Especially look at the delusion
►* Dread of men, of strangers ; imagines she is being laughed at or criticised, hence so fearful she will not look up.
Good luck
Sameer
sameervermani last decade
For your remedy to be Aur. you have to be in a state of Self-condemnation, continual self-reproach, self-criticism and a loathing of life. They are not bashful patients at all.
sameervermani last decade
Sameer,
>For your remedy to be Aur. you have to be in a state of Self-condemnation, continual self-reproach, self-criticism and a loathing of life. They are not bashful patients at all.
Well that is where I get confused because part of this is self-judgment and it's probably easier for an observer to give these answers. But to answer your comment I have episodes of the above negative state you described, and it really can be that severe. But it is not there all the time, no. The intensely negative states come and go. But how I deal with other people is much more constant. I am always very sesnsitive to what they think and find it difficult to, say, get on the phone and ask for something of a stranger (it's easier to deal with a relative). Looking at a stranger in the car next to me when I'm at a traffic light, like I pointed out before, that's a classic example. And that's constant.
The heavy metals test I have (I actually have more than one) shows I am positive for mercury (and other metals). I wonder if Aur wouldn't be a good remedy to take at some point to fight the effects of mercury. What do you think about this?
The main reason I'm interested in the point about mercury is because in homeopathy, from what I am reading, it is apparently the main cause of instability. Could this be the root of instability in my mind? I have had so many symptoms and they change so easily all the time, I have to seriously wonder if I don't have to address this as a mercury condition.
Also, one symptom I am not seeing that is probably one of most important is, 'range of emotion.' I don't have a good term for it.
Also important: I cannot feel things that are either too good or too bad, without making a huge mental effort. Something in my brain seems to lurch away from strong emotions (except bad emotional states come up periodically for no reason). So it is really hard to get anything done when you know you should be motivated to go do important things, but that is a strong emotion and for some reason I cannot feel it. Even though I know I should be able to feel strong emotions like motivation, excitement, etc.
No wonder I am stuck in my mind! Aggghhh!
Thanks for reading. :) You still have given me plenty of reading to do.
- Will
>For your remedy to be Aur. you have to be in a state of Self-condemnation, continual self-reproach, self-criticism and a loathing of life. They are not bashful patients at all.
Well that is where I get confused because part of this is self-judgment and it's probably easier for an observer to give these answers. But to answer your comment I have episodes of the above negative state you described, and it really can be that severe. But it is not there all the time, no. The intensely negative states come and go. But how I deal with other people is much more constant. I am always very sesnsitive to what they think and find it difficult to, say, get on the phone and ask for something of a stranger (it's easier to deal with a relative). Looking at a stranger in the car next to me when I'm at a traffic light, like I pointed out before, that's a classic example. And that's constant.
The heavy metals test I have (I actually have more than one) shows I am positive for mercury (and other metals). I wonder if Aur wouldn't be a good remedy to take at some point to fight the effects of mercury. What do you think about this?
The main reason I'm interested in the point about mercury is because in homeopathy, from what I am reading, it is apparently the main cause of instability. Could this be the root of instability in my mind? I have had so many symptoms and they change so easily all the time, I have to seriously wonder if I don't have to address this as a mercury condition.
Also, one symptom I am not seeing that is probably one of most important is, 'range of emotion.' I don't have a good term for it.
Also important: I cannot feel things that are either too good or too bad, without making a huge mental effort. Something in my brain seems to lurch away from strong emotions (except bad emotional states come up periodically for no reason). So it is really hard to get anything done when you know you should be motivated to go do important things, but that is a strong emotion and for some reason I cannot feel it. Even though I know I should be able to feel strong emotions like motivation, excitement, etc.
No wonder I am stuck in my mind! Aggghhh!
Thanks for reading. :) You still have given me plenty of reading to do.
- Will
Crimsoncloak last decade
Dear Will,
Let me clarify a few things to you.
1)First of all delusions like the one below are NOT found in Aur.
►* Dread of men, of strangers ; imagines she is being laughed at or criticised, hence so fearful she will not look up.
Such type of delusions are given the highest importance in finding a remedy.
2) Aur. people are generally serious,sucessfull intimidating patients
3) Aur. has continual self-reproach and a state of loathing towards life, he loves thinking about suicide , he is facinated with death
4)To a lay person (e.g. you) reading the materia medica, it might seem that Aur. also has some traits of your personality but it is not just one or two symptoms here and there it is the personality type (which is the sum total of all the commonly found symptoms) which should match. I am not saying Bar-C is 100 % the correct medicine, since I have not met you, but I am saying that there is a very high chance it is. Also, I am saying there is not even 0.001 % chance that Aur. or Nux. is indicated here. Their personalities are very much intimidating personalities. The negativity of Aur. is much more pronounced , and they are obsessed with death and negativity, absolutely NOTHING PLEASES them except maybe music.
I very much understand the thing you are talking about.
Regarding the heavy metals test, it does not matter to a homeopath because these are just material manifestations of the disease and not the disease itself. This is not even a pathology and is of no use from a homeopathic viewpoint.
Sameer
Let me clarify a few things to you.
1)First of all delusions like the one below are NOT found in Aur.
►* Dread of men, of strangers ; imagines she is being laughed at or criticised, hence so fearful she will not look up.
Such type of delusions are given the highest importance in finding a remedy.
2) Aur. people are generally serious,sucessfull intimidating patients
3) Aur. has continual self-reproach and a state of loathing towards life, he loves thinking about suicide , he is facinated with death
4)To a lay person (e.g. you) reading the materia medica, it might seem that Aur. also has some traits of your personality but it is not just one or two symptoms here and there it is the personality type (which is the sum total of all the commonly found symptoms) which should match. I am not saying Bar-C is 100 % the correct medicine, since I have not met you, but I am saying that there is a very high chance it is. Also, I am saying there is not even 0.001 % chance that Aur. or Nux. is indicated here. Their personalities are very much intimidating personalities. The negativity of Aur. is much more pronounced , and they are obsessed with death and negativity, absolutely NOTHING PLEASES them except maybe music.
I very much understand the thing you are talking about.
Regarding the heavy metals test, it does not matter to a homeopath because these are just material manifestations of the disease and not the disease itself. This is not even a pathology and is of no use from a homeopathic viewpoint.
Sameer
sameervermani last decade
Hello Will,
After seeing the selection of the symptoms by you, I would suggest the following:
1. Nux Vomica 200
One dose each on two consective nights 1/2 hour before retiring
(and atleast 1/2 hour after dinner)
2.Third day morning :
A dose of Lycopodium 1M (if you can't get 1M potency...then Lyco 200)
After one week you can let me have feed back.
Pl. note : you have a weak liver...(tired, lethargic).
Both these meds are great for the liver.
Again, Lyco is meant for people who dislike criticism and at the same time have low self-confidence and weak sexual power. (Also easily tired and are lethargic).
(You have ticked all those symptoms).
Pre-cautions:
No coffee, no alcohol, no garlic, no perfumes, low spice food, avoid chinese dishes as they contain ajino-moto which hurts the liver.
I would like to know about your head injury ..about which you talked some-where.
Pankaj Varma
After seeing the selection of the symptoms by you, I would suggest the following:
1. Nux Vomica 200
One dose each on two consective nights 1/2 hour before retiring
(and atleast 1/2 hour after dinner)
2.Third day morning :
A dose of Lycopodium 1M (if you can't get 1M potency...then Lyco 200)
After one week you can let me have feed back.
Pl. note : you have a weak liver...(tired, lethargic).
Both these meds are great for the liver.
Again, Lyco is meant for people who dislike criticism and at the same time have low self-confidence and weak sexual power. (Also easily tired and are lethargic).
(You have ticked all those symptoms).
Pre-cautions:
No coffee, no alcohol, no garlic, no perfumes, low spice food, avoid chinese dishes as they contain ajino-moto which hurts the liver.
I would like to know about your head injury ..about which you talked some-where.
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
If you never had enlarged tonsils any time in your life...unlikely that Baryta Carb is suitable for you.
Pankaj Varma
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Looking into his history will help to find one..
Two main symptoms (both have gone on for many years):
how, when did this symptom developed,most people hardly forget the ingrained fears or events of their past lives.
Two main symptoms (both have gone on for many years):
how, when did this symptom developed,most people hardly forget the ingrained fears or events of their past lives.
hisam last decade
Enlarged Tonsils are not a requirement for Baryta carb.
Not all symptoms of a remedy proving are found in a person.
Lycopodium might be worth consideration. However, where is your justification for the choice of Aurum or Nux Vomica? I am still waiting for your enlightening comments. Can you even justify those remotely ?
Sameer.
Not all symptoms of a remedy proving are found in a person.
Lycopodium might be worth consideration. However, where is your justification for the choice of Aurum or Nux Vomica? I am still waiting for your enlightening comments. Can you even justify those remotely ?
Sameer.
sameervermani last decade
Sameer,
The moderator will not like that taunt !!
I can only say...you still have to learn a lot in homeopathy.
A good homeopath starts a long term treatment with Nux Vomica.
Go find out why...that is for your impertinence.
To learn...you have to have an attitude of humility....which is miserably lacking.
Pankaj Varma
The moderator will not like that taunt !!
I can only say...you still have to learn a lot in homeopathy.
A good homeopath starts a long term treatment with Nux Vomica.
Go find out why...that is for your impertinence.
To learn...you have to have an attitude of humility....which is miserably lacking.
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
From Nash.
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The fact is that it will benefit those cases in which the use of such drugs, aromatics, pills, etc. has brought about a condition that simulates the symptoms produced in the provings of Nux vomica, or in cases to which it is homoeopathic and no others. Another fact is that things often do produce such a condition, and that is one reason why so many physicians are invariably prescribing Nux vomica the first thing, in cases coming from allopathic hands, without even examining the case, but it is unscientific. We have a law of cure and there are cases in which the Nux vomica condition is not present but another more similar remedy must be given. It does not alter the case to say, 'Well, I did not know what had been given,' for Nux vomica will neither antidote the effects of the drug poison nor cure the disease condition unless it is homoeopathically indicated, especially given in the dynamic form.
******
Very aptly said.
Murthy
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The fact is that it will benefit those cases in which the use of such drugs, aromatics, pills, etc. has brought about a condition that simulates the symptoms produced in the provings of Nux vomica, or in cases to which it is homoeopathic and no others. Another fact is that things often do produce such a condition, and that is one reason why so many physicians are invariably prescribing Nux vomica the first thing, in cases coming from allopathic hands, without even examining the case, but it is unscientific. We have a law of cure and there are cases in which the Nux vomica condition is not present but another more similar remedy must be given. It does not alter the case to say, 'Well, I did not know what had been given,' for Nux vomica will neither antidote the effects of the drug poison nor cure the disease condition unless it is homoeopathically indicated, especially given in the dynamic form.
******
Very aptly said.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Incorrect. The present day homeopath thinks differently dear Murthy.
That is why I asked Sameer if he had been any where near a College of Homeopathy.
Pankaj Varma
That is why I asked Sameer if he had been any where near a College of Homeopathy.
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Furthermore, Nux Vomica is showing up in the Remedy Grid....whereas Baryta Carb is not showing up anywhere in the Remedy Grid.
Murthy...you like to twist arguments to suit the side you are on.
How come you had no comment about that ?????????
Pankaj Varma
Murthy...you like to twist arguments to suit the side you are on.
How come you had no comment about that ?????????
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Hello Will,
Don't even try Baryta Carb. ....it will cause suppression of important symptoms and the case will get more complicated.
Murthy and Sameer have been advocating that for a long time ...not to take the wrong med....else it will cause suppression.
Pankaj Varma
Don't even try Baryta Carb. ....it will cause suppression of important symptoms and the case will get more complicated.
Murthy and Sameer have been advocating that for a long time ...not to take the wrong med....else it will cause suppression.
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Mr. Varma,
Remedy grids :D , why would we need a remedy grid, I do not understand. I have tried running the Remedy Finder at times, and it comes up with the most bizarre suggestions because it cannot be subjective to match the personality type. Maybe it can work for acutes but no way for chronics.
As I said, Lycopodium is worth consideration.
And, I have again and again shown why Bar-C is indicated, using Kent's repertory, as well as Constantine Hering's materia medica. You still need more justifications ? I have repeatedly asked why you think Nux or Aur are indicated. I am yet to hear a SINGLE reason.
You are just arguing but not giving logical reasons for your prescriptions which me and Murthy can.
And, Simon, is there a reason I do not get to see Mr. Varma's posts ?
If he can see mine , then I need to see his.
Sameer
Remedy grids :D , why would we need a remedy grid, I do not understand. I have tried running the Remedy Finder at times, and it comes up with the most bizarre suggestions because it cannot be subjective to match the personality type. Maybe it can work for acutes but no way for chronics.
As I said, Lycopodium is worth consideration.
And, I have again and again shown why Bar-C is indicated, using Kent's repertory, as well as Constantine Hering's materia medica. You still need more justifications ? I have repeatedly asked why you think Nux or Aur are indicated. I am yet to hear a SINGLE reason.
You are just arguing but not giving logical reasons for your prescriptions which me and Murthy can.
And, Simon, is there a reason I do not get to see Mr. Varma's posts ?
If he can see mine , then I need to see his.
Sameer
sameervermani last decade
I think Nash's English is simple to understand.
He is telling that many practitioners of his time too start with Nux.vomica, which is being followed even today.
He is also telling that that is not the correct approach.
Murthy
He is telling that many practitioners of his time too start with Nux.vomica, which is being followed even today.
He is also telling that that is not the correct approach.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Yes, Murthy, it is simple to understand .
I wonder if the 'modern' homeopaths don't trust Nash, Hering or Kent ...amazing :)
I wonder if the 'modern' homeopaths don't trust Nash, Hering or Kent ...amazing :)
sameervermani last decade
Nux Vomica showing up on the Remedy Grid...weak argument Murthy.
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
I sound like Murthy, then I sound like Mr Organon :)... then I would sound like....oh well..Every prescriber who prescribes on the basis of Hahnemannian principles sounds similar
And Mr. Akash, I have my own doubts about your identity, and infact I am pretty sure who you are :)
And Mr. Akash, I have my own doubts about your identity, and infact I am pretty sure who you are :)
sameervermani last decade
Any software has limitations.
'Rubbish in rubish out' aptly applies to Remedy finder too.
You need lot of insight into the philosophy of homeopathy to know which symtoms are to be given priority out of so many available.
Murthy
'Rubbish in rubish out' aptly applies to Remedy finder too.
You need lot of insight into the philosophy of homeopathy to know which symtoms are to be given priority out of so many available.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Most modern homeopaths using softwares...
...but logic ....not every ones strong point.
Dr Deoshlok is right, he is right, very right....
...when he says:
Be careful From deoshlok on 2008-03-27
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Before going to take medicine pls check the authentic In most cases, advice posted at abchomeopathic.com is not given by a medical expert. Lot of person comes here to enjoy and disturb to others.
Dr. deoshlok Sharma
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Pankaj Varma
...but logic ....not every ones strong point.
Dr Deoshlok is right, he is right, very right....
...when he says:
Be careful From deoshlok on 2008-03-27
3 replies 85 views
Before going to take medicine pls check the authentic In most cases, advice posted at abchomeopathic.com is not given by a medical expert. Lot of person comes here to enjoy and disturb to others.
Dr. deoshlok Sharma
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Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
'Naach na jaane, angan tehra !!'
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He who does not know how to dance.....will blame the dance floor !!
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He who does not know how to dance.....will blame the dance floor !!
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Homeopath...unable to handle the case well...will rubbish the software...instead of introspecting on his own mistakes in analysing the case.
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Softwares are no doubt helpful to the extant that they take the drudgery out of reperterisation.
However the inputs are to be given carefully to get a reliable result.
However passionately one may argue, there is no way to refute the fact that
RUBBISH IN IS RUBBISH OUT.
Murthy
However the inputs are to be given carefully to get a reliable result.
However passionately one may argue, there is no way to refute the fact that
RUBBISH IN IS RUBBISH OUT.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
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