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Case of Lycopodium or Thuja...? Plz Help me find a permanent solution to my mental condition...!

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  anonymous_coward on 2010-11-22
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anonymous_coward last decade
The problem with reading about remedies is that you structure your whole description around what we know about them. Which means the truth of your case has been lost. Rather than trying to convince us that you are Lycopodium (there are no marked Thuja symptoms) you should be speaking in your own words, tell us about your symptoms.

Go back, from the top, remove all the symptoms that you have copied from our materia medica, and rewrite them in your own words. Describe exactly your own experience - forget all about the remedies and speak from your own life.

If you are not Lycopodium, but you write all the symptoms out from our description of Lycopodium, how will we tell what remedy you really are?
brisbanehomoeopath last decade

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anonymous_coward last decade

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anonymous_coward last decade
I am waiting for a reply....plz reply....
anonymous_coward last decade
I will look over what you have written and provide some more questions.

However, you are STILL writing out Lycopodium or Thuja symptoms. This is not helpful and is only going to make it more difficult to find the right remedy for you. Try to forget what you think you know about remedies.

A patient is easiest to diagnose when they are completely ignorant of our homoeopathic materia medica.
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
I believe I recognize the remedy here, but to be sure could you expand on the following statements you have made?

Weird and impossible outcomes

Act normal but it backfires

Pretend to be something I am not

From a different dimension or time

Irrational fears

Please also describe the following for me:

Feeling you have in a crowd?

Where do you have the fear of falling?

Feeling you have before an examination or performance?
brisbanehomoeopath last decade

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anonymous_coward last decade
Ok most of what you have said there confirms Arg-nit as the likely remedy.

The feeling of a building about to fall on you is a specific single symptom peculiar for this remedy. Hopefully that is not another symptom you have read in our books and repeated here :)

Take one dose of Arg-nit 1M if you can get it.
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Alright. But the thing is that I have taken two doses of Lycopodium 200c at a gap of one week. One dose on every Friday for the last two weeks. I am feeling better but I seem to be relapsing. i was thinking of taking third dose of Lycopodium 200c tomorrow or should I take Arg.Nit as you prescribed?
anonymous_coward last decade
I agree that Arg-n could be the right remedy here, and that there aren't any symptoms of Thuja. But I wouldn't reject lycopodium completely. Even the physical constitution of tall and thin, and the bullied by stronger people, bulling of weaker people, etc. Are relevant. There is reclusion with a desire for relationships.

You need to use a single dose of the medicine and wait for some time. One dose of 30c might be given 1week before assessing.
Homeopathy International 1 last decade
No other remedy is known to have the feeling of a building about to fall on them - this is so peculiar that I could not ignore it. My advice would be to stop the Lycopodium and move to Arg-nit as soon as possible.
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Ok. Great. I would do that. But what about the potency? Should I start with 30c or directly take 1M single dose?
anonymous_coward last decade
A 1M is the same as a 1000c, so you can see that there is a huge difference.

I'd start with arg-n 30c, one pellet dissolved in 10oz of water, and drink one tablespoon.
Homeopathy International 1 last decade
I don't want to sound annoying but is there some difference between directly taking 4-5 pellets of Arg.Nitr. 30C under the tongue and dissolving(Single pellet or 4-5 pellets?) in 10oz of water and sipping a tsp from it...? I'm confused over these methods as I was taking Lyc. 200C 4-5 pellets under my tongue.
Thanks again.
anonymous_coward last decade
Dry dose is not as effective as the wet dose (dissolved in water). The medicines stop working if you keep using the dry doses, often after the first dose. So yes, there is a huge difference.

We have very clear guidelines in our Organon of Medicine about how medicines work best. Always dissolve the pellets in water.

It is better to have a small bottle with a lid (or a dropper if you can) to make your remedy, so that you can also hit the bottle against the palm of the hand (twice) before putting a single drop into 1/2 a cup of water, stirring and taking a teaspoon out of that.

All medicines should be diluted and succussed (hit against something elastic) before being taken. Dilution reduces aggravation, Succussion increases the power of the medicine.

You are free to take whatever potency you wish. 1M is what I would give one of my own patients if they expressed to me a clear, unique, peculiar delusion of a remedy. However, nobody knows what potency you need, until you try one and see the result.
brisbanehomoeopath last decade

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anonymous_coward last decade
And one more thing was that I had taken an alcoholic drink some 24 hrs before I took the dosage. Hope, it didn't have to do anything with my current state, or did it?
Thanks a lot again.
anonymous_coward last decade
So are you feeling worse in your confidence?

This could be an aggravation and would be a positive sign.

Do NOT take another dose so quickly. You will only make things worse without any benefit in doing son.

In my experience, treatment of chronic cases run approximately in this sort of time frame:-

Aggravation will happen anytime with the first 5 days.

Aggravation will usually peak in intensity at about 3-5 days.

Improvement can be noticed more clearly at about 6-8 days.

I usually do not make any decisions about a remedy's right or wrongness until the second week after the dose.
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Homoeopathic treatment takes time, often for mental health issues it may be weeks before the full effect of a single dose will be seen. Try not to be too impatient - haste ruins good work in homoeopathy.
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
I must say that I am of a completely opposite position.

An aggravation is an indication that the patient used too much of the medicine, or that the medicine was the wrong one.

It's possible that you used to much. I usually use only one pellet of the medicine dissolved in water,generally (4-15 Oz), and then give 1-4 tablespoons.

I think you used way too much, if this medicine is even correct.

An aggravation is different from the return of an old symptom, as that is a very good sign.

Remember that one of Hahnemann's warnings to homeopaths was against giving too much of a remedy!
Homeopathy International 1 last decade
I often find that those with mental or psychological issues notice some improvement immediately after the remedy, or within a short while afterward.
Homeopathy International 1 last decade
Yes I would agree, too much was used. I would never give such a large dose to a patient.

Aggravation, while not desired, is not usually a sign of an incorrect remedy. As per Aph.156-161 Hahnemann is clear that the correct remedy can indeed produce aggravation. It is the size of the dose primarily that determines the size of the aggravation.

It is only with the LM potencies that Hahnemann stated aggravation would only come at the end of the usefulness of the medicine, rather than the beginning.

A true aggravation (no new symptoms) occurs because the natural disease is being replaced by the artificial one - this is the law of similars at work, and may be experienced by the patient as a worsening of their symptoms.

Most of my patients experience a mild aggravation when treating their chronic disease. The generally also experience return of old symptoms during first and possibly second week after the dose. This in no way hampers their cure.

I treat mental health cases very frequently in clinic, along with a variety of other pathologies of a physical nature. Using Centesimal potencies, improvement for chronic conditions is rarely seen within 24 hours. It may in fact not be seen clearly for almost a week.

This is not the same as the temporary improvement people feel as the artificial disease takes hold of the patient. This can happen very quickly (minutes or hours after the dose) and is meaningless in terms of correctness of the remedy. An incorrect remedy can create this temporary improvement too although much less frequently. This reaction is merely the suspension of the natural disease while the artificial one begins its action - a kind of lull in the storm.

Many patients have some kind of mental disturbance caused by the diseased vital force, but this is different to mental patholgy. Like physical pathology, it is complex and stubborn, and requires patience and care prescribing to unravel.

Because I do not use LM's my experience of this healing time frame may be different to those who do use them.
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Here, we must appreciate difference of opinion and a professional helping hand.

I have seen a correct remedy performs miracles, works immediately and the patient is happy.

An IT professional came to me complaining a lot of tension and said, I just had enough....

I gave him 2 pellets of Kali Phos 30C, under his tongue. He was OK within 10 minutes and he could not believe the power of homoeopathic remedies.

Similarly, once, a labourer approached me, he was very shy and scared with his problem of urine not flowing regularly. I gave him 2 drops of Cantharis in 2 sips of water. He came back in few hours, thanking and praising homoeopathy. His problem was solved immediately.

The point I am making is, a correct remedy works immediately. Similarly, Merc Sol we suggest for toothache and bad breath that produces immediate results. There are so many patients with a variety of backgrounds, come with pain and various complaints. They are not capable of digesting homoeopathic material and science, they do not have the time or desire, but, only need a remedy for immediate relief.

On the other hand, I know a lot of professional homoeopaths repeat the same remedy at the time of aggravation and get good results. Sometimes they use complimentry remedy to get rid of aggravation.

nawazkhan last decade
Yes, of course! Hahnemann referred to homeopaths as healing artists! I welcome others opinions, and I welcome others to comment on cases I am recommending for, especially if they aren't going smoothly.

I definitely do use the C potency. I would estimate that about 2/3rds of the people I treat are on LMs, but that's difficult to say because I use Cs and LMs in the same cases frequently.

One of the interesting things I've seen in the cases from Hahnemann's records is that he often uses the Cs and LMs with the same patients! David Little has theorized that Hahnemann might have preferred the LMs in miasmatic cases, and used the Cs in first aid and as inter-currents. To the best of my experience so far, this has worked out very well.

Hahnemann wrote that the LMs cure chronic conditions in 1/2 to 1/4 the time of the C's, and this has been my experience. For this reason I try to use the LMs in most chronic cases. Some time ago, I moved many of my miasmatic cases from the Cs to the LMs, and was very happy with the results, especially the increase in the speed of cure.

Either way, I use the Cs on occasion, and I've often observed an immediate improvement in mental cases. For example, I've often given Ars. in 30c to constitutional Ars. patients in crisis states, and found an almost complete immediate improvement, and continued the remedy for months to complete such a cure.

This is different from palliating a case with an incorrect remedy, of course.

Another thing that is very interesting about the cases of Hahnemann that I've seen translated into English are that Hahnemann used the 197c, 198c, 199c, etc. He used many different potencies that modern pharmacies don't even make! The first generation of homeopaths even had a nickname for the 200c, - 'the great aggravator'! This caused me to explore adding the 100c to my remedies, and I've been very happy with it. Sometimes when a patient needs to move beyond a 30c, I will move them up to a 100c. There is a pharmacy here that I've been able to get 50c and some other intermediate grades from also.

My experience with the Cs is that the patients who get no aggravation do as well as those who do, and so I work to never aggravate anyone.
Homeopathy International 1 last decade

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