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Kali Carb vs Nat Mur

I know this may sound crazy, but I am trying to determine whether I'm a Nat Mur or a Kali Carb. I know they are so different.. My dad is a kali carb, my mom is a Nat Mur, and I have the personality of a Kali Carb and the mentals of a Nat Mur.

Any advice on how to differentiate?

I have the repressed emotions of a Nat Mur, depression, etc.. but I have the rigidity and by-the-bookness of Kali Carb and I struggle with anxiety (that definitely centers on the stomach!) I also feel like I am very socially awkward, and I am very tall and skinny.

My main physical symptoms are chronic fatigue and digestion issues, including constipation.

If anyone has any insight, I would much appreciate it!
 
  joannadarling on 2011-12-23
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Firstly, you cannot determine your own remedy in terms of your chronic or constitutional state. No homoeopath in the world is able to do it, much less anyone else. We cannot be objective about ourselves, and will we consistently misinterpret our own thoughts and feelings.

Secondly, the remedies your parents might need has no bearing on the remedy you need. None at all. We do not inherite specific remedy states. You may inherit a miasmatic state, or develop certain issues that members of your family share, but how you see and deal with those issues will be highly individual. Every member of the same family will usually need completely different remedies - they can need minerals, plants, animals, imponderables - anything really.

It is almost 100% certain you are neither Nat-mur or Kali-carb. You will not be able to guess it. There are over 5000 different medicines - being able to first determine what the state of the patient is that needs to be cured, and then matching one of those many many remedies to it, takes a high degree of training, skill and experience.

In every case where I have treated patients who know something about homoeopathy, especially students or other homoeopaths, they have always been way way off the mark about their own remedy. They are usually not even in the right Kingdom.

You can give your case here if you want someone to prescribe for you. I would be happy to.

David Kempson
Professional Classical Homoeopath
Dip.Hom.Med.1994
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
David - thank you for your response! I had a feeling it wouldn't work to try to determine my own constitutional remedy... I have been seeing a homeopath for about 6 months but ran out of funds to continue, her prices were very high. She had me on a variety of different remedies at different points in time.

I would love to give my case here, how do I go about doing that? I've seen some people answering a questionnaire in the past but I haven't been able to locate it, is this what I would be doing, and then posting it in this thread?

Thank you,
Joanna
 
joannadarling last decade
GUIDELINES FOR GIVING HOMOEOPATHIC CASE INFORMATION

It is important to describe all your problems in as much detail as you are able. One word answers and short sentences are not particularly helpful. Discuss each problem one at a time, providing (as a minimum level of detail) the following information.

1. What exactly happens?
2. Describe all sensations and pains. Each pain or sensation should be described in such a way that allows us to imagine having the same pain.
3. What causes the problem to get worse after it has started occurring?
4. What creates some relief for the problem?
5. What triggers the problem into occuring?
6. What time of the day or night does the problem occur?
7. When did the problem start? What was happening in your life at that time? Did some specific event or treatment take place just before the problem started?

Move from one problem to the next, doing the same thing. IT IS VITAL THAT YOU GIVE A COMPLETE PICTURE OF YOUR HEALTH BY PROVIDING ALL PROBLEMS YOU HAVE, EVEN IF NOT CONNECTED TO THE MAIN ONE, AND EVEN IF YOU CONSIDER IT OF LESS IMPORTANCE.

You should address each problem separately using the above 7 questions as a guide. Do not put all your complaints into each of the 7 questions. Discuss one problem at a time. If you have, for example, a headache with nausea, do each component separately too (what makes the head pain worse or better, what makes the nausea worse or better).

As well as this, please describe any traumatic incidents that have taken place in your life. Discuss anything that has had a lasting impact on you mentally, emotionally or physically.

Discuss the way that you manage or deal with your problems, or any problems that occur in your life.

Discuss any patterns you have noticed in your behavior especially concerning your disease.

Discuss any part of your life where you feel stuck or unable to change and grow, especially where this occurred around the beginning of your disease, or as the disease evolved.

Describe your childhood and the kind of environment you grew up in, with reference to your relationships with your family, your school experiences, and any serious childhood diseases.

If your earlier discussions have not mentioned these already, please describe:

1. The specific foods that you crave (not just like) or hate
2. The specific drinks that you crave or hate
3. What your sleep is like
4. How the weather and the temperature affects you
5. What kinds of things in the environment you are particularly sensitive to
6. What your general level of energy is like
7. What your level of sexual energy or desire is like
8. Describe your menstrual cycle

9. Also give these details

a) Body type and build
b) Skin colour and texture
c) Areas of the body tends to perspire on
d) Odour of sweat, body, stool, flatus, urine
e) Colour of stool, urine, sweat

10. Give any reactions to vaccines or medical drugs.

After answering this I will probably have more questions.

David
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
ANXIETY/PANIC
1. What exactly happens?
Pulse increases, stomach becomes upset, can't concentrate, breathing becomes difficult.

2. Describe all sensations and pains. Each pain or sensation should be described in such a way that allows us to imagine having the same pain.
My stomach starts to feel uncomfortable and I notice that I'm taking quick, shallow breaths and my pulse is starting to increase. I feel my stomach symptoms worsen, nausea or indigestion increases, I can feel the gas forming in my stomach, wanting to escape, but I am so anxious that I can't burp.. and I start thinking about what I would do if I needed to throw up. I plan routes in my head. I almost hyperventilate and I stop being able to concentrate. I start gripping the back of my neck with my hand, squeezing my neck (helps to prevent me from feeling like I need to gag). If I am in public or out of the house them the symptoms progress faster. I can feel my bowels react and start moving. I need quiet, peace, breathing, space, I need to be alone in case I vomit. I'm afraid of vomitting.

What I do when I panic seems to have changed over these past few months, maybe because of all the remedies I have been on. Initially it was always a pacing panic. Now most of the time I need to lie or sit as still as possible so my stomach can calm down. If I feel like I need to throw up then pacing is the last thing I want to do. Perhaps as my stomach symptoms have gotten worse over the past few months, my panic has changed?

The anxiety isn't always panic. It starts as anxiety and can turn into panic if the conditions are right. Sometimes it goes away quickly if I can focus on something else for long enough.

3. What causes the problem to get worse after it has started occurring?
Any worsening of stomach symptoms, being in a car, being out of the house, being with other people.

4. What creates some relief for the problem?
If I can find a space to be alone where no one can get to me. When I have anxiety at home, I close myself in my room and tell my husband that he can not come in. If our son needs me, then too bad, he will have to take care of him until I am able to leave the room. If I am out in public, then if I can find a place to hide, I feel better. Preferably somewhere dark where no one can see or hear me. Sometimes just thinking about where I would go helps me. Burping helps a lot, but the anxiety means I'm not relaxed enough to burp. Distraction helps. Sometimes I ask my husband to dig his fingernails into my knuckles while he's holding my hand. This usually provides enough of a distration to kick me out of it (OUCH it hurts though!). Sitting very still helps.

5. What triggers the problem into occuring?
Stomach problems, when I start to wonder if I'm going to need to throw up.

6. What time of the day or night does the problem occur?
Randomly, doesn't matter.

7. When did the problem start? What was happening in your life at that time? Did some specific event or treatment take place just before the problem started?
Problem started in June of 2001, after an engagement was broken because he loved someone else. I was working at an internship at the place where he was working and I was afraid of running into him. I was in the cafeteria eating my lunch when my first panic attack happened.


FATIGUE/EXHAUSTION
1. What exactly happens?
I feel so exhausted that I can't get up.

2. Describe all sensations and pains. Each pain or sensation should be described in such a way that allows us to imagine having the same pain.
I feel without energy, exhausted, like my body is processing or digesting something that is taking all its power. I need to lie down and stop moving and close my eyes.

Sometimes it isn't so intense, and most of the time I feel like I have a low-grade exhaustion like the one I described, just not as intense. The less intense ones last longer.

3. What causes the problem to get worse after it has started occurring?
Not lying down. If I continue to stay standing and moving around, it will continue to get worse.

4. What creates some relief for the problem?
Lying down, napping.

5. What triggers the problem into occuring?
I feel like I have more exhaustion if I eat sweet things, but I'm not sure. When I stopped eating sugar in my breakfast, these stopped for a while, but I'm now having them again.

6. What time of the day or night does the problem occur?
Doesn't matter.

7. When did the problem start? What was happening in your life at that time? Did some specific event or treatment take place just before the problem started?
These episodes started happening sometime after I started NAET treatments for food allergies. I once had blood drawn while I was feeling this way and my blood sugar reading was 63 - LOW!


LACK OF MOTIVATION
1. What exactly happens?
I am so unmotivated I can't even refill my water glass or go to the bathroom

2. Describe all sensations and pains. Each pain or sensation should be described in such a way that allows us to imagine having the same pain.
If I notice I have laundry to fold, I may have a twinge of motivation and brings me to standing and takes me over to the laundry basket. Halfway there I lose my motivation, I start to think 'what's the point? I am so tired, I don't want to do this.' and I turn around and go back to the couch.

3. What causes the problem to get worse after it has started occurring?
Continuing to not do anything. If the house is a mess it makes my motivation worse.

4. What creates some relief for the problem?
If the messy house is cleaned by someone other than me. Or, if I can motivate myself to do a little bit, I sometimes can survive off the intertia for a while and continue to have motivation. But a lot of times even if I do a little bit, I will all of a sudden lose the motivation and stop mid-task to go sit down again.

5. What triggers the problem into occuring?
Messy house. Having a lot to do. Exhaustion.

6. What time of the day or night does the problem occur?
Doesn't matter.

7. When did the problem start? What was happening in your life at that time? Did some specific event or treatment take place just before the problem started?
I feel like I have always had issues with motivation, but the addition of more responsibility to my life (having a child), coupled with my exhaustion, I feel has multiplied my lack of motivation. I've never felt this deep of a lack of motivation before. It almost feels like resentment has something to do with it. Resentment for having to clean everything and take care of the baby all the time.


STOMACH ISSUES
1. What exactly happens?
Nausea, burping.

2. Describe all sensations and pains. Each pain or sensation should be described in such a way that allows us to imagine having the same pain.
I experience nausea daily, but there are two different kinds. There's the background nausea that I experience every day at various points, and then there's the INTENSE nausea that feels like my intestines just spit a bunch of stuff back into my stomach. Rancid, belching, I-need-to-throw-up type of nausea. I never throw up though.

3. What causes the problem to get worse after it has started occurring?
Walking around, moving around, car rides, lots of noise or talk, crying baby, needing to take care of said crying baby.

4. What creates some relief for the problem?
Being still. Either lying down propped up, or sitting.

5. What triggers the problem into occuring?
The INTENSE nausea is triggered by an empty stomach. I usually have that nausea hours after eating.

6. What time of the day or night does the problem occur?
Doesn't matter!

7. When did the problem start? What was happening in your life at that time? Did some specific event or treatment take place just before the problem started?
The background nausea has just been in the past few months. I was being treated homeopathically with several different remedies, somewhere in there my nausea increased.
The INTENSE nausea I have had occuring since I was a child. I would call them my 'daily stomach aches' and these ones would usually occur after breakfast but before lunch. Made worse by taking flintstone vitamins. Currently, the time of day doesn't matter, I can have them at all times.


PAIN UNDER LEFT RIBCAGE
1. What exactly happens?
Stabbing pains under my left rib cage

2. Describe all sensations and pains. Each pain or sensation should be described in such a way that allows us to imagine having the same pain.
Like someone is stabbing me! It doesn't happen all the time, and when the stabbing pain isn't present there is usually always a dull pain in that spot. The stabbing pains usually happen 5+ times a day, at random times. I haven't been able to determine a pattern.

3. What causes the problem to get worse after it has started occurring?
Nothing that I've noticed.

4. What creates some relief for the problem?
Nothing that I've noticed.

5. What triggers the problem into occuring?
I haven't noticed any triggers!!!

6. What time of the day or night does the problem occur?
Doesn't matter.

7. When did the problem start? What was happening in your life at that time? Did some specific event or treatment take place just before the problem started?
A few years back, my husband got the stomach flu. I was SO FREAKED OUT about getting it myself that I lived in fear for a few days. The fear was brutal, though, gut wrenchingly so, I seriously wanted to die I was so afraid. Shortly after this experience, I started noticing that my left ribcage was poking out much further than my right ribcage, and it was painful. An ultrasound showed an inflammed muscle, and they told me it would go away on its own and I must have pulled it somehow. The swelling went down, but the pain never stopped.


CONSTIPATION
1. What exactly happens?
Constipated!

2. Describe all sensations and pains. Each pain or sensation should be described in such a way that allows us to imagine having the same pain.
Stool is hard to pass, only going every few days, stool is small and like pebbles. I feel anxious and usually nauseated before a bowel movement. Sometimes I have sharp pains in my abdomend before a bowel movement. They hurt incredibly bad, stinging stabbing pains.

3. What causes the problem to get worse after it has started occurring?
Pregnancy made the constipation worse, and so did taking Sulphur.

4. What creates some relief for the problem?
Nothing that I've found

5. What triggers the problem into occuring?
?

6. What time of the day or night does the problem occur?
All the time.

7. When did the problem start? What was happening in your life at that time? Did some specific event or treatment take place just before the problem started?
4 or so years ago I started experiencing indigestion so I started taking these probiotics called Blue Shield Probiotics. Ever since then, my stool has been pebbles. It got much worse during pregnancy.


MOTION SICKNESS
1. What exactly happens?
Nausea from motion sickness.
2. Describe all sensations and pains. Each pain or sensation should be described in such a way that allows us to imagine having the same pain.
I always have to be the one driving, otherwise I get motion sickness. I can't even be in the front passenger seat. The motion sickness is just nausea, never vomitting.

3. What causes the problem to get worse after it has started occurring?
Thinking about movement. Movement. Thinking about food. watching things that are moving.

4. What creates some relief for the problem?
Closing my eyes. Lying down very still.

5. What triggers the problem into occuring?
Excessive motion that I don't feel in control of.

6. What time of the day or night does the problem occur?
All times.

7. When did the problem start? What was happening in your life at that time? Did some specific event or treatment take place just before the problem started?
I would get motion sickness minimally as a child, it has gotten steadily worse since my stomach issues started increasing about 5 years ago. Now it's at an all time high.


DEPRESSION
1. What exactly happens?
Depression!

2. Describe all sensations and pains. Each pain or sensation should be described in such a way that allows us to imagine having the same pain.
Not being able to find fun in anything, not caring about anything, occasionally I'll have a despair episode where I feel hopeless and dead inside. Because I have a child to take care of now, these despair episodes make me feel worried that they're going to have to commit me.

3. What causes the problem to get worse after it has started occurring?
Nothing that I've noticed.

4. What creates some relief for the problem?
Hope. If someone offers me hope in healing.
A project. I have project ideas all the time, and I do them. I had an idea for a quilt, so I made a quilt (first one). I wanted to be a programmer so I went to college and became a programmer. I wanted to decorate cakes for a living, so I learned how and started my own business. Unfortunately my mind for projects has not been well lately, there is no time for them anymore anyway. I am highly motivated by money. Sometimes to help temporarily with the depression I will open up our budget and make adjustments and fiddle around and think about what it would be like to not have debt, and punch in some numbers to see how long it will be until we're out of debt..

5. What triggers the problem into occuring?
Not sure

6. What time of the day or night does the problem occur?
All times

7. When did the problem start? What was happening in your life at that time? Did some specific event or treatment take place just before the problem started?
The problem started 6 months after my anxiety problem started. It happened all of a sudden, in one night. I was read ing about demons in a Christian book and I started having a panic attack, and I was all of a sudden afraid to be alone, and despair overtook me.


FOGGY MIND
1. What exactly happens?
Mind becomes foggy

2. Describe all sensations and pains. Each pain or sensation should be described in such a way that allows us to imagine having the same pain.
When I try to think, I can't. The thoughts just float away. I can't hold conversations and can't think critically.

3. What causes the problem to get worse after it has started occurring?
Nothing that I've noticed.

4. What creates some relief for the problem?
Eating some sugar sometimes kicks me out of it.

5. What triggers the problem into occuring?
I've noticed cheese sometimes makes my mind foggy, but it isn't always the cause.

6. What time of the day or night does the problem occur?
No specific time of day.

7. When did the problem start? What was happening in your life at that time? Did some specific event or treatment take place just before the problem started?
Late pregnancy, I stopped being able to think. I quit my job as a computer programmer because I could no longer focus or problem solve. It also got worse the first time I went on Zoloft, 10+ years ago.


Please describe any traumatic incidents that have taken place in your life. Discuss anything that has had a lasting impact on you mentally, emotionally or physically.
I was separated from my mom right after birth, for 24 hours. I was under observation because I wasn't born within 24 hours of her waters breaking. They poked and prodded me. For the first 6 weeks of my life I screamed whenever I wasn't wrapped tightly or when I wasn't in the snuggly my mom put me in. She pretty much kept me in the snuggly, attached to her, for the first 6 weeks!

When I was 8 we moved from Oklahoma and I was very upset about leaving my friends. My mom tells me that after we moved I was never the same happy confident little girl. More quiet, reserved, had a very difficult time making friends. In junior high I rarely talked to my 'friends'. We'd sit together at lunch and they would have the conversation and I would sit and listen and not say anything at all. Strange set up now that I think about it. I made a few closer friends as I moved into high school, and that was better.


Discuss the way that you manage or deal with your problems, or any problems that occur in your life.
Right now I don't deal with them very well at all. I don't like talking about problems and prefer to just ignore them. I don't feel like I have the ability to work through any problems right now, so I don't even address them. When my husband tries to talk about them, I shut down. I ask him if we can talk about it later, but it never gets talked about. I can't deal with anything. I live for my son's nap and the few hours I have at night while he is sleeping. If he has a hard night or a short nap, I am in shambles because I didn't get enough time alone. Even when he sleeps well and long, I never feel like I have enough time alone.


Discuss any patterns you have noticed in your behavior especially concerning your disease.
I have kept impeccable health records, and have spent so many hours researching so many different things, trying to find something that will help me. I tend to overthink my symptoms and try to put them together in ways that don't fit. I am so wrapped up in my health that I feel like I haven't lived for a very long time.

But hope in recovery revitalizes me, if only for a little bit, until the phrase 'If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is' proves itself.

I don't enjoy things. I just.. don't. I try to think of what I like to do and the only thing I can think of it sitting in front of the computer, watching online tv.

I am always worried about something, which I think keeps me from having fun. I'm worried about Nico mostly, whether he's hungry, happy, well.

I miss dreaming. Starting a few weeks after Nico was born, I stopped having dreams. I feel like they've started to pick up again only just recently, but I still have rarely any. I feel like I'm missing out on a large part of how my brain processes stuff. A month ago I finally had a huge terrible dream, just like I used to have, and I woke up feeling like my old self ('old self' being before Nico was born), if only for a few minutes.

In general my dreams, when I have them, are filled with running away from someone evil, tornadoes, cars I can't control and public restrooms that all have overflowing toilets and no privacy.


Discuss any part of your life where you feel stuck or unable to change and grow, especially where this occurred around the beginning of your disease, or as the disease evolved.

A lot of my anxiety was because I was afraid of throwing up. Up until that point I hadn't thrown up since I was in the third grade. A few years ago I finally threw up for the first time in 20 years, and since then have had more and more success in getting over my fear of vomitting. Now I feel like I'm at the point where I really don't like it, but I'm not afraid of it like I used to be. The thing I'm afraid of still is throwing up in public, in front of other people, even in front of my husband! This seems to drive a lot of my anxiety.


Describe your childhood and the kind of environment you grew up in, with reference to your relationships with your family, your school experiences, and any serious childhood diseases.
Childhood was great, mom was stay-at-home, dad was in the military for half of my childhood so we moved a lot in the early years. We played outdoors a lot and generally had a lot of fun. When my mom had a job for a few months I was very upset and swore up and down that when I had kids I would never work. We were all very close, though, and I loved spending time with my family as a child. As I moved into junior high, though, I became very unruly. I was very very mean to my mom, yelling and screaming and slamming doors. My mom asked me once why I was so mean to her and apparently I told her that it was because I knew she would still love me.

I used to have these days where I felt 'off'. I couldn't describe it other than feeling like there was something not right. There was one 'date night' my parents were going to have but I was so upset about them leaving because I felt funny, that they decided to stay home. I still get these feelings every once in a while, seems to happen more when things are different than normal, during change.

As a young child I had a lot of ear infections, always treated with antibiotics.


If your earlier discussions have not mentioned these already, please describe:

1. The specific foods that you crave (not just like) or hate
I crave baked sweets, juicy fruits, chocolate

2. The specific drinks that you crave or hate
I crave milk, and orange juice

3. What your sleep is like
My sleep is broken up by my son, who still wakes about 4 times a night (even though he's 17 months old!). I sometimes have trouble getting back to sleep. If my son sleeps a good chunk, I often wake up anyway, to use the restroom or maybe because I'm just used to waking.

4. How the weather and the temperature affects you
I don't like hot or cold. I chill very easily. I also am anxious during thunder storms. I've always attributed this to spending a few years in Oklahoma as a child. I still have nightmares about tornadoes.

5. What kinds of things in the environment you are particularly sensitive to
I am very sensitive to loud noises! I hate them! I also can't stand background music, I would rather it just be turned off.

6. What your general level of energy is like
Below human

7. What your level of sexual energy or desire is like
Low.

8. Describe your menstrual cycle
Menarche at 16 years old. Cycles are 25-26 days long, cramps before/during period, more depression and irritability than normal a few days before period is due. Period is usually light, lasts 5 days.

9. Also give these details

a) Body type and build
Tall and thin, but have been described as graceful

b) Skin colour and texture
Pale, 'fair', yellowish. Texture seems normal? I have dry hands and lips that crack and bleed, nondescript bumps on my knees, mole on my left arm.

c) Areas of the body tends to perspire on
Just under my arms

d) Odour of sweat, body, stool, flatus, urine
Not sure how to describe these things! Sweat smells bad, no distinct body smell, stool smells old, flatus smells like the stool, urine smells heavy, like there are lots of things in it.

e) Colour of stool, urine, sweat
Stool is dark brown, with a lot of pale speckles, urine is pale yellow, sweat is clear.

10. Give any reactions to vaccines or medical drugs.
I don't think I had any vaccine reactions. I took Amoxicillan a few years ago and itched all over until I stopped it. The anti-depressants I've been on all caused me nausea. Well-Butrin made me feel crazy and hyper.
[message edited by joannadarling on Sat, 24 Dec 2011 04:19:36 GMT]
[message edited by joannadarling on Tue, 07 Feb 2012 04:52:26 GMT]
 
joannadarling last decade
I also wanted to give an update on what my previous homeopath had prescribed me:


After Nico was born, I started doing NAET treatments to help deal with food allergies. I feel like my 'dead' symptoms started around this time. I stopped being able to feel emotions and only had anger, irritability and resentment. I also stopped dreaming. I was able to stop taking Zoloft after 10+ years of being on it, all because the dead feeling had stopped all of my panic attacks. The deadness just continued to get worse. I started seeing a homeopath in June. She prescribed Phosphoric Acid 200C, to be taken 4 times in one day and then again 2 weeks later. I was to do this for 12 weeks but only lasted 8 before I was so sick of feeling like crap that I pushed up our appointment.

This is what happened while taking the Phosphoric Acid:
1 - I had my first postpartum period 2 days after my first dose.
2 - I was able to cry a few times (hadn't been able to before this)
3 - Started having panic attacks again (last time I had had one was before Nico was born)
4 - Depression worsened
5 - Digestion problems worsened

During my next appointment she decided to try me on Arsenicum 200C, to take it several times a day and to stop if I felt it was making things worse. I took it for 2 days before I stopped taking it. Same problems, maybe a little less panicky than before.

We then talked on the phone and she prescribed Sepia 200C. I only had 30C with me at the time, from my kit, so I started taking that until I could get the 200C. I started the Sepia a week after I had done the Arsenicum. I took 30C right before bed and had an immediate aggravation, I became extremely afraid of being alone at night. My husband works nights. I became afraid of burglars, and demons. I couldn't fall asleep because every sound had me looking at the door. I had to sleep with the lights on. This lasted about a week before I could be relatively calm enough to sleep well at night on my own.

I felt a little more connected to my son and husband while taking the Sepia, and even though completely exhausted I was able to push myself to do things that needed to be done, like go grocery shopping and pick up stuff off the floor.

After relaying what I was feeling to my homeopath, she told me to alternate Sepia with Psorinum every other week. Some of the anger toward husband and son came back. And I started having episodes of feeling faint, low blood sugar, having to lie down and barely able to breathe I had no energy and was so close to fainting. I needed to eat all the time in order for the fainting episodes to not happen. They finally went away after 4 days. Digestion got worse, feelings of fullness and nausea, and anxiety/panic surrounding these feelings. It felt like too much work to do anything. No energy or motivation, couldn't even refill my water glass I was so tired and depressed.

Caught a cold, and took Kali Bichromicum 30C, and within 5 minutes I felt great. Not just cold symptoms were gone, but symptoms I've had for a very long time. I had energy, motivation, hope, joy, and I no longer had the anger and irritation. Didn't last very long... I tried to recreate the feeling by taking more of the kali bichromicum but it didn't work.

So more than a month passed, and I had my next appointment, and she prescribed Lac Humanum 200C, for I was also having a strange sensation while breastfeeding (have always had this, this wasn't a new symptom). The Lac Humanum did nothing for the breastfeeding sensation. I did get violent heartburn and nausea that sparked a panic attack. Stomach issues continued to be at a high, depression issues continued to be at a high. The feeling that I needed to be taken care of increased while on Lac Humanum.

Another month, she said she would start over with my case, and eventually prescribed Silica 200C. Twice a day. It seemed to help a bit with energy, but I could only take it for 4 days before I had to stop because every time I took it, my stomach instantly started feeling full and I would burp and burp and burp and burp and burp. I had to antidote one dose with Nux Vomica to stop that feeling. It also upped my hunger and feelings of weakness. She told me to reduce to 30C. For a few days of taking it, after taking the 30C I would feel calmer and my stomach aches would go away. But the energy I had on the 200C waned and I started feeling depressed again.

3 weeks after starting the 200C, homeopath switched me to taking Sulphur 6x twice a day for 3 weeks. I lasted 2 weeks and a few days before I stopped because the burning and acid reflux were too much for me, not to mention the increase in constipation. After stopping, I had a very bad depressive episode and then a few days of increased stomach issues. While on the sulphur I seemed to stop feeling depressed.

Now I'm feeling tired, exhausted, unmotivated, irritated, and am starting to get depressed again. I am hating sitting through each day, waiting for the night time so my son will go to sleep and I can watch tv and just sit without having to think.
 
joannadarling last decade
From the look of that previous treatment plan, there seems to be no understanding of your case.

You have given a good whack of information there. I will start looking over it and see if any further questions come up.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Tons of stuff, I know, and I'm still worried I forgot something important :/
 
joannadarling last decade
One chronic thing I forgot to mention:

1. What exactly happens?
Irritability/anger

2. Describe all sensations and pains. Each pain or sensation should be described in such a way that allows us to imagine having the same pain.
Like everyone is out to get me and no one understands or even wants to understand. The irritability is sometimes outright anger. I sometimes get so angry that I throw things.

3. What causes the problem to get worse after it has started occurring?
Someone talking to me or getting in my way while I'm doing something.

4. What creates some relief for the problem?
Everyone leaving me alone, not talking to me, letting me do my own thing. Most of the time eating makes me feel a little better.

5. What triggers the problem into occuring?
From not getting time alone. From something requiring my attention, plans changing, something/someone not living up to my expectations.

6. What time of the day or night does the problem occur?
Doesn't matter.

7. When did the problem start? What was happening in your life at that time? Did some specific event or treatment take place just before the problem started?
I've always been irritable, but since my son was born it has been much worse.
 
joannadarling last decade
Sorry to keep adding more, but one of the symptoms I've been experiencing a lot of lately is dizziness. Most notable when I move my head too quickly. If I get it while walking then it's likely I'll run into a wall or something because I can't get my bearings.

Another prevalent one has been the anxiety. The anxiety is like I can't catch my breath, and it seems to start in my stomach, with nausea and acidity. I'll notice how gross I feel in my stomach and then realize I need to start breathing and taking in more oxygen, otherwise it will get worse. It almost feels like adrenaline, like maybe if I run around in circles for a little bit I could get rid of it. (But then if I did that I would have serious indigestion. Running, for me, is out of the question with my stomach problems. I can hear things sloshing around in there whenever I move too quickly. Even the thought of running gives me indigestion). Wow. Now I have indigestion. UGH!
 
joannadarling last decade
Do you have any questions for me?
 
joannadarling last decade
Tonight I all of a sudden started feeling faint. Now I feel like I'm sweating and I feel very very faint. I am so sick of all these crazy symptoms! I seem to be experiencing a lot of my discomfort when I feel like I need to have a bowel movement.

Today a terrible exhaustion episode happened after drinking water. I always drink my water at room temperature and I drink a lot at once, because I'm thirsty. It seemed like after my body was done digesting the water, that I could walk about again. A lot of times I feel very thirsty (especially when I'm having a nauseous stomach episode), and my mouth gets dry, but I can't drink the water because I know it will make my stomach problems worse and will take that much longer to digest all the stuff that's in my stomach.

I go from good to bad so quickly, and from bad to good so quickly. So frustrating!
 
joannadarling last decade
I know you must be terribly busy! I would like to relay some stuff to you in private, if you are still planning on taking my case?
 
joannadarling last decade
Describe more on:

Everyone is out to get me

Someone getting in my way

Being alone

Plans being changed

Your expectations of others
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Everyone is out to get me
Like everything that happens to me is just to make me more upset. Like the universe has shifted and everything in my life is now shifted just enough to irritate me. The cupboard doors in the kitchen will be open, all the dishes will be dirty, there will be no parking spaces at the Co-op, my son is hungry.. pretty normal things, but when I'm irritated it feels like they are purposefully there in order to make me more irritated.

Someone getting in my way
If I am trying to make dinner and my husband is in the kitchen, or blocking a cupboard I need to get to, I will get mad. If I'm driving, and there is someone crossing the street in front of my and it forces me to brake, I get mad. Or if a car pulls out in front of me or goes too slow on the road. Or if I'm in a grocery store and there's someone standing in front of the stuff that I want, or if someone is taking their time talking to the cashier.

Being alone
Being alone where no one's expectations of me can be felt or perceived or even imagined. Social expectations seem to aggravate all of my symptoms. If i can imagine the expectations of someone who can see me right now, then those imagined expectations can aggravate. I want to be perceived as someone beautiful, mysterious, independent, smart and intelligent, but when I am feeling terrible in my stomach and there are people around, I am afraid of throwing up, I am afraid of breaking the image I want people to see me as. So I start to imagine what people are thinking, or imagine what people WILL be thinking when I throw up. Trying to keep it all together in the face of other people is so hard. So I would prefer to be alone. So alone that no one even remembers I exist for a while. I also want it to be dark. Not just so that other people can't see me, but so that I can't see what's going on with me either. The times I've needed to vomit, I always turn out the light. Sensory input through my eyes and ears also aggravates symptoms. I close my eyes and sometimes plug my ears before I vomit, as a last ditch effort to drown out any expectations that I can imagine if I happen to hear someone or see someone.

You may have meant 'being alone' in regards to the irritability - I think this also has to do with expectations. If there is no one around, and I am alone, there is no one around to expect things of me, since this also sets off my irritability. If anyone wants anything from me while I'm irritated, too bad!!!

Plans being changed
I run future plans through my head a lot, so that I become comfortable with them and so that I will know exactly how things are going to go, so I can be prepared mentally. Surprise stuff is very hard for me to adapt to. If plans change last minute, or even if plans change in a reasonable amount of time ahead of time, I get very irritated. I feel like I only have a finite amount of energy to think about things, and spending it planning for something that just ends up being changed is very frustrating. I get instantly irritated.

Your expectations of others
I expect a lot from my husband and others. More than I expect from myself. I expect my husband to do everything without complaining, to think about my needs at all times, to always be willing to help me when I ask, to clean up after himself, and to always be happy. When he doesn't meet these expectations, I get irritated. I feel like i deserve all these things from him because of all I do to take care of our son, and how I'm still woken several times a night to care for him. Whether or not that's valid, that's how I feel. I expect everyone else to stay out of my way physically, treat me nicely, and accommodate me in any way I need.
 
joannadarling last decade
While taking Sulphur 6x as prescribed by my previous homeopath, I developed a muscle pain in the middle of my left thigh. It has been probably 2 weeks now with it. I thought it would just go away, but it hasn't. The pain sometimes reaches up to my left hip.

Would this be considered a new symptom caused by the Sulphur? I'm also having random muscle pains in my legs and hands and arms. Maybe twice a day I'll get a slow increase and decrease in pain in a particular spot.

Another chronic symptom that I have is knee joint pain. I notice this mostly as I am sitting down. I have had this for a few years.

Hopefully these things I'm remembering to mention aren't messing up your process. And I'm hoping you received the email I sent with additional information in it. Please let me know if you have any more questions. I am looking forward to hearing what you have to say!

Thanks again
Joanna
 
joannadarling last decade
The more information you add the better. You are being a very helpful patient :)

It sounds like the Sulphur created a proving symptom. Why on earth they prescribed a 6x I cannot understand. That kind of low potency is too broad acting and often creates problems. Your disease is not expressed at that level - you seem much more around the 200c-1M level.

I will have a decision on a remedy by the end of today. I have put aside some time to deal with the new cases I have on here.
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Sat, 31 Dec 2011 21:40:43 GMT]
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
That sounds great, thank you!
Joanna
 
joannadarling last decade
Ok I have gone through everything you have written, and I have determined some directions we can take. However, to be sure I need you to elaborate on a couple of points.

Your case definitely does not call for either Nat-mur or Kali-carb that much I can say.

What I am going to do is give some words you used, and what I want you to do is sort of free associate them. Just write whatever comes to mind when you look at them. Don't go back into telling me the story behind them, just the pure experience of them or any odd thought that comes to you.

Grip, Squeeze, Escape, Wrapped

Remain very still

Find a place to hide that is dark and one cannot be seen

Digesting something that takes all the power

Stabbing, being stabbed

Demons (describe a demon, what it does, what it is like, what do they look like)

Privacy

Tornadoes
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
This was really difficult. Hopefully it's what you need! Let me know if you need more.

Grip, Squeeze, Escape, Wrapped
Gripping and squeezing so hard it's like I want to get inside what I'm squeezing , but can never get there. I'm stuck on the outside, the world is too abrasive and I'm stuck on the outside. I want to get inside. Grabbing the arm of my son and squeezing it to show him I'm angry, wanting him to feel the pain. I am wrapped in a length of fabric like a mummy, it is squeezing me but it's not enough, I still need to be closer to the fabric. I escape by going inside. I don't want to be outside anymore.
Trying to get air I grip at my throat, trying to open my wind pipe. Not enough air. I swallow and swallow trying to free it. Almost drowning. I remember as a child I almost drowned in a lake. I am all out of strength and can't breathe.

Remain very still
No one can see me. I shift my eyes back and forth to try and get a feel for who is looking at me. I'm hoping that I melt into the background. Moving is like admitting I am like them: judgmental, hateful, normal and without problems. But I'm not. I'm not alive like they are. Whirring and moving, the world is. All I want to do is be still.

Find a place to hide that is dark and one cannot be seen
Under a table, behind a bed, in the closet. I'm trying to escape from the sensations in my body. The further I walk or drive the better. Circling a tree at night, pacing in a parking lot, between the cars, under a stairwell. I can't breathe and the world is spinning and I don't want anyone to see my like this. But I can still be seen. There is darkness around me and I'm trying to keep myself from becoming aware of myself, as if I am also a third person who is observing what is happening. I don't want to observe it!! I don't want to be a part of it. I want it to happen without me. In the dark I can't see what's happening to me. It's almost like I'm not there when it's dark. The space I'm trying to crawl into is not small enough. I can't even squeeze myself into it but it's still too big. The space is like a cylindrical triangle, a corner. Three corners.

Digesting something that takes all the power
There's an animal or creature inside me that is hooked up to my power center. It flipped the switch and in my mind I see it using all my faculties to do evil. Taking my breath, my brain, my mind, my soul, to construct evil things inside my belly. I'm powerless even to cry. It gobbles up everything. When it's done, there's nothing left inside. I have to start over, rebuilding.

Stabbing, being stabbed
Being stabbed in the stomach. A lot of times when I am around a knife, I have a quick flash of what would happen if I stabbed the person closest to me.
When I am stabbed it is in the stomach, the person's arm goes right through the hole to the other side, with the knife. They shrug and walk off. Now there's a hole in my stomach!

Demons (describe a demon, what it does, what it is like, what do they look like)
It has claws, and wings, a tail, is dark gray and it screams for me. Attached to my shoulder and digging his claws into me. With his tail he whips my back to make me do things. Or I'm being chased by one. I am in my house and there are demons outside my window scraping to get it. They get access to the house by possessing a cat that comes inside. Battles between angels and demons in my bedroom. I feel it while I'm fearful. When I say bad words I can feel the angels leaving. The demons possess the people I love, make them treat me terribly. The demons spit and curse at me.

Privacy
I don't have privacy. I'm open and the world can see me. There is nothing inside me that is not also on the outside. Even when I keep secrets, it is not privacy, everyone can see what's inside me.
Wearing a chastity belt is the most important privacy! Locked and throwing away the key.

Tornadoes
The first thing I learned that my parents could not control. There was NO control, I am at the tornado's whim. Praying and praying and praying but it still doesn't seem like enough. Prayer doesn't seem like enough. Is God even in control of tornadoes? I search and search for a safe place to be, I yell at everyone to follow me but they don't follow. They don't know what to do in tornadoes but they don't care. I try to tell them that it will kill them but they don't listen to me. They think they have control over tornadoes! They think that it will always go well with them, that they will never have to worry. I always find a spot to hide from the tornado but I'm never sure if it's enough, if it's far enough under ground or if it's in the middle of the house enough.
 
joannadarling last decade
This appears to be an Animal Kingdom remedy, which would explain why Sepia has some minor effects on you.

However you do not really give Mollusc/Cephalopod language here so Sepia cannot be right.

The main issue of the Animal Kingdom is the problem with others, me verses them, a feeling of being victimized or being in competition, of being attacked or dominated or controlled.

When patients who need these remedies talk about their disease, they often describe it as a separate entity or force that fights with them or controls them (the demon in your story). There is a split within the person, as if two entities are struggling over the one body.

When looking to find an animal remedy, you need to look to the different methods of survival, attack, defence, reproduction, and so on. Patients will express these without even undestanding they are doing it.

The key expressions here are:

Grip, Squeeze, Wrap,
Wrapped tightly,Escape
Remain very still
Hide where it is dark
Remain unseen
Go where people cannot get you
Leave young to fend for themselves
Digesting something takes all energy, must lie down and stop moving
Stabbing
Below HUMAN energy
Aversion to sexual partner
Solitary nature
Squeeze into small spaces
Animal or creature inside me
Powerless it gobbles everything up, inside my belly
Hide far enough underground to be safe

This language suggest to me that you need one of the Constrictor snakes, and specifically the remedy Python Regius.

The Reptile family generally has a major issue with parental care. Most reptiles leave their young to fend for themselves, they don't want or need anything to do with them. After mating, there is also no attachment to their mate, and they go their own ways. This can play out in the patient's current relationships, or be seen historically with their own parents.

Reptiles also feature strongly the theme of being unseen or invisible. Camouflage is a major survival mechanism of this group.

The Boidae family generally show the following characteristics:

Prey is swallowed whole, engulfed, nothing left
Prey sits as a single large object in their stomach, making it difficult for them to move
This swallowed food will cause them to shut down and stop moving, until it is digested.
Food can decay too rapidly inside them, causes dangerous gases to form.
Constriction is the main form of attack - wrap, grip and squeeze. They wrap around their prey tightly.
Solitary
Crawl and squeeze into small spaces, either to hide or to follow prey.
They remain perfectly still when hunting, and make a sudden attack.

The Pythons prefer darkness, prefer the night, are particularly shy and secretive.

Python regius, even when out in the open, will curl into a ball and hide its head, so you cannot see it. They favour hiding undergound in dark small burrows. This snake if the one most often kept as pets, and the patient needing such a remedy can feel a high level of control or being trapped or domesticated.

See if you can get hold of 200c and 1M (or let me know what you are able to get).
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Mon, 02 Jan 2012 01:28:12 GMT]
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Thank you!
Do I need granules/tablets/pills/liquid or does it matter?
 
joannadarling last decade
Do not get tablets. Any of the others are fine.

INSTRUCTONS FOR SPLIT DOSING

Firstly, you need to create a separate dosing bottle. Get a bottle with a dropper, 15-30mls in size, and fill it with a mixture of water and alcohol (5 parts to 1 part). Dissolve 2 granules or 2 drops of the medicine you bought from the pharmacy into this mixture. Your doses will be made from this bottle.

Hit the bottle firmly against the palm of your hand, or another elastic surface like a book. It should be a firm hit not a tap. 2 hits is enough to begin with, and should not be increased unless it is clear that it is needed. The water in this bottle will 'remember' the number of times you have hit it, so that subsequent doses will be stronger (necessary to overcoming the resistance of your disease).

Place 1 drop into an amount of water - I may start with anything from 1/4-1 full cup (62ml-250ml) depending on the sensitivity of the patient. Stir thoroughly and take 1 teaspoon into the mouth. Throw the rest of the cup away.

This is one dose. Repeat doses would be started from the 2 hits on the bottle.

Each step of this process can be adjusted to reduced aggravation or to increase the effect of the medicine. In order to be able to do this, it is important to measure each step (count the hits, the drops, measure the water etc).
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Thank you! I am calling around today to see where I can get it. I'll let you know.

Is it possible that the Sulphur might still be doing something? My emotional state has actually been getting better over the past few weeks, slowly. I find myself not as depressed. Of course I still have all the stomach and anxiety issues, but the depression hasn't been so prevalent.

Also, would you have time to take my son's case? He is waking at night still, at 17 months old, hungry and wanting to eat. I can start a new thread for him, let me know if you think you'd have time for it!

Thank you so much for all your help. By witnessing your process, my faith in homeopaths has almost been restored. I was beginning to think that remedy selection was just a guessing game. Not to say that there isn't still room for error, but you certainly put much more effort into my case than my previous homeopath. I feel like she had made up her mind about me before I could tell her what was inside.

Joanna
 
joannadarling last decade
This is the new direction of homoeopathy, to attempt to indiviualise the suffering of the patient to a very high degree. There is a great deal of mechanical prescribing in homoeopath, giving remedies without understanding why or even if the patient really needs them.

This case is in no way Sulphur. Whatever it might be doing, it is not your remedy. By the time you get the remedy I have suggested its action will be over anyway.

I often hear from patients in my own clinic that this method of case taking and analysis often makes them feel really heard for the first time.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
I made a thread for my son's case, it's here:

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/314328/

Also, I'm curious where you went to school? I have wanted to become a homeopath for a while, but after my experience with my last homeopath, I started changing my mind against it. But, I think the fire has been rekindled. I like the way you prescribe and am intrigued by the way you administer remedies (not a dry dose), and am just curious where you went to school!
 
joannadarling last decade

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