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Homeopathy and Down Syndrome

I have a son with Down syndrome who will be turning 4 at the end of June. He has been treated by a couple of homeopaths, for the last couple of years, currently by Dr Bajerni with whom he has been about 6 7 months. My question is: what have been your experience with children with Down syndrome, can homeopathy actually help with attention, memory, speech and learning abilities?, so far the results are fine but there are other therapies we are doing with my son so I am not 100% he is getting better solely through his homeopathic treatment, thanks
  janecita on 2012-04-15
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I have treated childen with Downs Syndrome and seen good improvements. They never reach the level of other children, in my experience. I am not sure what the experience is of other homoeopaths.

What kind of results have you go so far with the homoeopathy? I am interested to know what treatment the Bannerjis would use for it - are they treating with an individually selected medicine or do they have a 'Down's Syndrome' medicine?
brisbanehomoeopath 8 years ago
Yes Dr, our son's speech is more clear, he is repeating more words, understanding is better, he is more connecvted and alert, his digestion is better as well, he is growing although he is still very small for his age. He is taking Shica (allium cepa 30c and bryona alba 200c)and iodicin (iodum 200c and ipecacuanha 200c)
regularly alternate days mornings. They gave us some other medicines as needed for other issues like colds, digestive issues, etc. They took a history of our son, and they told us which medicines he needed, I do not know if they follow a protocol for children with Down syndrome of if he got something more individualized. He should be treated for 1 year. Did you children achieve similar gains?
janecita 8 years ago
They give new names to our remedies when they combine them? I didn't know that.

I suspect that they chose those medicines on his individual case and history, because none of them present a 'typical' picture for Down's. That is actually encouraging to see. There is still some actual homoeopathy going on in the Bannerji clinic, even if I disagree with so many remedies being used at once.

I saw similar results with my patients. The length of time they needed to be treated varied, but improvements were seen within the first month.
brisbanehomoeopath 8 years ago
They do, they have researched the medicines and ailments and have created 'new' combination medicines with different names,
it is quite interesting to me.
I do knot know much about homeopathy, but why is it you can see 3 different homeopaths and each of them will give you there different sets of medicine?, this is what I have trouble understanding, how do you know which one is right and which medicine will work?, it seems that because of this the success rate is not that high, sometimes I hvae felt that some homeopaths are just guessing by trial and error what will work, a few years ago, I went to see a Homeopath for a urinary tract infection, he switched 3 times the medicines and still did not help, then I consulted another homeopath who told me in her experience it is 30% chance she will arrive to the right medicine the 1st time and finally found another homeopath who gave another remedy and it did work, I was relieved but does it always work like that?
janecita 8 years ago
There is no single 'right' remedy. Each patient's overall state (we call totality) will be similar to the state produced by a variety of remedies. Depending on how similar the remedy is to the state of the patient will determine how good a response you get. Some of our remedies actually resemble each other in certain ways, and so they can be useful for one specific patient who also has those features.

However, the real issue is always the level of the response. Any remedy that does not suit the entire case including the miasm and the causation and the history, is what we call a partial similar. Partial similars may do a variety of things (including suppress the disease rather than cure it) but if well chosen it can cause a whole part of the case to improve. Then a second partial similar may be chosen to deal with the symptoms that have not improved. This is called 'zig-zagging'. It actually takes a lot of skill and care to do this properly. You actually have to make a number of suitable prescriptions in the right order, so the margin for error is greater.

There is always one Simillimum though - a perfectly similar remedy that matches the whole case. This remedy produces a response that is often called miraculous. It can be difficult to find, especially if the practitioner is not particularly well trained. The search for deep cure is always the search for the simillimum. Partial similars is an imperfect system of treatment that is used when the simillimum cannot be found. Patients can still achieve a high level of health through zig-zagging.

There was a study done by the Irish Dept of Health a few years go into the effectiveness of alternative medicines. Homoeopathy was found to be around 80% effective. These were a variety of types of homoeopaths, so whatever their differences in style, the results were still excellent.

My own experience amongst my clients is about the same - 70-80% marked and stable improvement across all levels. The simillimum on the other hand I probably only find 20% of the time.

Homoeopathy is very reliant on the skill of the practitioner, as quite often the training is not consistent. Most governments and especially medical authorities spend their efforts denigrating and persecuting homoeopaths, so colleges often find it difficult to get good quality teachers and to stay financially viable. I know in Australia this has resulted in many natural therapy colleges ceasing to teach Homoeopathy, and our current pool of registered practitioners is around 600. That is 600 to service a population of 22 million.

I taught at a college for seven years, and I was appalled at the complete lack of care the college showed in ensuring the students were competent. I had to spend many extra hours tutoring them myself, bringing them into my own clinic, scheduling meetings and information sharing sessions outside of my paid hours.

The various medical organisations around the world have worked very hard to make sure that Homoeopathy does not achieve the recognition it deserves, and therefore does not receive any funding or grants to help improve the state of things. Most of this is backed by the pharmaceutical industry that has a particular hatred for homoeopaths. We often set ourselves against drug treatments, vaccinations and so on. This has made us very unpopular.

Because it is a bit of a lucky dip to see if you get a practitioner that is trained, qualified, competent, and has a talent for homoeopathy (plus has all the other qualities you need in any therapist), the only thing you can do is shop around and hold on to any good ones you find.
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Tue, 17 Apr 2012 02:00:14 BST]
brisbanehomoeopath 8 years ago
Thanks Dr for educating me, now I am starting to get how all this homeopathy works, what is miasm?, also how do you feel about online homeopathy, do you think it can still work or is it better to see the patient face to face?
janecita 8 years ago
good info on here from Brisbane.

He will tell you it is always better to
go face to face bc you can use all
tools to prescribe.

And the online depending on who you
take advice from ? can be good and
can be bad and can be not what you
need. You should know as in your
previous posts you had advice from
Joe, who is not a homeopath, and recently Sureheight who says what
you are calling a problem is NO
problem ( ridiculous) etc and no
one knows who sureheight is.

btw, joe is not a dr. and brisbane is
not a dr. but a real homeopath.
If you start reading treatments on
this forum you can start to see who
gives good advice and people benefit
from that advice. Then ask for that
person and do not leave it up to
'anyone' who decided to answer your
simone717 8 years ago
Simone is right, I will always say face-to-face is better, however you still need to get a good homoeopath. A poorly trained one will not be of much use even in person.

Miasm is the underlying chronic weakness that provides 'power' to your diseases over the entire of your lifetime. It is part of disease, yet it is more than that - a kind of pattern, or blueprint for illness. Any disease you develop will tend to have this pattern, and it must be cured just like the current disease must or new diseases will appear to replace the current one.
brisbanehomoeopath 8 years ago
Joe Delivera is not a homeopath?, I did not know he was not, well so what qualifies a homeopath a homeopath, i have seen an MD with advanced studies in homeopathy, also have seen a doctor with degree in Homeopathic Medicine and Surgery from University of Mumbai, India and the doctors from Bajerni. How can I differentiate a real Homeopath from a pseudo one?
janecita 8 years ago
If you want someone with a degree
check out where they got it from.
University of Mumbai or outer Mongolia?

If you want an MD and one who also
has homeopathy degree, that is a dedicated person-who knows allopathy
and homeopathy and has chosen

Then do they practice 'classical homeopathy' do you want that?
Banerji says they do not practice classical
homeopathy they are using medicines
of homeopathy in another way.

So those are some criteria, Other
criteria is how long have they practiced,
how many cases of what you have
have they cured?

I have had homeopath MD's who have
been doing classical homeopathy,
and some have given good prescriptions some have not.
but these are some critera you can
decide if you want to use. the point
is know who you are talking to.

Kadwa and Maheeru on this site
are not certified homeopaths, yet
they have treated many cases and solved cases other homeopaths have
not been able to.
[message edited by simone717 on Tue, 17 Apr 2012 21:52:13 BST]
simone717 8 years ago
That is actually two questions.

Firstly there is the issue of qualifications. Homoeopathy is a course of study in most countries that takes 3-5 years to complete. While being qualified doesn't make a practitioner a good one, it certainly provides a necessary base for competency. Because homoeopathy is quite difficult to practice, students need to be put into clinical situations and assessed by expereienced homoeopaths to ensure that they genuinely understand how to put the philosophy into practice. If this is not done, the practitioner may never understand what mistakes they are making, and will continue to make them.

Secondly there is the issue of Classical or Traditional Homoeopathy versus all the other kinds of treatments that attach themselves to our medicine. This is much harder for a patient to assess, as it may require a reasonable knowledge of our basic principles to see where a practitioner is deviating. The term Pseudohomoeopath has been coined to describe those people who do not apply the principles, but continue to call themselves homoeopaths. There are many therapies that do not go under our banner, and whatever they do with our medicines is their business.

There is one basic thing a practitioner must do to still be able to call themselves a homoeopath.

They must use the Law of Similars to choose a medicine. Using any other method, including muscle testing, dowsing, electrical machines, or spirit guides, is not homoeopathy. Using medicines based on the name of the pathology rather than looking at the symptoms, is also not homoeopathy.

The principle of similarity hooks into the principle of individualisation. Each patient's case needs to be highly individualised. However this is harder to judge as the signs and symptoms each practitioner needs to see the remedy will differ according to their experience and skill.

The other principles (Single Remedy, Minimum Dose, Direction of Cure) are considered necessary for safe and effective cure of disease, but are not defining behaviours for a homoeopath.
brisbanehomoeopath 8 years ago

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