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Infant Reflux in 4 month old

My son has had reflux since 5 weeks, and my doctor doesn't want to medicate him at his age, which is perfectly fine with me after I did some research into PPIs. He had me start rice cereal to thicken his food and keep it down, and it worked until about 2 weeks ago. He has been vomiting up each and every bottle and has actually lost weight. I was recommended Nat Phos 6x and started it Friday. When I started the NP6, I quit giving him cereal in his bottles. His vomiting is better but he is still throwing up about 1/2 his bottles after he eats. I was told to place the tablet in his bottles, let it dissolve and then add the powdered formula. I just read another thread on here that that was wrong and I need to dissolve it in a syringe and give it to him directly AFTER eating. Is that correct? And am I to do it after each bottle? I had noticed a small difference with the way I was doing it, but if this was is the correct way, then I will start immediately and hope that this is what he needs. His last bottle came completely up, he is no longer acting as if he is in pain, but I need to know how to keep his food down. As he is already losing weight, I am desperate. I have also been told that nux vormica would be better for the vomiting aspect of reflux. Is this true? I can get some asap if so.


Please help!
 
  katyh on 2013-04-01
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
You may like to know that it is I that pioneered the Nat Phos 6x therapy you are using for your 4 month old baby and I am happy to learn that you have done so on your own, even before posting his problem with GERD till today.

I believe that the primary reason for his gastric imbalance is the fact that you are giving him solids too early in his short life. It is best to delay solids in a baby for a year and give the baby Breast Milk which is an essential part of a baby's feed. It is only if the mother does not produce sufficient milk that you can substitute formula but at 4 months it is best not to give solids as you have already seen the result.

Stop solids and start him off on milk, Breast or Formula.

I shall copy below my default therapy for Baby GERD


The remedies that have proved to be very effective for Baby GERD are:

Nat Phos 6x dose half tablet dissolved in milk given immediately after a feed.


You will STOP all other drugs prescribed for baby which as you have already seen have not done any good.

Please confirm that you burp baby immediately after each feed.

You will avoid eating all food that can cause any distress to baby.You must know that they are passed on to baby through your breast milk.

You (the mother) will take Nat Phos 6x dose 2 tablets after each of 3 meals daily and Arnica 30c in the Wet dose taken twice daily. The idea is that your milk will pass the effect to baby. You may like to know that this remedy will also help to reduce your weight by 1kg per week very safely.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.

Report progress in 24 hours on this thread .
 
Joe De Livera 7 years ago
I am so happy you responded, it was you who I was hoping would see this. I learned about the NP6 through a birth board and your name was mentioned as the go to for advice and the one who started the NP6 for reflux. Thank you so much!
I am happy to report that about 1.5 hours ago, I gave him a tablet dissolved in water AFTER he ate. He spit up maybe a tablespoon about 45 minutes after eating. I think this is what is going to work. I am wildly optimistic. He is now sleeping soundly and is content.
I was unable to produce breast milk, even after much help from LC's. I even tried mothers milk tea and it didn't work. So we have been using formula since 3 weeks old, when I quit producing anything at all to even supplement with.
I am aware of the fact he should not be on solids at this age, the rice in bottles is all he has had. I would have never done that if it wasn't recommended by the doctor to help keep the formula down. He hasn't had cereal since Friday, when I started the NP6X. I didn't want to use the usual reflux medicines in my 5 weeks old child and luckily my doctor felt the same way. He told me that he hates putting babies on adult medicines, etc. When I started the cereal, I was unaware of the Nat Phos, and I am still very new to homeopathy and I would have tried this months ago if I would have known. I am learning more and more about natural remedies, and I am excited about using some in the future.
I do have a question about your copy and paste response - I am to give a half tab after each feeding, I have been told that the maximum for infants is 3 whole tabs a day - is this true? Or can I give him a half tab after each feeding, exceeding 3 whole tablets?
Do I have to dissolve the tablet in milk - or can I dissolve it in water and give it to him that way? I also think it may be easier to let the tablet dissolve under his tongue. Is that okay or absolutely not? I have read that it's possible, but I would like to know for sure.
Luke is not a good burper, sometimes he won't - does that affect the nat phos, or what is the reasoning for him having to burp well?
I am so sorry for all the additional questions, but I want to do the safest and best thing for my son. I appreciate you taking the time to answer the millionth infant reflux post. :)
 
katyh 7 years ago
Glad that my therapy aka 'Joepathy' worked so very quickly and thank you for keeping me advised of baby's response. It is not common for the patient to report the response even when the advice is given with the best intentions by the consultant.

It is best to keep the NP6x to under a maximum of 8 half tablets / day and you will soon discover that baby will NOT want any at all as soon as his digestive system takes over. It is understood of course that you will NOT give him any solids simply because his digestive system is not sufficiently developed to do so.

You can dissolve the tablet in any convenient liquid.

It is my pleasure to treat babies even though I am now in my 84th year.
 
Joe De Livera 7 years ago
Update:

I have notice a change, but a very small change. He is still spitting up, but instead of large amounts at once, with crying - it's happening continuously and almost like a fountain. I have been giving a 1/2 tablet (in water) after every other feeding so I do not exceed 4 tablets in a day. I have also been only feeding him smaller amounts, closer together to not overfill his stomach. I am hoping that there is a bigger change tomorrow, but I am wondering now if the NP6 is what he needs. He has been diagnosed with acid reflux, but it was also explained to me that the reason he was spitting up so much (bringing the acid up) is because there is a muscle that is not fully developed in a lot of infants. Is the nat phos only treating the acid, and not helping with the actual act of vomiting?

He has been extremely fussy since yesterday, and clingy. Not happy unless being held, and screams once put down (but smiles as soon as he is picked up). He is teething (which I know can cause spitting up as well) and he is in a wonder week time frame. So I know that there are reasons to his unhappiness and I don't feel that he is experiencing pain when he vomits like he was before the NP6X. But what can I do to help him stop vomiting so much?
 
katyh 7 years ago
Increase the dosage to a full tablet of NP6x and report his response.

Yes, teething can also precipitate reflux. This problem will last only for a few days hopefully and as long as other systems are go, there is no reason to worry.

You can get Nux Vomica 6c in the Liquid Dilution but you will NOT use it till I decide that you must.
 
Joe De Livera 7 years ago
Stop giving it after 4 tablets right? I can report back after the 4th.
 
katyh 7 years ago
I wish that curing Baby GERD is that simple.

What I meant was to increase the half tablet to a full tablet as I felt that the half T was not sufficient to do its stuff.

In any case Nat Phos 6x is perfectly safe both for adults and babies.
 
Joe De Livera 7 years ago
I meant 4 tablets in 24 hours. LOL! I didn't mean to cure him :)

I don't want to give him too much - but then I've read its almost impossible to overdose on homeopathic meds.
 
katyh 7 years ago
I have been giving whole tablets today, and he is doing much, much better. He has spit up maybe 3 tablespoons total today.

I am hoping that tomorrow goes even better. I am happy with how the nat phos is working now that I am administering it correctly.

What do you recommend as far as weaning? How long can he take it before I need to wean him?
 
katyh 7 years ago
Glad to note that the whole tablet made the difference.

I am by nature conservative in my therapy and it is only when I find that any remedy needs to be increased that I decide to prescribe the higher dose.

Nat Phos 6x is very safe and you may continue to give it to baby till you find that you can reduce the dose to half tablet.
 
Joe De Livera 7 years ago
We've had a little more spit up today. Not too much, but after each time he ate and a little more at a time compared to yesterday. He's been very cranky and whiny, but he also had the shots yesterday and that would make me fussy myself. But I am continuing the NP6, and I know there are factors other than the reflux that is making him spit up today (vaccines, teething) so I am not losing faith. I think this is what is working, and am beyond happy with the difference I have seen in him since starting the Nat Phos. Thank you for all your help and I will continue to update daily.
 
katyh 7 years ago
It is obvious that his current reflux is due to the vaccines.

There is no reason to worry.
 
Joe De Livera 7 years ago

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