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Hi, just try giving him a half tab after a meal and
see what goes on.

Sometimes a remedy can have proving symptoms if
there is too many doses given. You actually want
to be able to reduce the doses bc that means he is
getting well and does not need as much.

You have to experiment and other mothers went
from a full tab for infants, to a half tab and then
from 5 times a day to 3 times a day to zero.
 
simone717 last decade
Hi,

Thanks so much for replying. I've skipped the lunch dose. After dinner I will give him just half a tab and see if the runny nose continues. We have seen such a great improvement at night that I'm afraid to not give it to him. However, his voice is still fluctuating so I know the reflux is not gone completely.

Thanks so much again.
 
bwill13 last decade
Hi, just want to give an update.

Well after experimenting with the dosage, I've learned two things. First, the Nat Phos was not causing the running nose. I actually believe it is fall allergies as he started to have itchy eyes and sneezing as well.

Secondly, when I lowered the dose from 2 tabs after lunch and dinner to 1/2 tab, his voice went back to being scratchy. In other words, he still needs the full dose. I'm just wondering how long it should be until I can start to lower the dose. He was on the full dose for a week, and then the 2nd week we were experimenting with the lower dose or not at all, which was not good for his sleep or his voice.

I've heard of people being cured by the Nat Phos and I hope that is still a possibility for my son.

Thanks, and if you have any input I would be glad to hear.
 
bwill13 last decade
I am not sure he still has reflux. Having allergies can make you have
a scratchy throat also.

On his diet-
is he off of:
Citrus fruit
Chocolate
spicy or fried or fatty food
peppermint
garlic/onions
Tomatoes

1.What is the discharge from his nose like? clear? white?
Are his eyes watering?
2.Has he ever had fall allergies previously?
3.What is the stool like? is he regular?
4. Describe his personality- is he outgoing, or quiet, does he like to move
around a lot or stay still and play, does he like to be consoled or carried
around, write a paragraph about him.
5. Is he in pre-school or day care, and how often?
6. What does he like as far as temperature?
7. What kind of food does he really like and not like?
8. Does he prefer warm or cold food/drinks?
9. How is his thirst?
10. what was his sleep like before the reflux began?
11. Is he afraid of anything like thunderstorms, other people, animals?
 
simone717 last decade
His diet is now free of all items on the list...and has been for atleast 3 weeks, probably 4.

1.) The discharge was clear and watery and never changed consistency. However he hasn't had it for the last two days.
2.) He has never had fall allergies before.
3.) His stool is regular. He typically goes once a day, day and 1/2 at most, sometimes twice a day.
4.) He is outgoing, hyper at times, but can play still if he is interested in something. He does like to be consoled.

He is a sensitive boy, emotional at times. Sometimes has trouble controlling his emotions (if he gets very upset, has hard time calming down). Loves people and says hi to everybody we see. I would say he likes to be in control of situations. Doesn't require a lot of sleep, and most people consider him an energizer bunny. My husband and I tire out before him. Has always been picky about food, and until recently never wanted to eat.

5.) He was never in day-care. I stay home with him. He just started preschool last week, Tuesday was his 1st day. Today was his second day. He will go Tues and Thurs for 3 hours from now on.
6.) I would consider him warm blooded, especially while sleeping. He will wake up sweaty with any sort of heavy blanket on him. His face gets red when he overheats.
7.)Since he started eating more, he really wants breads and sweet things. He has always liked dairy, and activity vanilla yogurt is his favorite thing to eat. Unfortunately, a lot of his favorite things to eat are on that list of items he can't have anymore, so we took away a lot of his favorite foods like (lemonade, spaghetti, ketchup, chocolate***,French dressing, etc). Like a typical child, isn't inclined to eat veggies but we do get him to eat carrots, and not the stems of broccoli steamed. Also, he won't eat whole fruit. Since he's been a baby he will only eat mashed fruit. He is very picky about food texture, and if he doesn't like the texture, he will gag.
8.)He doesn't seem to have a preference toward warm foods or drinks. He likes sugary juice boxes, which I no longer give him. He has watered down apple juice in the morning and then water for the rest of the day
9.) He seems to be hungrier than thirsty. I have to tell him to drink his water in between meals, because I don't want him drinking a lot with his meal.
10.) I do not know exactly when the reflux began, but he used to sleep in his own bed through the night, or wake up once and I would come down to console him back to sleep. Then he started waking up every hour crying like he was in pain, and I was in the early stages of a pregnancy so just started letting him come in my bed, due to my own fatigue.
11.) I am not aware of any fears to specific things.

I feel like until his sleep returns to normal, the reflux is still waking him up.
 
bwill13 last decade
Hi,

I would like you to try the remedy Allium Cepa 30c. It is at Whole Foods.
This is for the allergy, however it also has colic and throat hoarseness as
symptoms. It is made from the red onion.

Try doing 3 doses of this to see if there is any reaction. A dose is
3pills under the tongue. I would do this on a non school day and do
not do any of the nat phos on the day you try this.

Give him the first dose and then watch for 4 hours and see if anything is
better. If it is stop and wait until you see it is getting worse again.
If no reaction, then give another dose after the first 4 hours. Again
wait to see if there is any reaction and stop if there is and wait.
If nothing do the third dose 4 hours after that- if there is no reaction
then the remedy is wrong and another one should be tried.

Report back in the next day after you try this. Continue the nat phos till
you purchase this remedy.
 
simone717 last decade
Most homeopaths have experienced that a homeopathic medicine can cause a slight cold. This is the body's way of getting rid of various substances.

On the other hand, a cold, flu, can stop a homeopath treatment progress. This is because our imunesystem can only handle one 'disorder of time. When cold is gone, the homeopathic cure will continue.

However, do not give any more medicine before the cold is gone.

Parakletos.
 
Parakletos last decade
Simone,

Okay I will purchase the allium cepa. The only thing is, he won't let me put the tablets in his mouth (he doesn't like unknown textures and last time I tried to gagged).

Is there anyway I can give him a wet dose? By just dissolving them, or would I dissolve them and then give him just a little bit of the water?

Thanks
 
bwill13 last decade
The Allium Cepa is not tablets but tiny sugar pills that taste good.

You can take the three pills and put them into a tablespoon
of water and dissolve and then spoon it in or use a dropper.
My kids always liked the little pills, I had to hide them bc
they thought it was candy, so be aware of putting the tube
away where he can't find it.
 
simone717 last decade
Okay, I gave him the first dose of the allium today when he got home from school, because his nose has been really runny since last night.

One thing I did want to mention. I got him the garden of life probiotic, the RAW one for kids which also has a prebiotic. The weird thing is is that the few days I gave him the new probiotic, his voice was worse. I thought it was odd. Then I started thinking, what I meant when I said before that he might have a yeast overgrowth was a bacterial overgrowth.

Because I have read that GERD can be caused by interabdominal pressure that is caused by an overgrowth of bad bacteria. I was wondering if the prebiotic was perhaps feeding the bad bacteria and making him worse on those days?

Also, the last time he was on the axid was right after he had a 7 day round of antibiotics for a cellulitis/sinusitis and within 2 days his voice was back to normal, but only stayed that way for a few days. I think the bad bacteria may have been killed by the antibiotic, which reduced the pressure/reflux, which made his voice normal. However, within days the bad bacteria had grown back and the good bacteria had also been killed as well.

I think I should find a probiotic without a prebiotic and try that.

I'll see if there is any change today with the allium.
 
bwill13 last decade
Hi,

I think you have causes of things mixed up.

The gut has an ecosystem of all kinds of bacteria. The probiotics/prebiotics
put BACK bacteria that is missing to rebalance the ecosystem.

If he took antibiotics for sinus- then I hope the Dr. checked to see
if there was an actual infection-?? this can go on from ear infections etc.

To me, it seems that the Dr. was giving him antibiotics for infection.
It killed the infection and then the infection came back.
Even if it did not come back sinus and dripping nose etc due to
allergies-- make the nose start to make mucous. The mucous then
starts inflammation. The inflammation then cause the lining of the nose
to be more fragile and also in the sinus cavities. The lining gets thinner
and then--- bacteria can invade and start another sinus infection.
Meanwhile the mucous does drip into the stomach which is a cause of
Gerd- it make the stomach more acidic.

And then the digestive system can also be trying to overcome yeast bc
of the antibiotics which is a separate thing.

You want to get rid of the allergies to stop the cycle and get rid of
ear infections/sinus infections.

If you get the runny nose etc to stop then the body can heal itself and
not be getting drained fighting the sinus/allergy .
 
simone717 last decade
He got very sick while taking his first round of axid, after he was diagnosed with gerd, and he had the voice hoarseness as well as sleeping problems, stomachaches, etc.

Axid helped in the beginning for a few days, but never brought his voice all way back. And after it improved slightly, it just regressed. He got really sick with terrible fever, and had a lot of draining from his nose. Then the area next to his nose/under his eye puffed up pretty bad. DR. diagnosed him with cellulitis, I thought it was a sinus issue, but whatever. She 'highly recommended' antibiotics.

We gave him round for 7 days, she said to give axid one more shot. We started it the day after we finished antibiotics. Voice was normal in 2 days, for about 2 days, then slowly regressed.

SIBO, overgrowth of bad bacteria in the intestines, can cause gerd due to abdominal pressure. Antibiotics create an env for SIBO to occur. Combine that with reduced stomach acid from the axid, and I think the bad bacteria has just flourished.

I think I am at the point that I need to go to a ped gastroent. I just hate not being able to know how to help him.

I think the runny nose is a completely separate issue. I think the nat phos is helping him, but will not cure him. Thanks for your help.
 
bwill13 last decade
The Nat phos is much better than using Axid or other
medicines, so I would continue using that to control
the Gerd.

I agree that you should have him checked for the bacteria
problem. And I would use a probiotic that you like,
while doing any antibiotic treatment before and after.

The allergies can start due to low immune system so again
if Allium Cepa works to help there or the Kali Mur,
I would use that instead of allergy medicine which have
many side effects.

Good luck with all of this.

Simone717
 
simone717 last decade
Hi,

just wanted to give an update.

I wanted to first say that I do believe the runny nose was caused by allergies and not nat phos, because he has not taken the nat phos for a week and has pretty much had the runny nose the whole time.

I also had a cold, and he may have caught that within the last 5 days or so.

Anyway, we only tried the allium one time then we decided we were going to just stop giving him anything and see what happens.

I've been reading a lot about the paleo diet being able to help with gerd, so decided to cut out all processed sugar and grains/breads. I also started giving him a probiotic without a prebiotic (in case he did have an overgrowth of harmful bacteria).

Since we started the new diet (4 days ago)his voice has steadily become better. I am happy to say that today I would rate it at about 90-95%, which makes me so happy I could cry!

We will continue with the diet and probiotic and I am sure he will be 100% in no time. The allergies might still be an issue, but I will see how that goes.

Just wanted people to know that the nat phos does help with gerd, and depending on why you have gerd, it may cure you. This was not the case with my son, as nothing can take the place of a healthy diet. But it still provided him with relief.

Thanks to all who provided their knowledge!
 
bwill13 last decade
Thanks for posting, and congrats on healing
your child with the diet changes.

Best,

Simone717
 
simone717 last decade
Well actually, this is not a cure/healing, but relief of a symptom. The hope is that he grows out of it, that the body heals itself. (If not, he must have an appropriate homeopathic treatment)
 
Parakletos last decade
well I believe his gut flora was damaged to due all the antibiotics he was prescribed, and his unhealthy sugary/carb filled diet contributed to an imbalance in his gut.

Homeopathy does not cure/heal everything. I do believe in its power, but without proper nutrition, a homeopathy remedy wouldn't help either. Lifestyle choices/changes due contribute to our state of help.

For instance, I have tried to use homeopathy on myself a number of times, always trying to give it another change, but since I am very sensitive, I begin to prove the remedies before they can heal anything.
 
bwill13 last decade
Dear bwill,

on yourself - here are three reasons why that may be going on.

A. you have the wrong remedy
B. your sensitivity requires that you do a water dose or a split dose.
see the site http://www.drluc.com for homeopathy basics
C. You have what is called- Block to the cure- something else is going
on that won't let remedies work correctly and that has to be investigated
what that could be.
 
simone717 last decade
I was actually working with a very skilled homeopath and after the first dose,when I experienced extreme aggravation, I only used water doses.

I'm not sure why I seem to prove. I am currently 8 months pregnant, and tried homeopathy for the first time when I was just a few days pregnant (I did not know at the time). This is when I aggravated very badly. Then, after I found out I was pregnant, I tried a few more times with water doses and did not aggravate, but proved soon after taking.

I don't know if being pregnant could have made me more sensitive or what, but at this point I just chalked it up to the fact that I am one of those few people who will always prove. Thanks,

Brittany
 
bwill13 last decade
Brittany,
you may have had the wrong remedy choices made for you.
If you aggravate and then prove the remedy, it is either
wrong or the potency is wrong. Don't label yourself as
a person who will always prove, I have had the same
happen to me from homeopaths-also skilled- they were
choosing the wrong remedy.

I have given myself the right remedy many times on acute
things, such as sudden flu after being outside and take
aconite and the flu was gone in one hour. Acute things
are based on your specific sudden symptoms, not
all the rest of the mental and physical components so it is
easier for a person to self prescribe. If you ever bruise
or bump yourself and use Arnica cream or pills- ( not while
pregnant tho) you can see how fast it works.
 
simone717 last decade

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