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Dear Joe
Will be starting the remedy from tonight but need to know couple of things:

1)The bottle needs to be potensised everytime before the dose is given.
2)Can he take other areated drinks besides coke as you had mentioned in one of your earlier posts that coke,ham and bacon should be avoided but what about other aereated drinks.
3)Besides ars 200 ,which is given to open the airways what can be given to my son in case he does start to have a bout of dry,deep and spasmodic cough with white phelgm.I will repaet his cough is mostly dry .I need an answer to this question as i need to keep the med. with me so that when i wean him off inhalers and if he does have an attack ,i can immidiately start with the remedy and also during that time should nat sulph be continued.I will keep you poste regularly.

Brgds
Shiny
 
shiny last decade
Dear Shiny,

I was wondering why you were so strangely silent for a few days when you usually were present on a daily basis before.

I can now see that you had some difficulty in getting the remedies.

Answering your questions:

Yes you must shake the bottle hard 10 times before you give him a teaspoonful direct from the bottle. This increases the potency of the remedy and helps to cure the ailment better. You will use the Nat Suph with the usual remedies that you are now using including the inhaler but you should discover that in under a week on the Nat Sulph his condition will improve vastly when you will discontinue the inhaler and use Arrs 200 instead

The Ars 200 is NOT to be used for his cough. This is a remedy which is to be used only on a SOS basis if he cannot breathe with an attack. This is the scenario when you use the inhaler.

For his wet cough you can use Hepar Sulph 30c in the wet dose twice daily. This remedy usually helps but if it does not we can use another after you report response.

The Nat Sulph is his chief remedy which he will use for some months in the future. The Ars Alb is for SOS treatment. The Hepar Sulph is for the cough.

He should also use steam inhalation to soften the phlegm. Physiotherapy may also be necessary if the phlegm does not reduce in a few day and this can be done by placing the boy across a bed face down with pillows under his chest which is then tapped by you with your palm open to dislodge the pockets of phlegm in his lungs. You will be surprised to discover the amount of phlegm that will be brought up by this simple process.

Please keep in contact with a daily report.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe
Thanks a lot but you still haven't replied to my question whether my son can have other aereated drinks other than coke.
How can a wet dose be prepared.

Shiny
 
shiny last decade
I do not recommend that anyone drinks canned or bottled aerated or fizzy beverages. I believe you live in New Delhi where I am sure you can get bottled spring water there if your own ground water is not up to standard.

The reason for my position is because all bottled drinks have various chemical additives and sugar or in the case of the diet types Aspartame which can have serious side effects that can affect people in the long run. In the case of your son who is afflicted with Asthma for some time I would suggest that you do not encourage him to drink bottled or canned time bombs that can affect him and make his present condition even worse.

I live in Colombo and we use our own ground water from a well in my garden that draws its springs from the 30 acre park located right opposite my residence and the water is absolutely pure. I consider myself very fortunate in having our own water supply instead of drinking the water from the Kelani river that flows through Colombo whose waters are tapped upstream but after flowing about 100 km from the hills. It is true that the water is processed but the chemical pollution is high although it is potable.

I would suggest you identify a company who can supply the large 25lt bottles of water which you can give him and your family. Otherwise I would recommend that you boil and filter your tap water which is the better alternative to all fizzy drinks.

It also occurs to me that you might consider keeping him off milk, red meat and shell fish as these foods have also been known to trigger asthma.

A wet dose is made by inserting 2 drops if you have the remedy in Ethanol or 3 pellets of the remedy in a 500ml bottle of spring water. The bottle is succussed every time before each dose. Succuss=shaking hard to generate bubbles.

A dose is a teaspoon which in the case of Nat Sulph is one teaspoonful per day which is given directly poured out from the bottle. After he stabilizes we can change the dose to the Split dose method where the teaspoonful from the bottle is mixed into half cup of water from which a teaspoonful is given to him. This procedure is repeated with every dose.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
In an earlier post, Joe wrote:

'Cap the bottle tightly and succuss it 4-6 times by shaking the bottle in your hand to aerate the water.'
 
Pat2006 last decade
Dear Joe
We also have a reverse osmosis water purification system at home which is as good as packaged drinking water.Most of the good brands who sell bottled water like aquafina,kingfisher in New delhi use reverse osmosis ,so if you say i will use that water to prepare remedy instead of packaged water.

Shiny
 
shiny last decade
Your reverse osmosis water is OK but its purity will depend on the age of the 2 or 3 filter elements used in the process.

Go ahead and give your son the Nat Sulph 6c as instructed as I and many others who are interested in this case would like to know if it can help him as it has helped so many others who were far more chronic Asthmatics than him.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe
Wanted to update you on my son's progress on nat sulph.

06th May:Took nat sulph in the afternoon straight from the bottle.First day off steroid inhaler.Slept peacefuuly at night.

07th May:Second day .Again slept beautifully.Keeping my fingers crossed.It's too early to say anything cause it could also be the effect of the inhaler.But anyway two nights without nocturnal attacks.

Thanks Joe.
Brgds
Shiny
 
shiny last decade
I am happy to note that your son whose case all of us were following from the time of your first post on March 26, has shown improvement on the 2 days you gave it to him. I am delighted to learn that you did not find it necessary to use his inhaler which i presume you have been using for a very long time as you stated on a nightly basis, merely to enable him to sleep.


You will remember that I prescribed Nat Sulph 6c on the same day you first posted his problem, but you decided not to give it to him due perhaps to the fact that I did not have any formal Homeopathic qualifications which others may have, or at least pretend to have.

I have been alerted by the daily emails that are sent automatically and it is just that I could not bear to see your boy suffering that I made the final effort a few days ago to alert you to stop his suffering and use Nat Sulph 6c which as you now see, has shown results almost immediately it was used.

I might mention here that your boy's response has been the fastest that has been reported to me so far, and I hope and pray that this improvement will continue in the future. His case which can be considered as Most Chronic, has obviously been treated by a long list of MD's and later by Homeopaths without any success up to just 2 days ago and it has culminated in this dramatic result which may yet not continue.

I am confident however that it will and all of us who read this post will pray for it to continue to help him.

Please remember that in the unlikely event that he has difficulty in breathing with an attack, you are cleared to use the Ars Alb 200 in just one dose of 4 pellets under the tongue and this will clear his airway within 20 minutes.

Please keep us informed in a daily post as you have done in the past as we all wish your son a speedy recovery. I am confident that he should be free of his Asthma within perhaps a month and it may be necessary that we change him in a few days to the Split Dose where you take a teaspoonful of the remedy from the bottle and mix it into half cup of water from which a teaspoonful is sipped by the patient.

You have experienced another Miracle of Homeopathy which I have used in the non classical manner to help a chronic Asthmatic by treating the ailment directly instead of beating about the proverbial bush in the classical way, and I hope that the classical homeopathic fraternity who may read this post will please take note.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe
It's not as if i chose to ignore your remedy,but it's just that not many people have come up and posted their response on this forum except perhaps Fahed .Since i wanted to use it on my son i just kept waiting for someone to post the response of it's use on children which i finally did when Gino12 did .It gave me courage to use it on my son and i am positive that it will cure my son.Thanks for all your help and i will keep you posted regularly.

Brgds
Shiny
 
shiny last decade
Shiny

I am so very happy that your son is responding to the Nat sulph.

I will continue to pray for your son as I have been doing.

I find it interesting that you trusted Magicure and not Joe. Magicure has no success posts here whatsoever of any sort.

Joe has more succes stories here and you trusted him less.

It is understandable that you think this way. Stress and pressure makes us all think this way. And your stress level is clearly visible to me. And stress can be overwhelming when it comes to a mother's own child.

Today, I won't be able to sleep from too much excitement. I will pray for you and your son that things continue in this way in a permanent manner.
 
Pat2006 last decade
Dear Pat
I have noticed your interest in my posts but chose to stay away from your warfare with magiccure cause that would not have helped my son and that was certainly not what i needed at that point of time.Thanks a lot for praying for him as wanting things for oneself is understandable but praying for somebody else's child is applaudable.I am keeping my fingers crossed and hoping recovery of my son.
God Bless you
Brgds
Shiny
 
shiny last decade
Shiny

I am sorry that you misunderstood me. My intention was not to be in a war with him or with anyone here.

I am very concerned for your son.

I hope that eventually you come to understand that I am not a fighter but someone who cares deeply about others and only want what is best for them.

Take care
 
Pat2006 last decade
Dear Joe
Day Three went off well ,no nocturnal complaints so far.During daytime also he seems to be perfectly allright.Don't want to start thanking you so early .So will post in a week's time .

Thanks
Brgds
Shiny
 
shiny last decade
Shiny,

I am very glad that your boy is now able to enjoy uninturrupred sleep without his Asthma bothering him as it has been for some years (?).

I hope that other more experienced homeopaths especially the classical type will please take note that there is indeed method in my madness in the manner that I use for prescribing for the ailment directly instead of pretending to take the case and come up with some abstruse remedy which has usually no bearing on the ailment.

As I have stated before it is not impossible that your boy may yet have a relapse of his asthma and if he does reach the stage when he should use his inhaler, feel free to use the Ars Alb 200 pellets which you must always have with you and also with him when he goes to school.

I feel confident that the combination of the remedy and the prayers that those of us who believe in prayer and will be offering for him will all jointly help him to recover which at this present rate, I project that he will be OK and not need any remedy in under 6 months.

As I have stated before, I would like to consider reducing his dosage from the teaspoonful direct from the bottle to mixing it in a half cup of water but this is for later.

In the meanwhile I would appreciate if you will please keep us informed every other day or immediately if he suffers from a relapse, when you know what you should do on a SOS basis.

I note your comments about thanking me and would like to tell you that I do not expect any thanks from you or anyone whom I have helped to recover from their ailment. It is my pleasure to have been of service especially in a case such as this which has been attended to by homeopaths who I presume are qualified, unlike me, and rigidly follow the methods they have been brainwashed into accepting, which unfortunately as they will perhaps now realize, do not always work.

Joe De Livera
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe
Another two days without asthma symptoms.Just cuple of sneezes in the morning immidiately after waking up.Otherwise throughout the day he is doing great.

Thanks
Brgds
Shiny
 
shiny last decade
Thanks be to God !
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Shiny !
You will still need Arsenic Alb. or Arsenic Iodide for urticaria.
With Nat. Sulph that will not go away completely.
Ask Magicure ...since he has been with this case from start.

Best wishes,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Hello Magicure !!

Are you male or female ??
Thanks
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Pankaj,

Don't you think that we had better let the Asthma from which this boy has been suffering for a long time be first stabilized by the Nat Sulph 6c before we attempt to deal with the Urticaria ?

As you see the Nat Sulph I prescribed seems to have helped this case so far successfully, when all the other remedies that were prescribed by other homeopaths have failed.

I remember that some homeopaths who were treating this case even scoffed at my attempt to open Shiny's eyes as I noticed that she was using Ars Alb far too frequently.

He replied as follows on April 11:

'i would not advocate the idea of using nat sulph

your son is showing good results with the treatment that we have started, and he will continue to improve.

giving nat sulph 6c for every asthma patient on earth is not homoeopathy. there is something called as indivisualisation, which is the basic principle of this science.'

It is my hope that this same homeopath who pontificated with his remedies which he insisted were the only remedies to cure this child, will perhaps now open his eyes to the reality of using the remedy which has proved to be very effective in the treatment of Asthma which many have warned me is not an ailment to be toyed with as other more serious ailments may result like Eczema.

In this case as you stated the child is already suffering from Urticaria which I shall hope to treat with Arnica 6c when I feel that it can be used safely but for the moment I would prefer not to interfere with the ongoing cure of the Asthma which hopefully should stabilize shortly.

It will be noted that when the mother Shiny finally decided to use Nat Sulph 6c in the split dose which was given in the afternoon for the first time, her son slept soundly for the first time in perhaps years and continues to do so since last Saturday which is now 6 consecutive days.

This is the reason why I have always advocated the direct approach in homeopathy when the disease is treated with the remedy that is known to help in the curative process.

I do hope that other homeopaths and members who read this post will remember that my direct approach has invariably helped to cure an ailment in a far shorter time frame than the classical method that homeopaths who have degrees in homeopathy insist can only be used to cure their patients successfully.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe,
I am neither undermining your efforts nor importance.

I am just stating the obvious...where there is asthama...there is skin problem. The two go hand in hand.

Nat. Sulph wud improve breathing...but to remove the cause totally...will have to use a deeper acting medicine...that will also take away urticaria.
Best regards,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Dear Pankaj and Joe
Thanks for taking interest in my child's case as you can see that it hasn't been an easy one so far.As far as urticaria goes it is not bad at all.Only if he scratches a particular area it swells up a little bit .The urge to itch is not there anymore.However i would obviously like him to get over both the ailments completely.
A question what would you suggest for occasional dry cough .My son cough's occasionally maybe 3-4 times a day.Short,dry coughs .

Brgds
Shiny
 
shiny last decade
Dear Shiny,

As I stated above in my reply to Pankaj, I would prefer to let your son recover from the after effects of all the steroids and drugs that were prescribed for his Asthma which is his chief complaint.

You have already seen that the Nat Sulph 6c that I prescribed to you in March was the only remedy that has helped him positively so far and it is always best to be patient and not push the curative process too far. You may wonder why I did not prescribe the Nat Sulph say twice daily as you may feel that it may heal him faster but this is not Homeopathy.

I have often been marked in homeopathic circles as a maverick and I believe that I can come under this definition because I do not subscribe to the conventional method of diagnosis and treatment of an ailment as I have discovered that other methods can be used with standard Homeopathic remedies to bring about a positive response from the patient in a record time. I was certain of the end result of using a remedy like I did for your son and it was my inner conviction that made me virtually plead with you to use this remedy which as you have experienced has had the desired result. I do not believe in constitutional remedies which the 'classical' homeopaths fish out of their hats and you have ample evidence of how these so called constitutional remedies have helped your son.

I would not like to use any other remedy for a few weeks till we are quite certain that his Asthma is fully under control and we can then start him on Arnica 6c as I stated above which is again my default remedy for Eczema which I believe may help his Urticaria which is a related ailment. Arnica helps by stimulating the blood supply in the body and I have often used it for desperate cases of Eczema and other ailments with some remarkable success.

Please do not however jump the gun and give it to him as there is some chance of it antidoting the Nat Sulph.

As for your concern about his dry cough, I believe that is due to his Asthma and will soon clear up on its own. Many remedies can be used for his cough but I am not comfortable in using any one as it may set his Asthma off again.

Remember that Asthma has always been accepted as a very difficult ailment to be cured but the method that I use of the wet dose which I shall soon instruct to modify to the Split Dose when he is more stabilized, is the real secret of my success in the treatment of this ailment which very few homeopaths, classical or otherwise will be able to emulate.

I do hope that these same classical homeopaths will at least now, after they have seen the efficacy of this remedy, consider using Nat Sulph 6c in the wet dose for any asthmatic patients that they treat instead of using the selection of remedies that were prescribed and used by you for your son with no positive result.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Shiny !
Arsenic Alb. works for 40 to 60 days ...so wouldn't be surprised that benefit of it is still there. To say that Nat. Sulph. did all the job...not sure.

I say this even at the risk of annoying my friend Joe...but better to paint true picture.

Best wishes,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Pankaj,

No you have not annoyed me by any means. This is an open forum and the thoughts of all are welcome as we are all dedicated to help suffering humanity.

You may notice that I too prescribed Ars Alb 200 to be used only on a SOS basis when the effect is usually plainly visible in under 20 minutes when the patient who cannot breathe finds that he is able to breathe again freely.

I have also noticed that unless this temporary relief is reinforced with the Nat Sulph 6c that the patient will soon be in problems again, as in the case of this boy, when with the next attack he will discover that the Ars Alb that cleared his chest in a few minutes on the first occasion, may not do so on so on the next and he may have to be nebulized.

It is the cure that both remedies the Nat Sulph and the Ars Alb jointly establish that must be remembered as the Ultimate Cure For Asthma. This is the reason why I use it as my default remedy in spite of the open criticism that I often am subjected to.

If the Nat Sulph 6c does not have a positive response as it has done in this case within about 9 hours after the first dose, I then use my Radar to identify the next remedy for which this software is of great assistance after taking the other symptoms and modalities into consideration.

I do not have any evidence that the Ars Alb works for 40-60 days and frankly I do not believe that Shiny will be interested in waiting all that time to await the cure. In any case she had been using this remedy quite liberally at the request of the homeopath who was handling this case for some time and I hope she realized that she was using Arsenic, potentized homeopathically and rendered quite safe, although still the powerful poison.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe,
There are books that give you time period upto which a homeopathic med keeps giving result.
Best,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade

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