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A 14 year old boy Shabaz, who hid a dog bite for over a month from his parents out of fear, died of rabies 2 days back. A few days ago the child started showing symptoms of rabies. Only then the family members brought him to the hospital for his treatment. However, he died during the treatment. Just wondering could homeopathy saved his life? Thoughts are welcome.Ziomih on 2023-09-08
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Sharing some passages from the book The Materia Medica of the Nosodes. By Henry Clay ALLEN, M. D., under chapter LYSSIN (Hydrophobinum; saliva of a rabid dog), for your reference.
(It was a middle-sized, chestnut-brown terrier, not more than two or three years old, a female, with puppies of two or three months old. It had been bitten ten days before (17th August) in the street by a running dog, which was biting all around, and had been killed soon afterwards as mad. The owner, in trying to save his terrier, had beaten the strange dog with a stick after it had killed one of the puppies, and had already taken hold of another. The mother, in defending her young ones, had received three bloody wounds. She carried the dead one in her mouth from the street home into the yard. Since that she was somewhat changed, but continued to nurse the remaining puppies, one of which had received a bite. She had been otherwise true to her nature until the previous day (Aug. 26th), when she had commenced snapping and biting her young. The master had then suspected her, and kept her in the yard, tied by a rope ; and several times she had been biting and trying to loosen herself. She soon grew worse and commenced to bite at everything. Her voice was entirely altered. On the 26th of August, in the evening, she had commenced to howl in a peculiar way and to run against the doors. She shook her head a great deal, and scraped the ground with her fore feet ; and afterwards turned her head in a strange way. She put her mouth into the water placed before her, as if she was trying to swallow but could not.
When seen on August 27th she was furious ; snapping and biting, had a wild look, injected red eyes, frothy saliva around the mouth, and seemed evidently to be in the last stage of the disease. An empty flour-barrel was, from behind, put over her ; and, in order to make it possible to secure some of the saliva, the barrel was lifted on one side until the dog, in trying to escape, put out her head, between the edge of the barrel and the ground. She seemed to be in convulsive motions, as from anger or fury ; but while a quill was used to get as much of the saliva as possible out of her mouth and from her teeth (part to be put into milk sugar and part into alcohol), the motions lessened and the dog lay quiet and exhausted, breathing quick and short, with eyes closed. While the quill was still held in her mouth, and while the baker had hold of the barrel, the dog suddenly sprang up, snapping and trying to get on to its feet ; but the owner prevented its escape. After enough had been collected, the dog was allowed to withdraw its head ; and by a heavy weight was secured under the barrel. After a box had been prepared, the dog was brought into it by means of the rope, and thus transported, with both puppies to my house.
Next morning the mother was dead, and no permission given by the inmates to make a post mortem. Both the young ones were returned to the master ; and even the bitten one remained well. They were given to inhale in the evening some of the 6th centesimal potency, just prepared. Of course, a true Hahnemannian never draws his conclusions, as the slanderers have said : post hoc ergo propter hoc, nor even the equally foolish ; it followed, but could not have been caused by it.
The saliva obtained in the aforesaid way was on the same day triturated ; one drop with one hundred grains of milk sugar, and, exactly according to Hahnemanns method, carried to the 3d centesimal ; and, by the aid of some water and alcohol, further by alcohol alone, up to the 6th centesimal and later to the 30th.
From the tincture of the saliva put in alcohol, some weeks after, one drop was also potentized in the usual way for the purpose of comparative experiments. All the rest, collected on split pieces of quill for inoculation, was one night clandestinely taken by the lady of the house and thrown into the fire.
All this has been related in its particulars as an advice to others, who may have a chance to get saliva from another dog. It might be of some use to get it from a male for comparison.
Symptoms were observed during the hours of trituration, as there had been triturating the Lachesis poison, and they were afterwards corroborated by provings with the lower ; the very peculiar feelings of apprehension became so intolerable that the higher were preferred in further provings. Nothing was written for publication in the Archives until May, 1834. This was printed in the beginning of 1836, Archives, 15, I., p. 33.)
[Edited by JustSayin2 on 2023-09-09 06:35:55]
(It was a middle-sized, chestnut-brown terrier, not more than two or three years old, a female, with puppies of two or three months old. It had been bitten ten days before (17th August) in the street by a running dog, which was biting all around, and had been killed soon afterwards as mad. The owner, in trying to save his terrier, had beaten the strange dog with a stick after it had killed one of the puppies, and had already taken hold of another. The mother, in defending her young ones, had received three bloody wounds. She carried the dead one in her mouth from the street home into the yard. Since that she was somewhat changed, but continued to nurse the remaining puppies, one of which had received a bite. She had been otherwise true to her nature until the previous day (Aug. 26th), when she had commenced snapping and biting her young. The master had then suspected her, and kept her in the yard, tied by a rope ; and several times she had been biting and trying to loosen herself. She soon grew worse and commenced to bite at everything. Her voice was entirely altered. On the 26th of August, in the evening, she had commenced to howl in a peculiar way and to run against the doors. She shook her head a great deal, and scraped the ground with her fore feet ; and afterwards turned her head in a strange way. She put her mouth into the water placed before her, as if she was trying to swallow but could not.
When seen on August 27th she was furious ; snapping and biting, had a wild look, injected red eyes, frothy saliva around the mouth, and seemed evidently to be in the last stage of the disease. An empty flour-barrel was, from behind, put over her ; and, in order to make it possible to secure some of the saliva, the barrel was lifted on one side until the dog, in trying to escape, put out her head, between the edge of the barrel and the ground. She seemed to be in convulsive motions, as from anger or fury ; but while a quill was used to get as much of the saliva as possible out of her mouth and from her teeth (part to be put into milk sugar and part into alcohol), the motions lessened and the dog lay quiet and exhausted, breathing quick and short, with eyes closed. While the quill was still held in her mouth, and while the baker had hold of the barrel, the dog suddenly sprang up, snapping and trying to get on to its feet ; but the owner prevented its escape. After enough had been collected, the dog was allowed to withdraw its head ; and by a heavy weight was secured under the barrel. After a box had been prepared, the dog was brought into it by means of the rope, and thus transported, with both puppies to my house.
Next morning the mother was dead, and no permission given by the inmates to make a post mortem. Both the young ones were returned to the master ; and even the bitten one remained well. They were given to inhale in the evening some of the 6th centesimal potency, just prepared. Of course, a true Hahnemannian never draws his conclusions, as the slanderers have said : post hoc ergo propter hoc, nor even the equally foolish ; it followed, but could not have been caused by it.
The saliva obtained in the aforesaid way was on the same day triturated ; one drop with one hundred grains of milk sugar, and, exactly according to Hahnemanns method, carried to the 3d centesimal ; and, by the aid of some water and alcohol, further by alcohol alone, up to the 6th centesimal and later to the 30th.
From the tincture of the saliva put in alcohol, some weeks after, one drop was also potentized in the usual way for the purpose of comparative experiments. All the rest, collected on split pieces of quill for inoculation, was one night clandestinely taken by the lady of the house and thrown into the fire.
All this has been related in its particulars as an advice to others, who may have a chance to get saliva from another dog. It might be of some use to get it from a male for comparison.
Symptoms were observed during the hours of trituration, as there had been triturating the Lachesis poison, and they were afterwards corroborated by provings with the lower ; the very peculiar feelings of apprehension became so intolerable that the higher were preferred in further provings. Nothing was written for publication in the Archives until May, 1834. This was printed in the beginning of 1836, Archives, 15, I., p. 33.)
[Edited by JustSayin2 on 2023-09-09 06:35:55]
JustSayin2 7 months ago
Certainly, Hydrophobinum is an effective remedy for this situation. Its possible that it could have been a life-saving intervention in the final moments. I had a conversation with my professor, who shared a case from a decade ago in which a patient was treated using Hydrophobinum and Hypericum, and that patient is now living a healthy life. But, the major problem is that people typically do not seek the assistance of a homeopath in such conditions.
On September 1, when the boy started showing abnormal behavior and stopped eating, his family became aware that something was wrong. After some inquiry, he disclosed to his parents that their neighbors dog had bitten him. The family promptly took him to a hospital. Unfortunately, he passed away on September 4.
On September 1, when the boy started showing abnormal behavior and stopped eating, his family became aware that something was wrong. After some inquiry, he disclosed to his parents that their neighbors dog had bitten him. The family promptly took him to a hospital. Unfortunately, he passed away on September 4.
Ziomih 7 months ago
Had a chat with some allopaths. Once signs of rabies appear, the disease is nearly always fatal and treatment is mainly supportive. Though, in 2005 Jeanna Giese Became the first person to have survived rabies after being treated with the Milwaukee Protocol. It requires the brain to be shut off forcing the patient into a drug-induced coma as the rabies virus hijacks the brain to cause the damage. This gives time for the immune system to fight against the virus. In Jeannas case, when she woke up she had to learn how to read, walk, write and even speak all over again. Not the best result but at least she lived. So Homeopathy is definitely an option to consider.
Ziomih 7 months ago
Sharing a quote( Dr. May , virologist )
(dilution does not break down the rabies virus on a molecular level, so there’s a chance that even if a million doses contain nothing harmful, one could contain an intact, live virus. So you hope you don’t get that one,”).
Whats your thought on this?
(dilution does not break down the rabies virus on a molecular level, so there’s a chance that even if a million doses contain nothing harmful, one could contain an intact, live virus. So you hope you don’t get that one,”).
Whats your thought on this?
Ziomih 6 months ago
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