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Dear Pankaj, John, Joe and Pat,
I am confused.
I started with Joe's recommendations because it seems logical to first get my husband to sleep and rest. because many symptoms are not related to his type and are driven from his tiredness. and after that to start the actual treatment.

Do you think I should not do the arnica and the nat phos ?

Joe? how do you feel about Pankaj and John's recomendations ?

I am realy confused guys, how am I to decide?

Pat, you seem to have expirience with this forum, what would you do if you were me. No sure how long, husband will work with me on that.

I gave my husband arnica 30c last night . he didnt take xanax, but then he woke up in the middle of the night and couldnt fall back asleep. so he took xanax.
I gave him another arnica this morning. He is at work - very tired and seems depressed. He didn't have coffee today which can contribute of course to that feeling.
John - He is reading this thread since last night. i printed it all for him.
Also he promised today to schedule EKG and blood tests.

One last question - do i refrigirate the water bottle with the arnica ?

Help me out here, what do I do next ?


Worried wife.
LovingMom last decade
Let me add, That this forum is the only help I can get at the moment. I don't know what the qualifications of people giving me advise or who are they.
BUT I DO KNOW that I read previous threads by them and was impressed with all of you people, responses, treatment and care.

My husband and I spent thousands of dollars on classical homeopathy in the past 4 years that helped only very little. We realize it was a mistake spending all this money on the classical approach. but now its too late. we are at a point we cannot spend any more consultation fees. so we came for help to this forum.
I appreciate all of you out there wanting to help. but I didn't know I will get different recomendations and that I will have to choose between them.

I am not qualified and don't have the tools to know how to choose.

I would love to hear what you have to say, and then I will consult with my husband and we will decide how to proceed.

Again, we are very thankful for all the care, attention and advise, from all of you people.

I will wait for your posts before talking to my husband.
Thank you so much,

Worried wife
LovingMom last decade
no confusion--follow joe's -or pankaj's advice...if doesnt work out then post back---i prefer that way..
John Stanton last decade

Use your intuition.

Go with what feels right to you right now.

Remedies work like this. You give it a try and if it feels like it is not working or it has served its purpose you move on to something else.

Homeopathy normally works FAST and should not take 4 years.

When I got into homeopathy, I new absolutely nothing about it. I had had a couple of experiences that made me believe it was a big hoax, but thank goodness I forgot all about those experiences.

But what made me finally call and make an appointment was that one morning I woke up completely caught off guard with an inspiration that told me this was going to be a cure. That it was something that didn't require taking pills or stuff every day. The words CURE and NOT EVERY DAY what was shocking and surprising to me. So I called my homeoapth and made an appointment right away.

Go with what feels right to you. Listen to the little voice in your head. Praying works too.

But don't discount anyone's advice because everyone here has something to offer.

I am just making sure that while in the midst of your anxiety and stress that you don't miss anything.

My intuition with regards to your husband is that making some changes in diet right now is very important possibly even more than homeopathy,

Homeopathy is magical but we all have to make some effort with regards to our health. We cannot continue to eat unhealthy and abuse our bodies and then expect homeopathy or something or someone to fix us.

At this time, me personally not knowing too much about homeoapthy, I use Joe De Livera's methods as a default. But as I learn more I will also go in the direction towards pankaj and John.

I originally told you about Arnica as something to do in the meantime if no one else here answered.

Other homeopaths here do the same thing. They use Arnica as a default if nothing else works or something to do in the meantime.

I also pray for my homepaths to be inspired and guided by God so that they can help me. I pray for them nightly. I give thanks to them and ask God to keep them healthy.
Pat2006 last decade
Thank you Pat!
That was inspiring. OK, I think you made the decision easy. I just need to confirm with husband.

all the best!
LovingMom last decade

My husband read the thread and happy to recieve help. he is commited to try his best to work with your recomendations.
I asked him to report on how he is doing. Here is the email from work i just recieved from him:
Last night after you gave me the remedy, I was very peaceful and exhausted. I was able to fall asleep seconds after you closed the door. I awoke at 1:00am and by 1:35am was concerned about not falling asleep so took .25 of a xanax. Today I am very very tired but probably helped by not having drank coffee for the first time in years.

I am not depressed but I do not have any drive either.


Worried wife
LovingMom last decade
Hello lovingmom

I had removed myself from my computer to go have my lunch, but left my plate unfinished to ask you if you could please contact me at my e-mail.

Click on my screen name and it will take you to it.

Thank you
Pat2006 last decade

I read in another thread that I need to shake the bottle before each dose . is that the case here too ?

I already shook it too many times the first time... I posted a comment about this before.

LovingMom last decade
Hello lovingmom

Yes, It suppose to be shaken at least 6 times, but Joe will get back to you on this. Sometimes he says 10 and sometimes 6 and I don't know which is the one he wants you to use.

And yes your Arnica bottle should be kept in the refrigerator. In my experience it does get spoiled. If you can avoid drinking out of the bottle direclty that would help too. So if you can, measure out a teaspoon.
Pat2006 last decade
Should both wife and husband be taking a remedy to help them with stress?
Pat2006 last decade
At what time in the night he gets up? Same time every night?

During day he is tired...fore noon, noon or afternoon??
Arnica will only give him some additional energy...but complete cure will come with other meds...you and your husband decide what you want to do.

Giving too many meds confuses reg. emerging symptoms and many times the approriate med does not get time to work on the person.

Has he got flatulence too?
Best wishes,
Pankaj Varma
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
To Lovingmom

As I see it today your husband's immediate need is to get over his dependence on coffee to which he is obviously addicted.

I agree with Pankaj's idea of using
Nux Vomica 200 in one dose to detoxify him and this can be taken in the dry pellets, 4 under the tongue.

The Nat Phos 6x biochemic cell salt which you must get soon will help his digestion and stop the acidity which I believe is the main cause of his insomnia. He is advised to have an early dinner at least 2 hours before he goes to bed. He will take 2 tablets of Nat Phos immediately after the meal.

He will take a teaspoonful of the Arnica 30c which is shaken 10 times and I am confident that he should sleep soundly. It is understood of course that his dinner will be light and not comprise any red meat or otherwise difficult to digest protein. As I indicated before, fish at night will help as it is easily digestible. The red rice is another food that will be difficult to digest and is best avoided at night.

I am confident that he will be well on the road to recovery in a week after he starts on the therapy.

You may like to know that many who used Nat Phos 6x for weight reduction have confirmed that it also helps them to sleep deeply. I believe that the joint action of the Arnica and the Nat Phos will be the answer to his prayer.

Please impress on him that we are all trying to put him back on the rails and he must cooperate by not drinking coffee in the future for life and if he also smokes he must stop it.

You may also like to know that Arnica 30c has helped chronic smokers to quit smoking and it is possible that it may also help the craving for that next cup of coffee.

If I have left out any answer to your queries please feel free to ask.
Joe De Livera last decade
To Pankaj:

yes he has lots of flatulence.
I have to ask him if he gets up at the same time every night - but that will be tomorrow morning since he is already in bed.
LovingMom last decade
to Joe De Livera:

I am ordering the Nux Vomica immediatley. i should be able to get it in 2 business days. the nat phos should arrive tomorrow morning.

Is the Nux Vomica given only once and that's it ?
Should it be taken during the day? away from the other remedies ?

Please explain.

Thank you all very much.
LovingMom last decade
to Joe:
the shaking of the bottle (sorry I am asking so many questions about it) - is it only the first time when I prepare the bottle - or do i shake it each time before I give my husband the remedy ?

LovingMom last decade

The Pulsatilla 200c you said to have on hand - is it Pulsatilla Nigricans or Pulsatilla Nuttaliana ?
LovingMom last decade
Hello lovingmom

The bottle is suppose to be shaken each time before taking a teaspoon out of it.

Remember to take some yourself to help you relax and sleep and to help you be in a better condition to help your husband.
Pat2006 last decade
Isn't the arnica for myself suppose to be 6C ?
LovingMom last decade
That's a good question for Joe.

I started out with Arnica 30c split dose.

Split dose is more gentle.

Try it and see how you do on it.

Take the teaspoon out of the bottle and put it in a 1/2 cup of water and stir it. Then take a teaspoon out of that and throw the rest of the 1/2 cup away.

If Joe has a different answer, he will let you know.
Pat2006 last decade
The Nat Phos 6x Biochemic tablets are to promote digestion and the result should be noticed in about 10 minutes after it is taken when the food will go down quickly. It will stop flatulence as he will pass wind shortly after. This promotes peristalsis and the food passes more quickly down the gut thereby reducing the weight of the user at the rate of about a pound per week.

The shaking of the bottle is homeopathic succussion which increases the potency of the remedy slightly with every shake and thereby makes the remedy to be more effective in helping to cure the ailment.

Nux Vomica 200 is only to help to detoxify him to enable the 2 remedies he is using Arnica and Nat Phos to help him back to normal in a short while.

I can tell you one thing for sure. You have prevented him from getting a heart attack in the near future with your post which you did in the nick of time.

I shall be interested in his blood test results especially the HDL and LDL and Triglyceride levels.

How old is your husband ?
Joe De Livera last decade
I would like your husband also to use the Arnica twice daily. This will help him to relax and since you have the 6c this will be OK.

The 30c will help him better as it will react better.
Joe De Livera last decade

Do you agree or disagree that she should take the Arnica 30c in split dose for herself.

I think she said she has 30c.
Pat2006 last decade
Both husband and wife can take the Arnica 30c in the wet dose if they have it already.

Arnica has been proved to increase the flow of blood in the body and this is perhaps the reason why it is used immediately after an injury. I have witnessed patients who were involved in a bomb blast in Colombo who were in severe pain after surgery, falling asleep within 10 minutes after a dose of Arnica.

I have used and promoted its use to all who will listen and I often offer my own sense of wellness at my age of 76 years as evidence as my skin condition is that of a teenager and my BP at 120/80 pulse 65 which has been my standard since I first was interested in medicine about 40 years ago.

I am aware that many members are aghast that I promote this remedy for daily use which is against their classical beliefs but it is the proof of the pudding that really matters and many who use this remedy have blessed me for having put them on it as it has in some cases even saved their lives.

It is possible that we may be able to help the husband, whose name I yet do not know to live to a ripe old age without any medical problems which he would have soon suffered from at the rate he was going headlong into disaster.
Joe De Livera last decade
It is not necessary that anyone uses Arnica 30 in the split dose as this remedy cannot be compared to Nat Sulph 6c which as you know is my default remedy for Asthma.

I can personally testify to the benefits that derive from a daily dose of Arnica which I have used nightly since 1996. There have been variations in the potency and the frequency of the dosage as for instance I used Arnica 30c every 2 hours after my surgery and prevented the nurses from drugging me with the Morphine which they use liberally to alleviate the pain. They including my surgeon were flabbergasted to witness living evidence of the efficacy of Arnica as I had the 50ml syringe attached to the IV line disconnected and walked out after being discharged from hospital after major surgery on the 5th day.
Joe De Livera last decade
Yes ..ans reg. waking up.
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
HELP. we need help.
This is not good.
All my husband is taking is Arnica 30c wet dose twice a day.
again last night at 11 pm, I gave the remedy to him. He was calm but couldn't fall asleep.
At 12:30 am he took xanax. from that point the night turned into hell.
he had scary very vivid dream. where he has huge fears of different situations but helpless to help him or his family.
he was up between dreams, sweating an unblieveable amount (his pillow was dranched wet). his mouth and tongue so dry, but wasn't able to get himself a glass of water. he had fast heart palpitations. I don't understand why but he didn't wake me up to help him through out the night.
this morning I woke up at 6 am. he was up and sobbing like a baby. he is tired and scared. he is afraid of homeopathy and what it did to him.
he is the only provider to our family. he says - 'this is not the right time to do this. I can loose my job' .

Help us. I cried with him together. I don't think he should or able to go through that at the moment. is there a way to anti dote the arnica. help , he is not well. I need an answer fast.

he doesn't want to take any other remedies.
Although I am a true believer of homeopathy, I tend to agree with him.

Please answer fast,
Worried wife
LovingMom last decade

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