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Dear Murthy,

Here is another case where you have tried to butt in to dominate the scene as far as the patient is concerned.

You may like to know that I have helped Will to QUIT smoking as he has confirmed in his post above and he has lately developed a gastric problem for which I have prescribed Nat Phos 6x.

I do not see any reason for you to take over the case without my permission and to order Will to go to your thread which you have opened up for him.

This is the reason why we have all ganged up on you to prevent you from dominating the ABC as you have done on the Hpathy which we will not permit here.

You may suggest some alternate therapy for Will's gastric problem but I would be surprised if he follows your order to him to respond to you on your new thread.

You may like to know that I prescribed Arnica 30c in the wet dose to him many months ago and he has confirmed that he has QUIT smoking with my therapy which was based on my Joepathy approach to homeopathy which invariably works.

I shall be very surprised if you can equate this cure of a chronic smoker with your classical case taking procedure.

Joe De Livera
 
Joe De Livera last decade
I rather ascribe it to his 'will power' rather than 'your' arnica.

Dear Joe

Arnica will not be useful for all the diseases on this earth.

Will suddenly popped up on this thread,and this may confuse the original poster 'Malathy'

Neither you nor me own this thread.

Please don't get unnecessarily agitated.

What I did is the best option.

If you don't subscribe to my view and insist to continue here, I will open a seperate thread for 'Malathy'.

There is no other intention except to help the patients, and not to confuse them.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Huh! 'best option'

Authority to decide and describe the best option??
 
kuldeep last decade
Mr. Murthy:

The medication (Conchoma) seems to be helping me so far. If you please send me your email address, I will greatly appreciate it.
 
Malathy last decade
Dear Murthy,

It is pathetic to see how you insist on belittling the fact that Arnica has helped Will to QUIT smoking by ascribing his cure to 'will power'. I do wish that you would read his previous posts to understand the course of the treatment that he has used up to now which has lead to this successful outcome.

If it is only 'will power' that has helped him I would request you to consider
how all other smokers whom I have helped to QUIT smoking have, according to you, been successful through their own 'will power'. You may like to know that I have over 12 smokers whom I have helped to quit smoking and all these cases cannot possibly be ascribed to 'will power' alone. I have no doubt whatever that they have all been cured by ARNICA and not by will power. If you are a smoker yourself you are invited to use Arnica 30c in the wet dose and see how you respond.

You have also stated that 'Arnica will not be useful for all the diseases on this earth.' I presume that you wish to convey that because I have used Arnica for many ailments that you did not know could be helped by Arnica, because they are not listed in the MM's and Repertories that you have read, that I am therefore guilty of using Arnica for ALL diseases on earth. You are aware that this is a complete fabrication on your part and you are invited to read the many thousands of posts that I have made on the ABC and also the few hundred on your own Hpathy to know that I do use many other remedies as you also do but I do NOT do so on classical lines, but on my own experience in using them on my patients, which I find is far more satisfying than using only the classical method which I too am qualified to use with assistance from my Radar software.

I would remind you that you are again creating a situation which makes it distasteful for a person like me who is dedicated to healing, to suffer your insults which are so very unnecessary. We have had a relatively peaceful atmosphere on the ABC till your arrival a few weeks ago except for one female who thought she was the cat's whiskers whom I seem to have succeeded in taming, but since your arrival here, there have been many instances of open conflict with others who have had to cross swords with you which in some cases ended up in insults and unparliamentary language on a forum which is read worldwide. It is the sheer wastage of time that I deplore which could have been devoted towards healing.

I would implore you NOT to resort to your familiar tactics again at least in your posts addressed to me as I may be compelled to retaliate in kind. You must understand that you have your own method of treating an ailment and I have mine. You are always welcome to help a patient whom I am treating like Malathy above, but there is a certain protocol in your doing so which you unfortunately do not observe, and which unfortunately leads to a situation such as this.

It occurs to me that Arnica which is a remedy that I have great respect for, can also help you to turn a new page in your life as it will lower your Blood Pressure and thereby relax your mind and may help to contain your aggressiveness. I would advise you to take the 30c in the wet dose twice daily and experience the difference that it can make for you in your life. No coffee of course and please forget your classical homeopathy for this therapy.

Joe De Livera
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Malathy

My email address is there in my profile.

To access my profile,just click my nane above(on the green bar)

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Looks like there is some problem.It is not visible in the profile, though I ticked it to be viewed.

Anyway, just add yahoo.com to my username,gavinimurthy.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Dear Joe

I was a chronic smoker. Used to smoke from my college days (18 years age) till six years ago.

That is almost a silver jublee (25 years) of smoking.

There is nothing I didn't try.Beedi,cigerette,paper rolls,cigar,pipe.Van Gough used to be my favourite pipe tobacco.

Any way, that was a past story.Now it is more than six years since I stopped it.

It is not because of Arnica.

Your philosophy is different from mine, and I won't accept your philosophy, however best you may try.

I will keep exposing the irrelavancy of Arnica to all and sundry problems.

Let the patients decide what they want to do.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Hello, I'm a new poster here but I've pretty much read all the posts on GERD/acid reflux which I've been suffering from for years. I started off on Prilosec, then moved on to Nexium. Then a month ago it got very bad (burning chest pain) especially at night, and I had so much acid right up in my mouth that it made my gums bleed. Doctor doubled the nexium (2 a day) and after a gastroscopy he also gave me Clonazepam to take before bed because he said I had a lot of stomach spasms. Been taking it for a week and it does help, but since it's habit forming it's not something I'd want to take for a long time...

So, after reading a lot here as I stated, I ordered Nat Phos 6X and Arnica 30C which I just received. I was planning to start with 2 Nat Phos tablets/pellets 3 times a day after each meal, and 1 teaspoon Arnica (wet dose) before bedtime. Note that I also wish to quit smoking.

So I'd like to know if the above is the correct way to start the treatment.

Also, I ordered the remedies from this site but, altough my invoice states 'Nat Phos 6X', the label on the bottle says 'Natrum Phos. 6DH'. Is it the same thing? It's from Boiron.

Thanks to all the contributors on this forum.
 
JustBob last decade
To Bob

Since you state that you have read the posts that I and others have contributed to on this forum, I presume that you know the standard therapy that I have prescribed successfully for many cases.

It is essential that you STOP ALL DRUGS that you have been prescribed as they are slowly killing you.

Start with Nat Phos 6x dose 4 tablets taken 3 times daily for the first week and report your response in 3 days after you start. You can also take the Arnica 30c in the wet dose twice daily to help heal your esophagus which is obviously badly eroded by the gastric acids which hopefully will be arrested from being regurgitated into it by the Nat Phos. Arnica will also help you to quit smoking as it has helped many to do so and is past the experimental stage when I first discovered its amazing ability to help chronic smokers about 2 years ago.

The Nat Phos 6DH is the equivalent of 6x but you can ask for confirmation from the pharmacist if it is a biochemic tissue salt.

If your spasms continue please post again and I shall indicate a remedy.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Hi Joe,

Yes, as of this morning, I have stopped taking all drugs that I was using (Nexium, Motilium (domperidone), and Clonazepan).

So I started the treatment today. I took 2 Nat Phos after breakfast and just took 2 after lunch. You are saying I should take 3 x 4 tablets instead of 3 x 2?

Also does it matter when I take the Arnica? Is after lunch and before bedtime ok?

Thanks for your help.
 
JustBob last decade
2 tablets NP after a meal may not be sufficient for your case. You are advised to use a minimum of 3 tablets after 3 meals for a week and you can expect to have relief very quickly. NP is absolutely safe to be used and is by far safer than the drugs you have listed. You may like to know that a 6c potency is the equivalent of 1/1millionth of the salt.

You may take the Arnica during the day with the last dose just before you sleep preferably some time after brushing your teeth.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Thank you Joe, I took 4 after breakfast this morning so I'll continue with 3 x 4 a day. Silly question now: I'm just swallowing them with a bit of water, should I let them melt in my mouth???

Also, my first night (last night) without taking Clonazepam was rough. I could feel the spasms and resulting reflux and burning pain in my chest. Should I wait until I've taken Nat Phos for a week before we address this? From a bit of research, it would seem that Magnesium Phosphoricum could replace the Clonazepam.

Thanks for your help.
 
JustBob last decade
To Bob,

I would like to correct my last post where I referred to Nat Phos 6c. This should read as 6x which is a millionth of the salt. 6c is the equivalent of 1 million millionth but it cannot be used for gastric problems.

Please clarify the dose that you used which you state as 'You are saying I should take 3 x 4 tablets instead of 3 x 2? ' Please read my previous post for instructions on the dosage which I would ask you to follow precisely.

If you feel bad without Clonazepam you may take it at night to enable you to get a good night's rest. Eat only a small dinner and do that about 3 hours before you go to sleep.

I note that you have not confirmed that you are taking Arnica 30c in the wet dose. Please start taking it as instructed as it is an integral part of the therapy.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Joe,

Since you stated 'a minimum of 3 tablets after each meal', as of this morning, I started taking 4 tablets of Nat Phos 6X after each meal (3 X 4 = 12 tablets daily).

I also took one teasppoon of Arnica 30C wet dose 1 hour after lunch. I'll take another dose before bedtime.

I'll take the Clonazepam before bedtime but as I stated, I was wondering if I could take Magnesium Phosphoricum instead. Both seem to address 'convulsions, epilepsy, cramps and spasms'

Actually, my pharmacist was surprised that my gastroenterologist prescribed this to me for acid reflux/stomach spasms. She told me it was usually prescribed for epilepsy and people with panic/anxiety attacks which isn't my case. She said the only common keyword between what I have and what this is usually prescribed for is 'spasms'.

Thanks.
 
JustBob last decade
Bob

I prescribed Nat Phos to help with your obvious GERD symptoms which I presumed were the cause of your spasms. The burning that you experience is the gastric juice digesting your esophagus and we must do everything to stop this happening. The Nexium you are taking reduces the flow of acid into the stomach and without it your lower esophagal valve leaks this highly corrosive digestive juice upwards.

I have no objection to your using the Mag Phos 6x to see if this helps and both the NP and the MP can be taken together preferably at night as you do not experience any discomfort during the day.

Report progress.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
One week update:

I've been taking Nat Phos 6X (4 pellets, 3 times a day after each meal) and Arnica 30C wet dose twice a day for a week now. I still take Clonazepam before bed (Have not received my order of Mag Phos 6X yet...).

The biggest improvement I see is that I have far less bloating/belching than I used to. However, I still have reflux. It seems to build up during the day and is worse in the evenings and at night. The last couple of days have been particularly difficult with severe burning in chest/throat in the evening and at night. I'm still careful about what I eat, and I don't eat 4 hours before going to bed. Today, I switched from drinking regular tea to chamomille tea which is supposed to be good for digestion.

One thing I'm wondering is that I started going back to the gym 3 times starting last week and I do a lot of stomach crunches. I wonder if that has an impact on the reflux?

So, less bloating and belching but still reflux!

Any comments/suggestions?

Thanks,

JustBob
 
JustBob last decade
Maintain the present therapy and avoid a heavy meal for dinner and do not drink more than a few sips of water.

Have your dinner early and let the food pass down before you sleep after about 3 hours after.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Since this thread is started by Malathy, I think it is pertinent to inform readers here about her.

She is in touch with me by e.mail. She stopped taking Nat.Phos, after getting aggravated by it.

She is now on standard classical therapy, and is showing improvement.

I told her to post her condition once in a week.

The first week's report is very positive.

The second report is due in a few days.

I will keep you posted of further developments.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Joe,

I received my Mag Phos 6X. Should I take it along with Nat Phos after meals? Just once before bed? Dosage?

Tks,

JustBob
 
JustBob last decade
What is the present status of your GERD ?

If the Nat Phos has helped you stay with it. The Mag Phos will only help to ease any spasms of the gut but if you do not experience any pain you do not have to use it too.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Another question. Can you mix natural remedies with hoeopathic remedies?

I'm continuing with Nat Phos 6X (4 tablets after each meal) and with Arnica 30C wet dose but since my digestion is so slow can I also take DGL (De-Glycyrrhizinated Licorice, chew one tablet 20 min before meal) and Super Enzymes (digestive enzymes, 1 cap after meals)?

JustBob
 
JustBob last decade
By the way, my GERD seems to be pretty much the same. I feel alright during the day but there seems to be a slow buildup so I feel it more in the evenings and at night.

As my gastroenterologist saw during my last endoscopy, spams seem to cause bile from going up. This causes heartburn (chest pain/burning) and sour taste in my mouth.
 
JustBob last decade
I am concerned to note that your GERD symptoms have not been helped by Nat Phos 6x so far. You have also used Mag Phos which I believe someone else suggested and this too has not helped. I must admit that yours is a difficult case which I believe is due to a problem associated with your Gall bladder. What have your doctors told you about your problem ?

I would like to try another method of helping you with Asafoetida 6c in the wet dose taken twice daily. This prevents reverse peristalysis which you seem to be suffering from.

I would prefer that you do not use the enzymes as they will occlude the picture that your ailment presents. You will also stop all other remedies that you are now using when you start on this new therapy which you will please report your response in 3 days.

If you discover that your problem is exacerbated without the Nat Phos you may still continue with it but the idea is to help to localize your problem without the antacid helping.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Joe,

As I stated above, during my last gastroscopy, my doctor noticed that I have a lot of stomach and oesophagal spasms
which causes acid/bile reflux.

That's why he prescribed Clonazepam, because he said it would help with the spasms.

I'll try to find Asofoetida 6C locally tomorrow because if I have to order it online, it will take a week to get here.

You said 'in a wet dose twice daily'. How many pellets? Dissolved in how much water? Taken when during the day?
 
JustBob last decade
The spasms will be controlled by the Mag Phos 6x. Please report if it has helped you. The GERD will be controlled by the Nat Phos 6x.

Maintain this therapy till you get the Asafoetida 6c which will stop the reverse peristalysis. You may use all 3 remedies to see if we can succeed in overcoming your somewhat unusual ailment.
 
Joe De Livera last decade

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