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Dear Pankaj, I didnot say 'cannot' - what I said is many prefer not to prescribe online because it might not necessarily be the best you can do. And another thing which particularly bothers me is that if you prescribe 'A' for one person, or say, give them a choice of 'A', 'B', 'C' or 'D' remedies, there are others with the same or similar complaint who will take one or ALL these remedies without due consideration that those need not necessarily suit them. I have experienced this - even after stringent warnings. I choose not to contribute to abuse of homeopathy - and lets, please, not argue again on who is right about which aspects of homeopathy. However, what I am saying is choosing not to prescribe does not make one unqualified to know the tenets of practice, if you can understand that.
 
ripas last decade
Hello Ripas,
I respect your views. I have also sensed many times that there are people visiting this site who have good knowledge of homeopathy but would not give homeopathic suggestions ...either for reasons as explained by you or for lack of time, inclination etc. etc.

However, my view is: if we do not give our suggestions...all those who come here to learn something new about homeopathy ...how will they benefit.

Secondly, please see Mohan's post on the 'Arnica.for anything and everything'. He is a research scientist and has made a wonder ful post today about innovation.

My guru taught me only two things that can take a person forward in life:

Excellence, excellence, excellence.

Innovation, innovation, innovation.

Both these things come by sharing knowledge.

I lead my life this way.

Best wishes,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
This is Mohan's post about innovation (in all walks of
life):

Quote
Dear Joe,
If all scientistis stuck to what their predecessors scribed, there would be no new thoughts, priciples, researches and inventions ..........the result --> stagnation of skill, knowledge and experiences.

I am not an academician but a research scientist. Keep trying new ways and modifications of existing principles and methods.

I strongly believe in your approach and methodology. AFTER ALL THE RESULTS THAT MATTER.

Libraries are full of books new and old. Let book worm dabble there. You go on helping people achieve results from their ailments.

Every day a crow comes and sits of the frame of my balcony window and keeps on making noise till I kick him away. This is the crux of the story.....
Unquote
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
and these are the results of Joe's therapy over an year.

Statistics.!!

re: anal fistula- fissure From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-03

Izzac was the first patient on this thread..He just got palliated..still has the problem.

Chipper started the therapy and abandoned it with in a month,as his pulse went down to 49 after starting arnica..he is not tobe seen around..

and this is what Izzac said on 19/01/06

'I realised something. Whenever I thought I was ok, I stopped using Savlon cream, then it started draining again. Happened just yesterday. It could be the Savlon that is quite good in killing the ever-productive germs. Healing speeds up when there are not that many germs u see.'

Bethw has moved over to Fibrin Glue Therapy within 6 months..

Noproblemo found no relief and went for surgery...

Colocub opted for surgery after trying out this protocol..

Jonboy got fedup and said it makes no difference...

Fistula is taking only Arnica and stopped other medications...

martinp didn't get much relief and stopped posting...

buck99se recommends surgery..

summary wants to know when he will get cured...

Julianna is into it only for two months...

Vancouverguy switched over to nitric acid...

trishs fistula is surfacing again...

tumzin reports it is taking a long time to heal...

megastar is keeping his fingers crossed...

overanxious is going to see a classical homeopath...


Other posts are from those who just peep in and move on..
*********

I read all the 25 pages patiently.

The above are the hard facts staring at you.

The data is from over an year.It is all there before your own eyes.

Decide yourself whether you want doubtful palliation or cure.

Choice is yours.

*********

Murthy

Re: Combination homeopathy vs. Classical homeopathy From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-05
I forgot to highlight the RESULTS word. The above are the results MOHAN was talking about.

'AFTERALL RESULTS MATTER.'

How true.!!

Murthy

Re: Combination homeopathy vs. Classical homeopathy From PANKAJ VARMA on 2006-11-05
Murthy,
Are you not in favour of Research and Innovation in Homeopathy ???

Pankaj Varma

Re: Combination homeopathy vs. Classical homeopathy From PANKAJ VARMA on 2006-11-05
Murthy,
While on these threads you make huge lectures....when you actually get down to case taking and prescribing...how come you forget all these guidelines.
(Cold ...case for example).

Pankaj Varma

Re: Combination homeopathy vs. Classical homeopathy From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-05
Hi Pank aj

Even in 'cold' case all guidelines are followed.

Please go and see once again.

Murthy

Re: Combination homeopathy vs. Classical homeopathy From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-05
Research and innovation are always welcome in any field.

You prove more medicines and bring out new materia medica.

You try to add remedies to the already existing 'groups' based on latest clinical findings.

You try to innovate in methods of administration.

But,to practice in a way, that has been explicitly prohibited by Hahn..and calling it reaserch and innovation is deciet of the highest sort.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
The ways of practicing are also changing..why are you using softwares...those were not recommended by Hahnemann.

There are so many reports of allopaths which patients brign with them X-rays, ECG reports, Ultrasondscans, MRI scans and more...they were never there at the time of Hahnemann....so as per your assertion dear Murthy.... should they be ignored and discarded ???????

The modes of practice are also changing.

I know of a homeopath who reads through a machine the vibration pattern of the foot of an individual and based on that advises the homeopathic medicine...entirely ignoring all MMs and Repertories.

Dear Murthy...the world has changed a lot...and the diagnostic skills are also changing and improving...no matter what you say ..people will use new methods to practice.

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Diagnostic reports help the homeopath to the extant of knowing the location part more precisely.

These repots help hin in understanding the prognosis.

Finally,he will depend on the signs and symptoms only.

Yes.There are all sorts of q u a c k s.Unfortunately, all of them call themselves homeopaths.

The basic philosophy of

Similar remedy

single remedy

minimum dose

maximum waiting

will not change.

those who flout these fundamentals, should be ashamed to call themselves homeopaths.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Dear Pankaj, I think you said you were an engineer? So in your (other) working life, you follow certain scientific norms and rules? For instance, an engineer designing a bridge will not expect to build it without a foundation, and an architect planning a building has to take into account certain principles, if the whole thing is not to come crashing down? Within the facts you know are true, you can make all the innovations you want, but if you ignore, for example that there is such a thing as gravity and plan a hawa mahal (castle in the air - literally) just how successful is that likely to be?
Why then do people feel free to mess with the basic principles of homeopathy - because it is largely unregulated? The facts are these: homeopathy means like cures like. The very base is the matching of patient to remedy. The minimum dose and single remedy follow. Now, I would leave to 'innovation' the choice of potency and the frequency of repetition and even occassional alteration of remedies if required. But you cannot adopt short-cut methods and call them homeopathy, because without the basic underlying principles, it is no longer homeopathy.
I have experienced myself that it is far easier to practice when you are new to homeopathy - when you have your 'Select Your Remedy' and Bajaj and Tandons (no offence to you) it seems such a breeze. Then you start your course and THEN comes the real thing - it is hard work, but very satisfying when you see true results. Now I do not mean that you don't know all this - I have seen a few reasonable prescriptions from you. The whole point is that those who are defending a spurious and unproven (and before you point me to Joe's 'prescriptions' for ultimate cures for this and that, please take a good look again - how many CURES are there? Good gentleman though he may be, he is no homeopath) in the name of 'innovation' are totally without basis, because you can only innovate WITHIN a proven system. If you want another system, then formulate the rules nd the theory and then submit it to the general public.
 
ripas last decade
Using a belief to oppose a clinical trial is not logical and wise.
 
dr mehmood last decade
Hello Ripas,
As you might have guessed, all my knowledge cannot be the result of just one or two books.

Would you be kind enough to fill your profile (here at ABC) with your backgrond details. It helps to know.

Thanks,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
*background details
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
I note that there is some reference to me and my Joepathy and I would like to copy a post that I have just made in response to Murthy on another thread which is relevant to the debate on this thread.

Dear Murthy,

Dont you think that it is time that you stopped your constant haranging of me and my Joepathy ? Although you feel that you are doing a great service to the members of this forum by enticing them away, they do not seem to reciprocate your invitation as they do not seem to be in the slightest interested in your attempts to keep them 'better informed' . It is obvious to anyone who visits the ABC and reads your posts that they treat you as a PEST who is only intent on creating unnecessary friction on this once peaceful forum which was a place of refuge for suffering patients who post their ailments in the hope of a cure. It is also possible they even treat you as a BIG JOKE .

I have no objections whatever to your continuing in your pathetic attempts to entice them away for treatment on a separate thread as per your invitation a few days ago, to give them a taste of your Murthypathy which they do not seem to be the slightest interested in. I do hope that this fact alone will convey to you their estimation of your capabilities which we are all eager to savour but unfortunately in vain.

Do remember that it is not the classical learning that you pretend to have in enforcing your classical discpline, which we have not seen or experienced so far that matters in prescribing for the members of this forum. It is the sheer dedication that I and a few others have displayed throughout the past few years where we have spent hours daily on helping patients while you in comparison have only very rarely prescribed for a patient with no apparent feed back.

This is what Homeopathy is all about. Not the mere showing off of one's acumen in classical homeopathy on in my case Joepathy.
In the final analysis it is the rate of cure that matters and as you know I have deviated from the classical routine which I consider a
sheer waste of time and I feel that it will be only a matter of time before the classical school of homeopaths will realize that they cannot fool their patients all the time. In my own way I have been successful in proving that I too can help in curing the standard diseases that afflict mankind and that my own Joepathy or the direct approach to healing is by far more powerful and produces results in hours in comparison to your classical method which usually takes eons to produce even an amelioration of the ailment, during which time the poor suffering patient goes from bad to worse and often has to abandon homeopathy and to return to their doctors due to the sheer agony that they have to endure like for instance in the case of a Fistula patient whose history I do not wish to elaborate on this thread again.

Dear Murthy, I implore you to WAKE UP and to open your eyes to the realities of the direct approach, This for That also known as Joepathy.

You may not believe this but I have not had time to check the ABC and the other 2 forums that I visit Homeopathy and More and the NCH today as I have spent my time in replying to your inane posts which I have done so far, patiently as I am trying to open your eyes to realities of Homeopathy which to my knowledge and the reports of others who are classical homeopaths and even teachers, who are all convinced that Homeopathy is changing slowly but surely as the age of pretense is now long past and it is the realities of healing that matter.

Joe
 
Joe De Livera last decade
javaaid81 has been banned - thanks for all who told me of him. I was away for a couple of days, or would have banned him sooner.

Please discontinue this discussion though, we have tried letting it run on, and it did not reach a useful conclusion. Agree that you disagree, and you are all here to try to help people which is commendable. You all have the right to speak up where you disagree with anything said here.

While I thank you all for claiming to love this forum, remember that all the forum really is is a collection of individual contributions, so show the love where it is due - to all other contributors.

Simon
 
moderator last decade
SImon,

Thank you for your action in banning this imposter even though it was long overdue.

Joe
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear friends,

Let us all wind up this bickering and move ahead with helping people.

Rajiv
 
rajivprasad last decade
My apologies to the moderator for posting here again - just to reply to Pankaj.
Dear Pankaj, please tell me how (it would help.) No offence meant or taken, BTW.
 
ripas last decade
Sorry again - in for a penny, in for a pound... and Pankaj,I don't think and didn't mean to imply that you have read or refer to only those two books - I'm quite sure you have a respectable library. It was an example.
 
ripas last decade
Ripas...my only concern was to know if you are a qualified , practising homeopath.

While people address you as a male, your replies suggest you are a female. (I could be wrong though).

Best wishes,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Dear Pankaj, I am a qualified, practicing homeopath.
Well, I suppose it could be taken as a compliment or as an insult, depending on your mindset, so I shall take it as a compliment.
You, however, did not reply to points raised in my earlier post?
 
ripas last decade
Hello Ripas,
In reply to your questions:

I have a friend who is a qualified Classical Homeopath...has a very successful practice...is also a Professor in a reputed College of Homeopathy. A recognised homeopathic expert on High BP problems.

A patient went to see him. After taking down the case, he ran the symptoms list on his software.
Three meds emerged on top of the list.

1. Sulphur
2. Calcarea Carb
3. Lachesis

He asked his assistant to make all three meds in 200C potency.

All three meds, as you know are deep acting and long acting meds.

Then he instructed the patient to take Sulphur 200 on day one , Lachesis 200 on day two and Calcarea Carb. 200 on day three (i.e. all in 24 hour gaps).

All meds to be taken in the morning ...on empty stomach.

Finally told the patient....come back after 21 days. this will take care of you.

Now will you please tell me ....IF I WAS A LAY MAN... would I accept Murthy's half baked advice based on what he has read only in books

or

Should I follow the ways of this very successful doctor who has more than 20 years of experience and all the degrees a classical homeopath can have in India.

(That is why I keep telling Murthy....'your training is incomplete').

Thanks and regards,

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
He may be a qualified homeopath, but not by any means a classical homeopath.

If you read Dr.Luc's article on pseudo homeopathy he is talking about these very 'qualified' doctors.

Simply because A QUALIFIED DOCTOR is presribing in this irresponsible way, it doesn't make it acceptable.

Dr.Luc's many cases are from patients who are treated by 'qualified' doctors like these, whose immune system is totally compromised.

Very succesful doctor.!!!

Is he more succesful than Dr.Vijayakar,Dr.GV,Dr.Luc..toname a few.

They have huge following and impeccable record.

I follow these doctors. Not a road side 'qualified' doctor, who throws all that he has beeb taught into the wind, and resorts to these abonimanable prescriptions.

The way you follow these road side fellows, I follow eminent scholars of homeopathy.

Every one has his preferences. I prefer to follow somebody whose logic appeals to me.

You can't find fault with it.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Dear Murthy,

You are presuming that you have more knowledge compared to a homeopathic doctor who is bound by the rules of a professional college and by the regulations of a professional body of homeopaths of which he is a member and also sits on some committes of the professional body.

You are also presuming that the points you are raising...these professional homeopaths would not have considered. Certainly an error in your judgement.

Your post is a frank admission on your part that you still have to learn a lot from practising homeopaths. Merely reading books and articles on homeopathy does not give you the desired skills.

Another thing you have to learn is 'humility'. Which is very necessary for a doctor....since you say you have been practising 'with your half-baked skills' for four years.

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
When you say this...
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Dr.Luc's many cases are from patients who are treated by 'qualified' doctors like these, whose immune system is totally compromised.
*******

Do you or Dr. Luc...have a 'meter' that will read the strength of the immune system or the 'vital force'????

These are all conjectures...to support your own line of argument.

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
The doctors I mentioned too are 'qualified'. Why can't I learn from them?

Why can't I follow their teachings, which stand to logic?

They too are 'professional' 'practicing' homeopaths.

They have better reoutation than those nameless doctors you talk about.

Yes. I have to learn a lot.A life time is not enough to learn homeopathy.

'Half baked skills'...

Better avoid comments like this. If I too start questioning your skills, it will start another another slinging match.I will refrain from doing so this time.

Humility doesn't mean to accept all the name callings, and the comments like above, without a murmur.

I will call a spade a spade, and there are no nicites to be observed.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
There is no need for a meter.

The worsening of their condition, their getting graver diseases too early in life are indications of suppression.

Read again the thread

Theory of suppression

attentively.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
People these days are taking lot of different meds/foods....allopathic, ayurveda, chinese meds, food supplements, junk foods etc etc etc.

Also water supply, air have pollutents, foods have pesticides ...when they are grown....so to say :

homeopathic medicine caused suppression....... is wrong.

People have life styles that are causing supression of symptoms.

In books that theory looks fine....when you study life styles of patients, the different treatments they have taken...you realise....not a single patient is living on just homeo meds.

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
My dear Pankaj

Suppression can happen from any obnoxious influence, including wrong use of homeopathic medicines.

The allopathic medicines are the biggest culprits,particularly steroids and overdosing with antibiotics.

Life styles too are a reason,no doubt about that.

Homeopathic medicines too are powerful, and can suppress if used indiscriminately.

The combination medicines are the biggest suppressers.

Incidentally, the theory of suppression is not limited to homeopathic medicines.

The same sequence of moving into higher layers of disease is seen with all therapies, prescribed wrongly, including aurveda.

That is the beauty of that theory.

It doesn't distinguish the mode of therapy.Any wrong therapy will suppress, and the disease progression will genrally be on the lines mentioned.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade

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