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You are right, my mistake, I did not notice the mood change in your post after the 1st dose (downside of taking cases without looking at the patient); I apologise. It was a sign to decrease the dose back than. Only because it did not happen, he is going through aggravation now. Good news, it is a similliar aggravation, since all these symptoms (legs included) are not new in the picture. It slowed down the cure, but did not stop it. You statred to see improvement, and you will see more and more after the aggravation passes. Until the improvement ends, there is no need to have new doses.
His stool is black due to charcoal, do not give more than 2 capsules a day. Was he hot today?
His stool is black due to charcoal, do not give more than 2 capsules a day. Was he hot today?
Lylla last decade
If he is not hot, than he does not need charcoal anymore. If the stomach ache is there, one capsule can help, but other than that, no need.
Lylla last decade
He came home today -- more moody than the day before - a little less than the days preceding yesterday.
He said his cough is a little worse -- more phlegm and has post nasal drip which is causing mucus in his throat.
Not hot, dizzy or white today. His energy seems better today. He said his stomach bothered him a little today.
I'm assuming a wait and see approach.
He said his cough is a little worse -- more phlegm and has post nasal drip which is causing mucus in his throat.
Not hot, dizzy or white today. His energy seems better today. He said his stomach bothered him a little today.
I'm assuming a wait and see approach.
l471530 last decade
More discharge is Ok. Any correct medicine should work producing discharge of some sort. That is true, we need to wait until the first signs of relapse, than he needs next dose.
Lylla last decade
Last night apparently my son was sweating in bed profusely...he ended up sleeping in our spare bedroom because he got so uncomfortable.
Also, last night and this morning, he seems so sad, I can't even explain it because I really can't say I've seen him like this before. He has a frown on his face and just seems despondent. Like he is depressed, just not happy at all.
Also, last night he mentioned his breast to me. When he took the Baryta Carbonica (he took it 3 times), he began to grow but his voice became very low almost hoarse and one of his breasts (right side) got larger or inflamed. It bothered him enough that he mentioned it to his doctor who discounted it and said that it is not unusual for boys to have one breast larger than the other. However, last night he mentioned it again and said that the side that is inflamed hurts him when it is touched or hit by someone. It seemed to really bother him. This isn't new other than he says that it can hurt him at time...I don't remember him mentioning that before.
I'll keep you posted.
[message edited by l471530 on Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:28:43 GMT]
Also, last night and this morning, he seems so sad, I can't even explain it because I really can't say I've seen him like this before. He has a frown on his face and just seems despondent. Like he is depressed, just not happy at all.
Also, last night he mentioned his breast to me. When he took the Baryta Carbonica (he took it 3 times), he began to grow but his voice became very low almost hoarse and one of his breasts (right side) got larger or inflamed. It bothered him enough that he mentioned it to his doctor who discounted it and said that it is not unusual for boys to have one breast larger than the other. However, last night he mentioned it again and said that the side that is inflamed hurts him when it is touched or hit by someone. It seemed to really bother him. This isn't new other than he says that it can hurt him at time...I don't remember him mentioning that before.
I'll keep you posted.
[message edited by l471530 on Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:28:43 GMT]
l471530 last decade
His body tries to find its new balance, it is a time of global changes also because his hormons are not stable, he is turning into a man. His breast is not enlarged due to any homeopathy, my son went through it too. Hurting might be a sign of infection, treat it gently topically with 100% alcohol on the cotton ball, working towards a full tolerance. If it still hurts, it is still infected. Do not give him other than 100% cotton shirts, they should not have anything across his breasts like words, pockets and so on, that can irritate the skin. These shirts plus sweating are the culprit behind infection.
Lylla last decade
You can also use peroxide instead of ethanol. Do not rub and do not press. Inflammation should go away in 2 days if treated regularly.
Vitamin B12 is the first candidate to help with the sadness. Please, start giving him 1 lozenge every morning of Methylcobalamin 3000 mcg, do not use Cyanocobalamin. Also, provide as many oranges as he asks for (they are a good source of folic acid). If the sadness persists, than his body asks for something else. With the energy levels rising, his body needs support in nutrients (fuel).
Vitamin B12 is the first candidate to help with the sadness. Please, start giving him 1 lozenge every morning of Methylcobalamin 3000 mcg, do not use Cyanocobalamin. Also, provide as many oranges as he asks for (they are a good source of folic acid). If the sadness persists, than his body asks for something else. With the energy levels rising, his body needs support in nutrients (fuel).
Lylla last decade
I will get some Methylcobalamin...I use to give to my daughter when she was younger while we were trying to deal with her ADHD and auditory learning deficiencies...didn't help her but I'll see if it helps my son. In terms of oranges, I have to limit because he actually has shown on his IG??? tests that he is also allergic to them. He is okay to have a few a week (including orange juice) once he has too much he get allergic reactions and he also gets canker sores and moody.
I have mandarine oranges and I use them instead as they don't seem to affect him as much. FYI...we also make him a juice four or five times a week (it has protein powder, kale, spinach, fruit like strawberries, pineapples etc.). We have been doing that for over a year now...we bought a great Vitamix which works really well.
His mood today, unchanged. He did say that he was letting out gas all day at school and that it was actually smelly. His stool today was again, small and black.
How sure are you that Med is the correct remedy? My daughter took Med 1M in 2004 and it never affected her this way. Are we missing the mark possibly? Typically I find that they work inside, outside and then top to bottom ...something like that. This is acting much differently than I've seen other remedies work. I want to be patient, and of course I will be, but a the same time I don't want us to be blind if this is trying to point us to the needed remedy. What are your reasons for feeling my son is on the right path with Med as opposed to Thuya, Nat-S or Silicea? I keep reading that these other remedies will work for sycosis and that the most important thing to do is always match the patient's picture with the remedy and don't treat in isolation.
Is his picture really Med, or can it be Silicea, for example???
Thank you.
I have mandarine oranges and I use them instead as they don't seem to affect him as much. FYI...we also make him a juice four or five times a week (it has protein powder, kale, spinach, fruit like strawberries, pineapples etc.). We have been doing that for over a year now...we bought a great Vitamix which works really well.
His mood today, unchanged. He did say that he was letting out gas all day at school and that it was actually smelly. His stool today was again, small and black.
How sure are you that Med is the correct remedy? My daughter took Med 1M in 2004 and it never affected her this way. Are we missing the mark possibly? Typically I find that they work inside, outside and then top to bottom ...something like that. This is acting much differently than I've seen other remedies work. I want to be patient, and of course I will be, but a the same time I don't want us to be blind if this is trying to point us to the needed remedy. What are your reasons for feeling my son is on the right path with Med as opposed to Thuya, Nat-S or Silicea? I keep reading that these other remedies will work for sycosis and that the most important thing to do is always match the patient's picture with the remedy and don't treat in isolation.
Is his picture really Med, or can it be Silicea, for example???
Thank you.
l471530 last decade
The medicine works correctly, of course: from top to bottom, means first was a change in the mood (head), but because the first dose already was too big, it produced a similliar aggravation (the mood previously associated with allergies) rather then amelioration. Ideally, we should have stopped right there and adjusted the dose. Then it went down: nausea, stomachache, legs. It worked inside out too: starting from energy increase from within (up to being hot), ending up on the skin - improving the color, producing discharge from the nose, profuse sweating. This axis worked better, than vertical.
About your daughter and Med. I do not believe Med didn't do anything. Medicine that does not produce visual improvement still does its job by sending a message to the body. Whether or not the body can follow depends on other things, like suppression with allopatic drugs, previous homeopathy and so on. In such cases, the medicine starts working as soon as the blockage is removed. I've seen it in my patients. Modern homeopathy is MUCH more complicated than 200 years ago, just because people abuse immunizations, drugs, antibiotics and other substances, add environmental chemicals here. If something helped your daughter, count Med as well. Your son is a different person than your daughter (I suspect he has Aspergers), but no medicine works the same for 2 different people.
What do you call a correct medicine? I wonder why you doubt Med? If we are to treat only asthma, then there might be a lot of quick fixes out there. What I found, I think, is a constitutional medicine, it should take care of many problems. It already removed paleness, the last symptom acquired (that's why I asked you when it appeared, remember? you said, - before the thread was started), - a correct medicine would do it. Sorry about aggravation again.
And besides, you can always ask a second opinion. In this case, I strongly advise it to be a CLASSICAL homeopath who can actually see the child.
NowFoods has MethyB12 5000mcg lozenges containing folic acid in them. He does not need oranges with these.
About your daughter and Med. I do not believe Med didn't do anything. Medicine that does not produce visual improvement still does its job by sending a message to the body. Whether or not the body can follow depends on other things, like suppression with allopatic drugs, previous homeopathy and so on. In such cases, the medicine starts working as soon as the blockage is removed. I've seen it in my patients. Modern homeopathy is MUCH more complicated than 200 years ago, just because people abuse immunizations, drugs, antibiotics and other substances, add environmental chemicals here. If something helped your daughter, count Med as well. Your son is a different person than your daughter (I suspect he has Aspergers), but no medicine works the same for 2 different people.
What do you call a correct medicine? I wonder why you doubt Med? If we are to treat only asthma, then there might be a lot of quick fixes out there. What I found, I think, is a constitutional medicine, it should take care of many problems. It already removed paleness, the last symptom acquired (that's why I asked you when it appeared, remember? you said, - before the thread was started), - a correct medicine would do it. Sorry about aggravation again.
And besides, you can always ask a second opinion. In this case, I strongly advise it to be a CLASSICAL homeopath who can actually see the child.
NowFoods has MethyB12 5000mcg lozenges containing folic acid in them. He does not need oranges with these.
Lylla last decade
Please don't misunderstand me...I am not doubting you, but rather I want to keep asking the questions so we don't overlook. I am happy with your discussion regarding how it is working. I am more than happy to continue working with you and helping the body to heal in a wholelistic method.
In terms of my daughter, you probably are correct that it worked but with a large dose, I don't think you always see the quick changes like the smaller potencies (maybe I'm wrong but it does appear as the smaller potencies work quicker in the body).
In terms of Aspergers, I have actually always felt my daughter was somewhere on the Autistic Spectrum, more towards Aspergers as she had a 140 IQ...but who am I. My son, not sure what his IQ is but I do believe he has a much more subtle case of something along the same line but it presents itself in a much more less obvious way...if that makes any sense.
I did want to mention that my son came home yesterday and he was cold and had a hood over his head (not seen that before -- it was for only an hr). He went to soccer practice last night and when he came home, he said his legs were very sore and tired.
I will proceed as you have asked and continue to update you. Please let me know if there are specific things I should look for.
[message edited by l471530 on Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:39:35 GMT]
In terms of my daughter, you probably are correct that it worked but with a large dose, I don't think you always see the quick changes like the smaller potencies (maybe I'm wrong but it does appear as the smaller potencies work quicker in the body).
In terms of Aspergers, I have actually always felt my daughter was somewhere on the Autistic Spectrum, more towards Aspergers as she had a 140 IQ...but who am I. My son, not sure what his IQ is but I do believe he has a much more subtle case of something along the same line but it presents itself in a much more less obvious way...if that makes any sense.
I did want to mention that my son came home yesterday and he was cold and had a hood over his head (not seen that before -- it was for only an hr). He went to soccer practice last night and when he came home, he said his legs were very sore and tired.
I will proceed as you have asked and continue to update you. Please let me know if there are specific things I should look for.
[message edited by l471530 on Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:39:35 GMT]
l471530 last decade
I think it is important that you know my son did seem to engage much more with other kids and was pretty social all the way up through 6th grade. It is then I notice that he was not engaging other kids the same way as before.He played a lot of sports and therefore he was able to be around a lot of kids and was always having fun and spending time with his friends.
I did notice that in school, teachers never really got to know my child or engaged in him. His 5th grade teacher said to me...I think your son finally began to share who he was at the end of the school year...he never let me get to know him.
I did notice that in school, teachers never really got to know my child or engaged in him. His 5th grade teacher said to me...I think your son finally began to share who he was at the end of the school year...he never let me get to know him.
l471530 last decade
Dr,
I did feel the need to make some additional comments as I try to work through all this information. My daughter, yes I know she is not my son but I also learned a lot through many many years of various treatments with her, was never diagnosed Autistic or Aspergers...she was diagnosed ADHD and had auditory processing deficiencies. It was my belief then, and still today, that she had some form of autism, high functioning for sure....Aspergers, maybe.
In any event, back in 2003, I began taking my daughter an hour away to see a DAN (Defeat Autism Now), and my daughter was on zinc, magnesium, B-12 shots because sublingual was not working, etc. We went through a lot and after many years, it was not until I saw the benefits of homeopathy with my daughter that I became a believer of homeopathy.
It is interesting because I never really saw my son with anything as severe as my daughter , in terms of autism, but I do know there were a few moments, I scratched my head and thought I hope this isn't...
I do know that with my son, even with these subtle examples that everything may not be 100% okay, it appeared as though whatever he had was minimal until a few years ago...and even then it was not an obvious problem. I would say it was not until I gave him the Bartya Carb. that I began to see more signs. Could there be anything I did to bring this out via homeopathy? Could it have been almost dormant, to some extent, and then revealed via homeopathy? My concern right now is I am seeing a side of my son that I can't say is the person I know...he is just so sad and unhappy.
I am more than happy to continue to give his supplements etc., as you have prescribed but my gut is telling me that this is not going to make a difference. He was on a gluten free diet for many years...he's done the magnesium and zinc. He's never done the Quercertin and B12 (like my daughter), so its worth a try but my gut is telling me that we will have more success with homeopathy. I remember the doctor telling me back in 2003, that 94% of children get help from B12 and the rest don't...couldn't explain at that time why it didn't work for all...hopefully my son is different than my daughter and this will make some sort of difference...I will pray .
Just wanted to share with you.
BTW, no changes in my son...still unhappy and sad, still a cough, nasal congestion still there, hoarseness in throat still there, energy level low.
I'll keep you posted.
I did feel the need to make some additional comments as I try to work through all this information. My daughter, yes I know she is not my son but I also learned a lot through many many years of various treatments with her, was never diagnosed Autistic or Aspergers...she was diagnosed ADHD and had auditory processing deficiencies. It was my belief then, and still today, that she had some form of autism, high functioning for sure....Aspergers, maybe.
In any event, back in 2003, I began taking my daughter an hour away to see a DAN (Defeat Autism Now), and my daughter was on zinc, magnesium, B-12 shots because sublingual was not working, etc. We went through a lot and after many years, it was not until I saw the benefits of homeopathy with my daughter that I became a believer of homeopathy.
It is interesting because I never really saw my son with anything as severe as my daughter , in terms of autism, but I do know there were a few moments, I scratched my head and thought I hope this isn't...
I do know that with my son, even with these subtle examples that everything may not be 100% okay, it appeared as though whatever he had was minimal until a few years ago...and even then it was not an obvious problem. I would say it was not until I gave him the Bartya Carb. that I began to see more signs. Could there be anything I did to bring this out via homeopathy? Could it have been almost dormant, to some extent, and then revealed via homeopathy? My concern right now is I am seeing a side of my son that I can't say is the person I know...he is just so sad and unhappy.
I am more than happy to continue to give his supplements etc., as you have prescribed but my gut is telling me that this is not going to make a difference. He was on a gluten free diet for many years...he's done the magnesium and zinc. He's never done the Quercertin and B12 (like my daughter), so its worth a try but my gut is telling me that we will have more success with homeopathy. I remember the doctor telling me back in 2003, that 94% of children get help from B12 and the rest don't...couldn't explain at that time why it didn't work for all...hopefully my son is different than my daughter and this will make some sort of difference...I will pray .
Just wanted to share with you.
BTW, no changes in my son...still unhappy and sad, still a cough, nasal congestion still there, hoarseness in throat still there, energy level low.
I'll keep you posted.
l471530 last decade
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mahnazx5 last decade
I agree supplements are not the answer, it is only temporary since there is no homeopathy yet.
Does he go to bed early, tired?
Is he still cold or it was one time?
Did paleness return?
Did energy level decrease?
Did he have reactions on regular childrens immunizations?
Does he go to bed early, tired?
Is he still cold or it was one time?
Did paleness return?
Did energy level decrease?
Did he have reactions on regular childrens immunizations?
Lylla last decade
Just that one day he went to bed really early...see earlier post. Last night, he did go to his room and watched a video on his laptop with headphones on...I don't remember him ever doing that before. He said he was tired and his neck was sore. AFter 1/2 hr or so, he came layed by me and I gave him a neck massage. He then went to play Xbox (video game he plays against friends). He went to bed usual time.
He has not been unusually cold since that one time.
He is looking a little more pale...not as white as he initially did but not the color I mentioned in earlier post. Energy level, since initial...increased but hasn't increased in the last few days...I would say not really low and not good.
Children immunizations...I don't remember if ever having reaction. I can share just a thought I have had for many years. When I was pregnant with my daughter I ate a lot of swordfish (at that time, there was not all the information about mercury as there as been the past 10 years. I also use to eat a lot of tuna fish...a staple of mine throughout college and when I first had my children. Even when I had Justin I think I was still eating a lot of tunafish...so I often wonder if there is any mercury related issues that may have caused this. In terms of both my children, I just can't say I ever remember thinking something changed after they got an immunization.
Isn't it unusual for someone to have 2 of 2 children with a form of autism?
I do want to remind you that my son was very colicky and so if he reacted to any of his shots, it is not something I may have attributed to that.
Thank you.
[message edited by l471530 on Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:23:49 GMT]
He has not been unusually cold since that one time.
He is looking a little more pale...not as white as he initially did but not the color I mentioned in earlier post. Energy level, since initial...increased but hasn't increased in the last few days...I would say not really low and not good.
Children immunizations...I don't remember if ever having reaction. I can share just a thought I have had for many years. When I was pregnant with my daughter I ate a lot of swordfish (at that time, there was not all the information about mercury as there as been the past 10 years. I also use to eat a lot of tuna fish...a staple of mine throughout college and when I first had my children. Even when I had Justin I think I was still eating a lot of tunafish...so I often wonder if there is any mercury related issues that may have caused this. In terms of both my children, I just can't say I ever remember thinking something changed after they got an immunization.
Isn't it unusual for someone to have 2 of 2 children with a form of autism?
I do want to remind you that my son was very colicky and so if he reacted to any of his shots, it is not something I may have attributed to that.
Thank you.
[message edited by l471530 on Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:23:49 GMT]
l471530 last decade
You mentioned he started to talk and to walk late. Did he have fluctuations in speech development during first 3 years of life, like better in the beginning, worse later, than again better? Did he crawl?
Lylla last decade
I have been reading a book I bought years ago when I was going through this with my daughter...The Homeopathic Treatment of Children by Herscu.
I am reading the section on Tuberculinum and it seems to be fitting this case to a tea...It references quite often Med and Baryta Carbonica and how they can easily be mistaken. He also talks a lot about Allergy induced Asthma and behaviors that fit my son.
http://books.google.com/books?id=uLoNHLf_NfIC&pg=PA303&a...
Do you have experience with this remedy? I do not.
Also look at this site...
http://hpathy.com/cause-symptoms-treatment/the-use-of-homoeo....
It lists some allergies and then remedies...my son has terrible reaction (and has been tested) to dog dander, milk, eggs and oranges...not to mention other ones that are environmental. But these tend to impact his asthmatic symptoms...and all but oranges reflect tuberculinum.
Please let me know your thoughts.
I am reading the section on Tuberculinum and it seems to be fitting this case to a tea...It references quite often Med and Baryta Carbonica and how they can easily be mistaken. He also talks a lot about Allergy induced Asthma and behaviors that fit my son.
http://books.google.com/books?id=uLoNHLf_NfIC&pg=PA303&a...
Do you have experience with this remedy? I do not.
Also look at this site...
http://hpathy.com/cause-symptoms-treatment/the-use-of-homoeo....
It lists some allergies and then remedies...my son has terrible reaction (and has been tested) to dog dander, milk, eggs and oranges...not to mention other ones that are environmental. But these tend to impact his asthmatic symptoms...and all but oranges reflect tuberculinum.
Please let me know your thoughts.
l471530 last decade
I can't say for certain if he was a late walker or talker...he was definitely a chubby baby.
His thirst seems to be average now...it was only that one day that he stated he was less thirsty than usual.
I have notice that his acne was improving a little since he's taken Med...now it is coming back.
His thirst seems to be average now...it was only that one day that he stated he was less thirsty than usual.
I have notice that his acne was improving a little since he's taken Med...now it is coming back.
l471530 last decade
In addition to the change in acne, I have notice that the past 3 days, his appetite was better and now it is not as good.
Much melancholia and sadness...didn't even want to go to soccer practice tonight...all he does is watch tv, video and homework. Initially he was too sick and that was okay but almost 2 weeks later and he has had physical improvement but little mental improvement...something is not right. In the past I would have given something to him to address the acute which addressed both physical and mental...now mental is not good.
Much melancholia and sadness...didn't even want to go to soccer practice tonight...all he does is watch tv, video and homework. Initially he was too sick and that was okay but almost 2 weeks later and he has had physical improvement but little mental improvement...something is not right. In the past I would have given something to him to address the acute which addressed both physical and mental...now mental is not good.
l471530 last decade
If I look to see when he passed out it was 1/23...and he hasn't fully recovered since then...it is now 2/12. I believe he took Med end of Jan...so almost 2 weeks ago. with a 30C small dose. What are you thinking right now? What do you think is the case...Med is working or not working? I don't think many changes are from the Med...I believe he received a virus that was going around school (lot's of kids were out of school) and because he is plagued with this history of asthma and allergies (which, yes I want to correct) and he has gotten better physically from that but mentally, the Med is making him worse. Maybe Med is correct, but not until we fix some other things prior to giving him Med. Everything I read is you must first address any acutes before chronic. Maybe we need to address his acute and then go back to the chronic. I think his acute is throat with respiratory trouble and depression or bad melancholy.
Does this make any sense to you. We can't ignore the acute...this is where someone commits suicide as we are trying to fix their chronic asthma. Doesn't seem reasonable. Again, maybe we have to go back to Med after we just get his body (mental and physical) feeling half way decent.
Does this make any sense to you. We can't ignore the acute...this is where someone commits suicide as we are trying to fix their chronic asthma. Doesn't seem reasonable. Again, maybe we have to go back to Med after we just get his body (mental and physical) feeling half way decent.
l471530 last decade
He always has sweaty smelly feet but last night was the first time, I actually couldn't even be next to him because they smelled so bad.
His cough may be increasing a little, if I didn't already mention that.
He was singing a little in the shower (he typically loves to sing in the shower and does it a lot when he is feeling himself). I can't say it was much, but I could tell he was trying to get it back.
Last night when he came home from soccer practice, he said mom I'm just always so tired and feel tired and by bones just seem to ache.
Again, please let me know your thoughts and direction. Thank you.
His cough may be increasing a little, if I didn't already mention that.
He was singing a little in the shower (he typically loves to sing in the shower and does it a lot when he is feeling himself). I can't say it was much, but I could tell he was trying to get it back.
Last night when he came home from soccer practice, he said mom I'm just always so tired and feel tired and by bones just seem to ache.
Again, please let me know your thoughts and direction. Thank you.
l471530 last decade
Doctor,
I also have Herscu's other book Stamonium...not that I am necessarily recommending this remedy, but he is very clear that there are Phases are you are best to prescribe the indications at the highest level first. He gives an example of Med and Strammonium and if they are both indicated you are best to go to the higher level Strammonium otherwise you may treat the physical but only find that they are more aggressive. He is very clear that you need to stop prescribing Med and move quickly to Strammonium. This is an example...but illustrates what I believe we may have here. We may need a different remedy right now.
BTW, as I continue to read before sending this post...he may actually need Stramonium right now. I know my daughter seemed to get caught in this endless loop of Lycopodium, Med and Strammonium and was getting deeper in depression etc. That is when I went to visit Herscu and he told her to take Veratrum which was no doubt the best thing that ever happened to her...not to say she doesn't have a ways to go but it make a significant difference.
I am thinking we are in the same situations...I can see him closing off and his mood and energy level are the significant piece right now...not his allergies and asthma. Based on Hercu's Cycle concept, we have to pick the remedy for the cycle they are currently in and at the highest level. Again, we may come back to Med but its not what he needs right now.
He took Baryta three times, although it did help him with school work initially, he also initially grew and was doing well, he began to turn into himself and closed himself off from people. This is my assessment. Looking at Herscu's Phases...both Baryta Carb and Stramonium are in Phase III which is higher than Med...and he is closing himself off. So using his cycles and phases, I am thinking either we go to STramonium or to a Phase 4 remedy. Again, based on my experience with my daughter and what I am reading...I am leaning towards a Phase IV remedy that treats his current issues.
What are your thoughts?
Editing this because I just saw an article that specifically addressed Baryta Carb turning into either Stram. or Phase 4 remedy...
http://healthstriver.blogspot.com/2008/07/add-and-adhd.html
[message edited by l471530 on Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:30:49 GMT]
I also have Herscu's other book Stamonium...not that I am necessarily recommending this remedy, but he is very clear that there are Phases are you are best to prescribe the indications at the highest level first. He gives an example of Med and Strammonium and if they are both indicated you are best to go to the higher level Strammonium otherwise you may treat the physical but only find that they are more aggressive. He is very clear that you need to stop prescribing Med and move quickly to Strammonium. This is an example...but illustrates what I believe we may have here. We may need a different remedy right now.
BTW, as I continue to read before sending this post...he may actually need Stramonium right now. I know my daughter seemed to get caught in this endless loop of Lycopodium, Med and Strammonium and was getting deeper in depression etc. That is when I went to visit Herscu and he told her to take Veratrum which was no doubt the best thing that ever happened to her...not to say she doesn't have a ways to go but it make a significant difference.
I am thinking we are in the same situations...I can see him closing off and his mood and energy level are the significant piece right now...not his allergies and asthma. Based on Hercu's Cycle concept, we have to pick the remedy for the cycle they are currently in and at the highest level. Again, we may come back to Med but its not what he needs right now.
He took Baryta three times, although it did help him with school work initially, he also initially grew and was doing well, he began to turn into himself and closed himself off from people. This is my assessment. Looking at Herscu's Phases...both Baryta Carb and Stramonium are in Phase III which is higher than Med...and he is closing himself off. So using his cycles and phases, I am thinking either we go to STramonium or to a Phase 4 remedy. Again, based on my experience with my daughter and what I am reading...I am leaning towards a Phase IV remedy that treats his current issues.
What are your thoughts?
Editing this because I just saw an article that specifically addressed Baryta Carb turning into either Stram. or Phase 4 remedy...
http://healthstriver.blogspot.com/2008/07/add-and-adhd.html
[message edited by l471530 on Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:30:49 GMT]
l471530 last decade
Here's a great article discussing the Phases of Herscu...please read and let me know if you agree.
http://nesh.positronicdesign.com/course-seminar-offerings/co....
I am also thinking that my daughter and son are very different in the way they react that I could see my daughter following the more aggressive...in her case Veratrum...and my son the more passive Helleborous
Excerpt...
The group of phase IV remedies are of a similar dichotomous nature, with one branch sharing the passive nature of Baryta carbonica (Cannabis indica, Opium, Helleborus, etc.) and the other the aggressive nature of Stramonium (Hyoscyamus, Tarentula hispanica, Veratrum album, etc.) This stage signifies an further development an intensification of both of these unconscious tendencies.
Helleborus niger can be used when there is a severe level of mental dullness that resembles a stupor, that accompanies an inability to concentrate and a weak memory. This remedy, which is often referred to as the Christmas Rose or the Black Hellebore, can also help with a decrease in vision and hearing and with depression.
Helleborus niger can be used when there is a severe level of mental dullness that resembles a stupor, that accompanies an inability to concentrate and a weak memory. This remedy, which is often referred to as the Christmas Rose or the Black Hellebore, can also help with a decrease in vision and hearing and with depression.
Helleborus niger can be used when there is a severe level of mental dullness that resembles a stupor, that accompanies an inability to concentrate and a weak memory. This remedy, which is often referred to as the Christmas Rose or the Black Hellebore, can also help with a decrease in vision and hearing and with depression.
There is also a book Approach to Asperger Syndrome and Autism by Reichenbert-Ullman and she has cases using the following remedies...note Helleborus is one of them
Among the remedies utilized are the Baryta salts, Lyssin, Stramonium, Helleborus, Nuphar Luteum, Mercurius, Cina, China, Carcinosin, Panther, Syphillinum, Oenanthe, Chocolate, Spigelia, Theridion, and Belladonna.
Excerpt...
This fits my son and was actually a selected remedy for someone...
We chose this medicine primarily because of William's habit of staring off into space hypnotically while twisting wire, his slow pace, and strong sensitivity to pain
Please let me know your thoughts.
http://nesh.positronicdesign.com/course-seminar-offerings/co....
I am also thinking that my daughter and son are very different in the way they react that I could see my daughter following the more aggressive...in her case Veratrum...and my son the more passive Helleborous
Excerpt...
The group of phase IV remedies are of a similar dichotomous nature, with one branch sharing the passive nature of Baryta carbonica (Cannabis indica, Opium, Helleborus, etc.) and the other the aggressive nature of Stramonium (Hyoscyamus, Tarentula hispanica, Veratrum album, etc.) This stage signifies an further development an intensification of both of these unconscious tendencies.
Helleborus niger can be used when there is a severe level of mental dullness that resembles a stupor, that accompanies an inability to concentrate and a weak memory. This remedy, which is often referred to as the Christmas Rose or the Black Hellebore, can also help with a decrease in vision and hearing and with depression.
Helleborus niger can be used when there is a severe level of mental dullness that resembles a stupor, that accompanies an inability to concentrate and a weak memory. This remedy, which is often referred to as the Christmas Rose or the Black Hellebore, can also help with a decrease in vision and hearing and with depression.
Helleborus niger can be used when there is a severe level of mental dullness that resembles a stupor, that accompanies an inability to concentrate and a weak memory. This remedy, which is often referred to as the Christmas Rose or the Black Hellebore, can also help with a decrease in vision and hearing and with depression.
There is also a book Approach to Asperger Syndrome and Autism by Reichenbert-Ullman and she has cases using the following remedies...note Helleborus is one of them
Among the remedies utilized are the Baryta salts, Lyssin, Stramonium, Helleborus, Nuphar Luteum, Mercurius, Cina, China, Carcinosin, Panther, Syphillinum, Oenanthe, Chocolate, Spigelia, Theridion, and Belladonna.
Excerpt...
This fits my son and was actually a selected remedy for someone...
We chose this medicine primarily because of William's habit of staring off into space hypnotically while twisting wire, his slow pace, and strong sensitivity to pain
Please let me know your thoughts.
l471530 last decade
You are absolutely right, a new balance emerging right now requires a different medicine.
I appreciate your active participation. To make a search more correct and productive, I would like to advice to pay close attention not only to the symptoms alone, but to the AGE in connection to the symptoms. Your son is at the very particular stage of his life - puberty, and symptoms of young kids do not necessarily apply here.
I noticed a few signs of shifting to the Thuja state. I am listing them here, please, correct me or confirm:
- Desire to play alone (video, no sport practice),
- Irritability (still there?)
- Reserved, timid (does not engage, now more than before)
- Unhappiness (melancholy)
- Being cold (new, one time only, but there)
- Lack of energy, fatigue
- Food sensitivities (mostly milk, oranges belong to Med. Is he better in tolerating oranges now?)
- Abdominal pain
- Growing pains (legs)
- Going to bed early (new, one time only, but there)
We have to wait one more week before we can say that he is permanently in a new state ( one week for each dose of previous medicine); you noticed he tries to be himself, it is not over yet, remember, he has gone through aggravation.
I appreciate your active participation. To make a search more correct and productive, I would like to advice to pay close attention not only to the symptoms alone, but to the AGE in connection to the symptoms. Your son is at the very particular stage of his life - puberty, and symptoms of young kids do not necessarily apply here.
I noticed a few signs of shifting to the Thuja state. I am listing them here, please, correct me or confirm:
- Desire to play alone (video, no sport practice),
- Irritability (still there?)
- Reserved, timid (does not engage, now more than before)
- Unhappiness (melancholy)
- Being cold (new, one time only, but there)
- Lack of energy, fatigue
- Food sensitivities (mostly milk, oranges belong to Med. Is he better in tolerating oranges now?)
- Abdominal pain
- Growing pains (legs)
- Going to bed early (new, one time only, but there)
We have to wait one more week before we can say that he is permanently in a new state ( one week for each dose of previous medicine); you noticed he tries to be himself, it is not over yet, remember, he has gone through aggravation.
Lylla last decade
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