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Thuya is ok.
Read on the bottle how much is a dose.
Astra2012 last decade
Hello Astra 2012

I have given Fred the dry dose of Thuja 30x. The first day it seemed to soften the mass and the massaging was a lot more productive. Then it stopped. I waited at least a week and went through the process again without much help. I know I should have sought your advice before adventuring on my own.

Fred will not eat the flax oil on cottage cheese. He won't even eat the cottage without the flax now. I do put it on his meals now and that is acceptible to him.

fredkiwi last decade
it was a 'pilot' dose of Thuya--to see how he and it agree. What you nee to do now is preparing the wet dose of Thuya 30x. I copied the previous iretions:

Get thuya 30x, drop one dose (usually 5 pellets) in the half liter bottle half filled with water, mix well until pellets dissolve,-this is your ss=stock solution, or rsb=remedy solution bottle.

Every day, half an hour at least after his night meal, succuse ss 10x (pound at the palm of other hand- this 'funny' way you potentize the remedy making it a bit stronger), take about teaspoon to half glass of water, mix, give him a teaspoon of that and discard the rest.

Do you know 'Spoontaneous healing' by dr. Andrew Weil. He successfully treated his dogs's tumor by appplying on it the BLOOROOT (herb) paste!
(in that case fortunately the tumor was placed beyond the reach of the dog's tongue)
Astra2012 last decade
Astra2012 last decade
1.very chronic right ear discharge for the past 25 years daily
2.right ear tinnitus
3.any slight chill weather,chnage of weather,eating cucumber,watery vegitables and spicy food gets me to allergic condtiionand the very next day my throat pains and nose blocked
4.next day there is body pain and slight fever and pain all over the body
5 I am not diabetic and have hypertension 170/90 and hypetrophy of the left ventricle under allopathy medication for this amalodophine tables.
6.Allways there is fear for known and sometimes unknown resons.I do not like the job and has lot of aversion to it.
6.there is always constant nose stoppage alternatively
7.Mind fear,depression,fear of being alone in dark
8Head catarrah of the head
with frontal head ache
8ear:chronic discharge like glue for over 25 years from the right ear at about 10am
9stomach hyperacidity and intolerance of oil,and fried
10.abodemen bloted after eating a little
urine:smells that of horse or cattle urine and have no
problems of irritation or any disconfort
11.stool constpation and evacuation of bowels only after drinking coffee
12sleep sleepy during evening at 6 pm and does not get sleep up to 12 in the
generalities:cannot tolarate slight draft of cool air,rain and clody weather like hydrogeniod constitution and burning pain near the right big toe and normal im thrist less and drink very least amount of water.DEsires coffee and food and drink very hot and always pain beneth the shoulders.Pressure > pain
i have already taken calcarb,lycopodium,nitric acid,eupperf,natsulf,thuja,mercrius viva,nuxvom,phytollacca,dulcamera,kalicbichromicum,tellurim,silica,carboveg,pulsat,kalicarb,eupperf,sticta,streptoccocus and so on but there is no relief and request you to prescribe me a remedy with the totality of the symptoms and relieve my very long standing chronci problem
sampath last decade
Sampath: I did open a new thread for you!Here yu could easily be overlooked...
Astra2012 last decade
I will follow your new instructions.
How do I make a bloodroot paste? I have a product (Bitter Apple)from the pet store that tastes nasty so he probably would not lick it.
I did not receive email that you had responded. This has happened before so I check the forum regularly.
Thank you for your response.
fredkiwi last decade
freshly ground blooroot root + very small amount of water
would make a perfect paste!

however if you need it to be more sticky (it may crumble...) I think you may add small amount of vaseline or e.g.A + D ointment

(all of it is my honest 'guess' - he writtes no recipe and I ner tried it myself)
Astra2012 last decade
Astra2012 last decade
respected dr.astra2012,
thanking you very much for your reply.I have no knowledge of your kind words that 'I did open a new thread for you' sincerly I do not know what it means and how to find the thread.If you want to help this suffering soul kindly reply for helping me to find the 'thread' and god be with you in all your good deeds
patiently yours
sampath last decade
Hello Sampath

The thread title is 'blocked nose and chronc ear discharge (Sampath)' - you will find it above this one - which is titled 'black lab with black ear discharge'
Astra2012 last decade
Hello Astra2012

A quick question is blooroot the same as bloodroot. My searches bring up both.

It occurred to me that if sampath is having trouble finding the correct thread perhaps it would be easier to just have him replace the last numbers of the above address line with the correct forum number, if you know what it. Then hit enter.
As you know it has taken me a while to catch on to the lingo(thread,etc).
Thank you again.
fredkiwi last decade
Sorry for the typo
Astra2012 last decade
Sampath: this is your thread

Astra2012 last decade
Hello Astra2012. I hope you are still there. I just had to re-register, I suppose because it has been so long.
I just wanted to update you on Fred.
The Thuja 30X does not seem to be working on his lipomas. You can massage them down some but they are back to size soon.
In regards to silica 6x for his ears, as long as I keep him on the 6x they stay fairly clean but there always seems to be a little discharge deep in the ear that can be barely seen.
THANKS !!!!!
fredkiwi last decade
If there is any chance your 'fatty' tumors are sebaceous cysts (which I suspect given you can manually get then to reduce with massage) then Baryata Carb is the remedy you need...but it also clears fatty tumors as does Calcarea Carbonica.... Also both remedies would cover the ear problems... (Treating the totality of the symptoms)

I would start with the Bar Carb... 30C once a week for a month...leave the ears alone with minimal cleaning... The ears should clear up and the tumors reduce within a month... if not then switch to Calc Carb 30C....

Best wishes
Monty1 last decade
Hello Fredkiwi,
If Thuya doesn't work-drop it.
Silica really seems to be his remedy (TOTALITY OF SYMPTOMS a Monty would say)- can you get homeopathic silica 12c ? Water dose every day--as described previously, for a month--but stop completely if any reaction.

frankly I see no indication for bar-c or calc-- but of course I can be wrong.
Astra2012 last decade
Hello Astra2012 and Monty1

I have only been able to find Silica 6x or 30x in the past. I do have the 30x so would I be able to use this.
I have not seen bar carb or calc carb but can look again. Finding things here are pretty much hit and miss.
Thank you for your response.
fredkiwi last decade
12c is roughly 24x, so 30x is a bit stronger but ok too.

Give it in water -shaking well before (if you go silica-way)
Astra2012 last decade

I am not sure if this is going to work but I thought I would give it a try and reference Kent..

Head, hair, baldness, patches : apis., calc., graph., hep., lyc., phos., sep.

Ear, discharges : absin., aeth., all-c., alum., alumn., am-c., am-m., anac., anan., ant-c., apis., ars-i., ars., arund., asaf., aur., bar-c., bar-m., bell., bor., bov., brom., bry., bufo-r., calc-f., calc-p., calc-s., calc., caps., carb-an., carb-s., carb-v., cast., caust., cham., chin., cic., cist., coc-c., colch., con., cop., crot-c., crot-h., crot-t., cur., elaps., ery-a., ferr-ar., ferr-p., ferr., fl-ac., graph., hep., hipp., hydr., iod., jug-r., kali-ar., kali-bi., kali-c., kali-p., kali-s., kreos., lach., lachn., Lues., lyc., meny., meph., merc-c., merc., nat-m., nat-s., nit-ac., petr., phos., psor., puls., rhus-t., sal-ac., sang., sel., sep., sil., spig., sulph., tarent., tell., tep., thu., vesp., zinc.

Ear, discharges, left : ferr., graph., psor.

Ear, discharges, fetid : ars-i., ars., aur., bov., calc., carb-ac., carb-s., carb-v., cist., cub., elaps., hep., kali-ar., kali-bi., kali-c., meph., merc-c., merc., nit-ac., psor., sal-ac., sep., sulph., tell., thu., zinc.

Ear, discharges, offensive : ars., asaf., aur., bar-m., bov., calc-s., calc., carb-s., carb-v., caust., chin., cist., crot-h., elaps., ery-a., ferr-ar., fl-ac., graph., hep., hydr., kali-ar., kali-bi., kali-c., kali-p., kali-s., kreos., lyc., mang., meph., merc-c., merc., nit-ac., ol-j., psor., puls., sep., sil., sul-ac., sulph., tell., thu., tub., zinc.

Ear, discharges, thick : calc-s., calc., carb-v., ery-a., hydr., kali-bi., kali-chl., lyc., nat-m., puls., sep., sil., tarent.

Back, tumors, fatty, on neck : bar-c., calc., thu.

Extremities, tumors, shoulder, fatty : am-m.

Sleep, position, side, left : bar-c., bor., mag-m., sabin.

Generalities, bathing, the affected part amel. : alum., am-m., ant-t., ars., asar., bor., bry., caust., cham., chel., euphr., laur., mag-c., mez., mur-ac., nux-v., puls., rhod., sabad., sep., spig., staph., zinc.

Generalities, indurations, glands, knotty like ropes : bar-m., calc., cist., con., dulc., hep., iod., lyc., rhus-t., sil., tub.

Generalities, indurations, glands, nodes under the skin, like : bry., calc., caust., mag-c., nit-ac.

Generalities, lying, side on, amel. : acon., alum., am-c., am-m., arn., ars., bar-c., bell., bor., bry., calc-p., canth., caust., cham., chin., cina., clem., cocc., colch., cupr., dulc., eupho., ign., iod., kali-c., lach., nat-m., nux-v., par., phos., plat., ran-b., rhus-t., sep., spig., spong., stront., sulph., thu.

Generalities, obesity : agar., am-m., ambr., ant-c., asaf., aur., bar-c., bor., bry., calc-ars., calc., camph., canth., caps., chin., cocc., con., cupr., eupho., ferr., graph., guai., iod., ip., kali-bi., kali-c., lac-d., lach., laur., lyc., mag-c., merc., mur-ac., nat-c., nux-m., olnd., op., plat., plb., puls., sabad., sars., seneg., sep., sil., spig., spong., sulph., thu., verat.

Generalities, side, symptoms on one side : aesc., agar., agn., alum., am-c., am-m., ambr., anac., ant-c., ant-t., aphis., arg-m., arg-n., arn., ars., asaf., asar., aur., bar-c., bar-m., bell., bism-ox., bor., bry., calc., camph., cann-s., canth., caps., carb-an., carb-v., caust., cham., chel., chin., cic., cina., clem., cocc., coff., colch., coloc., con., croc., cupr., cycl., dig., dros., dulc., eupho., euphr., ferr., graph., guai., hell., hep., hyos., ign., iod., iris., kali-c., kali-n., kali-p., kreos., lach., laur., led., lyc., lyss., mag-c., mag-m., mang., meny., merc., mez., mosch., mur-ac., nat-c., nat-m., nit-ac., nux-m., nux-v., olnd., par., petr., ph-ac., phos., plat., plb., puls., ran-b., ran-s., rheum., rhod., rhus-t., ruta., sabad., sabin., samb., sars., scil., sel., seneg., sep., sil., spig., spong., stann., staph., stront., sul-ac., sulph., tarax., teucr., thu., valer., verat., verb., viol-o., viol-t., zinc.

Generalities, side, left : acon., act-r., all-c., aloe., am-br., anac., ant-c., ant-t., apis., arg-m., arg-n., arn., arum-t., asaf., asar., asc-t., aster., aur-m-n., bar-m., berb., bism-ox., brom., bry., calc., cann-s., canth., caps., caust., cham., chel., chin., cina., clem., cocc., colch., coloc., croc., crot-t., cupr., dulc., eupho., euphr., ferr-p., ferr., gels., graph., guai., hep., ign., ip., iris., kali-chl., kreos., lach., lith., mag-m., mang., meny., merc-c., merc-i-r., merc., mez., mosch., mur-ac., naja., nat-s., nit-ac., nux-m., olnd., onos., osm., ox-ac., par., phos., phys., plb., ran-b., ran-s., rhod., sabin., sal-ac., scil., sel., sep., sil., spig., stann., staph., stront., sul-ac., sulph., tab., tarax., teucr., ther., thu., ust., vesp., viol-o., viol-t., xan.
Monty1 last decade
Well that went well....

If you work this through....you get the following....

Calc 24/11
Graph 16/7
Sul 15/7
Sil 15/7
Lyc 15/7
Sep 14/10
Bar C 9/6

Where the first number is the sum of grades of the remedy and the 2nd number is the occurance of the remedy.
Monty1 last decade
I had suggested Bar C… because I have had experience with it removing lipomas (fatty tumors)…..and you can see it has a high affinity for them on the back particularly in the neck area…. It also covers some of the others symptoms present…..

However…. In reviewing this case…. I would like to correct my original suggestion…. In my view the Calcarea Carbonica 30C potency… one dose of 3 pellets weekly NOT daily..Would be more appropriate to start…. If no improvement within the month… then the Baryata Carb would be my second choice….

You can safely switch from one remedy to the other… (please DO NOT give both together)… and they are also compatible with the Silicea which you have already been giving….

In my view if the Silicea was the most similar it would have cleared the ear problems by now… instead it only seems to be palliating it….(ears fine as long as remedy is given)…

I expect the Calc carb to eliminate further ear treatments and reduce the lipomas…. In addition it should help with the bare patch on his tail.

I also noticed you are giving the dog the Glucosamine/Chondrotin…. Is this as a preventative or does he have hip problems…. Calc carb helps with the hips….

You had indicated he is an older dog and prefers the indoors…. I have seen many labs that prefer the warmth to the cold ….as they get older they typically gain a bit more weight…. If your guy has some extra weight…. The calc carb should help with that….

In addition to the Calc carb I would suggest leaving the ears alone…just check daily and give the outside a quick wipe…. Massaging the lipomas is not likely to do much good…instead make sure your boy gets out for walks and exercise to improve the lymphatic system and encourage drainage….

Please report any change in symptoms

I welcome your questions and appreciate the comments of other posters.

Wishing you and yours a wonderful day.
Monty1 last decade
Thank you Astra2012 and Monty1 for your info. That is a lot to process as I am not that knowledgeable. I do not understand exactly what the grades/occurance mean. As I said the discharge has been greatly reduced. In the beginning there were huge chunks being thrown from his ears daily. The lipoma diagnosis was strickly my own. How can I tell if it is lipoma or cysts. I thought cysts would be open or draining. The largest cyst is on his front left shoulder.
I started giving chondroitin/glucosamine when he arrived on our door step at about the age of 2yrs. The local AKC said he was a high quality dog that must have gotten away from his owner. He had a slight limp at that time so I immediately started the c/g and he has not gotten much worse. In the beginning it completely eliminated his limp so I believe that it did ward off a great problem in his old age.
fredkiwi last decade

The information was more for the benefit of the other posters... unfortunately it did not show the grades for each remedy but for those who are interested it can be looked up....

Cysts do not have to be open and draining.... they can just be a lump that is felt..

I am sure you are right about giving the c/g and preventing further problems....however the limp is still a deviation from a totally healthy dog and needs to be taken into consideration when prescribing a remedy... especially when there might be several remedies to consider and you want to rule some out to find the ONE that is the most similar....

SO.... please tell me about his limp... where is it... what makes it better or worse... also any other health issues he has had ....past and present...

Could you also confirm if he is somewhat overweight.

The more information offered...the clearer the picture to prescribe the most appropriate remedy....

Looking forward to your reply.
Monty1 last decade
The limp is in his right rear leg. It is not very pronounced for a dog of 11 years old. He probably weighs about 125 lbs but as a young skinny pup at 1 1/2 lbs he came to us at over 90 lbs. He is one of the large labs. I presume you know that large breed dogs have a tendency to hip dysplasia. I have often wondered if the fact that he always lays on his left side, the side with the bumps, could be causing pores to clog.
Thank you
fredkiwi last decade

Guess I should proofread.
That should be a skinny pup of 1 1/2 YEARS old.

fredkiwi last decade

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