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You mean the active ingridient then? Its molecular struucture is broken by trit. and succusion?
Why wouldn't that question be serious? It's a new concept!
Well, do you really mean that though?
Why wouldn't that question be serious? It's a new concept!
Well, do you really mean that though?
Astra2012 last decade
Organon talks about trituriation, how it is done.
Where does it say that you potentize via trituriation and you can trit. above 24x?
I can't find it. Maybe you know the # of paragraph?
Where does it say that you potentize via trituriation and you can trit. above 24x?
I can't find it. Maybe you know the # of paragraph?
Astra2012 last decade
Of course, what else would there be to break down? and yes.
It's almost 200 years old, and for that very reason.
It's almost 200 years old, and for that very reason.
Dr Organon last decade
It doesn't, as it has never been necessary, or waranted to use trituration up to this level. I merely used my example of the fact you could triturate indefinately with similar results, to illustrate further the similarity between the two methods of dynamization.
It's just basic logic if one understands how the process of dynamization actually works, whether by sucussion OR trituration.
It's just basic logic if one understands how the process of dynamization actually works, whether by sucussion OR trituration.
Dr Organon last decade
are you saying now that about 200 years ago it was said that trit. breaks the molecular structure?
I'll quote you not to change your words :
'Of course, what else would there be to break down? '
(as I said water and lactose. Why woudln't their structure break too?) .
Anyway I don't think this makes sense as instead of having different understanding of cell salts I keep it the same as I see your ideas growing more and more bizarre. Maybe you are right and I'm wrong (although I do not think so)
but I still am conviced that cell saalts act only on material plane and trituriation does not dynamize them.
I'll quote you not to change your words :
'Of course, what else would there be to break down? '
(as I said water and lactose. Why woudln't their structure break too?) .
Anyway I don't think this makes sense as instead of having different understanding of cell salts I keep it the same as I see your ideas growing more and more bizarre. Maybe you are right and I'm wrong (although I do not think so)
but I still am conviced that cell saalts act only on material plane and trituriation does not dynamize them.
Astra2012 last decade
Um, have you even read this section of the Organon?
Again, are you serious? Water and alcohol are medicinally inert, this is why they were chosen as dilutants to begin with.
Your perception of this is your deal, really, but I have to laugh at 'I see your ideas growing more and more bizarre', because they are not actually my ideas, they are Hahnemanns.
Again, this is your deal, but I really don't think there is any point in our discussing this further, as I have given it my best shot, and there is obviously nothing I could possibly say which is going to help you understand how this process works, or it's purpose, and I would suggest therefore you study the aphorisms concerned with remedy preparation in the Organon 6, which may or not help you to do this.
The best of luck.
Again, are you serious? Water and alcohol are medicinally inert, this is why they were chosen as dilutants to begin with.
Your perception of this is your deal, really, but I have to laugh at 'I see your ideas growing more and more bizarre', because they are not actually my ideas, they are Hahnemanns.
Again, this is your deal, but I really don't think there is any point in our discussing this further, as I have given it my best shot, and there is obviously nothing I could possibly say which is going to help you understand how this process works, or it's purpose, and I would suggest therefore you study the aphorisms concerned with remedy preparation in the Organon 6, which may or not help you to do this.
The best of luck.
Dr Organon last decade
It's definitely hopeless.
No wonder homeopathy is not taken seriously by science and medicine. By training I am biologist and I am horrified when I hear your ideas stated with such self-assurance.
Should I point the nonsense you are saying?
'Um, have you even read this section of the Organon? '
There is NO place in Organon where Hahnnemann says anything about potentizing via trituriation. (We are not discussing how to make minerals etc. water-soluble.)
'Again, are you serious? Water and alcohol are medicinally inert, this is why they were chosen as dilutants to begin with'
No. Alcohol is addded to keep bacteria from growing in liquid solutions.(why suddenly you talk about alcohol? It is NEVER used in cell salt preparation. Try to focus on the subject)
Lactose is used for trituriation because it is ok for that, that's all. It is not more 'medicinally inert' (as you put it but I have no idea what exactly what you mean) as, say, silica from cell salts.
Anyway, let's agree to disagree.
No wonder homeopathy is not taken seriously by science and medicine. By training I am biologist and I am horrified when I hear your ideas stated with such self-assurance.
Should I point the nonsense you are saying?
'Um, have you even read this section of the Organon? '
There is NO place in Organon where Hahnnemann says anything about potentizing via trituriation. (We are not discussing how to make minerals etc. water-soluble.)
'Again, are you serious? Water and alcohol are medicinally inert, this is why they were chosen as dilutants to begin with'
No. Alcohol is addded to keep bacteria from growing in liquid solutions.(why suddenly you talk about alcohol? It is NEVER used in cell salt preparation. Try to focus on the subject)
Lactose is used for trituriation because it is ok for that, that's all. It is not more 'medicinally inert' (as you put it but I have no idea what exactly what you mean) as, say, silica from cell salts.
Anyway, let's agree to disagree.
Astra2012 last decade
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