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Hmm, this was something else I had anticipated. Lyssinum is a remedy closely related to both Hyoscyamus, and Stramonium, mentioned above, and another which should not be given without good indication. Hold off on the Platina, let's try to antidote this first and see if there is any improvement.

I will look up Lyssinum antidotes, and post the results later this evening.

Antidotes to Lyssinum

Belladonna atropa
Camphora officinalis
Nux vomica

However , when such a long period has after the administration of Lyssinum , according to me , the best anti-dote (in case this behaviour was caused by Lyss, which I find unlikely) would be the most similar remedy now. The simillimum according to the current symptoms is the best anti-dote.

'Since Lyss was given December '06 wouldn't it have worn off by now?'
Not necessarily, in fact I have had cases where just one dose of a remedy has been administered by another prescriber, and the patient has still been suffering a year later, which has been completely alleviated after antidoting the remedy in question. It all depends on the similarity of the incorrect remedy to that which was actually indicated, and how bad the reaction actually was.

The antidotes to this remedy, as listed by Allen's 'Materia Medica of the Nosodes', are: Cocculus, Agave, and Nux Vom, and I have found most of Allen's work in this area to be verified by my own experiences, so this is the list I would personally follow.

If I may also ask, what potency was this remedy given in, and for how long?

Sameer, if I may ask you, why do you find it unlikely that Lyssinum may be the cause of some of the patient's problems, especially in view of the fact ann has specifically expressed there was a very bad reaction to this remedy, and that a lot of this more severe behaviour began after it's administration?

Also, the best antidote to the EFFECTS of a bad remedy reaction is one which matches as closely as possible the symptoms of the totality of the current presentation, yes, but when the patient's problems are known to have either begun, or been greatly exacerbated by the administration of a particular drug, and the presentation is predominantly OF that drug, it is a pretty fair bet that it needs specific antidoting by applying remedies known to have this action, and this should always at least be tried first. Remedies will not antidote eachother if they are incapable of doing so, and may even be/prove inimical. This is a similar scenario to prescribing upon the current symptomology of a patient, but at the same time not taking into account the miasmatic presentation. The cause must always be born in mind, and it is not always as simple as mere similarity.

'I have one other question. When you mentioned her behavior was more likely a result of familial relationships could you please explain?'

I don't really want to probe into, or give my opinion on subjects which I would consider deeply personal here, but maybe we can discuss this a little more once we get things calmed down a with your daughter, which is the primary concern right now, it that is okay.

Dr. Organon,

Fair enough.

Let's try to antidote it through Nux Vom., then.

Sameer.

Okay, thank you, and you're most welcome.

I am actually torn between Nux and Agave right now, and am currently researching this latter remedy further to see if it matches the symptoms better than Nux, as it is not one I have had to use before, but yes, the basic principle is, the remedy prescribed will antidote, or at worst partially antidote the Lyssinum, if this is indeed still acting. We will then be able to tell from your daughters reaction to the remedy, if this is the case.

Give me a few hours and I will tell you which remedy would be my first choice, the potency and dosage.

It is then of course your choice as to whether you follow my suggestion or Sameer's, should they disagree.

My prescription would be

Dissolve 2 pellets of Nux Vomica 200C in a 250 ml spring water bottle.

Give her 1/2 teaspoon from there in the evening after sunset.

Then no more dosing.

Just observe and report status after 4 days.

Let's go ahead with Nux as this does match a lot of the symptoms, and is the one remedy on both lists.

My prescription then would be:
Nux Vomica 6x, 1 dose, by olfaction (sniffing) if possible, post after 24 hours.

Yes, just one very short sharp sniff directly from the bottle. It is the very smallest dose of a remedy which can be given. You will need to obtain the remedy in liquid form to do this though (which usually come as 25-30%) alcohol.

No, Nux does not antidote Lycopodium, but we will possibly look into this after. It is not always the case that because a remedy has made a patient worse it needs to be antidoted. Sometimes when a wrong prescription is given, it will simply aggravate the underlying presentation, and your Daughter certainly doesn't sound like she is proving Lyc to me.

Where are you located?

If you are in the US, you will have to order the liquid dilution from the internet and this will take some time.

Alternatively, you can take the dose I suggested but use 2 pellets of 30C instead. I know it is tough to procure potencies other than 6C and 30C from normal health food stores in the US.

Sameer.

Good luck !

Put 2 pellets in the 250 ml water bottle, and 1/2 teaspoon from there is the dose. No repetition.

Fair enough, then we will see what happens, but for the record, a 30c was not my recommendation.

Do the 30C. Better to be conservative.

30C is lower potency.