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Do the 30C. Better to be conservative.

30C is lower potency.

Anything to report on your daughter's case ann?

Bump.

I have just read the post from Dr.Beek '8 year old behavior' is this not a wonderul insight. I really have recognised myself. I wish my mother was still around. I hope you will read it too. I as a kid did not feel anything for my family, i felt like an outsider because I as well had an older stepsister, who some how seemed to have everything and i more orless had nothing. i wonder how i survived all those years, i felt alone, nothing i did was good enough. after reading dr beek his explanation i will not make the same mistake, i still have time and next sunday i will visit my kids and ask for forgiveness, because i know now that a lot of things i have done wrong, at least it gives hope for our children, it is time to give them a good example. i love my kids i only did not express it - crying.
i wish you all the best anlivi200 i hope you can resolve the problems with your daughter she is still so young.

love m

There you go, she was obviously proving Lyssinum.

I hope this case serves to show those who still believe Homoeopathy is some universally safe system which can be played around with after reading a few books on the subject, the very real risks which exist from wrongful prescriptions.

If there is a bad and disimilar reaction to a remedy, IT NEEDS TO BE ANTIDOTED. No other precription will rectify the problem, and anyone who does not have the knowledge or ability to rectify their mistakes should be prescribing Homoeopathic remedies.

'Dr' O.

Ann if you have any further problems, please do not hestitate to bring these to our attention, and I'm glad your daughter is feeling better.

...which was achieved without having to probe into or question the parents relationship with the child, or follow any so-called 'spiritual' maxims I might add.

'anyone who does not have the knowledge or ability to rectify their mistakes should be prescribing Homoeopathic remedies.'

Should read: 'anyone who does not have the knowledge or ability to rectify their mistakes, should also not be prescribing Homoeopathic remedies.'

Apologies, apparently my computer does not like this forum...

Glad to know Annlivi. So the '30C' did work ! I am happy for you.

Sameer.

Fortunately, in THIS case, yes. A '30c' though of a remedy prescribed on MY evaluation of the case, let's not forget that 'Sameer'.

Dear Mr. Organon, I respect and honor your efforts that you put towards your patients and this forum, I believe we both have a similar goal, and that is, the health of a human being.
In your field, you use your knowledge and wisdom to find a remedy for a result, which is the effect of a sickness. I do not treat the result; I am trying to locate the cause that is responsible for a certain condition. And either one of us can bring a solution, if so, then this is something to cheer about, nevertheless the comfort your curiousity, Im turning 50 soon, I'm in good health and spirit, I drink, and smoke occasionally, like playing golf with my and to play football with my kids, and if the weather turn good, we all go sailing together. I graduated from Medical College in 1983. I began studying alternative therapies, searching for ways to help my patients get healthier and lead more satisfying lives, since it came to me that I was treating the result of a sickness and not the cause.
I had heard of man named Sharrif living a nomadic life in Indonesia a free spirit who possessed the knowledge of ancient ayurveda wisdom a true master of natural healing, I spent 4 years studying and following him on all his visits, strangely enough I came in contact with Luule a similar guru who did exactly the same thing. By talking and listening to the patients and retelling their story in simple words, curing was done by the patients themselves.
I believe in the power of thought, like you believe in the properties of homeopathy, however, I teach people how to use the properties that are lying dormant in their brain.
So how, I feel tension some tension coming from your reply, although I see know reason why we cannot coexist.
I do not comment your treatment and the way of diagnosing on which you base your prescription, this is something that a healthy thinking patients should do - before swallowing – all the time.
We all think we know (including myself) but it is only the patient who is able to look inside his heart.
People today don’t listen to their body, nor do they talk with their spouse, and kids they don’t seem to understand anyway, life is a race for most, TV, Radio, Mobile phones, Internet and lots more, robs them of quality time.
Only when a terminal ill patient has dragged himself from far and away to my doorstep they are ready to listen and to let it go – often, unfortunately it comes to late – but at least they die with a peaceful mind.
These forums are no battle field to decide the rights and wrongs of those who participate, but they are meadows were we can share our wisdom of life, that includes natures gift, that we use to find cures and solutions when the other gift of nature (our brain) has failed to protect our body.
I really hope and wish that you have found a lasting remedy for the 8 year old, it makes me happy, and I hope that the mother is happy too.

Best regards
Dr.Beek

'MY EVALUATION' , what an ego ! , a balloon is gonna burst some day , haha, even in a cure, you are trying to boost your ego. Let's be happy , she got cured and yes, YOUR evaluation was correct FORTUNATELY in THIS case.

And it was achieved without 'sniffing', without undue complications for the patient ,'Organon' :) .

Hmm, more outbursts I see...interesting.

I am sorry, but I am not going to participate in the drama you started elsewhere, here Mr Vermani, as I think this is unfair to both the members, and Mr Broadley (Moderator), who should not be dragged into such things.

I will say though, there was no 'ego' involved in my comment, which was posted purely to remind you, as you basked in your apparent 'victory' of potency choice (which was obviously one of your reasons
for posting, as verified by your second post above) the reason behind the prescription in the first place. It was therefore nothing more than a reiteration of the facts, and there were no personal comments made, on my part at least.

Also of course, I make such evaluations everyday, and have been doing so for almost 20 years, so your use of 'caps' or wording, is not really applicable.

I wish you well in your future endeavours, whatever field they may be in.

'Fortunately, in THIS case, yes. A '30c' though of a remedy prescribed on MY evaluation of the case, let's not forget that 'Sameer''

'anyone who does not have the knowledge or ability to rectify their mistakes should be prescribing Homoeopathic remedies.'


Organon, I was only responding to these 2 things which you stated. Nothing else.

When did I bask in the 'victory' ? I just said the 30C did work. It was you who basked and said 'MY EVALUATION'

20 years , 10000 evaluations, anyone can claim anything here. We dont believe anything here till proved. Thank you for your wishes.

Good bye.

Sameer.

Sameer, Mr Organon, please give each other the benefit of the doubt. From my reading of this thread, you have misunderstood one another.

Sameer is simply saying that, there having been doubt whether to go for 30C or 200C, the 30C worked well, and he is happy. Mr Organon misinterpreted this as gloating which riled him, and so he responded in kind.

However, rewinding, you are both happy for the patient, nobody is claiming any inappropriate glory and we can all be friends.

Simon

Alex,

Once again, I enjoyed reading your contribution to this thread.

The mental roots of illness are close to the heart of homeopathy - looking at different remedies, certain mental characteristics go with certain physical symptoms.

Best Wishes,
Simon

Simon,

Fair enough. However, I only respond once incited. Note that I did not claim to have 'evaluated' the case at anytime. I was talking to the patient when I said 'Glad to know Annlivi. So the 30C did work ! I am happy for you.
'. There was no need for anyone to get riled with that.

Lets move on though.

Sameer.

Dear Dr Beek.

No, in this you are mistaken. I do not treat the effect, or result of sickness, I treat the cause, miasmatic predisposition, which governs the mentality and behaviour of most individuals as much as it governs their physical ailments. What you are doing is mistakenly interpreting the results of these miasmatic predispositions, the mentality etc, as the cause, and this is perhaps the reason for any 'tension'.
This is of course up to you, and you are always free to do so, as is anyone here, but I am afraid I have always had an overiding need to challenge ideas which I do not 'perceive' to be true, and will continue to do so until the day I die, and probably beyond.
There is of course a difference between thinking we know though, and actually being quite certain we know.

My point to these posts is merely this: this 'looking into the heart', or into the problems which may exist in individual relationships, or exerting mental discipline against our true nature, or any of the other methods you are proposing as treatment for disease, are completely unecessary, and can be very painful to the patient to have to go through. Take the case above as an example, your suggestion was that annlivi should sit down and analyse the reasons behind her daughters behaviour, question her own, and her motives and feelings etc etc, which would probably have been very painful to both parties, where all it took was the removal of the actual cause of the problem, in this case, a wrongful prescription, and the former relationship has been completely restored. Let me give you another example. I quite recently had a case of a late teenager, who had been sexually abused by her mother's boyfriend for a number of years, and who had been suffering ever since. She suffered the most horrific nightmares every night, and would not be left alone in the house under any circumstances, she was also having, quite understandably, 'intimacy problems' in her current relationship. Most importantly though, she absolutely HATED her mother, as she blamed her for what had happened, and would bring the situation up every single day. Your advice would be for both parties to sit down and 'work through' this, poke around into the relationship they may have had before the abuse started, and dredge up all manner of painful emotions, which I am quite sure would not have made much difference to the situation.
My approach was the same as in other cases of such problems, to go directly to the cause of this young ladies behaviour, and treat this, medicinally. Within three weeks of taking the prescribed remedies, she was, in her mothers own words 'a completely different person'. She was sleeping normally, was fine when left alone, no longer had any problems in her rlationship, but more importantly for the purposes of thsi example, never challenged her mother again, with whom she now has a normal mother/daughter relationship. She has also never since mentioned her abuse, almost as if it never even happened.

I have seen many cases like this, and in every one of them it has been completely unecessary to poke around into personal relationships, mental processes etc etc, when it comes to the teatment of the disease. such practices will only cause unecessary pain to all parties concerned.

Do you have many terminally ill people dragging themselves from 'far and away' to your door to listen to you speak Dr Beek?

This is your interpretation of what these forums are for. I am here to treat disease, and alleviate suffering, in a tried and tested scientific manner, not to promote my own idealistic spiritual concepts. I will also though, as stated, challenge anything which is being promoted as truth, where my own experience has lead me to believe this is not the case.
The brain is of ocurse part of the body, as much as the mind is part of the entire being, and Homoeopathy treats all these things. It is not the improper functioning of the brain which is the cause of disease, this is merely a symptom of the true cause, miasmatic disease.

Thank you for answering my question re: your doctorate, which I will of course accept, as only a fool with little or no morality and ethics would lie to himself, by exagerating his achievments.

I did though remember who the gentleman I mentioned in an earlier post was, with whom you seem to share many personality traits, as well as writing style, it was none other than Mr Joe De Levira himself.


Regards, 'Dr' O.

' 'Fortunately, in THIS case, yes. A '30c' though of a remedy prescribed on MY evaluation of the case, let's not forget that 'Sameer''

'anyone who does not have the knowledge or ability to rectify their mistakes should be prescribing Homoeopathic remedies.'


Organon, I was only responding to these 2 things which you stated. Nothing else.

When did I bask in the 'victory' ? I just said the 30C did work. It was you who basked and said 'MY EVALUATION'

20 years , 10000 evaluations, anyone can claim anything here. We dont believe anything here till proved. Thank you for your wishes.

Good bye.

Sameer.'


That would be either 'Mr' or 'Dr' Organon to you, I don't mind which.

Interesting, as the second comment was of course in a completely different post, making a completely different point, and not even directed at you, so it would seem you had already (once again) jumped to a defensive wrong conclusion before posting.

Oh come now 'Sameer', let's not pretend this wasn't part of your motivation, I know you to well now, please don't feign naivety. No basking on my part, just an assertion of the facts.

Again, it really makes no difference to me what you 'believe', fact is simply fact, and this doesn't change because of your 'beliefs', one way or the other.

Cheerio ;)

Mr Moderator:

I am afraid there was no misunderstanding or misinterpretation on my part, after having had a recent taste of Mr Vermani's behaviour elsewhere, but of course this is not for here. He therefore was not simply saying that which you state, but I can understand how you may think this.

Indeed, the patient is always my primary concern, and I am of course happy all is well. I'm not sure about us ALL being friends though, as I am very choosey when it comes to this, and certainly do not place such a title on those who savagely bite at the hand which tries to feed them.

Regards, 'Dr' O.

'Oh come now 'Sameer', let's not pretend this wasn't part of your motivation, I know you to well now, please don't feign naivety. No basking on my part, just an assertion of the facts.
'

I also know you and your big ego too well from elsewhere. Infact, I am no exception, you have had pointless arguments with every person on this forum.
Don't feign being a gentleman now. Yeah sure, when someone else says something, it's basking, when you say something , it's a fact. wow , too much !
Whatever Organon says is written in stone , clap clap , everyone !! Only Organon says the facts , rest all are fools, thats your strut.

There is no place on a forum like this for egos. This forum thrives on co-existing. I said 'Lets move on now' and you are still carrying this on further , so it is you who started this 'drama' and is carrying it on.

'Indeed, the patient is always my primary concern, and I am of course happy all is well. I'm not sure about us ALL being friends though, as I am very choosey when it comes to this, and certainly do not place such a title on those who savagely bite at the hand which tries to feed them.'

You feeding me , hah,.. thats the point , you always feel you are the 'all knowing' boss and you can keep feeding people with the fountain of knowledge , but kindly do it in a less condescending way if possible, if you can ?

I will not be responding to you any more, as I do not deem it worth my time.

Good Bye
Sameer.

Your evaluations of my behaviour, motivations or 'strut' (whatever that may be), are of no interest to me Mr Vermani. If I ever do need the opinions of another on these though, I will seek the help of a qualified Homoeopathic physician.

Also, what is pointless to you, may be important to another...I guess it depends on how seriously we take what we do, and our lives.

You had your say to posts made, I had my say to posts made. It is only you who is carrying this on with yet more uncontrolled outbursts of a personal nature. As for you saying 'Let's move on now', was this the point I was supposed to just stop typing, because you said so? ...I think not.

And I do not actually 'feel' anything in this respect, I also only 'condescend' to those who feel the need to continually resort to personal diatribe, such as yourself.

Excellent, then we can now truly 'move on' ;)

Sameer, Mr Organon,

Not that you have both declared that you are going to put this behind you, I expect you to do so without muttering another word. Should either of you have a cross word to say about each other you will be suspended.

Mr Organon,

An observation, if I may:

In the short time you have frequented these forums, I can't help but notice that you've had separate arguments with most of the regulars. It really does seem that where there are arguments, you are involved. Please try to coexist with people of different opinions to yourself.

For the record, I'm pretty certain that AlexThink is not Joe DeLivera.

Best Wishes,
Simon

Okie Dokie Simon. I will be careful. As you might be knowing, I have always existed peacefully on this forum untill this thread, and can do so now too.

Thanks,
Sameer.

Hmm...maybe that is because I do not simply 'follow the heard' Mr Moderator, nor will I ever, and as stated, wherever I see something presented as truth, when I know this is not the case, I will challenge this. People then become irate and adopt a defensive stance & personal tone, because they cannot defend their standpoint, which is in turn because such standpoints have no foundation, or basis in fact, and this is not my problem.

As for my having had arguments with most of the regulars here, I would remind you that most of these 'regulars' took it upon themselves to verbally attack me without any provocation, from the moment I arrived here, so using this to support the above assertion that 'wherever there is an argument, I am involved', is not really applicable.

I will debate civily with anyone, who has a logical basis for their argument, but when this becomes of a purely personal nature, I will respond accordingly.

I also do not deal in opinion, only fact.

As for Dr Beeks identity, up until now, I have only pointed out the obvious similarities in his writing style and post content, with that of Mr De Levira. I have not stated they are the same person, nor have I suggested this, I do however, since this has been brought up, think they almost certainly are, and my only problem with this, if this IS indeed the case, is that it would mean the person in question is wrongly presenting themself as a qualified allopathic Doctor, but this would be a matter for their own conscience.

Regards, 'Dr' O.