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'If the symptoms return unchanged with 200C dose of a remedy even after a month , it was probably not the correct choice to begin with.'

Indeed, or just as commonly, as stated above, there exists a reason for their return, which should be sought out, and remedied.

This is the only way cure comes.
 
Mr Organon last decade
Franki, please follow the directions above, although personally I would only use one pill/pellet, as stated previously, as this will achieve the gentlest action.

Either will be effective though.
 
Mr Organon last decade
Dear Dr. O

I also prefer 1 pellet but , I just want to avoid the event where that one pellet was not sprayed with the medicine liquid. :)

Anyways , as you said both should work and I agree 1 pellet is gentlest and the most Hahnemannian way.


Sameer.
 
sameervermani last decade
I realise this, and this is why most people apply two, but if the remedy comes from a reliable source, and is therefore medicated correctly, this is not necessary, as the lactose is always impregnated by the evaporation of the remedy within the vial. Simple physics.

Maybe though I am just spoiled by only using trusted pharmacies where I have personally overseen the process of medicating being performed.
 
Mr Organon last decade
Hello Doctors,
I have placed two pellets in 500 mL of water. I was going to start in the morning. However, should i dump that and only use one pellet? The vial i bought is by BOIRON.
 
franki last decade
2 is fine. Go ahead. No need too dump it. The dose is pretty mild even with 2.
 
sameervermani last decade
if you're still there, Sameer, could you tell me, might this bother his stomach, or make him nauseous? How long before I see any change in his growth pattern?
 
franki last decade
also, should it be given on an empty stomach? how many hours in between doses?
 
franki last decade
Space the doses evenly on a day.

No eating or brushing of teeth one hour before and one hour after each dose.

How long you need to wait..hmm.. that is difficult to predict.. each body has its own sensitivity level. You can observe him for 3-4 days for changes, and then report back here.

Don't worry , it will help him. Give him the doses.
 
sameervermani last decade
i will start in the morning....talk to u in a few days....thanks!!
 
franki last decade
let the patient come back with the improvements after 2 weeks.

we will see what to do next.
 
rishimba last decade
oragnon, dont get confused between chronic and acute prescribing.

nose bleed comes under acute prescribing and thus the remedy has to be administered in quick intervals till the symptoms remain.

a high potency dose given at long intervals will ensure that the problem doesnt recurr. this is proven by many and is not specifically a hahnemannian way to prescribe.

but it works..

most of the 'so called' hahnemannian prescribers here try to take the classical approach even for acute problems.

a lot more information about the mentals and personality types, family history is required for prescribing a constitutional dose.

this cannot be done across the net in a forum.
 
rishimba last decade
Oh I am most definitely not the one who is confusing the two Mr Rishimba, I am prescribing for the patient's constitution, which is obviously somewhat mildly disturbed.

Again, as stated above, a nose bleed is only 'acute' during the actual attack, but there has to be a CAUSE involved, these do not just simply occur without one. So no, this is most definitely not a purely acute case. You are also of course only focussing on one symptom of the overall presentation, which is common amongst 'non-hahnemannian' prescribers.

Also again, One NEVER prescribes the same remedy in a lower potency for an acute exacerbation of a chronic problem, when the remedy in question is already being applied for the underlying constitutional state, as you suggested above.

I am very much aware this superficial process 'works', but this is not cure. As stated, if the symptoms of one particular remedy have a tendency to reccur, and the remedy has to be continually applied, even at long intervals, then the actual CAUSE of these symptoms remains undiscovered, and must be looked into, otherwise we are simply applying palliation. Basic prescribing really.

This has not been my experience, as most of us who have been properley trained, and had much experience, understand the subtle difference between the two. There is also only one 'approach', and you are confusing the 'Hahnemannian way' (which is not 'so called', it simply 'is'), with mere 'constitutional prescribing', to which it is not limited. Hahnemann had as much to say about acute prescribing as he did about chronic, and this should not involve simply abandoning our fundamental rules and prescribing remedies on one or two symptoms alone. Totality is as much necessary in acute prescribing as it is in chronic, and to those who do not follow the true way, this can appear as if we are attempting to treat the scute case in a 'chronic' manner. Either way though, and as stated, this is clearly not a purely acute case, as again there must be some cause involved in this child's presentation.

In the majority of cases, yes, but not always. There are some situations where this is unecessary, as the remedy in question is so clearly indicated, we simply apply it, and go from there. I guess though this is a question of experience with materia medica.

I agree it is much much harder, but it can be done, as I have been doing just this since I arrived here (as do many others), and also on my own forum. Again, it is simply a question of the level of experience, and analytical skills of the individual prescriber.

A good Homoeopath Mr Rishimba, will find ways to discover the similium even if he is blindfolded and has his hands tied behind his back.

Regards,

'Dr' O.
 
Mr Organon last decade
Hello Again,
I did give my son the doses on Sunday. During the afternoon dose, he forgot and drank a little water.... I hope this will not affect anything too much. I know it's only been a few days and I am anxious to see if this will help him. Just wanted to keep you posted.
Franki
 
franki last decade
Okay Franki.

The water will not interfere. Observe changes carefully for the next few days.

Good luck.
Sameer.
 
sameervermani last decade
organon.. is this the way you entice the patients to your private practice?

quite a run of the mill tactic .. i must say.
 
rishimba last decade
thank you Sameer,

What kind of changes should i be looking for besides growing (which is what i've looked for everyday for the last 3 years)?
 
franki last decade
Mr Rishimba, the only private practice I have is in real life, so it would be pretty hard for me to 'entice' anyone to this unless they were in the same country. I also have never felt the need for such 'enticement' anyway, word simply gets around when one is a competent prescriber. It is interesting though you too have resorted to making personal remarks because your argument regarding the practice of Homoeopathy has fallen apart, which says a lot more about you, and your understanding of the subject than me/mine, as there have been no personal remarks made from my end...
 
Mr Organon last decade
Franki, what you should notice, is an overall general improvement in your sons energy levels, and sense of well being with a cessation of nosebleeds, and the other problems he occasionally suffers from. It will take a long time though for his height to increase, as this will occur as he matures, rather than overnight, If Phosphorus is indeed the only remedy which is indicated in this.
 
Mr Organon last decade
Rishimba, that's unnecessary.

I don't see how Mr Organon's comments are intended to entice anyone to his private pracice. He has not asked for anyone to contact him, and nothing is implying that. In fact your own comment comes closer 'this can not be done across the net in a forum.'

Kindly do not engage with those you are unable to agree to disagree with.

Simon
 
moderator last decade
well..lets agree to disagree.
 
rishimba last decade
dear simon,

i agree and i stand by that statement. one cannot find the constitution just based on the posts.

i formulated a case taking sheet for this reason to provide the true disease picture of the patients to the physicans. this questionnaire is being followed by most of the physicians now.

let me tell you, social service is just my passion and my friends know me as an oil and gas professional.

the question of leading people to my pivate practice doesnt arise.
 
rishimba last decade
its strange why a 'successful or a better homeopath' would give much of his precious time and energy putting long posts in explaining his case and bringing in reference from classical / hanehmennian aproach repetedly.

i have been visiting this forum for some constructive entertainment and have never tried to impress upon others my superiority over others and repetedly giving references from the organon.

the patients decide who is an effective homeopath... not the user name or long hahnemannian lectures.

organon, can you please explain the theory behind 'palliation'.
 
rishimba last decade
Gentlemen,
Twice this week my son 'almost' had a nosebleed but it didn't gush like it usually does. It kind of stayed in the nostril until I cleaned it for him.
He came home from school today very pale and said he couldn't quite express how he was feeling. He did say that he felt dizzy and his eyelids were red and puffy.
Should I be concerned about this?
 
franki last decade
It's clear that the reaction has started. The nose bleed might just be a return of an old symptom which is considered good sign for homeopathic medicines. The medicines bring the complaints to the surface and any kind of puffyness on skin (eye lids in this case) is also a good sign.

Wait for 1 week, and these issues will resolve, and he should feel better.

Sameer.
 
sameervermani last decade
These are only your words Mr Rishimba, not mine. Sucess though, btw, is not my motivation, it is mereley an added bonus.

I am not 'explaining my case', I am explaining the reasons why certain practices are wrong, and promoting the correct way, which is one of the reasons I am here. The reason for the 'Hahnemannian (and Kentian btw) references', I thought would have been obvious, or have you forgotten how this noble science you are using began?

Good that makes two of us then, although I am not here simply for 'entertainment', I am here to help others, and educate those who have become somewhat 'wayward' in their prescribing methods. How this is perceived by those who may feel threatened by this, is of no concern to me, my only interest is in the promotion of the truth. Homoeopathy to me though, is not simply a source of entertainment, and never will be.

Indeed, but I am not here for personal empowerment, just to educate those who follow incorrect prescribing methods, and to use the correct methods to cure (rather than palliate) patients.

This is not a 'theory' Mr Rishimba, it is something which can be freely observed over and over in a clinical setting, and has been for almost 200 years. It is a naturally (or rather unaturally) existing phenomenon, produced by the application of palliative remedies. Why would you ask this though, this is part of basic training, were you not taught this at college?
 
Mr Organon last decade

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