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I had taken four doses of Kali Phos 200c for two days just like I would take 6x potency(which had helped me )After the third dose onwards, all my symptoms became worse. Actually feel terrible. Is there an antidote I could take to nullify this?
Thank you very much,
Gnan.
 
  a_gnan on 2004-12-02
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
What for you took Kali Phos??

Immediate aggravation is a very good sign.Bear with it.You will be better in a few days.

If not,come back with all the symptoms.

Murthy
 
bandarbabu2000 last decade
So, there is no harm since I have taken too many doses so close to each other. I was very worried! I do feel very good once in a while. But feel terrible at times.

thanks very much for your reply.
Gnan.
 
a_gnan last decade
I am sorry I forgot to answer the first question, why I am taking Kali Phos. I have four main problems:
1) I can't sleep well enough. I find it very difficult to sleep during the day. I will only be semi-conscious while sleeping during the day. Also, I get severe spasms in sleep(or while relaxing lying down on my bed) more often during the day. Feel some heat somewhere and feel very unpleasant while trying to sleep during the day.
2) I find it too much to work.I have a bachelor's and a master's degree in Aerospace Engg. Managed to get a good job. It has become so worse that I have begun avoiding doing virtually anything. Feel like lying down on my bed just after reading a little bit. I feel terribly bored at times only because I dont feel like doing anything at all. I don't feel like working at all. I find it very difficult to pass time. I don't feel like watching TV also. Like to work only when I feel like it.
3) I take atleast half an hour to finish my bath. Have to rub too much with water to rinse off the soap from my skin. I also have a lot of dandruff.
4) I have severe back pain. It hurts a lot in shins especially from evening onwards. I do feel like crying at times.
A doctor I had seen four years back had prescribed Kali Phos 6x which improved things a lot. But I stopped edication by myself. Now things are even worse.

Gnan.
 
a_gnan last decade
Ok.

Wait for a week and come back if there is no change in your symptoms.

Murthy
 
bandarbabu2000 last decade
Does one need to avoid raw garlic/onions totally while on homeopathic treatment?

thanks,
Gnan.
 
a_gnan last decade
Yes avoid - garlic , eucalyptus. menthol , camphor etc.
Personally I always avoid the 200 potency . In my early days of study - a good authority , whose name I've forgotten - said dont use the 200 it often causes aggravation.
Since then I either go from 30c to 1m or interpose 150c.
Try Mangan 30, or 1m. It may help.
 
passkey last decade
I have just read in a lot of websites that Nux Vom( 200c) is used to antidote any homeopathic remedy. Is this correct? Also, I found from the materia medica, that Nux Vom also matches closely with Kali Phos. Any comments?
thanks,
Gnan.
 
a_gnan last decade
I have now shifted to 1M potency of kali phos. I took one dose of it two days back. Could you tell me how long do I have to wait, typically, before I can take another dose? Is one week appropriate enough?
 
a_gnan last decade
Sorry if I am being too demanding, could someone answer my previous question about how frequently is a 1M dose typically taken? Does it also depend on the particular remedy you are on? I did come across some cases where a 1M potency is given once two months. Also, I have another question. When it's time to take the next dose, is it OK to shift to 30X or 30c which can be taken daily as I worry a bit about antidoting the high potency dose I have taken already. Recently I happened to have a raw onion forgetting that it might antidote the remedy I am on. I am not sure if it caused any lapse in improvement.

thanks very much.
 
a_gnan last decade
Hello,
I am now taking treatment from a professional homeopath for my above problems and feeling better each day. I am posting this out of curiosity. Could anyone tell me what is the antidote for kali phos?
 
a_gnan last decade
Hi,
Also, I have another question. Why are the potencies with numbers like 6x,6c,12x,12c and so on? One would expect potencies of the form 5x,5c,10x,10c,...

thanks,
Gnan.
 
a_gnan last decade
listed antidotes for kali phos are: am.m, ars., chin.,Rhus.t., Sulph.
The potencies go up by 1 number at a time - you can get 5, 6, 7, 8 and so on in c and x. It is quite individual which number is chosen, not a mathematical calculation!!!:)
 
erika last decade
Hi,
thanks very much for the reply. I have a few more questions which you would be kind enough to answer
- I heard homoeo medicines do not cause side effects. Is this true if the remedy chosen is correct? Or the side effects will only be negligible?
- When I took 4 doses of kali phos 200c within a span of two days when I was on self-medication four months back, would I have antidoted it by taking just one dose of Rhus tox 200 or would I have needed to take 4 doses of Rhus tox also?

thanks very much,
Gnan.
 
a_gnan last decade
side effects are the name given to the effects KNOWN to happen if you take an allopathic medicine and are sensitive to the ingredients. Some of the ALLOPATHIC SIDE EFFECTS happen even if you are not sensitive.

HOMEOPATHIC medicines do not cause side effects.
When you take a homeopathic remedy the energy of the remedy resonates with your energy and sets off your body's own healing process. The effects of the healing process are what happens with homeopathy - as these are so individual it is impossible to 'predict' what these effects might be in each person. The remedy does not have to be totally 'correct' to help start this healing process.
This is energy medicine and is harder to explain than material side effects of allopathic medicine.
Enough to say that homeopathy helps the body/mind/soul to help itself - it works with your vital force. Allopathy usually tries to stop the body doing what it is trying to do!!!
What can also happen with homeopathy is that during healing the symptoms which come up sometimes need another remedy to treat them - -this again is not side effects but part of the healing process.
Of course it would take a whole book to explain all the rest of the effects of homeopathic remedies we learn over 4 years to begin with to qualify as homeopaths and then add to each day in practise - you can begin to read this in some of the teaching books and it may be clearer then.:)


If you felt you needed an antidote then 1 dose would be enough if it stopped the smptoms you were suffering from - you would only need more doses if these symptoms were still there.
Were these symptoms ones that needed an antidote or had you experienced them before In your life? If you had experienced them before then they were part of the healing process and you may have needed another remedy/potency. If they were completely new symptoms for you then an antidote may have helped you.:)
 
erika last decade
Hi,
Thanks very much for the detailed explanation.
About the antidote, they were new symptoms which, I felt, were because of taking kali phos. (My homoeopath gave me an antidote). What I was curious about was, how to antidote it(in general any remedy).
I feel better now and my condition is improving. But I notice my urine is yellowish for the past several days. This is a new symptom. (I don't feel/see any difficulty because of this.)It was not yellowish before I started this treatment. I just concluded that this is probably a side -effect just like in allopathic medicines. Does this in any way conclusively tell the remedy is not correct?
Once again thanks very much for your explanation.

Gnan.
 
a_gnan last decade
No, this does not conclusively tell anything as it is a single symptom seen out of context.
Your homeopath would take this symptom, along with what else is happening now (mentally, emotionally and physically) and compare them to the symptoms (mental, emotional physical) you presented with at each previous consultation before considering what sort of an effect is going on re remedies etc....

With your urine it could also often be down to change of diet, vitamins. B vitamins for example make for very yellow urine.
 
erika last decade
out of interest what antidote did your homeopath give you??
 
erika last decade
Hi,
I am sorry I don't know. I didn't ask him. (He just gave me several packets, some numbered and pills.) I am actually able to work better and longer now and with some enthusiasm 3 months after I started seeing him.
I just want to get this clear: for ex. remedy A is taken in 30c potency, three doses on first day and not taken any more. After, let's say, 7 or 8 days if we need to antidote it(if it is not a correct remedy), it's antidote need to be given in 30c potency, three doses of it (before starting on another remedy). Is this right?

thank you very much,
Gnan.
 
a_gnan last decade
there is no formula for antidoting, every homeopath has a different method or similar. It is as individual as homeopathy and the patient of course!!
personally I usually don't 'antidote' but if I feel patient is 'aggravating' from the remedy I give the same remedy in a higher or lower potency for a dose or so before. If this didn't work I guess I may consider using an 'antidote' but up to now not needed.
 
erika last decade
ps ignore the word 'before' in above message, it crept in and shouldn't be there!!!
 
erika last decade
A patient has taken Selenium for sexual and uro-genital problems. But he face aggravation like prostate and abdomen pain; and also decline about erection. Now he only get slight erection in morning. Prostatic fluid secretion has either same or have increased.

In order to undo the aggravation of Selenium (Selenium-3x tablet few months ago; and now Selenium-6 three times per day for one month and Selenium-30 weekly dose for one month), I have suggested him Puls-30 weekly dose. Is it ok? I also suggested him to take Conium-200 one dose per 3 days. Is the conium can be taken along with puls?
 
sadeqahmed last decade

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