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Acid reflux

I have been diagnosed with GERD and been suffering from heartburn almost a year and a half. I was prescribed Protonix which gave me a lot of relief but after taking it for a year, the side effects have been awful. I stopped Protonix and I have been taking Nat Phos 6x two - three tablets three times daily after meals and Arnica 30c in wet dose twice a day. The Nat Phos helps a little but there is still quite a bit of heartburn even after taking this. My voice is affected due to this. Please help me, should I continue with the Nat Phos/ Arnica or stop it and take something else. I am 34 years old, female, non smoker, no alcohol, not overweight. Other than this issue, I suffer from allergies. Any guidance you can provide will be greatly appreciated as my doctor basically told me to deal with the side effects or I might end up with esaphogial cancer.

  argnit123 on 2009-12-19
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Nat Phos 6x and Arnica are remedies that I have promoted on this and other Homeopathic Forums for the treatment of GERD for the last 10 years or more. These remedies have helped many hundreds, perhaps thousands throughout the world to overcome their ailment.

You state:
'The Nat Phos helps a little but there is still quite a bit of heartburn even after taking this. My voice is affected due to this.'

It is possible that the reason why you have not responded as others have done to this therapy is because your case may be acute due to the chronic reflux of the gastric juices in your stomach up to your throat. I note that you have been using Protonix which is a Proton Pump Inhibitor (PPI) which has recently been found to be the cause of severe Psychiatric problems as it has been found to have irreversible side effects on the brain. What is more, it is also habit forming and many patients have been hooked to these many brands of PPI's which were introduced about 15 years ago and treated as the ultimate remedy for the treatment of GERD.

You can increase the number of tablets of NP that you take up to 6 which you can take immediately after a meal 3 times daily. Some patients have reported that this large dosage can cause a mild diarrhoea and if this occurs in your case, the dosage can be reduced.

You can also take Arnica 30c in the Wet dose 3 times daily. Please follow the instructions that I have given on making the Wet dose on:

Order the Liquid Arnica in Ethanol from the ABC store as it is possible that the reason why you have not responded may be because you are using the Dry Pelletsto make the Wet dose and these are not as effective.

Please report your response after you have used this therapy for 3 days.
Joe De Livera last decade
Mr Livera - I have taken the prescribed dosages of Nat Phos and Arnica for three days. I started with 6 pills of Nat Phos but I felt much better when I reduced it to 5 pills. It might be a coincidence, but when I was taking 6 pills, my heartburn was worse. Now, I am having intermittent times of having no heartburn at all, which was not the case before. One thing I noticed is that I have been retaining water, but it could be due to PMS (seems a little early though). Other than this, I have had no issues with taking this medicine. I have also noticed that my allergies are better without taking any allergy medicines. Should I continue to take the same dosage? Please advise. Thank you very much for all your help. I hope I can be heartburn free without having to take any allopathic medicines.
argnit123 last decade
I note that you have already obtained some relief within a week with Nat Phos which you have used to replace the Protonix which you have been taking for a whole year. You must understand that all the PPI's have been found to cause serious side effects especially on the brain and other organs. You can Google PPI to read the whole story.

I hope that you understand that you have addressed your ailment on this Forum in the nick of time as the fact that your voice was affected denotes that your Acid Reflux was at a serious level which would have eventually lead to Barrett's Esophagus which Medicine cannot cure other than by surgery but by that time it is usually too late and Cancer may have set in by that time.

It is now up to you to take the Nat Phos tablets according to need and you will be the best judge of the number of tablets that you must use to be comfortable after a meal. You may like to know that Nat Phos is perfectly safe to be used for long periods unlike the PPI Protonix you were using.
Do not eat large meals and restrict yourself to small meals which you can eat more often. Do not drink water with a meal as this promotes the reflux of gastric juice upwards. Do not go to bed at night immediately after dinner as this will also send the acid up to your throat. Avoid all fatty food and Alcohol which can also be considered as a poison in your case. No Chillie hot food and preserved meats like sausages, ham and bacon as they contain Saltpeter which will cause further damage.

Remember that the dual therapy Arnica 30 and Nat Phos 6x I have prescribed is essential for your future health. The Arnica will help to rebuild the inner tissue of the Esophagus which is not designed to cope with gastric juice which is highly corrosive as it is designed to digest food in the stomach and has already digested the inner lining tissue of your Esophagus which is now in a very delicate state today and will take time to heal.

You can add Ferr Phos 6x dose 2 tablets taken 3 times daily to accelerate the cure and help the Arnica to rebuild the tissue.

Report your response weekly on this Forum.
Joe De Livera last decade
I am continuing on Nat Phos 6x, Ferrem Phos 6x and Arnica 30c daily three times. I have reduced the Nat Phos to 2 pills and I am doing ok. I have occasional heartburn come up and chewing on a few almonds makes it go away. I do have throat pain which is worse on some days. I am glad to not have to take Protnix everyday. One thing I have noticed is that I have body pains sometimes and my lymph node near the neck hurts a little. I have lost a little weight too, which I am very happy about. Once again, thank you very much for your advice. If there is anything I should do differently, please advice.
argnit123 last decade
Nat Phos is doing all the good work here. Arnica 30c may be giving you body pains sometimes and you may see how it affects if you stop taking Arnica 30c. i am a fan of joeapathy and i am always a supporter of those who are working for simplifying homeopathy.
Best Wishes.
kadwa last decade
Your report of Almonds helping you to reinforce the effect of Nat Phos (NP) is interesting and I shall note it in my records.

I presume that you are not taking the Protonix which you have been using for some time and which eventually would have had some serious side effects. NP will not do any damage whatever and the weight loss that you have observed is one of the Plus points. Many have reported a weight loss of 1kg per week. Others have reported that NP causes loose motions and the answer is simple --reduce the dosage. The body pains you report have no connection with your present therapy.

You must continue to take the Arnica 30c in the Wet dose as prescribed as they both form an integral part of this Joepathy which has cured thousands of grateful patients as you can read from the many references to GERD on threads on this and the Homeopathy & More Forum. You reported some problem with your voice and this was due to the gastric juice refluxing up to your throat and you may have also noticed a burning sensation and also tasted it in your mouth when it was brought up with a burp. Arnica will slowly but surely rebuild the inner lining of your Esophagus and you will hopefully be cured in a few weeks.
Joe De Livera last decade
Mr. Joe
My heartburn has improved significantly now, but I am still having throat pain and also body pain. I have allergies which leads to post nasal drip and could be the cause of throat pain and this may also be the cause of my body pain. Is there anything I can take while on the Nat Phos to help with allergies? Please advice.

argnit123 last decade
I note that you have not confirmed that you are off the Protonix and other drugs you have been using for your GERD.

You stated: 'My heartburn has improved significantly now, but I am still having throat pain and also body pain.'

You will have to be precise about both your throat and body pains which I do not feel are due to your allergies.

I presume that you are not using your usual protocol of drugs and are only using my therapy. Please confirm as this is important for me to advice you on the next step.

Please complete the Questionnaire on:

Joe De Livera last decade
I haven't been taking Protonix or any other heartburn medicines a few weeks before I started on Nat Phos. I dont think I can ever go back to that medicine after all the side effects that I experienced. Please see below for the questionaire.

Full Name : Rita ( I will leave it as this)
Sex: Female
Age: 34 years
Weight: 130 pounds
Height : 5.3'
Blood Pressure:110/76
Color of Tongue: Pink
Occupation: Acctg Analyst
I live in Kansas, USA

Detail Patient History

Patient Description:
Before using Protonix, my only complaints were chest pain, occasional heartburn (please note that prior to protonix, my heartburn was very negligible)
sinus type headaches, face pains (CT scans taken and doctor said it looks fine and said I have TMJ, itcy eyes, sore throat,body pain and ear pain.
After taking protonix 40mg twice a day for 10 months,in addition to the above complaints, I had panic attacks at night, sudden weakness in body, vertigo, blocked ears, neck pain, numbness in head.

Cause of disease : Dont know

Period of Disease/Complaints:
August 2008

Results of Lab Tests:
Endoscopy done : Diagnosed with GERD, no ulcers in stomach.

Blood Test: Everything (cholestero, sugar, protein, calcium, blood count) is normal, low urea found, doctor said not a concern.

MRI of head: Normal
CT Scan of head : Normal
Hearing Test: Normal
Ear balance test : Found small problem with fluid in inner ear (although doctor doesnt think this is bad).

Comfortable Position : Lying on my stomach or on right side.
Worse state: Lying on left side or lifting heavy things.

Change of weather : No, I havent seen any difference.

Hot or Cold application : Hot feels better.

Good Time: forenoon and evening.
Worse Time: Mainly at night around bed time and not so bad but still noticeable in the morning when I get up.

Thirst: Not much, but drink enough water.

Appetite : Up and down, 14 days after Period, no appetite at all, 14 days before periods, too much appetite.

List of Medicines used :
Protonix, Midrin, Nasonex nasal spray, Astelin nasal spray, Cetirizine Hydrocloride, and most recently Penicillin injection. I also want to mention that I had TB in 2005 and was on a whole lot of antibiotics from which I got Yeast infections continously for 10 months that I was on the medication. It was after this that my health has been giving me trouble. Before that, other than allergies, I did not have any other issues. Homeopathic medicines taken so far : Nat Phos 6x, Arnica 30c, Mag Phos 6x, Gelsem Sempervirens -30c, Argentum Nitricum -30 c, Pulsatilla - 200c.

Habits: I used to drink wine 4 years back but not touched alcohol in the past 4 years.
No smoking ever
I drink one cup of tea in the morning. I like tea.
I love salty spicy items and not very fond of sweet stuff.
I am a carnivore,I eat fish, eggs and chicken.
Bowel movement is good - once or twice daily, more on the loose side.
I am not very slim nor obese. I crave fried spicy foods and coke.
I have one mole on my stomach which is red in color. I have had it for a long time.

major Past Illnesses : Mumps, Jaundice, Chicken pox, TB.

List of major closed family persons diseases :
Mother and brother have asthma. Father had stroke and died at age 58, was a heavy smoker.

Vaccinations : BCG, MMR, Tetanus, Flu.
I would also like to mention that I am a person who worries very easily, anxious around groups of people, short tempered and irritated very easily and this is more noticeable 14 days before my periods. I also have bloating and feeling of dread 2 weeks before my periods, I consider these two weeks as hell.

argnit123 last decade
Mr Joe - I have posted the questionaire per your previous post. Meanwhile I would like to add that I have been having chest pains and stomach pains also for the past two days. It is not very severe but it is there off and on. Also, I notice that when I drink lots of water, my heartburn gets worse. I dont drink water right after I eat, but it does not seem to matter when I drink water, it seems to make my heartburn worse. Please advice.
argnit123 last decade
In my posts to you recorded above I have requested you to confirm that you are NOT using any of the drugs that you have been prescribed like Protonix and other drugs for your GERD today. You have not done so up to now although you have list the many drugs and remedies you have used.

This information is necessary to enable me to figure out what your response is to the Nat Phos / Arnica therapy that I have prescribed.

Your chest pains and stomach aches may be due to your gastric juice digesting the mucous layer in your stomach and attacking the stomach walls. It is possible to prevent this by eating a biscuit or a fruit every few hours to keep your stomach busy digesting the food instead of your stomach wall.

I must mention here that I am only guessing what it really wrong with you as this it the type of diagnosis that must be made by a physician perhaps after an endoscopy. At this stage however we can treat your problem with Nat Phos 6x dose 6 tablets after a meal and Arnica 30c in the Wet dose taken thrice daily.

You must also eat small meals, avoid fatty food and strive to keep your stomach busy digesting food for a few weeks.

And do not drink any water immediately after a meal but you must drink plenty of water in small sips throughout the day.

No coffee, cola (COKE) beverages and no sweets like chocolate and of course no sausages, ham and bacon and hamburgers. A bland diet is indicated right now till your problem is stabilized.
Joe De Livera last decade
Also add to the taboos listed above:


Salads can exacerbate your condition as the human body is not designed to process raw vegetables which can promote infection from bacteria and parasites like pin and thread worms which were reported by 2 patients whom I am treating on the Fistula Fissure and Abscess thread.
Joe De Livera last decade
Hi joe,

I have been suffering from acidity since last 5 months.
I will explain my 5 months experience here.
1st month i got errosions and they were healed after 1 month of allopathy medicine that is a pantoprazole tablets and some other.

later whenever i dont take antacid(pantoprazole) i will face unsatisfied hungry.

I have 2 problems burning sensation in stomach and unsatisfied hungry that is I become hungry several times a day, if i dont take antacid.

Whenever i take antacids(pantoprazole or isoprazole) my hunger will come under control. If i leave the tablets same unsatisfied hungry and burning sensation in stomach will continue.

please let me know how to get rid of this problem
kaddi last decade
To Kaddi

The remedies that I have prescribed for GERD similar to yours are Nat Phos 6x tablets and Arnica 30c.
Dose 2-6 tablets of Nat Phos 6x after each meal. You will have to decide on the number of tablets depending on the severity of your ailment.

Arnica 30c in the Wet dose to rebuild the inner lining of your Esophagus which is eroded by the gastric juice that you have been refluxing in the past.

It is the combination of these 2 remedies that has succeeded in stabilizing and in many cases, curing GERD even in cases that were accepted as Chronic as in your case which had not been cured by both allopathic and homeopathic physicians.

You are invited to visit the link below to read the response of many patients to my therapy which you can follow precisely as outlined. If after you have used these 2 remedies for about a week and you still have any questions that you would like answered, please feel free to post again.


You can also type in GERD into the Search Box in the opening page of this Forum to access many others threads on GERD which will be of interest to you.

It is understood that you will not use any other drug or remedy when using my therapy.
Joe De Livera last decade
Mr. Joe - I had posted in my previous questionaire reply about Protonix. I haven't taken it way before I started taking Nat Phos and will not take it again due to the side effects I had.
I had an endoscopy done a year back and I was diagnosed with GERD with no ulcers or any other complications. I will follow your suggestions, I also notice that I cannot eat large meals anymore, as it makes me feel weak and dizzy afterwards. Do you have any suggestions for allergies that I had mentioned before? I am afraid to take anything now due to fear of interference with my current treatment of Nat Phos. Also, would it be ok to take baking soda in water once in a while when there is heavy discomfort like chest pain. Will this interfere with my treatment? Thanks
argnit123 last decade
Please rest assured that you will never want to take the baking soda as the Nat Phos 6x is a far more effective remedy to help you to overcome your GERD. You will be the best judge of the number of tablets you should take after a meal as long as you do not exceed 6.

It is possible that 6 tablets may cause diarrhoea when you will have to reduce the number of tablets.

You must also drink at least 3 ltrs of liquids preferably water daily but not after a meal.
Joe De Livera last decade
I need help urgently regarding my symptoms. I had taken Pulsatilla 200c a month ago for PMS symptoms of irritability. I think I may be proving this remedy. I never used to have any pains in my lower abdomen but now I have sharp pains similar to contractions and this has been going on for a week now. I am taking Nat Phos 6x and Arnica 30c per Joe's advice for GERD now. I am also having swelling in my left knee in the exactly same spot that had got injured a year ago from which I still have Baker's cyst. The swelling moved to below my knee area and then on application of heat it subsided and now my knee (front of my knee) is swollen. In addition to this I am having left sided neck pain, left chest pain, I feel like my left side is falling apart with so many issues. My primary care physician says it is all muscular pain but I am wondering if it is related to Pulsatilla and Arnica that I have taken/ taking. Can someone please advice me as to what I should do. Does these symptoms mean that my medicine is working or am I proving the medicine? If so, should I antidote the medicine and how?
argnit123 last decade
I would like to reassure you that the two remedies you are taking today for your GERD cannot be the reason for your other symptoms which you listed and there is absolutely no necessity for antidoting them today in view of the fact that you indicated that your GERD had been helped by them.

It is very likely that this improvement will continue into the future and you will have to be patient and continue to use them as instructed. You can reduce the Nat Phos to the minimum dosage that helps you to overcome any gastric distress.
Joe De Livera last decade
Hi All

Please let me know is there any good homeopathy doctor available to treat acidity
in Bangalore
kaddi last decade
Hi All

Where these tablets are available in india(bangalore)
Nat Phos 6x
and Arnica30c
kaddi last decade
detected with grade a esophagitis From Akshat on 2010-01-21
2 replies 8 views
Hi Doctor,

I have been detected with GRADE A ESOPHAGITIS.
I am taking medicines like Rantac 150 and Ganaton 0 from last 15 days.
Initially I felt improvement is there but from 3 days again i am feeling food is coming to the troat.
Now everybody suggested me to take Homoepathic medicines.
I am totally avoiding Oily Food.
And I am taking very light food with minimum Oil.
I was a smoker with 5-6 cigrattes a day but few months before I stopped that also.

Before having this problem I was having too much acidity and I was taking Digene Syrup and Omez sometimes to avoid it.

Coming 24th Feb is my marriage and I dont know whether I should cancel the same or not?
Can you please tell me some medicines which will help me to get rid of this disease completely before my marriage.I can follow any strict precautions you will suggest.

Also do let me know whether I should postponed my marriage because of this problem???

Please help me doctor I am very much tensed because of the same.
Akshat last decade
It is very likely that you will soon be able to overcome your GERD which is what your doctors have diagnosed your case as Esophagitis. This condition is due to the reflux of your gastric juice from your stomach up into your Esophagus which is not designed to withstand the gastric juice which is so very corrosive that a drop if placed on the back of your hand will digest your skin in under 10 minutes.

It would seem a pity to postpone your wedding but it is best that you inform your bride to be that you suffer from this ailment which hopefully will be cured well before your wedding date. You can type GERD into the Search Box at the top of the opening page on this forum to read the many cases that have been cured by me and others where the patients have confirmed their cure.

The remedy you must use immediately is Nat Phos 6x Dose 3-6 tablets taken immediately after a meal. This remedy will ensure that the feeling of fullness and the burning sensation in your stomach is overcome and prevent the food coming up into your throat as reported by you.

You must also use Arnica 30c in the Wet dose taken twice daily and it is made up as follows:

Order the remedy in a 5ml Ethanol pack in a bottle with a dropper arrangement.
If this is not available the Dry dose in pellets may be used but this is not as effective as the remedy in the original Ethanol pack.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops or 5 pellets of the remedy into the bottle and shake it hard to produce bubbles. This is homeopathic succussion and must be done every time before a capful of the bottle which is the dose is taken as directed.

I note that you have stopped smoking and are avoiding oily food. Eat small meals and do not overload your stomach but you may eat more often if you feel hungry.

Do not drink more than a sip of water after a meal but drink at least 3 ltrs of water or other liquid leaving an hour before or after a meal. Exercise is also essential as it is part of the therapy and you must sweat it out daily if possible.

It is understood that you will STOP all other drugs and medicines you may be taking today.

I wish you well and all happiness in your future wedded life.
Joe De Livera last decade
This Message is for Dr. Joe De Livera, Sir u had suggested me via another platform to take joepathy as u suggested nat phos+arnica and also to take Robina Pseudacacia 3c in the Wet dose taken twice daily.

I just wanted to confirm is it 3c or 30c, am confused as I am unable to find 3c for Robinia via internet.

One more thing: You have suggested to take the wet dose medicine as: insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done every time before sipping a capful of the bottle twice daily.

I want to know whether this wet dose can be used as long as it lasts or we have to make the wet dose regularly and discard it daily, as I think sipping a capful of the bottle twice daily will not finish the entire 500 ml liquid.

How could the abnormality of the LES get fixed doctor, am worried.?

Anupam Das
notme last decade
To Anupam

Do you not have any other work to fill up your time?

This is the fourth time I am wasting my time on you and shall copy my post on another thread for your edification and for the information of other members who may wonder why I am MAD at you.

Here is my reply by email followed by my response to your identical post on 2 other threads:

re: gerd/acid reflux From Joe De Livera on 2011-10-24
I have already replied another of your post a short while ago on another thread.

Please count me out of treating you in the future as you are taking mean advantage of my patience.

You can consult other classical homeopaths on this Forum in the future.

Here is my post to you copied from another thread.

Re: Dr. Joe De Livera - Natural GERD Remedy Help Please From Joe De Livera on 2011-10-24
If you are Anupam Das, I have already replied your email which answers your questions.

You must understand that I have patiently answered ALL your questions during the past 2-3 weeks by email and you are only wasting my time by posting your problem again here on the ABC.

I do not do email consultations but since your dad spoke to me and later you also did, I continued to treat him and you by email.

Please do not waste my time as I have many other matters to attend to.

If 3c Is not available you can get the 6c.

You will use the whole bottle in about 2 months.

You must pour out about 100ml of the water before you insert the 3 drops of the remedy.

What is LES?

On Oct 24, 2011, at 12:21 AM, Anupam Das wrote:

doc joe,
u suggested nat phos+arnica and also to take Robina Pseudacacia 3c in the Wet dose taken twice daily.

I just wanted to confirm is it 3c or 30c, am confused as I am unable to find 3c for Robinia via internet.

One more thing: You have suggested to take the wet dose medicine as: insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done every time before sipping a capful of the bottle twice daily.

I want to know whether this wet dose can be used as long as it lasts or we have to make the wet dose regularly and discard it daily, as I think sipping a capful of the bottle twice daily will not finish the entire 500 ml liquid.

How could the abnormality of the LES get fixed doctor, am worried.? As u said arnica will cure the eroded lining of esophagus, how the LES will be fixed?
Also please note that Nat phos 6x has mixed effect on my GERD as I dont feel immediate relief from taking this.
Anupam Das
Joe De Livera last decade
Sorry Doctor Joe,
Please accept my heartfelt apology for wasting your time, I am not taking mean advantage of your patience and time.

As there are many threads where Dr. Joe addresses to Gerd treatment by Gerd so I was not sure where I can post my query as you didnot replied to my last mail...now I got the reply of the mail alongwith disheartening thread reply, It is not that I intentionally wasted doctor's precious time, but was not sure of the exact thread as you advice regarding Gerd in many threads. Once again sorry doctor. May be the disease has made me mad over 6 long years and many a times I feel that my back has touched the end of the wall!!! Once again please accept my sincere apology. I have addressed all your thread reply and apologised everywhere, you need not have to answer everywhere but just let me know the thread where exactly can I post my progress.
notme last decade

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