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Acid reflux - Nat phos 6x

I started to have Acid refulx problem with cough about 2 months ago. Early on few times the acid coming to my throat choked and that's when I checked with ENT only to find about acid reflux problem |(probably a LPR). I have had some indigestion and gas issue (little serious ones - nowhere close to what happenend with choking feeling) but happened only couple of times in a year. I started with Allopathy (Omez) and then moved to Homeo medicine called 'Nixocid' as advised by my friend. I had a mixed success with it. I then read Dr. Joe post here about Nat phos 6x and I have been on it for last 3-4 weeks. Also I visited a homeopath in Delhi area and he has given me some medication (along with Nat Phas 6x after meals) that improved the gas formation in chest area - I don't know what he has given because they don't tell !!!
One of problem that I see that comes and goes is throat issue - something stuck in throat, sometimes clearing my throat. I don't have classical acid reflux problem like heartburn but sometimes I have feeling - though minor now- cant belch properly or gas stuck in chest. Some days are ok and then I have this problem again. I have been taking very simpe indian food and no spicy and fatty food
I do normally belch after my meals
can somebody help me this - how long Nat phos 6X will need to resolve this throat issue - this bother me a lot. Should I take Arnica 30 C wet dose?
  devav on 2011-09-21
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Hi there,

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nawazkhan last decade
It is very likely that you are suffering from Gastritis aka GERD (Gastro Esophagal Reflux disease) and I shall copy the therapy I have prescribed to hundreds of patients who presented GERD, the large majority of whom have been cured.

Your remedies are as follows:

Nat Phos 6x dose 3-4 tablets taken immediately after each of 2 meals
Arnica 30c in the Wet dose taken twice daily.

You can expect relief from your ailment hopefully within 24 hours.
Do not eat large meals. Eat small meals but more often if you feel hungry. Do not drink more that a few sips of water after your meals. This is to prevent the further dilution of your gastric juice which can then reflux into your Esophagus which results in GERD.

It is important that you do not go to bed for at least 2 hours after dinner as food will take about this time to digest and it is best to stay awake and upright to enable your food to digest before going to bed.

No fatty food, alcohol, coffee, preserved meats like sausages, ham, bacon as they contain Saltpeter which will antidote the remedies listed immediately.

If you suffer from a stomach ache or you feel your stomach puffing up before a meal during the day between meals this is usually due to hunger pains, caused by your gastric juices attacking the inner wall of your stomach. The simple remedy is to eat some food like a biscuit or a banana to keep the gastric juice away from digesting the stomach wall when you will experience a stomach ache which in some cases can be very acute.

You must drink at least 3 liters of liquids, preferably water daily and you must also exercise for at least half hour daily to sweat it out as this is all part of my therapy to overcome GERD.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in a 5ml Liquid Alcohol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done every time before sipping a capful of the bottle twice daily.

Please visit the links below which record the cases of other patients whom I have treated for GERD.




STOP using all other drugs and report progress in a week.
Joe De Livera last decade
[message edited by devav on Wed, 08 Feb 2017 03:11:56 UTC]
devav last decade
Dr Joe
GERD was daignosed by ENT on July 16th and I did take allopathy for 15 days. Then I started taking Nat phos 6x (german) and it has been nearly 3-4 weeks now. I take it morning, lunch time and after dinner.
It appears that I am not taking the Arnica 30C wet dose. I have defintely have relief but the throat issue comes and goes. Why do you think it comes and goes even after taking Nat phos.daily. On certain days even after Nat Phos, I can see the throat irritation remains for days and then it disappears.
I am going to make the wet dose of Arnica 30 c and start taking it.
I also suffer from Hyperthyroidism from nearly 8 years and having been taking allopathy medicine. Any medicine for it.
devav last decade
'Mind-behavior, anger, irritability, hurry, impatient…and so on.. How are you different from other persons, public speaking or not , you can describe all of the details about your behavior, love and affections. '

Please answer the above in detail.
nawazkhan last decade
'25. Current and previous remedies/medicines you are taking or took in the past?
Hyperthyroidism '

Please provide details of all remedies are you taking with potency information?
nawazkhan last decade
To Devav

How many tablets of Nat Phos do you take after a meal?

The number of tablets you take should be sufficient for your stomach to empty itself and in your case you can take up to 6 tablets which should be sufficient to send your food down. Nat Phos works by accelerating the passage of food down the gut, thereby preventing the accumulation of acid which occurs when the food is stagnant in the stomach.

The Arnica 30c in the Wet dose is an integral part of my therapy aka 'Joepathy' to help patients to permanently overcome GERD as it works by rebuilding the Esophagus which is usually eroded by the refluxed gastric juice which comes right up to your tongue and often gives that sour burning taste.

It is most likely that your Hyperthyroidism will also be cured when your GERD is stabilized. Let us first fix your GERD which I estimate will be within a week and we can then address our mind to your Thyroid problem.
Joe De Livera last decade

[message deleted by devav on Wed, 08 Feb 2017 03:35:06 UTC]
devav last decade
Dr. Joe
I usually take 3 tablets after Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner - when it was bad I would make it 4 tablets.
I am sorry I have Hypothyrodism and I take drug similar to Eltroxin.
Thanks for all your help.
I have been telling folks to try Nat Phox 6x for their acidity
devav last decade
I note that you have not confirmed that you are also taking Arnica 30 in the Wet dose. I shall copy my advice to you in my post above:

'The Arnica 30c in the Wet dose is an integral part of my therapy aka 'Joepathy' to help patients to permanently overcome GERD as it works by rebuilding the Esophagus which is usually eroded by the refluxed gastric juice which comes right up to your tongue and often gives that sour burning taste.'
Joe De Livera last decade
Dr. Joe,
Sorry, I have ordered Arnica 30c and I am supposed to get it today or tomorrow. Yes I will make that wet dose and let you know as soon as possible.
I have never felt any sour taste on tongue but do feel throat irritation. It appears the acid leaks upto throat and I do not feel. Is it that when I belch, this acid leaks.
Thanks again. Will come back soon.
devav last decade
I have started to take the Arnica wet dose now. Had a bit of restless night...don't know why. I am better today with very minor throat irritation. Let us see how it does over the weekend.
Thanks Dr. Joe...will keep you posted
devav last decade
Dr. Joe,
I feel that i have some constipation. Bowl movement are a bit erratic. What do I do?

Today I feel that throat was much better. I will assess this situation over the weekend
Thank you
devav last decade
You can increase the Nat Phos 6x to 4 tablets per dose and see how it helps your constipation.
Joe De Livera last decade
Dr. J Livera
I have been taking Nat phos 4 tablets and Arnica 30c wet dose twice daily.
This morning I felt the throat irritation (swallowing something in throat kind also). I had lunch and I took Nat phos 5 tablets. After 30 - 45 minutes, I felt that throat had choking feeling and I took few glasses of water and I belched and quite a bit and this lasted for 1 hours or more. Still have a minor feeling at throat and gas in chest. I use to have this when this Acidity started.
Please guide if I need to add anything to current medicine that I am taking.
Again many thanks for your help.
[message edited by devav on Sat, 24 Sep 2011 12:03:03 BST]
[message edited by devav on Sat, 24 Sep 2011 12:11:47 BST]
devav last decade
I do not think that Nat Phos alone even in larger doses can help you. You will add:

Aethusa Cynapium 6c in the Wet dose taken thrice daily.
This remedy will reduce the production of acid in your stomach and hopefully will help you.

Report your response in 3 days.
Joe De Livera last decade
Dr. Livera
do you think gastric issue is due to acidity? Medicine like Carbo Veg and Nux Vomica won't help here?
Nat phos has been quite helpful for last 3 weeks or more but today the gas just flared it.
Today I visited a doctor and they read my pulse (ayurveda and another classical homeopath) and told that I had more gastric issue and very minor acidity. Please let me know your thoughts. thank you
devav last decade
I do not practice Classical Homeopathy as I have found after some years of religiously following its precepts aided by Radar, which as you are perhaps aware is a very powerful Homeopathic Software, that the direct approach of treating the Disease the patient presents is by far more rational and more effective than treating the 'Symptoms that the patient presents with a Single remedy'.

My therapy aka 'Joepathy' has worked very well but at the expense of ruffling the feathers of the classical sect who coined this term Joepathy in the hope that I will desist from using it. In my case I do not charge for my service which at age 82 I have extended freely to all who consult me.

I am not knowledgeable on Ayurvedha and cannot therefore comment. I do wonder however how anyone can tell you 'that I had more gastric issue and very minor acidity'.

The fact that you have constant irritation in your throat is symptomatic of the gastric juice in your stomach refluxing to your throat and it is essential to stop the flow of excess acid which Aethusa Cynapium 6c in the Wet dose taken thrice daily will hopefully do.
Joe De Livera last decade
Dr. Livera, I don't mean to undermine your experience and knowledge. I respect the fact that you do it for free and are very keen to help the patients.
I have some exposure to homeopathy as our family believes in it. I had never heard about Aethusa Cynapium and when I read on the internet about it, I could not make out complete connection to my case ...but I again I am not a doctor and you're.
Do you mind if I take of Carbo veg and Nux for few days along with Nat phos + arnica therapy and see if it can do anything. If not I will try Aethusa medicine and let you know.
On throat front, the irritation remains parially on a day (or completely goes away) but then I have to deal gas issue in my chest and I have to let out that trapped gas (is this also related to acidit?)- mild to moderate on a given day in last 2 days.
What are your thoughts..
Again I thank you from the bottom of my heart for the services that you provide to all us.
[message edited by devav on Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:21:34 BST]
[message edited by devav on Wed, 08 Feb 2017 03:36:45 UTC]
devav last decade
I cannot prevent you from taking any remedy you wish to take as you are the patient.

In my experience Carbo Veg is a waste of time but Nux V can help.
Joe De Livera last decade
Dr. Livera
How can one control the Lower Esophageal spincter which could be cuplrit in leaking acid upward. Is there any remedy to strengthen that valve?
Thank you
devav last decade
The LE Sphincter valve will permit gastric juice to reflux up into the Esophagus if there is an excess of gastric juice in the stomach.

My therapy which I have outlined above is designed to stabilize this problem.

I note that you have not taken my advice and you have even suggested a variation to my therapy in your last post.

When you are prepared to follow my Joepathy pricisely as prescribed, please contact me again.
Joe De Livera last decade
Dr. Livera
Sorry for one more intrusion --- Can you please explain under what circumsatnces is this Aethusa C used - what makes you conclude about this medicine in my case? I have not seen this prescribed on any website for hyperacidity.

I hope you don't mind this question. thank you again
devav last decade
[message edited by vimlakilli on Wed, 05 Mar 2014 16:37:57 GMT]
vimlakilli last decade
No I had to take Pan 40 for a month to control my symptoms. I then moved to Aryurveda and it had controlled my symptoms and I still medicines to control it. Somehow I have had no luck with homeopathy and I strongly believe there is some medicine there.
devav last decade

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