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Dear nawazkhan,

Thank you so much for your prayers.

The problem I'm having is that when im using the Ventolin inhaler on a SOS basis its helping me breath for a a couple of hrs,once the inhaler wears off im back to a wheezy chest,tight chest and heavy breathing.

I'm not ignoring your advice as i am ever so grateful that you are helping me.I can order the Ipecac 30c but this will take a couple of days before it arrives.

Sure I will discuss with Joe your kind advice.

I pray that prayers are heard.Ameen.
 
Alhambra last decade
It is very important that you start your medication again right away.

It is IRRESPONSIBLE for people here to be telling you to go off asthma medication before it is clear you are on the right remedies.

Even IF it is clear the remedies are healing you, withdrawal from medication must be slow and gradual, with constant assessment to see how you are reacting.

Asthma can kill you, sudden attacks can happen at any time when medication is suddenly stopped.

Go back on your medication immediately. Insist that you get proof that the people treating you have medical backgrounds - you will find that they do not and that they are not qualified in anyway to be giving this kind of dangerous advice.

I will not sit quietly while someone's life is put at risk. For God's sake don't let your overblown egos kill someone.

This needs to be done sensibly, carefully, and with the least amount of risk to the person's life. Quite frankly it should be done under the supervision of a sympathetic doctor as well.

David Kempson
Professional Homoeopath
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Tue, 19 Jul 2011 01:47:36 BST]
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
David,
'It is IRRESPONSIBLE for people here to be telling you to go off asthma medication before it is clear you are on the right remedies.
'
Where do you read that she should go off asthma medication?

Again, your irresponsilble statements and prejudice amazes me from the following.
'Insist that you get proof that the people treating you have medical backgrounds - you will find that they do not and that they are not qualified in anyway to be giving this kind of dangerous advice.
'
I am sure you are going to the mirror in your bathroom and looking at your face over and over and only see that all people are like you.

'I will not sit quietly while someone's life is put at risk. For God's sake don't let your overblown egos kill someone.
'
To date what help have you extended to this sick person???? Except throwing your useless classroom ideas, a lip service and criticism to others.

At least, I'll be very careful from you in the future.
[message edited by nawazkhan on Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:38:07 BST]
 
nawazkhan last decade
Joe De Livra :'Start on my therapy while using the minimum of your drugs. Stop the Seretide but use the Ventolin when necessary. '


Patient: 'The condition that I am in now and I say this from past experiences is purely based on me not taking the seretide disk.'

Joe De Livra: 'If you feel that you must use the Seretide you can do so but only on a SOS basis.'


Patient: 'An update into my condition.

I am struggling a lot without my daily intake of Allopathic medicines.

I have now reached the point that I am out of breath just walking a few meters.The breathing is so intense I Have started to have spams in my back to due to heavy breathing

Please advise me what to do?

My condition is very bad that if I was go to see my gp they would give me a nebuliser and possibly another course of steroids tablets(prednisilone.'


This is the wrong advice to be giving someone, and is putting their life at risk.

In my country this advice would not only have you taken of the register and disallowed from practicing homoeopathic medicine, but it would likely have you prosecuted and jailed as well.

I am sure that it must be very comforting to sit back in the safety of another country.

You can insult me all you want Nawaz, but Joe is very much in the wrong with this case, and you are colluding with him to make it worse.

Alhambra there are ways to do this, and there are ways to harm or kill yourself. No-one should ask you to go off your preventatives like this.

What is worse, is that your body takes a few days to lose the protection of the steroids, and it takes days to build it back up again. In that time of restarting, you can suffer a dangerous attack. You need to restart back on them RIGHT AWAY.

If a correct homoeopathic medicine is selected, you will notice the difference. As an asthma sufferer for many years, I remember that you could tell the difference between the asthma being better, and it just being suppressed with the drugs. Once you feel that difference then the medication can be SLOWLY reduced.

This is insanity at its worse - whatever the right or wrong of patients being put on such medication in the first place, once they are dependent you cannot just remove the drugs at a whim.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
'You can insult me all you want Nawaz, but Joe is very much in the wrong with this case, and you are colluding with him to make it worse.'

I am not insulting you at all and truly not colluding with anyone. You are assuming and pre-judging all of this David. There is no fact in the above. You must come out of your emotional state and select a constitutional remedy for this patient immediately.
 
nawazkhan last decade
I can only hope that Alhambra has not already been harmed and has the opportunity to try homoeopathy again in a safe and responsible manner.

Your request that I step in to fix this mess up is out of place, and can only be requested by the person whose health is being threatened here. I am certainly cannot see how I am obliged to follow your commands - really, I 'must step in and prescribe'. What on earth makes you think you have the right to demand that of me?

Oh the insult was about me staring in the mirror and thinking everyone looks like me - you thought that was a compliment did you? Own up to what you say at least, even if you are not owning up to what you are doing.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Clearly a number of people on this site think that homoeopathic prescribing is some kind of game, a little experiment they can indulge in from the safety of their homes, immune to the consequences of their actions.

This is not ok. This is neither fair to people who are suffering nor is it moral. Throwing remedies at people with little rhyme or reason is bad enough, breaking the rules and principles on which homoeopathy is built will always get my back up, but convincing them to remove what medical support they currently have - no, this is worse than that. We can have our little tiffs and spats over philosophy, I am sure that will never change. But act with some blasted common sense - people's lives are not there for you to play around with. They are real people.

I wonder if this anonymity provided by an internet forum doesn't seriously impair people's empathy. I think if you worked in a real clinic, with real patients, and saw real suffering, you might be more careful here. Working in my own comminity, I actually see the real world results of what I do, my reputation actually depends on it.

Just to be clear Nawaz, and for Joe when he wakes up and wades in to start his round of mocking insults, this is not an argument about philosophy. You have made a serious error in judgement here, and it needs to be corrected immediately so that this patient doesn't die.

If you are going to pretend to be practitioners of homoeopathy, take on the burden of responsibility that comes with it in a genuine way.

And yes...obviously I am pretty upset over this. This is important and should not be a contest of egos.
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Tue, 19 Jul 2011 03:48:44 BST]
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Heal me David and I might become another future homeopath trained by the sydney college

Nice story by the way, thanks for sharing
 
Silicea last decade
Right now, it appears that you are very angry, please relax and help all of us as usual with your in-depth knowledge of homoeopathy! Please don't take me wrong. Please take a single dose of Kali Phos 30C that will certainly calm you down. Please do not accuse me as I have not done anything against you. Please take a good rest and then, come back with a positive attitude.
 
nawazkhan last decade
David is right leaving medicines so early in asthma isn't wise. It will take some amount of time with homeopathy to stop those. Nawaz is also right for requesting David to help patient with his knowledge but its all up to patient and david either she want it or or Will David have that much time take the case on request of patient.

There seems some real misunderstanding between David and Nawaz.
 
Paki1 last decade
I am helping the patient, by telling him that he should not stop his medication cold turkey.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
I suffered from asthma and that was a typical nervous asthma when i got into tense situations i used to get it the tickling cough and then wheexing at dusk time etc...
Some how i tried Hypericum, my tense nerves (attitude ) as well as my asthma went away with 30 potency...along with coccyx region pain.

COugh returned after couple of days and i had turned to 200 potency and that day(2005 till today i havent had any cough while tense)
My attitude towards life frineds people changed positively and i have developed good relations with many.
I went through frans vereulen book concodant materia medica and there it was asthma occuring from spinal injury. which i had it in my school days as i could not walk properly for a week at that time..
Homeopathy does wonders.
 
hisam last decade
:)
[message edited by Nikkie on Thu, 04 Aug 2011 06:31:29 BST]
 
Nikkie last decade
This is going to sound maybe inappropriate or to emotional but I feel I need to say

I feel inspired/motivated by seeing that good people actually still do exist. It's motivating to someone who lost a bit of his moral over the past few years as the mental problems got bigger and by believing there are no good people anymore.

Thanks
 
Silicea last decade
Dear Alhambra,

I hope and pray that you are feeling OK.

Please post your current symptoms in detail.

Many many prayers for your good health.

Regards
Nawaz
 
nawazkhan last decade
FAO: Joe De Livera,
Nawazkhan,brisbanehomeopath,
Nikkie,Paki1,Hisam

I'm not the most perfect person when it comes to explaining matters so I will try my best to shed light on my thoughts and present condition as best possible so please forgive me if anyone misunderstands me as this is clearly not my intention,therefore please feel free to respond if you believe I have been unjust in this post.

I will begin by saying that I know that everyone that has posted any information here has done this because they care and most importantly they want to help me.

I am ever so grateful for every second you dedicate for me whether its the thought,your prayers,reading my post or seeking advice furthermore my case is taking your valuable time and effort so I would like to acknowledge that I am deeply indebted to you all.

As you must have gathered my condition declined rapidly especially over the last 24hrs and unfortunately I haven't heard from Joe De Livera since the 17th July.I pray that he is well and in good health.Ameen.
Does anyone know how I can contact him?

My condition led me to the requiring urgent medical attention.I had to be Transparent with the Doctor that I wasn't taking my daily intake of medication and you must try to understand that they dont accept the therapy and philosophy of homeopathy.

Now this isn't the first time I have required urgent medical attention as this has been the story of my life since the age 11yrs old.so Please dont think that im blaming any individuals for this.

Now before I can try to restart homeopathy treatment,I want to say that because of my condition over the last 24hrs nawazkhan and brisbanehomeopth have not seen eye to eye or at least that's how I have read it.

I want to apologize to you both that because of me this has happened.I didn't want this to happen to two highly respected and humane doctors.I know I haven't met or seen you both but you are very highly regarded in my eyes.

I can only speak for myself but im sure that everyone who visits this forum will agree you very important to us all.your advice to us here on this forum is invaluable.

Nikkie thanks for your post and prayers as always.Your a gem honestly.you're a wonderful humanitarian.Thanks a million for your post once again.I will definitely ask you should any queries arise.I just hope Joe sees your post as im not sure whats Happened to him.Keep in touch.

Joe De Livera how are you?
Is everything okay?
Can you please have a look at what Nikkie posted please?
Nikkie has responded to what you requested.What would you like to do?
May God keep you safe.
Really worried that you haven't posted anything in relation to my updates.

BrisbaneHomeopath what do you recommend for me please?You have advised me like Nikkie that you suffered from this condition.Your experience though it must be awful to have had this condition is very invaluable to me and other who suffer from this chronic Asthma condition.You're a true inspiration that with a severe Asthma condition you never give up and have gone on to become a homeopathic doctor.An real example for others to follow.Really look forward to hear from you.

Nawazkhan many thanks for your prayers and advice.You requested that I discuss with Joe De Livera what you recommended unfortunately he hasn't posted anything since the 17th.You advice hasn't fallen on deaf ears though,i can assure you.Always happy to hear from you.May God reward you for your efforts and prayers.

For everyone that has read my post.I would like to thank you for your time.
I hope and pray that whoever out there that has any condition that you find a cure.
Please forgive me if i have forgot to mention any names or said anything that has hurt anyone's feeling.

God bless you all.

Alhambra
 
Alhambra last decade
To Alhambra

This is to reassure you that I am perfectly OK.

The reason for my abstaining from participating anymore on this thread is due to the infernal interference and insults to me and other Homeopaths who are trying to help you from David Kempson whose posts made yesterday are an indication of the turmoil in his brain which impels his rants on this otherwise peaceful Homeopathic Forum.

I resent his intrusion into a thread on the basis that he and he alone can cure the patient. Strangely enough he does not deign to do so and seems to only be present on the sidelines to criticize me and other homeopaths who have been advising on the ABC many long years before he decided to inflict his presence here.

He seems obsessed with his own interpretation of homeopathy which he claims to have inherited from a source that is above all the therapy that has been accepted as the norm and has been proved to help and cure the patient. I have often pointed out in other threads, many cases of David criticizing me for my therapy even after the patient confirmed that s/he was CURED !

it is my hope that suitable steps will be taken by the owner of the ABC Simon Broadley, to ensure that David Kempson is brought back to his senses and compelled to behave rationally or otherwise barred from this Forum

I shall follow this thread with interest and hope that someone else can succeed in helping you to overcome your chronic Asthma in the near future.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe,

I'm so relieved to hear that your perfectly okay.I was very worried about you but thank god you have replied.

My condition worsened quite rapidly and because I hadn't heard from you so I visited the GP.Al praise to the Almighty I was given the nebuliser and few cold words from my GP trying to attempt me with not bothering with homeopathy but that hasn't dampened my spirit so im gonna continue with Homeopathy.

Are you not gonna treat me anymore then?
Nikkie replied to you post about her medication.what do you think?
 
Alhambra last decade
:)
[message edited by Nikkie on Thu, 04 Aug 2011 06:32:36 BST]
 
Nikkie last decade
Well it may be obvious from my passionate and somewhat irritated posts (not directed at you by any means) that stopping your orthodox medication before being sure you are on the path to cure is a bad idea. This is not your fault, you were simply following what you thought were instructions on how to treat homoeopathically. This was not true and put you at risk. There are old arguments on this forum that flare up at times. Such events put none of us in the best light.

It is a cardinal rule in homoeopathic treatment of patients who are using suppressive treatments to control dangerous symptoms to never withdraw them suddenly from such drugs. There are various ways of dealing with the situation which will not create any dangerous situations for you.

One is to simply take all the symptoms from the current situation, and then take all the symptoms from the situation before the drugs (if remembered) and prescribe the indicated medicine. This medicine should be 'constitutional' (aimed at changing the soil, so to speak, in which your disease has sprung up). This method is suitable when the disease is poorly suppressed (it remains highly visible) or there are many other symptoms that are not related to the medicated disease.

A second method is to very slowly reduce the amount of medication you take, and wait for the asthma to worsen slightly. These symptoms then form the basis for a prescription. This is most appropriate when the symptoms are completely suppressed so that the disease is mostly hidden.

The potency may need to be specific one suited to the problem of daily drug use eg. the LM potency scale is often helpful here or even the lower part of the C scale.

Which method suits you would depend on how your case looks when it is taken.

Any chronic disease needs to be looked at holistically - the whole thing, from beginning to end, top to bottom, inside and out. For diseases that are being suppressed you may only see one part, so that is what you work with. All sorts of approaches might be needed - different methods of analyzing cases have grown up over the years. Again, until your case is taken properly, it is hard to say which one might best suit you.

Forums like this are difficult places to be attempting cure of chronic diseases, but it can be done with some work.

While I do not like to be goaded into treating people, I certainly do feel some sense of responsibility in creating the furor I did here (which I still believe was the correct thing to do, even if I tend to do these things in a hot-headed way). If you wish me to take your case and treat you according to the principles of homoeopathy I can do that.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Many thanks for your post Nikkie,which i am very grateful and I am indebted to you for all your support and prayers but I am now very confused into should I continue with homeopathy or not.

I really cant afford to go through the process of giving it all and then the doctor treating me decides not to treat me or respond back to me because another doctor has posted his opinion.

Its simply has left me distraught.It just doesn't make sense that here I am doing exactly as what I was told to do and while other doctors or people are posting there opinions or professional advice I am here waiting and worrying.

I'm not giving sides,I mean I was so worried for Joe and eventually when he did post he hopes that someone else can succeed in helping me overcome my chronic Asthma.

After all he requested that if you could recollect the therapy you used.

what did i do wrong?
I really dont understand.Please tell if I did something wrong.

All I did was beg for help so that I could find a cure for my illness.
 
Alhambra last decade
:)
[message edited by Nikkie on Thu, 04 Aug 2011 06:33:40 BST]
 
Nikkie last decade
It is good to note that David has accepted that his outbursts were totally uncalled for and he has now condescended to treat you.

I agree with his viewpoint in the treatment of Asthma and you will note that I did not request you to STOP the drugs and inhalers that you are using today but suggested that you gradually wean yourself away from them when you discover that the Homeopathic remedies are taking over to give you relief. David thought otherwise and this lead to all the consternation that resulted, so very unnecessarily.

You must accept that after suffering from this chronic disease for over 21 years you cannot possibly expect to be cured overnight. It can take a few months to do so but if it is of any comfort to you, you may like to know that I have succeeded in CURING 2 patients who like you were chronic Asthmatics and had been suffering from this disease for many years, one since babyhood when I cured her at age 20. She does not use my 'Joepathy' anymore. The other is a senior citizen who had been suffering from Asthma for some 30+ years whom I started to treat in 2005 who is now free of his multiple inhalers and tablets. He does however have to take the remedy that I have used all these years to help him.

I would suggest that you take David up on his offer as he has grudgingly stated that he is prepared to do so now:
'While I do not like to be goaded into treating people, I certainly do feel some sense of responsibility in creating the furor I did here (which I still believe was the correct thing to do, even if I tend to do these things in a hot-headed way). If you wish me to take your case and treat you according to the principles of homoeopathy I can do that.'
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Joe De Livera you must have your reasons for not wanting to treat my condition,although myself I cant put the finger on what the reason is!
I simply have no choice but to respect your decision.

In my 21yrs of this chronic condition in which I have had allopathic treatment,homeopathic treatment and herbal treatment.I have left no stone unturned in trying to find a cure for my illness.

In my attempt to try to find a cure this led me by accident to this site.I did what any person would do and that is to ask for help.

You came forward and offered to help and therefore I appreciate all your efforts,time and prayers.

Before I decide to continue with Homeopathy or not can you please clarify for me why you are suggesting that I take David up on his offer(Im guessing that's Brisbanehomeopath)and not Nikkie?

I look forward to hear from you.

Many thanks once again.

May God give you good health and happiness.

Alhambra
 
Alhambra last decade
The answer to your query is that David Kempson aka brisbanehomeopath is a qualified homeopath which both I and Nikkie are not. In view of the many attacks that I and another well meaning homeopath have been subjected to by David, I shall be interested to see how he treats your chronic Asthma of 21+ years.

In my case I have spend may years of study of this Science and have evolved a branch of Homeoapthy aka 'Joepathy' which has been proved to be effective. You may like to know that I am currently treating a 7 year old girl who has been a chronic Asthmatic for the last 4 years of her life and she has been able to stay off her drugs especially the Ventolin and Seretide Innalers for about 3 months but was forced to use them when she caught a cold which brought back her Asthma in full force. She is back on my therapy again. It is possible that you too will have to follow this same regimen for some months, perhaps years in the future where you will replace the drugs with Homeopathic remedies on the understanding that you will return to them in case of absolute need.

David has obviously treated many more cases of Asthma than I have done as to me Homeopathy is only a Hobby to which I am passionately dedicated at my advanced age of 82 years which alone is proof of the efficacy of my own brand of Homeopathy aka Joepathy. I am the CEO of a family owned business organization and I fill in my free time after my sons returned after their studies in Ivy League Universities in the US and one joined me in my business, leaving more free time at my disposal which I am now devoting to my Joepathy to help suffering humanity. You are invited to put this term on Google and also check my name Joe De Livera on Google for more information.

It is very rarely that David has consented to offer his services and I would like to observe on the sidelines as he invariably does whenever I prescribe any remedy to a patient, how he sets about helping and hopefully curing your Asthma with his classically generated therapy.

I shall be following your progress and if you have any questions please feel free to ask.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
David is just worried for patients safety and health.

...I wish good luck for curing alhambra's asthma.
 
Silicea last decade

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