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I am a yoga teacher and have been able to help many through yoga and meditation. If possible, see if you can join a yoga class. It would be advisable at least initially to not attempt trying on your own but under supervision.
 
hahnemann last decade
I am a yoga teacher and have been able to help many through yoga and meditation. If possible, see if you can join a yoga class. It would be advisable at least initially to not attempt trying on your own but under supervision.
 
hahnemann last decade
I am a yoga teacher and have been able to help many through yoga and meditation. If possible, see if you can join a yoga class. It would be advisable at least initially to not attempt trying on your own but under supervision.
 
hahnemann last decade
I am a yoga teacher and have been able to help many through yoga and meditation. If possible, see if you can join a yoga class. It would be advisable at least initially to not attempt trying on your own but under supervision.
 
hahnemann last decade
I am a yoga teacher and have been able to help many through yoga and meditation. If possible, see if you can join a yoga class. It would be advisable at least initially to not attempt trying on your own but under supervision.
 
hahnemann last decade
I am a yoga teacher and have been able to help many through yoga and meditation. If possible, see if you can join a yoga class. It would be advisable at least initially to not attempt trying on your own but under supervision.
 
hahnemann last decade
I am a yoga teacher and have been able to help many through yoga and meditation. If possible, see if you can join a yoga class. It would be advisable at least initially to not attempt trying on your own but under supervision.
 
hahnemann last decade
Jim - I can see where you are coming from but I have tried 3 times before to get off Prozac and each time I relapse into depression and end up back on it and feeling like a failure for giving in. I have tried Bach flower remedies - White Chestnut for tormenting thoughts and Mustard for the depression but they did not make much difference.

I do yoga as much as I can which does help but I am very busy at work and college so I dont have much time. i know thats not a good excuse but its a fact unfortunately.
 
waterfall last decade
Yes, Waterfall, this is the problem with Prozac...or Paxil...or Klonopin...or Effexor....name your poison. Once you sold the bill of goods and go on these drugs, it's an uphill battle to get off. Your body is addicted to them, your liver is trained to do whatever it can to metabolize them and, worse, your brain is conditioned to accept the numbed out effects. This is why I am SO much against these drugs. While I don't like antibiotics, they serve a purpose for a specific issue and there is no residual addictive quality. But these SSRIs or anti-anxiety drugs or ADD drugs (Ritalin) just cause such intrinsic imbalances.

Yes, of course, you have tried 3 times to get off Prozac and you end up feeling more depressed and then the whole "I'm a failure" stuff kicks in. Understood. But understand, that this is what addiction feels like! It's what cigarette smokers go through to the max when they try to give up nicotine (another drug). Same for heroin addicts. Meth addicts. The body is CONDITIONED and you are taking something away from it that it has come to expect and utilize. Take coffee away from a coffee addict and you'll see the same "I gotta have it" feeling and an almost sick sensation that can last for days. I am all for Bach Flowers and use them in my practice. I also utilize Lithium Orotate, a completely natural and very cheap supplement available in most health stores and on-line. (I've been using this on patients for over 10 years). This is not the same as the drug lithium. This is the mineral that can be taken everyday for the rest of your life with no side effects at all! One only needs 5mg to 15 mg. a day (that is 5 mg. tablets). It is a great supplement to put someone on once they are weaned off Prozac or any other antidepressant or anti anxiety pill. I have done this many times with great success. It gives an almost immediate lift and allows for a smoother transition while the drug is working its way out of the system. Remember that Prozac has been proven to have a "half life" in the liver. This means that the longer you are on it, the greater chance you will have "echos" of the drug even after you've been off it for a few days or a week. So, I used to put people on Bach Flowers or other flower/gem elixirs to transition but the hard core folks couldn't handle the transition. That's when I started to incorporate Lithium Orotate. It worked! But, after a month or more, the patient needed an additional boost. It wasn't that the lithium orotate stopped working...it just wasn't addressing the serotonin/melatonin imbalance that is so often seen in depressed and/or anxious people. And so I pulled everything I knew out of my bag of tricks. When homeopathy was indicated, I used that and it worked. But not for all. Some patients simply will not go through more emotional torture via the mental release of homeopathy when they are already so far down. We are treating PEOPLE, not numbers on a chart! As a compassionate person, I can't tell my 50-year-old female patient who just lost her husband to cancer that I can help her but there may be some more depression even for just a few days. She can't accept that when she's in a state of mourning and wondering what the point of life is anymore without her beloved mate. THIS is why I am so excited about this Seroctin. (Gosh, I sound like a sales rep for the stuff but I assure you, I am not.) In the now five patients I have on it (one more started yesterday), I am seeing outstanding results. And trust me, I have some of the most hard core patients on the face of this earth. Many of them come to me when they have exhausted all other means, both allopathic and alternative. So much of their maladies are stress related. I utilize adaptogens to support their endocrine system but these type of herbs can take 100 days to kick in. They DO work and work well but you can't tell a depressed person to hang in for 100 days before they are going to see positive results!!! Thus, Seroctin can work as that middle man that comes in and quickly smooths the transition. When the mind is then in a more positive, happy place, one's perspective is more open to other solutions. The walls are not so tight around you. THEN you are more able to handle the possible emotional effects of homeopathic treatment—treatment which I believe is the truly transformative approach. I don't want to just keep throwing herbs and supplements at someone! I want deep and meaningful change so one can live on a higher plane of existence and perception. I want to see my patients evolve!

I do not know if Seroctin will be a good transition supplement or a more regular supplement to maintain proper serotonin balance. It's all in the embryo stage right now as I suggest the supplement to those who can benefit from it and then observe their reactions to it.
 
Jim Sheldon ND last decade
Jim,

Glad to see you back on the Forum. Wanted to let you know that my brother-in-law has been taking Seroctin for about a month. His chiropractor told him about it. He travels on business two weeks out of the month and has problems with jet lag and sleep. That's the reason his chiropractor suggested Seroctin. Thus, I don't know if he's been shown to have low serotonin levels. Anyway, he LOVES it. Says it took about 8 days to kick in completely but he felt different in a good way after a few days on it. He is also taking pycnogenol (don't know the brand) and has been for some time to address his circulation problems. He wouldn't be without pycnogenol as he says it has "cured" his restless leg syndrome and given him greater energy.

Anyway, here's the interesting part....(This comes courtesy of my sister-in-law as my brother-in-law certainly wouldn't be telling me this). She says that ever since he started on the Seroctin, his libido is back and the transient impotence he often experienced is gone. Is this a normal "effect" from the Seroctin??? Could it replace Viagra???
 
laddy111 last decade
Laddy 111,

This should probably be on another posting since we're talking about panic attacks and anxiety on this one. However, the short answer is "yes." I work with a lot of male patients who have ED, some due to prostate issues and some due to emotional trauma. I address them all individually. However, I've been using a trio of supplements lately with great success. I base this on a study done on L-arginine and Pycnogenol to address ED. Won't bore you with the study but suffice to say that male participants who suffered from ED were given 120 mg./day of pycnogenol and 1.5 grams of l-arginine in divided doses. Within one month, 80% of the men reported complete success. The other 20% of men reported moderate success. So, the study concluded that a combo of pycnogenol and l-arginine was a genuine treatment for ED. I added the Seroctin to the mix at 4 to 6 capsules/day and found that it created an even better libido boost, along with relieving stress-related ED. So, it seems that your brother-in-law stumbled onto the mix (minus the l-arginine) and proved the results on his own. Pycnogenol does wonders for prostatitis and Seroctin, I've just learned, has been used in Europe for a shrunken prostate, so there is a viable connection to WHY it works.
 
Jim Sheldon ND last decade
Hi Jim.

I have read the article on Serenity the real time mood management, and claims to help with stress and nervous disorders or if you need a positive outlook on life. Does this form of herbal help with aggraphobia and panick? of course i also suffer with all of the above and my main concern is stress levels at present which I feel brings on my panick especially when I am presented with my weekly shopping spree this sound marvelous but Im always unsure of some of the adverts across the web?
 
monaa last decade
Monaa,

"Serenity" is a trade name for a specific lithium orotate supplement with a patented enteric coating around the capsule. Some say the enteric coating helps assimilation and prevents stomach problems in certain sensitive individuals. It also makes the capsule a bit more expensive then just plain ol' lithium orotate. If you can get either Serenity or just the plain non-enteric coated lithium orotate, give it a try. Frankly, there is an ND named Dr. Jonathan Wright who is this maverick doc (very cutting edge in his approach to cancer and chronic illness) who practices in Tahoma, Washington. Has a website: www tahoma-clinic dot com and on that website you will see one or two articles he has penned on the Lithium—The Missing Mineral. He is VERY high on the stuff and believes that anybody should take it as it is missing in so many mineral panels he does of his patients. I've actually tried lithium orotate (5mg.) before bedtime to see if it helps sleep patterns. It did not discernably do anything for me in that department but it did level out mild anxiousness at one instance. But remember, I'm not a good candidate to tell you whether lithium orotate works or doesn't since I don't present with the symptoms it addresses. My patients who I have on it are happy with it. However, it's like I said, there seems to be a point where one needs more than just lithium orotate to support their depression/anxiety picture.
 
Jim Sheldon ND last decade
Hi Jim

Thanks for that I do some from IBS badly on a daily basis especially when I am due to go anywhere outside or on a short journey and have done for the past 20 years and it seems that since I started having panick attacks it has got worse. I was told to try Bowel essence drops from the herb shop as well as simple dia-calm on occourences I do understand that this is down to me being nervous all the time so maybe it would help in this particular area.
 
monaa last decade
Hello Everybody -

Today is day 6 of taking the seroctin. I must say that I am feeling much calmer. I've had a bit of a stressful weekend and I made it through. Yes, I was stressed and still am but I am not feeling as irrational as I normally would. Positive thinking I guess!

Has anyone else started taking it? Are you having the same affect?
 
naydies last decade
omega 3 fish oil tablets helped me alot in overcoming depression.
 
mustafa2480 last decade
Hi Naydies, sorry I have not yet recieved my order but I cant wait to give it a try! It should be sometime this week I hope and keep my fingers crossed but well done to you for getting over a very stressful weekend all on your own. I took some advise and purchased a Homeopathic remedy called Aconitum napellus and I love this I was really calm when I was out at the weekend in the Car which normally I would have had at least 1 panick attack. I jumped for joy when I got home.
 
monaa last decade
Naydies,

Glad to know the Seroctin is working for you. Do consider the Maratime Pine Plus pycnogenol as a booster for it if you can. The only difference between this product and regular pycnogenol is that it has the potentiating agent called Bioprene and two additional pine bark compounds that catalyze the anti-oxidant effect. Both my wife and I take the pycnogenol every day and are benefitting from it tremendously.

Once your moods are better stabilized, I encourage you to see if you can find a homeopathic remedy that will address the core issues. Again, I like Seroctin because it calms and creates a better more open emotional environment for the introduction of homeopathy. In the end, I do believe that homeopathy when PROPERLY advised and given, is the ultimate balancer of emotional problems. I've seen this work again and again.
 
Jim Sheldon ND last decade
jim...thank you so much for all of your insight on seroctin. i began taking it on friday (4 days ago) in hopes of relieving anxiety and depression.
i have noticed a vast improvement with sleep patterns. over the past month i have been waking at 2 a.m. each night..unable to fall back asleep. i have slept quite soundly over the past 3 nights.
my question is....should i be experiencing sleepiness? it seems that i become very sleepy midafternoon and early evenings...is this normal?
 
flowertea last decade
jim...thank you so much for all of your insight on seroctin. i began taking it on friday (4 days ago) in hopes of relieving anxiety and depression.
i have noticed a vast improvement with sleep patterns. over the past month i have been waking at 2 a.m. each night..unable to fall back asleep. i have slept quite soundly over the past 3 nights.
my question is....should i be experiencing sleepiness? it seems that i become very sleepy midafternoon and early evenings...is this normal?
 
flowertea last decade
Flowertea,

Glad to know Seroctin is helping to regulate sleep patterns. Waking at 2am on a regular basis signals that there is some imbalance with your liver (the liver detoxes from 1am to 3am). This can be anything from a hormone problem (since the helps metabolize hormones, among other things!) to simply a sluggish liver. There should not be any mid day or afternoon tiredness as a result of Seroctin. Just a calmer approach to life. How many capsules are you taking and when are you taking them?
 
Jim Sheldon ND last decade
i have taken 4 capsules in the morning and 4 in the evening....
 
flowertea last decade
I recommend people start with either three in the morning and three in the late afternoon or evening OR three in the morning and two in the late afternoon or evening. Experiment with one of these choices and see if the afternoon tiredness is resolved. I always suggest starting with a lesser dose than is recommended on the bottle and then work up if needed. The only caviat to this is using pcynogenol as it must be dosed based upon weight.
 
Jim Sheldon ND last decade
Jim,
I would like to find a homeopathic remedy that would work for me also. I guess I'll just wait, as you said, and then move forward. Again, thanks for bringing this to our attention. It seems that it is helping a couple of us so far. HOpefully more soon!

Monaa,
Glad to hear you made it through a car ride. So what is Aconitum napellus for exactly? I'm assuming this is homeopathic.

Well, i pray we all continue to move forward, up and out of this.
 
naydies last decade
Morning Naydies.

Aconitum napellus: is for the following:

A panic attack that comes on suddenly with very strong fear may indicate this remedy. A state of immense anxiety may be accompanied by strong palpitations, shortness of breath, and flushing of the face. Sometimes a shaking experience will be the underlying cause. Strong feelings of anxiety may also occur when a person is just beginning to come down with a flu or cold.

also there was a remedy called Gelsemium: which is for the following symptoms:

Feelings of weakness, trembling, and mental dullness (being “paralyzed by fear”) suggest a need for this remedy. It is often helpful when a person has stage-fright about a public performance or interview, or feels anxious before a test, a visit to the dentist, or any stressful event. Chills, perspiration, diarrhoea, and headaches will often occur with nervousness. Fear of crowds, a fear of falling, and even a fear that the heart might stop are other indications for Gelsemium.

The above 2 Homeopathic remedies are tiny small white tablets which you place under your tongue 3 tablets 3 times a day. It works for me.
 
monaa last decade
Hi everyone.

postman has just been and I have recieved my Seroctin, wow fast delivery so lets see from here how it goes?

I can't wait to give it a go!
 
monaa last decade

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