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Yes let's start again.
There were changes, but it does appear that they do not 'stick'. Something still hasn't been understood for my part.
This implies strongly that the miasm in the case is wrong. The miasm is the energy source for his disease, while it is running it will continue recreating problems.
Let me revisit the first strong of posts, and see what we can do.
There were changes, but it does appear that they do not 'stick'. Something still hasn't been understood for my part.
This implies strongly that the miasm in the case is wrong. The miasm is the energy source for his disease, while it is running it will continue recreating problems.
Let me revisit the first strong of posts, and see what we can do.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Ok I am good with that. Someone once told me that sycotic is too much or not enough and that would seem to describe him to a T, especially as a baby...he never had any skin symptoms at all. I don't know if that makes any difference. Let me find my initial intake and copy and paste it for you.
allicando last decade
Children's Questions:
1. What occured to the mother during pregnancy - new symptoms, illnesses, medical treatments, emotional stresses.
I have had a history of anxiety and depression and was on 80mg of Prozac during my first trimester with him, before I knew I was pregnant. My OB told me to stop it immediately and I did, which probably created withdrawal symptoms in me and more stress. Stopped around 11 weeks gestation. I think it probably had a negative effect on his nervous system. I was somewhat anxious about becoming a mother and felt a lack of 'maternal instinct' due to conflicts with my own mother growing up. I felt anxious and nervous. I also felt nervous that my husband would not step up to the plate as a dad. I argued a lot with my husband during that time due to stress within our marriage and worries about the pregnancy. After a blood test, I was told my baby had a high chance of having Down's Syndrome and I wanted to find our for sure (although we would have kept him either way). An ultrasound and amniocentesis proved he did not. I ended up having 4 ultrasounds in total with him. Our brother in law ended up moving into our very cramped house for about a month, which did add some stress.
2. What problems occured during the birth?
Very minimal - I studied up on natural birth and tried to do everything I could to insure a healthy baby. I was nervous about the birth but wanted to go natural and had a doula assist me. I had chiropractic work (the Webster method) to turn him from breech position to avoid a C-section. Very long labor (32 hours) with a lot of back pain, but not particularly traumatic for him (I don't think). I felt guilty that it was taking so long, like I was wasting everybody's time (my husband's, doula's) No epidural or other interventions or drugs used during labor. Doula and OB worked with me for a while to get him to position properly to help my dilation. He was born at 41 weeks and received a 9.9 out of 10 on the APGAR score. I refused all vaccinations.
1. What occured to the mother during pregnancy - new symptoms, illnesses, medical treatments, emotional stresses.
I have had a history of anxiety and depression and was on 80mg of Prozac during my first trimester with him, before I knew I was pregnant. My OB told me to stop it immediately and I did, which probably created withdrawal symptoms in me and more stress. Stopped around 11 weeks gestation. I think it probably had a negative effect on his nervous system. I was somewhat anxious about becoming a mother and felt a lack of 'maternal instinct' due to conflicts with my own mother growing up. I felt anxious and nervous. I also felt nervous that my husband would not step up to the plate as a dad. I argued a lot with my husband during that time due to stress within our marriage and worries about the pregnancy. After a blood test, I was told my baby had a high chance of having Down's Syndrome and I wanted to find our for sure (although we would have kept him either way). An ultrasound and amniocentesis proved he did not. I ended up having 4 ultrasounds in total with him. Our brother in law ended up moving into our very cramped house for about a month, which did add some stress.
2. What problems occured during the birth?
Very minimal - I studied up on natural birth and tried to do everything I could to insure a healthy baby. I was nervous about the birth but wanted to go natural and had a doula assist me. I had chiropractic work (the Webster method) to turn him from breech position to avoid a C-section. Very long labor (32 hours) with a lot of back pain, but not particularly traumatic for him (I don't think). I felt guilty that it was taking so long, like I was wasting everybody's time (my husband's, doula's) No epidural or other interventions or drugs used during labor. Doula and OB worked with me for a while to get him to position properly to help my dilation. He was born at 41 weeks and received a 9.9 out of 10 on the APGAR score. I refused all vaccinations.
allicando last decade
3. What was happening in the mother's life around the time of conception?
I was working a job I didn't much care for and viewed the pregnancy as sort of a way out. There was some stress at work, and our marriage relationship was somewhat distant. We seemed like simply roommates a lot of times, but there was a fair amount of arguing too. I felt lonely in my marriage. My son is an only child. We were not opposed to kids, but he was not planned at the time and we were both a little unprepared.
4. What illnesses did both parents have for the 5 years or so preceding conception?
About 5 years prior to becoming pregnant, I went through a period of anorexia, and then bulimia, during which I was in a hospital treatment program twice and recovered fully (after a few years). I had been taking many diet pills during that time. I also had tested as having borderline low thyroid functioning, and have had varying degrees of depression and/or anxiety for the majority of my life. I don't believe my husband went through much illness during that time but probably has a mild form of Asperger's.
I was working a job I didn't much care for and viewed the pregnancy as sort of a way out. There was some stress at work, and our marriage relationship was somewhat distant. We seemed like simply roommates a lot of times, but there was a fair amount of arguing too. I felt lonely in my marriage. My son is an only child. We were not opposed to kids, but he was not planned at the time and we were both a little unprepared.
4. What illnesses did both parents have for the 5 years or so preceding conception?
About 5 years prior to becoming pregnant, I went through a period of anorexia, and then bulimia, during which I was in a hospital treatment program twice and recovered fully (after a few years). I had been taking many diet pills during that time. I also had tested as having borderline low thyroid functioning, and have had varying degrees of depression and/or anxiety for the majority of my life. I don't believe my husband went through much illness during that time but probably has a mild form of Asperger's.
allicando last decade
5. Describe the following features of the child
a) Body type and build
Medium body build, was a huge baby, but leveled off, has grown taller and thinner since homeopath, in the 75th percentile for height. Used to have tendency for putting on weight with fatty foods but now seems normal for his age.
b) Skin colour and texture
Moderately fair skin (not extremely pale), texture is bumpy on the upper arms, and sometimes the cheeks.
c) Areas of the body tends to perspire on
Perspires around the hairline, groin and buttocks area, back of knees. Doesn't sweat very much though. Not a lot of sweat, mucus, never drooled as a baby...very little bodily fluids.
d) Odour of sweat, body, stool, flatus, urine
No unusual sweat or body odor, stool and flatus can be sulfurous-smelling at times. Never noticed urine to have a smell.
e) Colour of stool, urine, sweat
Stool is orange-ish brown, or dark brown when constipated. Urine ranges from dark yellow to almost clear, but is usually light yellow. Sweat is clear and doesn't seem unusual.
6. Give any reactions to vaccines or medical drugs.
No vaccinations were ever given, only reaction he has ever had was to Benadryl. When it was given once, it made him more hyper.
a) Body type and build
Medium body build, was a huge baby, but leveled off, has grown taller and thinner since homeopath, in the 75th percentile for height. Used to have tendency for putting on weight with fatty foods but now seems normal for his age.
b) Skin colour and texture
Moderately fair skin (not extremely pale), texture is bumpy on the upper arms, and sometimes the cheeks.
c) Areas of the body tends to perspire on
Perspires around the hairline, groin and buttocks area, back of knees. Doesn't sweat very much though. Not a lot of sweat, mucus, never drooled as a baby...very little bodily fluids.
d) Odour of sweat, body, stool, flatus, urine
No unusual sweat or body odor, stool and flatus can be sulfurous-smelling at times. Never noticed urine to have a smell.
e) Colour of stool, urine, sweat
Stool is orange-ish brown, or dark brown when constipated. Urine ranges from dark yellow to almost clear, but is usually light yellow. Sweat is clear and doesn't seem unusual.
6. Give any reactions to vaccines or medical drugs.
No vaccinations were ever given, only reaction he has ever had was to Benadryl. When it was given once, it made him more hyper.
allicando last decade
He would not sleep much beginning in the hospital and was very hard to console. Hooked around the room and nurses continually remarked that he seemed extremely alert. He had mild jaundice which resolved in a few days without intervention. He had great feeding difficulties after birth (extreme impatience, not latching on, fussing and screaming) and even after visiting 6 lactation consultants I was unable to successfully breastfeed which devastated me. I tried pumping for bottle feeding, but he screamed much more after bottles of breastmilk. Seemed very sensitive to most kinds of formula and had a tendency to become constipated.
He was an extremely fussy baby who had a great deal of trouble sleeping from birth (needed to be rocked in excess of 2 hours to sleep for 20 minute increments), and still has a lot of trouble falling asleep and frequent waking. (This has resolved a lot - now it usually takes him 5-10 minutes at night). He has a lot of night terrors as well, when he has trouble breathing from a cold they happen many times a night. He spent most of the time screaming, crying, and fussing - I could never accurately predict about what. I had very little sleep and a lot of resentment toward him sad to say, although I tried to keep it together and do the best I could for him and didn't want him to 'feel' it. He seemed to 'need' to be held close and rocked/jiggled constantly, but would initially arch away and fight it until he was jiggled for long enough. He was a very physically healthy baby and toddler, received no vaccinations, and has had one ear infection after a cold last winter (at almost 4). It kept recurring and he did have antibiotics with probiotics (his first antibiotics, and first 'medicine' in general aside from over the counter pain relievers). He met baby milestones such as babbling, rolling over, and crawling early, but was very cautious for any physical activity where he had to be standing or off the ground (such as swings, etc.). Also, not a lot of eye contact and minimal social response. Would cry and scream inconsolably if left with anyone other than Mommy and often cried when strangers would try to talk to him. Put things in his mouth till after 4 years old...still does occasionally (shirt collars absent-mindedly, etc.).
He suffered from a great deal of separation anxiety which seems to dwindled a lot. Argumentative and gets upset if he doesn't understand something or is frustrated with a difficult task. Gets angry when others do not play as he wishes and wants to control the situation. Acts shy and ignores others when they say hello to him and often frowns and then looks away. Used to say 'Do not talk to me'. Often seems like he does not know what to do with himself, has trouble starting play or other activities, and will wander around aimlessly, whine a lot, or run around in circles shrieking and laughing. Also jumps around a lot and has trouble staying still. Afraid of many sensory activities: very cautious on playground equipment and hates hair washing and teeth brushing (although these have gotten better). Says wearing coats and sweatshirts make him tired and hates wearing socks. Is very intelligent and can read well (self-taught). Physically clumsy and walks mostly on tip toes. Very verbal, but not always on topic, may not respond in a conversational manner and it is impossible for him to talk on the phone (has no idea what to say). Speech is choppy and words are put together in a strange manner. Sometimes gets hung up on what he feels is incorrect word usage from others. Used to have a great deal of echolalia until we took him off of dairy two years ago and it began to resolve.
He was an extremely fussy baby who had a great deal of trouble sleeping from birth (needed to be rocked in excess of 2 hours to sleep for 20 minute increments), and still has a lot of trouble falling asleep and frequent waking. (This has resolved a lot - now it usually takes him 5-10 minutes at night). He has a lot of night terrors as well, when he has trouble breathing from a cold they happen many times a night. He spent most of the time screaming, crying, and fussing - I could never accurately predict about what. I had very little sleep and a lot of resentment toward him sad to say, although I tried to keep it together and do the best I could for him and didn't want him to 'feel' it. He seemed to 'need' to be held close and rocked/jiggled constantly, but would initially arch away and fight it until he was jiggled for long enough. He was a very physically healthy baby and toddler, received no vaccinations, and has had one ear infection after a cold last winter (at almost 4). It kept recurring and he did have antibiotics with probiotics (his first antibiotics, and first 'medicine' in general aside from over the counter pain relievers). He met baby milestones such as babbling, rolling over, and crawling early, but was very cautious for any physical activity where he had to be standing or off the ground (such as swings, etc.). Also, not a lot of eye contact and minimal social response. Would cry and scream inconsolably if left with anyone other than Mommy and often cried when strangers would try to talk to him. Put things in his mouth till after 4 years old...still does occasionally (shirt collars absent-mindedly, etc.).
He suffered from a great deal of separation anxiety which seems to dwindled a lot. Argumentative and gets upset if he doesn't understand something or is frustrated with a difficult task. Gets angry when others do not play as he wishes and wants to control the situation. Acts shy and ignores others when they say hello to him and often frowns and then looks away. Used to say 'Do not talk to me'. Often seems like he does not know what to do with himself, has trouble starting play or other activities, and will wander around aimlessly, whine a lot, or run around in circles shrieking and laughing. Also jumps around a lot and has trouble staying still. Afraid of many sensory activities: very cautious on playground equipment and hates hair washing and teeth brushing (although these have gotten better). Says wearing coats and sweatshirts make him tired and hates wearing socks. Is very intelligent and can read well (self-taught). Physically clumsy and walks mostly on tip toes. Very verbal, but not always on topic, may not respond in a conversational manner and it is impossible for him to talk on the phone (has no idea what to say). Speech is choppy and words are put together in a strange manner. Sometimes gets hung up on what he feels is incorrect word usage from others. Used to have a great deal of echolalia until we took him off of dairy two years ago and it began to resolve.
allicando last decade
Can be very impatient and has great difficulty waiting. Seems impossible for him to wait his turn in speaking, he feels compelled to interrupt even though he knows he is not supposed to, for fears of 'losing his thoughts.' Some difficulty modulating voice. His is currently obsessed with numbers. He talks nonsense and makes lots of noises when he is bored, acting silly, or doesn't know what to do with himself. Always wants to 'show you something' or 'surprise you'. Gets mad if you see him doing something because he wants everything to be a surprise. Asks 'Why?' about everything and wants to know what time it is, how fast things go, how big things are, and anything to do with numbers.
He has not been sick often except for colds and an ongoing ear infection last winter. He regresses and gets very whiny an fussy and doesn't sleep much when he is sick. He has a tendency to become constipated, which has seemed to improve somewhat. He has had a slightly enlarged nodule on the right side of his neck since infancy which the pediatricians have always said was 'normal' because it does not hurt him and it moves around. He has a patch of white hair on the left side of the back of his head, near the nape of the neck.
He has a low threshold for frustration - will sometimes yell and scream at his shoes, pants, blocks, anything that is not cooperating with him. Seems to have a failed sense of competence, always says he 'can't' do things or asks for help on things and then lets others do them for him.
He has extreme reactions to minor pain, such as falling down, and will demand a 'kiss' for every tiny bump. Very reactionary to pain and minor upsets. (this has improved somewhat)
Has trouble remembering people's names and will often call close relatives by the wrong name. Has trouble recognizing people's faces and has told me that kids all look the same. (this has improved somewhat) Walks on toes, and walks in circles.
He has not been sick often except for colds and an ongoing ear infection last winter. He regresses and gets very whiny an fussy and doesn't sleep much when he is sick. He has a tendency to become constipated, which has seemed to improve somewhat. He has had a slightly enlarged nodule on the right side of his neck since infancy which the pediatricians have always said was 'normal' because it does not hurt him and it moves around. He has a patch of white hair on the left side of the back of his head, near the nape of the neck.
He has a low threshold for frustration - will sometimes yell and scream at his shoes, pants, blocks, anything that is not cooperating with him. Seems to have a failed sense of competence, always says he 'can't' do things or asks for help on things and then lets others do them for him.
He has extreme reactions to minor pain, such as falling down, and will demand a 'kiss' for every tiny bump. Very reactionary to pain and minor upsets. (this has improved somewhat)
Has trouble remembering people's names and will often call close relatives by the wrong name. Has trouble recognizing people's faces and has told me that kids all look the same. (this has improved somewhat) Walks on toes, and walks in circles.
allicando last decade
He breathes heavy and sounds congested when concentrating. He is scared of bugs flying around in the car or near him, and noises at night, also of the power going out. He sleeps with a sound machine and will wake up from a deep sleep and start screaming inconsolably in a panic if the sound machine stops, even for a moment. Restless in general, trouble staying still, except when watching a movie or reading a book. Cannot stay still at the table when eating, takes a bite then runs around. Takes a long time to fall asleep. Restless sleep, tossing and turning, wakes up at sporadic times screaming with sweating head and not lucid. May happen many times per night and be unpredictable. Worse when overtired, stressed, or in a hot room.
For much of his life, his dad was stressed with work, and or out of work and trying to start businesses. He was around, but worked 12-16 hour days and was and not 'present' for him. Much of the same continues today, and he often asks his dad to play with him and he says he can't and lets him know he is bugging him. He works long hours from home (in a common area of the home which is difficult) and has a hard time being interrupted or breaking away to spend time with him. There has been a lot of transition in his life. He was born in an old house and we lived there until my husband lost his job and we couldn't afford to do so anymore, a few months before he turned 3. We moved in with a friend of mine temporarily, who one day kicked us out with no warning and has not spoken to us since. We moved in with another guy my husband knew and lived there in one room for 5 months. Our financial status resulted in some friends dropping us. Last June we came to live with my mother across the country from where we were living, in the house where I grew up and that is where we are currently.
For much of his life, his dad was stressed with work, and or out of work and trying to start businesses. He was around, but worked 12-16 hour days and was and not 'present' for him. Much of the same continues today, and he often asks his dad to play with him and he says he can't and lets him know he is bugging him. He works long hours from home (in a common area of the home which is difficult) and has a hard time being interrupted or breaking away to spend time with him. There has been a lot of transition in his life. He was born in an old house and we lived there until my husband lost his job and we couldn't afford to do so anymore, a few months before he turned 3. We moved in with a friend of mine temporarily, who one day kicked us out with no warning and has not spoken to us since. We moved in with another guy my husband knew and lived there in one room for 5 months. Our financial status resulted in some friends dropping us. Last June we came to live with my mother across the country from where we were living, in the house where I grew up and that is where we are currently.
allicando last decade
He has a lot of difficulty reading social cues and doesn't seem to consider the feelings of others when he acts or speaks. He is very literal in his thinking, and cannot understand that others may have a different point of view. He has some difficulty with transitions, especially when not warned first. He is difficult to 'get through to', and often must be asked to do things 10 or more times before he complies (with much whining and arguing). Forgets simple instructions constantly, but can remember inconsequential things from years past. Direct eye contact is minimal unless it is on his terms. He has some rigid behavior patterns, and likes to control situations. A bit awkward in his motor skills. Not very self-motivated. Always chattering, asking many questions, and likes to talk about numbers and trains, but often won't answer direct questions if he is in the middle of a thought or if it is not something he wants to talk about. His paternal grandfather shows many signs of Asperger's, and his dad has many of the symptoms, although to a lesser degree than his grandfather. Many of the relatives on his dad's side of the family have very high IQ's but difficulty with social interaction. I have suffered on and off from depression and anxiety, and my father had both as well (he passed away in a car accident when I was 14). I most definitely suffer from seasonal affective disorder. Although my mother is not directly affected, her sister, my aunt, suffers from a lot of anxiety and there is depression and anxiety with my aunt and uncle on my father's side, as well as mental instability of some form with my paternal grandmother.
Used to complain of stomach pains and hand/ foot cramps after Saccharum, but these stopped with Cruprum.
I think this is all except for whatever questions you need to ask me.
Used to complain of stomach pains and hand/ foot cramps after Saccharum, but these stopped with Cruprum.
I think this is all except for whatever questions you need to ask me.
allicando last decade
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
After the cuprum he gets more frowning and more glaring when upset, and more rigid. That starts to wear off though.
He seems to be more hyper lately, more noises, more restless and out of control. He did this before, but it started to diminish and is now becoming more prominent. He still doesn't listen well but seems to genuinely feel sorry when he is being talked to about something (if not in one of his off the wall hyper moods).
No real NEW symptoms though.
[message edited by allicando on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 03:26:21 GMT]
He seems to be more hyper lately, more noises, more restless and out of control. He did this before, but it started to diminish and is now becoming more prominent. He still doesn't listen well but seems to genuinely feel sorry when he is being talked to about something (if not in one of his off the wall hyper moods).
No real NEW symptoms though.
[message edited by allicando on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 03:26:21 GMT]
allicando last decade
Things that are worsening are useful though.
How is he more hyper?
What noises?
Anything else that seems more prominent? Make sure you describe them in detail.
How is he more hyper?
What noises?
Anything else that seems more prominent? Make sure you describe them in detail.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Running around, jumping, rolling on the floor, climbing on the furniture and throwing the cushions around, stomping up and down the stairs...
Laughing a lot, kind of making lots of nonsense noises I can't really describe, almost like...groaning and maniacal noises...or like 'bleh bleh bleep bleep' 'blah blah blah' really loud and really horrible sounding repetitive noises nonstop. Sometimes he makes repetitive shrieking noises as well. He says he is just being silly and seems to do it in fun or be genuinely amused by it. When he is doing that, if he talks to us at all, it will be in a really weird voice, almost like a robot voice that he is trying to do on purpose.
He also puts his arms at a 90 degree angle and walks like a robot while making weird noises and moving his head back and forth. This is relatively new, and he does this when he is bored (a lot) or when he might not know what to do with himself. It seems to amuse him and he told me he was being a robot when I asked. He will make funny faces while he does this (think about a really suprised face with the mouth in an 'o').
I think that the full moon last week really affected him and increased his hyperactivity and stimming behaviors, but it was last Monday, and shouldn't be affecting him still.
I can't really think of anything else that seems more prominent...
[message edited by allicando on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 04:05:45 GMT]
Laughing a lot, kind of making lots of nonsense noises I can't really describe, almost like...groaning and maniacal noises...or like 'bleh bleh bleep bleep' 'blah blah blah' really loud and really horrible sounding repetitive noises nonstop. Sometimes he makes repetitive shrieking noises as well. He says he is just being silly and seems to do it in fun or be genuinely amused by it. When he is doing that, if he talks to us at all, it will be in a really weird voice, almost like a robot voice that he is trying to do on purpose.
He also puts his arms at a 90 degree angle and walks like a robot while making weird noises and moving his head back and forth. This is relatively new, and he does this when he is bored (a lot) or when he might not know what to do with himself. It seems to amuse him and he told me he was being a robot when I asked. He will make funny faces while he does this (think about a really suprised face with the mouth in an 'o').
I think that the full moon last week really affected him and increased his hyperactivity and stimming behaviors, but it was last Monday, and shouldn't be affecting him still.
I can't really think of anything else that seems more prominent...
[message edited by allicando on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 04:05:45 GMT]
allicando last decade
Oh I just realised that you deleted all the posts at the beginning of this thread. That will make moving on to another remedy difficult. I cannot see now why I gave the Cuprum, what I was looking at, or where I might have gone wrong. I cannot trace my own work at all now. Was there another remedy in there, was there a differential that I missed first time, what kingdom language did I miss or mistake for something else?
I need the case back. Or a new one that is just as detailed. I need to start from scratch.
I need the case back. Or a new one that is just as detailed. I need to start from scratch.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Ok, I can copy and paste all of my responses again. I apologize as I was being harassed online and felt uncomfortable with my information out there. I have the whole thread. Hang on a moment.
allicando last decade
moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-25Did you want me to take this on. I have successfully cured a couple of Asperger's cases, although there were all older boys. That of course doesn't mean I can definitely suggest a cure here, but I am familiar with the problem. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-25Yes Brisbane, that would be great. In full disclosure, it was probably about 6 months ago that you had recommended Apis for my son on this forum, which we tried. It was my first time using homeopathy for him, and he had a big aggravation which scared me and I ended up antidoting after about a week. I was scared to try this without someone having seen him in person so I made an appt with a local homeopath, and she was the first to prescribe the Saccharum for him, but now I am not sure if it is still doing what it should, and I really appreciate your recommended dosing methods after having done some reading. He has been recommended 4 different remedies, so I think it it probably best for someone skilled with Asperger's like yourself to take (or retake, as the case may be) the case. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-25Ok well I hadn't remembered that, but if he did have a huge aggravation that means that dosage needs to be handled very very carefully.
Let me look over it again, see what I can see. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-25Thank you Brisbane! It seems like no matter what remedy we have tried he does seem to be highly sensitive, not sure if that is a good thing or not. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-27I have been moving house, so I have fallen behind a little on these forum cases. Your sons's case is on the top of my list now. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-27Apart from the Apis, has anything else been prescribed for him homoeopathically?
It is an interesting case. Can you tell me anything else he says, no matter how irrational.
If that is too hard to do off the top of your head, keep a diary for a day, write down ANYTHING he says, it does not need to make sense.
It is a well presented case generally, but I am hoping to get a look at his internal state - the reality he perceives, rather than our perception of him living in ours.
What about art - does he draw anything?
Does he ever talk about what he sees in his dreams or nightmares? Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-27Oh I am looking for repeated phrases or words or images, not just everything he says. Themes. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-27Thanks Brisbane,
He has been prescribed Saccharum Officinale 200c which helped a lot but the dry dosing method was too much and too often so we switched to another practitioner who first prescribed Calc Phos 200c liquid, which aggravated horribly for several weeks with no discernible amelioration. Then he was prescribed Phosphorus 30c liquid which didn't seem to do anything, before being again prescribed Saccharum Officinale 30c liquid. Even though this is liquid, he does seem to aggravate for about 5 days on this, and it doesn't seem to be helping as much as it did the first time around in the 200c.
The other day he was talking about the fact that his preschool class would think he was a new kid in the class since he was wearing new shoes. (He wasn't bothered by this, just seems to believe that would be true - has told me all kids look alike and he has a hard time remembering them unless they always wear the same clothes. Also plays by himself in social situations and can never remember what he did that day or who was there.)
He reverses some words all the time, like, 'Switch up it' instead of 'switch it up' and frequently makes up words for things he forgets the name of. Sometimes when we are angry with him for something he will get extremely upset and have a meltdown, saying he 'doesn't understand why this is happening'. This has seemed to happen only since the Saccharum, before that, he didn't seem to react much to time-outs.
He has recently gotten into superheroes, especially Spider Man, and he will often run around the house repeating certain phrases like, 'Super power!' 'I am the strongest ever!' 'Get the bad guys!' 'Can't get me!' 'Have to hurry, can't stop!' 'To the rescue!', etc. He will also always say, 'I can show you' and take something out of someone's hands to show them how to do something. When he is asked to do something he doesn't want to (which he usually doesn't), he will say, 'But, but...' and then tell me what he is doing instead. He will argue about it forever, doesn't seem to think that he needs to listen to me. He likes to run around in circles pretending he is a train or an airplane and making those noises, it is very hard to distract him from this. When he is having a more lucid day, he might put his arm around me and say 'You are the best mom, ever.', or 'I made you this because I love you'. :) I will add more as I observe, think of them.
He really likes to draw lately...for a while it used to just be just trains but now he has been asking us what we like and drawing flowers and houses and people. He like to explain his drawings in detail even if they are really obvious, and sometimes he labels things phonetically. He has a habit of forgetting to draw arms on his people. He has been making up games lately, like find the one that is different, and fill in the blank games for us to play, he is very creative when it comes to making up pen and paper games for us, but very rigid about the rules and will yell, 'No!' and take away the pen to show us if we are not doing it exactly as he had in mind.
Let me look over it again, see what I can see. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-25Thank you Brisbane! It seems like no matter what remedy we have tried he does seem to be highly sensitive, not sure if that is a good thing or not. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-27I have been moving house, so I have fallen behind a little on these forum cases. Your sons's case is on the top of my list now. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-27Apart from the Apis, has anything else been prescribed for him homoeopathically?
It is an interesting case. Can you tell me anything else he says, no matter how irrational.
If that is too hard to do off the top of your head, keep a diary for a day, write down ANYTHING he says, it does not need to make sense.
It is a well presented case generally, but I am hoping to get a look at his internal state - the reality he perceives, rather than our perception of him living in ours.
What about art - does he draw anything?
Does he ever talk about what he sees in his dreams or nightmares? Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-27Oh I am looking for repeated phrases or words or images, not just everything he says. Themes. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-27Thanks Brisbane,
He has been prescribed Saccharum Officinale 200c which helped a lot but the dry dosing method was too much and too often so we switched to another practitioner who first prescribed Calc Phos 200c liquid, which aggravated horribly for several weeks with no discernible amelioration. Then he was prescribed Phosphorus 30c liquid which didn't seem to do anything, before being again prescribed Saccharum Officinale 30c liquid. Even though this is liquid, he does seem to aggravate for about 5 days on this, and it doesn't seem to be helping as much as it did the first time around in the 200c.
The other day he was talking about the fact that his preschool class would think he was a new kid in the class since he was wearing new shoes. (He wasn't bothered by this, just seems to believe that would be true - has told me all kids look alike and he has a hard time remembering them unless they always wear the same clothes. Also plays by himself in social situations and can never remember what he did that day or who was there.)
He reverses some words all the time, like, 'Switch up it' instead of 'switch it up' and frequently makes up words for things he forgets the name of. Sometimes when we are angry with him for something he will get extremely upset and have a meltdown, saying he 'doesn't understand why this is happening'. This has seemed to happen only since the Saccharum, before that, he didn't seem to react much to time-outs.
He has recently gotten into superheroes, especially Spider Man, and he will often run around the house repeating certain phrases like, 'Super power!' 'I am the strongest ever!' 'Get the bad guys!' 'Can't get me!' 'Have to hurry, can't stop!' 'To the rescue!', etc. He will also always say, 'I can show you' and take something out of someone's hands to show them how to do something. When he is asked to do something he doesn't want to (which he usually doesn't), he will say, 'But, but...' and then tell me what he is doing instead. He will argue about it forever, doesn't seem to think that he needs to listen to me. He likes to run around in circles pretending he is a train or an airplane and making those noises, it is very hard to distract him from this. When he is having a more lucid day, he might put his arm around me and say 'You are the best mom, ever.', or 'I made you this because I love you'. :) I will add more as I observe, think of them.
He really likes to draw lately...for a while it used to just be just trains but now he has been asking us what we like and drawing flowers and houses and people. He like to explain his drawings in detail even if they are really obvious, and sometimes he labels things phonetically. He has a habit of forgetting to draw arms on his people. He has been making up games lately, like find the one that is different, and fill in the blank games for us to play, he is very creative when it comes to making up pen and paper games for us, but very rigid about the rules and will yell, 'No!' and take away the pen to show us if we are not doing it exactly as he had in mind.
allicando last decade
He doesn't really tell us about his dreams, but he yells in his sleep a lot, mostly, 'No, no no! I don't want to!' or some variation of that...one time he was yelling about some trucks driving too fast.
ETA: Good luck with your move!
[message edited by allicando on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:37:37 BST] Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-28OK that is great. Actually there is something else here that might help - can you tell me what he says when he explains his drawings in detail. Again if you can't remember exactly write it down as he says it.
One of the activities I get children to do in clinic, is to draw while I am talking to the parents, then I have the child explain everything they have drawn - I point to each bit and say 'what is this' and write down every thing they say especially when it is surprising (like they point to a flower and say that is a monster). Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-28He is very detailed about it, like, 'This line here is the sky, these lines are the blades of grass, this is the house, this is the window, this is the garage...' etc. He HAS to explain it all to me. He doesn't really say things are different than they are, although he may use or make up a different word if he can't remember the correct one. But not purposely calling things by different names.
I forgot to mention, the first time we gave the Saccharum in 30c liquid he ended up getting a fever that went up to 103.8 3 days later, I was told this was positive since he had never had a fever that high ever and usually doesn't get them. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-28So he just sticks to the facts - no imaginary connections for him? Intersting - that actually suggests his potency level may be 30c.
High fever is only a good sign if it is followed by marked improvement. Did that happen? Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-28Oh can I get you to do something - can you point to a picture where people have no arms, and ask him about that - not why, just say 'what's this' or 'where are the arms' - try a few questions if it doesn't upset him too much.
What do people look like to you when he draws them that way (apart from people with no arms lol).
I want to be really careful with him considering what has happened before, and I want to be as confident as possible when making a choice of remedy. It is a *really* interesting case though. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-28It is hard to tell...he still seemed to aggravate slightly for around 5 days and did seem to improve somewhat...I actually didn't dose him again for almost another 2 weeks. Every time I thought he was for sure regressing, I waited another day just to be sure and he seemed to level out. But not HUGE improvements like we initally noticed with the 200c (although that was concurrent with some aggravation of other symptoms like clinginess and mouthing things as well).
He doesn't really seem to imagine much, he can't tell a story (that I have heard), unless he is repeated it, and yes, he is very fact-oriented. He can read already (taught himself from a kid's website) and prefers factual books that he will read out loud to me and later tell me about the facts he has read.
When he gets mad, he scowls and yells, 'No!' or 'I WILL NOT do that!' etc. This is usually in a sudden situation where he feels anxious or off-balance. If we ask him to do something he doesn't want to do, he usually just ignores us (intentionally or not, it is hard to tell) and runs around doing other things, or tries to make a case by telling us why he can't. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-28On more thing - is it just children he cannot recognize, or adults as well?
How is he at recognizing animals?
Does he ever talk about faces? What does he describe about them? Doe he draw them? Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-28Yes his potency level is definitely around 12-30c. I think that whatever remedy I decide on, we will stick to that level. As his ability to express himself expands, we may need to go up in potency. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-28I have pointed out to him before that the people he has drawn have no arms, and he either laughs or says 'oh' or 'oops' and draws the arms on. It usually doesn't upset him. But in general asking him about a picture of people or talking about people (like asking him about kids in his class) DOES sort of upset him depending on his mood, this morning he just said,
'Let's not talk about that, let's talk about something else.'
The people he draws otherwise look like people to me (and he doesn't always forget the arms now that I have reminded him a bunch of times, he just tends to). The boys have square bodies with stick legs and arms and a neck and round face with eyes, nose, and a smile. The girls look the same except have triangle bodies like they are wearing a dress. He usually only draws his Daddy and I or his Grandma who we live with (even though I almost never wear skirts ;) He once drew our whole family including the dog and left himself out of it. When I asked him he just said he drew the picture for us and ran out of room to put himself in it. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-28Yes, he draws faces on his people, usually just the typical eyes, nose and mouth. He doesn't usually talk about faces, although he will occasionally ask one of us why we made a certain face or why a drawing in a book is making that face.
I think he is probably similar with adult faces, be he does tend to attach himself to adults more readily and he knows those he is comfortable with, like his teacher.
Not sure about animals, he seems more comfortable with animals, not sure he recognizes what dog is who when he sees them walking or anything, but he knows our dog and cat and can tell different types of animals and other dogs that are the same kind as our dog. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-28It is interesting that you think he might need 12-30c. I have never heard of those potentcies being used in a chronic case. I am curious as to what reason you think we should start there?
And yes, he is pretty complex, I imagine he is difficult to prescribe for...I have never met a single kid like him...even without the ASD symptoms..lol! Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-28I should probably add that since a young age, one of the things he does the isn't really typical of ASD is say things like, 'You hurt my feelings' 'That is making me sad' - these are only when told no...or 'I am REALLY angry right now'. He seems to verbally be able to express his emotions to a degree, but he is in no way able to control them or self-soothe. And he can't really read them in others unless someone is crying and he won't notice if someone is really crying unless it is someone he is close to like me. (The Saccharum did help in emotional expression though).
Also not sure if I mentioned it, but he has had finger and toe cramps lately (for past several months but more often in last couple weeks), could be growing pains or some sort of mineral deficiency... Sometimes it wakes him up.
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[message edited by allicando on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 03:50:17 BST] Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-28Potency is more appropriately chosen because of how the disease is expressed in the patient. Whenever you question a patient, they will naturally come back a particular expression point, a way of describing their symptoms that is consistent throughout the case taking.
Under 12c is used when the disease is expressed as common pathology, broad general symptoms that are common to the disease itself or to diseases in general. Such a patient will just talk about the pathology they have, giving nothing but common expected symptoms. They will not be able to give you many sensations, and will remain entirely at a level where the disease itself lies (only talking about the location affected, talking about doctors reports, talking about popular opinions about the disease etc).
12-30c is used when the patient expresses their state in terms of facts - little emotional expression and little imagination. They tell their story with hardly any embellishment. They relate a story that tends to stick pretty much to what happens, in a particular order.
At 12c the person may have trouble describing any sensations they have or even giving much in terms of distinguishing features of their symptoms. They may just give names like 'headache' 'gut pain' 'cramps' and so on.
At 30c they may describe their symptoms more easily, may be able to tell you that their head pain is worse for movement or is better when the sun sets, but they still stick to the facts and go no deeper.
200c is used when the patient expresses their disease in terms of sensitivity, feelings, emotions. Everything comes back to how they feel about the problem, the events in their life. They are very in tune with what they are feeling, they freely associate everything in their life with emotional responses. 'I am moved to tears when...' 'My anger rises...' 'I get so upset when...' 'All I feel is great sadness....'.
1M is used when the patient expresses their disease at the level of imagination. They relate their problems with imaginary stories, analogies, parables. They tend to describe their symptoms in terms of fantasy situations 'as if someone is chasing me' 'as if I am going to be stabbed in the back' 'like God has a grudge against me and is punishing me'. They clearly express a 'delusional' state in which they exist on a daily basis.
10M is used when the patient clearly expresses the Sensation in the case - they speak in the language of the Kingdom, the Group and the direct Source of their remedy. There is often a lot of gestures, lots of strange language that is does not have a direct connection to their problem. The patient is expressing the qualities of the substance from which their remedy is made. 'My head feels like it is made of a green wavy film' 'I jump at him with speed and spear him through the chest with my words' ' I feel like I am losing bits of myself and they are being snatched up by passers by'. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-28Alright I have spent quite a bit of time going over this. I believe that the remedy we should consider first is Cuprum metallicum.
ETA: Good luck with your move!
[message edited by allicando on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:37:37 BST] Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-28OK that is great. Actually there is something else here that might help - can you tell me what he says when he explains his drawings in detail. Again if you can't remember exactly write it down as he says it.
One of the activities I get children to do in clinic, is to draw while I am talking to the parents, then I have the child explain everything they have drawn - I point to each bit and say 'what is this' and write down every thing they say especially when it is surprising (like they point to a flower and say that is a monster). Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-28He is very detailed about it, like, 'This line here is the sky, these lines are the blades of grass, this is the house, this is the window, this is the garage...' etc. He HAS to explain it all to me. He doesn't really say things are different than they are, although he may use or make up a different word if he can't remember the correct one. But not purposely calling things by different names.
I forgot to mention, the first time we gave the Saccharum in 30c liquid he ended up getting a fever that went up to 103.8 3 days later, I was told this was positive since he had never had a fever that high ever and usually doesn't get them. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-28So he just sticks to the facts - no imaginary connections for him? Intersting - that actually suggests his potency level may be 30c.
High fever is only a good sign if it is followed by marked improvement. Did that happen? Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-28Oh can I get you to do something - can you point to a picture where people have no arms, and ask him about that - not why, just say 'what's this' or 'where are the arms' - try a few questions if it doesn't upset him too much.
What do people look like to you when he draws them that way (apart from people with no arms lol).
I want to be really careful with him considering what has happened before, and I want to be as confident as possible when making a choice of remedy. It is a *really* interesting case though. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-28It is hard to tell...he still seemed to aggravate slightly for around 5 days and did seem to improve somewhat...I actually didn't dose him again for almost another 2 weeks. Every time I thought he was for sure regressing, I waited another day just to be sure and he seemed to level out. But not HUGE improvements like we initally noticed with the 200c (although that was concurrent with some aggravation of other symptoms like clinginess and mouthing things as well).
He doesn't really seem to imagine much, he can't tell a story (that I have heard), unless he is repeated it, and yes, he is very fact-oriented. He can read already (taught himself from a kid's website) and prefers factual books that he will read out loud to me and later tell me about the facts he has read.
When he gets mad, he scowls and yells, 'No!' or 'I WILL NOT do that!' etc. This is usually in a sudden situation where he feels anxious or off-balance. If we ask him to do something he doesn't want to do, he usually just ignores us (intentionally or not, it is hard to tell) and runs around doing other things, or tries to make a case by telling us why he can't. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-28On more thing - is it just children he cannot recognize, or adults as well?
How is he at recognizing animals?
Does he ever talk about faces? What does he describe about them? Doe he draw them? Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-28Yes his potency level is definitely around 12-30c. I think that whatever remedy I decide on, we will stick to that level. As his ability to express himself expands, we may need to go up in potency. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-28I have pointed out to him before that the people he has drawn have no arms, and he either laughs or says 'oh' or 'oops' and draws the arms on. It usually doesn't upset him. But in general asking him about a picture of people or talking about people (like asking him about kids in his class) DOES sort of upset him depending on his mood, this morning he just said,
'Let's not talk about that, let's talk about something else.'
The people he draws otherwise look like people to me (and he doesn't always forget the arms now that I have reminded him a bunch of times, he just tends to). The boys have square bodies with stick legs and arms and a neck and round face with eyes, nose, and a smile. The girls look the same except have triangle bodies like they are wearing a dress. He usually only draws his Daddy and I or his Grandma who we live with (even though I almost never wear skirts ;) He once drew our whole family including the dog and left himself out of it. When I asked him he just said he drew the picture for us and ran out of room to put himself in it. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-28Yes, he draws faces on his people, usually just the typical eyes, nose and mouth. He doesn't usually talk about faces, although he will occasionally ask one of us why we made a certain face or why a drawing in a book is making that face.
I think he is probably similar with adult faces, be he does tend to attach himself to adults more readily and he knows those he is comfortable with, like his teacher.
Not sure about animals, he seems more comfortable with animals, not sure he recognizes what dog is who when he sees them walking or anything, but he knows our dog and cat and can tell different types of animals and other dogs that are the same kind as our dog. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-28It is interesting that you think he might need 12-30c. I have never heard of those potentcies being used in a chronic case. I am curious as to what reason you think we should start there?
And yes, he is pretty complex, I imagine he is difficult to prescribe for...I have never met a single kid like him...even without the ASD symptoms..lol! Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-28I should probably add that since a young age, one of the things he does the isn't really typical of ASD is say things like, 'You hurt my feelings' 'That is making me sad' - these are only when told no...or 'I am REALLY angry right now'. He seems to verbally be able to express his emotions to a degree, but he is in no way able to control them or self-soothe. And he can't really read them in others unless someone is crying and he won't notice if someone is really crying unless it is someone he is close to like me. (The Saccharum did help in emotional expression though).
Also not sure if I mentioned it, but he has had finger and toe cramps lately (for past several months but more often in last couple weeks), could be growing pains or some sort of mineral deficiency... Sometimes it wakes him up.
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[message edited by allicando on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 03:50:17 BST] Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-28Potency is more appropriately chosen because of how the disease is expressed in the patient. Whenever you question a patient, they will naturally come back a particular expression point, a way of describing their symptoms that is consistent throughout the case taking.
Under 12c is used when the disease is expressed as common pathology, broad general symptoms that are common to the disease itself or to diseases in general. Such a patient will just talk about the pathology they have, giving nothing but common expected symptoms. They will not be able to give you many sensations, and will remain entirely at a level where the disease itself lies (only talking about the location affected, talking about doctors reports, talking about popular opinions about the disease etc).
12-30c is used when the patient expresses their state in terms of facts - little emotional expression and little imagination. They tell their story with hardly any embellishment. They relate a story that tends to stick pretty much to what happens, in a particular order.
At 12c the person may have trouble describing any sensations they have or even giving much in terms of distinguishing features of their symptoms. They may just give names like 'headache' 'gut pain' 'cramps' and so on.
At 30c they may describe their symptoms more easily, may be able to tell you that their head pain is worse for movement or is better when the sun sets, but they still stick to the facts and go no deeper.
200c is used when the patient expresses their disease in terms of sensitivity, feelings, emotions. Everything comes back to how they feel about the problem, the events in their life. They are very in tune with what they are feeling, they freely associate everything in their life with emotional responses. 'I am moved to tears when...' 'My anger rises...' 'I get so upset when...' 'All I feel is great sadness....'.
1M is used when the patient expresses their disease at the level of imagination. They relate their problems with imaginary stories, analogies, parables. They tend to describe their symptoms in terms of fantasy situations 'as if someone is chasing me' 'as if I am going to be stabbed in the back' 'like God has a grudge against me and is punishing me'. They clearly express a 'delusional' state in which they exist on a daily basis.
10M is used when the patient clearly expresses the Sensation in the case - they speak in the language of the Kingdom, the Group and the direct Source of their remedy. There is often a lot of gestures, lots of strange language that is does not have a direct connection to their problem. The patient is expressing the qualities of the substance from which their remedy is made. 'My head feels like it is made of a green wavy film' 'I jump at him with speed and spear him through the chest with my words' ' I feel like I am losing bits of myself and they are being snatched up by passers by'. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-28Alright I have spent quite a bit of time going over this. I believe that the remedy we should consider first is Cuprum metallicum.
allicando last decade
There are a lot of symptoms in this remedy that are reflected in your son's behaviour.
Probably the main thing that lead me to it was the rigid, controlling, almost ritualistic behaviour. There is a strong need to control everything in Cuprum, and paradoxically a complete lack of control in themselves. Their feelings come out in spasms, just as they experience cramps and spasms in their bodies. Uncontrollable anger is a well known problem for Cuprum children.
These are relevent symptoms taken out of our repertories. I have marked the ones I think are particularly intersting when considering your son's behaviour
Anger, temper tantrums
Answer, aversion to answering questions
Answers incoherently
Antics, plays
Anxiety when alone
Anxiety in bed, in spasms, after fright
*Aversion to change*
Cautious
Censorious and Critical
Compulsive disorders
Concentration difficult
Conscientious about trifles
Consolation aggravates
Contradict, disposition to
Contrary
Dictatorial, talks with an air of command
Discouraged easily
Fanaticism
*Fear, must tread lightly or he will injure himself*
Fear of accidents
Foolish behaviour in children
Haughty
Hurry, haste, general; while eating
Impulsive
Insolence
Kicks, when carried becomes stiff
Laughing hysterical;immoderately
Loquacity; when excited
Mildness alternating with obstinacy
*Mistakes, makes, talking using wrong words*
Monomania
Obstinate and headstrong, alternating with mildness
Offended easily
Passionate
Quarrelsome
Rage with shrieking
Restlessness, tossing about in bed
Restlessness driving him from place to place
*Restlessness must move constantly*
*Rigidity*
Runs about
Sensitive, oversensitive to pain
Shrieking, screaming, shouting; in children
Talks, wandering
Thoughts vanishing, loss of
Thoughts wandering
Weeping tearful mood after slight emotions
Weeping aloud
Impatient
Clumsy
Stammering
*Talks in too loud, inappropriately*
My suggestion would be Cuprum metallicum 30c. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-28Wow interesting, thank you! My first thought would have been it sounds harsher than he is because he is not violent in nature, but I just came back from a teacher's conference and the teacher was very concerned about his ridigity, aversion to change, anxiety, and argumentativeness. I wonder if these children are also whiny. I will order it and then how should I prepare it?
Also, should I be concerned in case he already has too much copper? I don't know if he does, but knowing my background and all it is a distinct possibility. This may be helpful to him in that case though, I don't know. Thanks!
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[message edited by allicando on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 19:37:30 BST] Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-28The violence comes out more in his emotional reactions, his screaming, his tantrums - violence doesn't have to be violence to others, but a powerful excessive reaction of any type.
Dissolve 2 pillules into a small bottle with 5 parts water and 1 part alcohol in it. You can use medicinal alcohol or brandy or vodka. Make sure the bottle has a dropper.
Hit the bottle firmly twice against the palm of the hand. Place 1 drop into a full cup of water, stir thoroughly, and give him 1 teaspoon.
Do this once only to begin with while we assess his response.
Probably the main thing that lead me to it was the rigid, controlling, almost ritualistic behaviour. There is a strong need to control everything in Cuprum, and paradoxically a complete lack of control in themselves. Their feelings come out in spasms, just as they experience cramps and spasms in their bodies. Uncontrollable anger is a well known problem for Cuprum children.
These are relevent symptoms taken out of our repertories. I have marked the ones I think are particularly intersting when considering your son's behaviour
Anger, temper tantrums
Answer, aversion to answering questions
Answers incoherently
Antics, plays
Anxiety when alone
Anxiety in bed, in spasms, after fright
*Aversion to change*
Cautious
Censorious and Critical
Compulsive disorders
Concentration difficult
Conscientious about trifles
Consolation aggravates
Contradict, disposition to
Contrary
Dictatorial, talks with an air of command
Discouraged easily
Fanaticism
*Fear, must tread lightly or he will injure himself*
Fear of accidents
Foolish behaviour in children
Haughty
Hurry, haste, general; while eating
Impulsive
Insolence
Kicks, when carried becomes stiff
Laughing hysterical;immoderately
Loquacity; when excited
Mildness alternating with obstinacy
*Mistakes, makes, talking using wrong words*
Monomania
Obstinate and headstrong, alternating with mildness
Offended easily
Passionate
Quarrelsome
Rage with shrieking
Restlessness, tossing about in bed
Restlessness driving him from place to place
*Restlessness must move constantly*
*Rigidity*
Runs about
Sensitive, oversensitive to pain
Shrieking, screaming, shouting; in children
Talks, wandering
Thoughts vanishing, loss of
Thoughts wandering
Weeping tearful mood after slight emotions
Weeping aloud
Impatient
Clumsy
Stammering
*Talks in too loud, inappropriately*
My suggestion would be Cuprum metallicum 30c. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-28Wow interesting, thank you! My first thought would have been it sounds harsher than he is because he is not violent in nature, but I just came back from a teacher's conference and the teacher was very concerned about his ridigity, aversion to change, anxiety, and argumentativeness. I wonder if these children are also whiny. I will order it and then how should I prepare it?
Also, should I be concerned in case he already has too much copper? I don't know if he does, but knowing my background and all it is a distinct possibility. This may be helpful to him in that case though, I don't know. Thanks!
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[message edited by allicando on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 19:37:30 BST] Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-28The violence comes out more in his emotional reactions, his screaming, his tantrums - violence doesn't have to be violence to others, but a powerful excessive reaction of any type.
Dissolve 2 pillules into a small bottle with 5 parts water and 1 part alcohol in it. You can use medicinal alcohol or brandy or vodka. Make sure the bottle has a dropper.
Hit the bottle firmly twice against the palm of the hand. Place 1 drop into a full cup of water, stir thoroughly, and give him 1 teaspoon.
Do this once only to begin with while we assess his response.
allicando last decade
Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-28The violence comes out more in his emotional reactions, his screaming, his tantrums - violence doesn't have to be violence to others, but a powerful excessive reaction of any type.
Dissolve 2 pillules into a small bottle with 5 parts water and 1 part alcohol in it. You can use medicinal alcohol or brandy or vodka. Make sure the bottle has a dropper.
Hit the bottle firmly twice against the palm of the hand. Place 1 drop into a full cup of water, stir thoroughly, and give him 1 teaspoon.
Do this once only to begin with while we assess his response. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-28Ok thank you! I will let you know when I have it in and give it to him.
I was told before to give him Saccharum 6c daily even when prescribed a different constitutional, as this would help with gut issues? Is this true and would this counteract the constitutional? (I know it doesn't hurt him but didn't know if this was good advice or not...a homeopath told us this a while ago and I have it on hand - I have heard of another ASD mom being told this same thing.) Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-28It is not advisable to use two or more remedies at once. He cannot be both Sacchrum and Cuprum - so one must be wrong. A wrong remedy will produce side effects eventually, and that will confuse what the correct remedy is doing.
That advice is not in keeping with homoeopathic philosophy, so I would avoid doing it. The simillimum will cure all complaints, and does not need extra remedies to 'help it along'. That only happens when someone cannot find the best remedy, and is stuck using what we call 'partial similars'.
If something does not cure, then a better remedy needs to be found, rather than resorting to going against our guidelines (in my opinion anyway).
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 23:12:25 BST] Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-29Ok, makes sense. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-10-10Ok the remedy finally arrived today. My son had a fever last night that reached 102.2 (he has never gotten fevers before homeopathy so I think this is a good sign), and now he has a bit of a cold with stuffy nose. I'm not sure if I should dose him now or wait until he is over the cold.
Btw, thank you for your help in my other thread. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-10-11Fevers are a good sign if rare, not if common.
Just give him a dose now. It will either help or do nothing. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-10-11Ok, thanks - I will do so and let you know what happens over the next couple days.
He has had 3 fevers since we started homeopathy in April...two were after dosing, and this one, which was not, so...I don't think they are very common. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-10-12As I stated in my other thread, I gave the remedy last night and today he has seemed to react very positively to it, with no aggravation that I can see! He was more interactive today and responsive - no screaming from pains, and generally cheerful! Good so far!
Dissolve 2 pillules into a small bottle with 5 parts water and 1 part alcohol in it. You can use medicinal alcohol or brandy or vodka. Make sure the bottle has a dropper.
Hit the bottle firmly twice against the palm of the hand. Place 1 drop into a full cup of water, stir thoroughly, and give him 1 teaspoon.
Do this once only to begin with while we assess his response. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-28Ok thank you! I will let you know when I have it in and give it to him.
I was told before to give him Saccharum 6c daily even when prescribed a different constitutional, as this would help with gut issues? Is this true and would this counteract the constitutional? (I know it doesn't hurt him but didn't know if this was good advice or not...a homeopath told us this a while ago and I have it on hand - I have heard of another ASD mom being told this same thing.) Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-09-28It is not advisable to use two or more remedies at once. He cannot be both Sacchrum and Cuprum - so one must be wrong. A wrong remedy will produce side effects eventually, and that will confuse what the correct remedy is doing.
That advice is not in keeping with homoeopathic philosophy, so I would avoid doing it. The simillimum will cure all complaints, and does not need extra remedies to 'help it along'. That only happens when someone cannot find the best remedy, and is stuck using what we call 'partial similars'.
If something does not cure, then a better remedy needs to be found, rather than resorting to going against our guidelines (in my opinion anyway).
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 23:12:25 BST] Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-09-29Ok, makes sense. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-10-10Ok the remedy finally arrived today. My son had a fever last night that reached 102.2 (he has never gotten fevers before homeopathy so I think this is a good sign), and now he has a bit of a cold with stuffy nose. I'm not sure if I should dose him now or wait until he is over the cold.
Btw, thank you for your help in my other thread. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-10-11Fevers are a good sign if rare, not if common.
Just give him a dose now. It will either help or do nothing. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-10-11Ok, thanks - I will do so and let you know what happens over the next couple days.
He has had 3 fevers since we started homeopathy in April...two were after dosing, and this one, which was not, so...I don't think they are very common. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-10-12As I stated in my other thread, I gave the remedy last night and today he has seemed to react very positively to it, with no aggravation that I can see! He was more interactive today and responsive - no screaming from pains, and generally cheerful! Good so far!
allicando last decade
I think it will also help tremendously for me to be on a good remedy...for both of us! I very much appreciate the time you have taken so far to prescribe for our complicated cases! :) Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-10-12I hope that I have understood yours correctly. But rest assured I will keep working with you to find a solution, as much as this medium allows. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-10-12I appreciate that!! Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-10-15Ok, I think that over the last few days he has been more interactive, asking us more questions about US instead of just about things he wants to know about...more engaged...less screaming and no muscle cramping...less OCD and rigidity!
However, his hyperactivity has been through the roof and his teachers have talked to me about it several times this week saying it is not like him. I really rather think it is a side effect of the oral vitamin methyl B12 we started giving him last week, and I am going to start giving less and see how that goes. He has also been stimming more (most of his stims are hyperactivity, like running around in circles, jumping, making noises, etc), but his teacher said he's been doing it with his hands too. I think this is also a sign of the B12, since I have never seen him do this during an aggravation (or the hand thing ever, really.)
Mood has been much better and overall our interactions have been much more positive. He still wakes early but has not had a night terror since I gave him the remedy! Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-10-15Starting to not be quite as reponsive...not looking at you as much when you speak to him and instead more looking down and being distracted by things...like a toy, the buttons on a shirt, etc. Also slightly more likely to say, 'No, no!' and interrupt or correct you, or frown about something. It's not a dramatic backslide, but enough to wonder if we're getting towards the time I should redose again. I am wondering if the WHOLE symptom picture has to come back comepletely, or I can just see the downward trend before I need to redose. This part has always confused me. If I know he is regressing, but hasn't completely hit the 'bottom' yet, if you will, can I redose him then or do I have to wait? And when redosing how should I change it? Thanks! Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-10-16Repeat the remedy, once only. Relapse does not have to be complete to redose, and in fact is of no benefit to the patient to wait that long. It just has to be marked and persistent.
No change to the redose as yet, just give him one more dose and let's see what the response is.
You should probably get hold of 200c as well. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-10-16Ok, thanks for that...in the past I have always waited a long time to make sure (sometimes a week too long) because I have not wanted to hurt any progress.
I will order the 200c in the meantime.
Do you want me to again hit it against my palm twice before I put some in the cup? Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-10-17The sucussions (hits) are the most important step, almost more than anything else you do. Keept it at 2 for the time being. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-10-17Will do - thank you! Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-10-19He definitely still has less rigidity but he gets mad if you try to interrupt him when he is talking and starts to yell.
Still getting up pretty early (like around 6:00 or so) but waking much less from cramps (not any since the redose).
He is talking nonstop and still a little hyper. Again he didn't seem to aggravate though. He is not too social with strangers and even people he knows and will often ignore or look away if someone tries to talk to him still. (Unless it is his teacher or his dad or me). Eye contact is still sporadic but not terrible. He gets very distracted by details of things when he is talking and will fiddle with things or look at other things when he is answering someone. Wants to talk when he wants to talk but doesn't like to have to answer.
Not sure how he has been socially in his class at school, but I am volunteering for a field trip tomorrow so I might get a better idea then.
This is all I can think of to post right now, my brain isn't working well and I feel like I've been hit by a (small) truck...lol! Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-10-20It will take time to cure him, and he is doing pretty well after just a few doses. I am certain that over time and with use of higher potencies he will become much better. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-10-20Thank you!! I should wait then until he starts becoming increasingly rigid and anxious again and then dose again in the same manner? Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-10-20Wait a little longer, it has only been 4-5 days. His not aggravating much is probably a sign that the dosage and potency is exactly what he needs right now. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-10-20Ok, thank you - I will keep you updated! Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Cumprum Metallicum Follow-UpFrom allicando on 2011-10-22It is hard to tell if I need to dose him again or not...he had some of the foot cramps again last night. And today he was just being extra loud and wanting constant attention - getting a little more intense that usual. He has been frowning and then crying if he does not get his way, like...sobbing, not screaming or getting as mad as he used to. I am watching for the OCD to come back...it is there in little amounts, along with stuttering and having to explain everything he is saying with extra detail or he will get upset if he can't get it all out, but not full-blown yet. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Cumprum Metallicum Follow-UpFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-10-23Repeat the remedy. Relapse does not have to be full, just enough to be marked. Report post to moderator Re: Cumprum Metallicum Follow-UpFrom allicando on 2011-10-23Ok - I was just saying that it is hard to tell because the OCD has never fully gone away after a dose, it is still there to a small degree, as well as all the other things I mentioned, so judging when it starts to become more is what I am trying to do now. He is in bed now so I will wait until tomorrow and reassess. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Cumprum Metallicum Follow-UpFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-10-23He will need multiple doses to get cured of course, we just need to make sure he is not aggravating or noticeably improving when we give those doses. Report post to moderator Re: Cumprum Metallicum Follow-UpFrom allicando on 2011-10-23Right - so I shouldn't worry terribly about redosing if he seems to be on a plateau, just not if he is noticeably improving? I have always waited until he is noticeably going downhill, but he seems to plateau for a while and this would change my dosing methods if it is ok to dose during that.
However, his hyperactivity has been through the roof and his teachers have talked to me about it several times this week saying it is not like him. I really rather think it is a side effect of the oral vitamin methyl B12 we started giving him last week, and I am going to start giving less and see how that goes. He has also been stimming more (most of his stims are hyperactivity, like running around in circles, jumping, making noises, etc), but his teacher said he's been doing it with his hands too. I think this is also a sign of the B12, since I have never seen him do this during an aggravation (or the hand thing ever, really.)
Mood has been much better and overall our interactions have been much more positive. He still wakes early but has not had a night terror since I gave him the remedy! Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-10-15Starting to not be quite as reponsive...not looking at you as much when you speak to him and instead more looking down and being distracted by things...like a toy, the buttons on a shirt, etc. Also slightly more likely to say, 'No, no!' and interrupt or correct you, or frown about something. It's not a dramatic backslide, but enough to wonder if we're getting towards the time I should redose again. I am wondering if the WHOLE symptom picture has to come back comepletely, or I can just see the downward trend before I need to redose. This part has always confused me. If I know he is regressing, but hasn't completely hit the 'bottom' yet, if you will, can I redose him then or do I have to wait? And when redosing how should I change it? Thanks! Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-10-16Repeat the remedy, once only. Relapse does not have to be complete to redose, and in fact is of no benefit to the patient to wait that long. It just has to be marked and persistent.
No change to the redose as yet, just give him one more dose and let's see what the response is.
You should probably get hold of 200c as well. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-10-16Ok, thanks for that...in the past I have always waited a long time to make sure (sometimes a week too long) because I have not wanted to hurt any progress.
I will order the 200c in the meantime.
Do you want me to again hit it against my palm twice before I put some in the cup? Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-10-17The sucussions (hits) are the most important step, almost more than anything else you do. Keept it at 2 for the time being. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-10-17Will do - thank you! Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-10-19He definitely still has less rigidity but he gets mad if you try to interrupt him when he is talking and starts to yell.
Still getting up pretty early (like around 6:00 or so) but waking much less from cramps (not any since the redose).
He is talking nonstop and still a little hyper. Again he didn't seem to aggravate though. He is not too social with strangers and even people he knows and will often ignore or look away if someone tries to talk to him still. (Unless it is his teacher or his dad or me). Eye contact is still sporadic but not terrible. He gets very distracted by details of things when he is talking and will fiddle with things or look at other things when he is answering someone. Wants to talk when he wants to talk but doesn't like to have to answer.
Not sure how he has been socially in his class at school, but I am volunteering for a field trip tomorrow so I might get a better idea then.
This is all I can think of to post right now, my brain isn't working well and I feel like I've been hit by a (small) truck...lol! Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-10-20It will take time to cure him, and he is doing pretty well after just a few doses. I am certain that over time and with use of higher potencies he will become much better. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-10-20Thank you!! I should wait then until he starts becoming increasingly rigid and anxious again and then dose again in the same manner? Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-10-20Wait a little longer, it has only been 4-5 days. His not aggravating much is probably a sign that the dosage and potency is exactly what he needs right now. Report post to moderator Re: Need help determining remedy for 4.5 y/o w/ Aspergers, case includedFrom allicando on 2011-10-20Ok, thank you - I will keep you updated! Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Cumprum Metallicum Follow-UpFrom allicando on 2011-10-22It is hard to tell if I need to dose him again or not...he had some of the foot cramps again last night. And today he was just being extra loud and wanting constant attention - getting a little more intense that usual. He has been frowning and then crying if he does not get his way, like...sobbing, not screaming or getting as mad as he used to. I am watching for the OCD to come back...it is there in little amounts, along with stuttering and having to explain everything he is saying with extra detail or he will get upset if he can't get it all out, but not full-blown yet. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Cumprum Metallicum Follow-UpFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-10-23Repeat the remedy. Relapse does not have to be full, just enough to be marked. Report post to moderator Re: Cumprum Metallicum Follow-UpFrom allicando on 2011-10-23Ok - I was just saying that it is hard to tell because the OCD has never fully gone away after a dose, it is still there to a small degree, as well as all the other things I mentioned, so judging when it starts to become more is what I am trying to do now. He is in bed now so I will wait until tomorrow and reassess. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Cumprum Metallicum Follow-UpFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-10-23He will need multiple doses to get cured of course, we just need to make sure he is not aggravating or noticeably improving when we give those doses. Report post to moderator Re: Cumprum Metallicum Follow-UpFrom allicando on 2011-10-23Right - so I shouldn't worry terribly about redosing if he seems to be on a plateau, just not if he is noticeably improving? I have always waited until he is noticeably going downhill, but he seems to plateau for a while and this would change my dosing methods if it is ok to dose during that.
allicando last decade
Re: Cumprum Metallicum Follow-UpFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-10-23If there is no improvement, and a week as passed, then repeating is usually appropriate. This depends on alot of things though - is the patient still suffering, are the symptoms very acute? This might require more frequent dosing. Report post to moderator Re: Cumprum Metallicum Follow-UpFrom allicando on 2011-10-23Usually there is a bit of improvement in his symptoms for a couple days, but not complete improvement, i.e. symptoms are still there, just less. Then it plateaus for a few more days. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Cumprum Metallicum Follow-UpFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-10-23How many days since the last dose has it been? Report post to moderator Re: Cumprum Metallicum Follow-UpFrom allicando on 2011-10-23It has been 5 days. Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Cumprum Metallicum Follow-UpFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-10-23Yeah I would repeat, and in fact I would give him a dose every 3 days unless you see an aggravation or he is really much much better (or obviously getting better each day). Report post to moderator Re: Cumprum Metallicum Follow-UpFrom allicando on 2011-10-23Ok - I didn't know if I could dose on set schedule, but if you think this would be ok based on how he has responded so far, that would make it a lot easier to figure out - thanks! Edit Post Report post to moderator Re: Cumprum Metallicum Follow-UpFrom allicando on 2011-10-23Do you by any chance have a copy of this case on your personal computer or only on this forum? I am feeling somewhat uncomfortable about some of the more personal posts on this thread and my other thread being visible and would like to edit them (except for the follow-up portions) if it would not affect your follow-up of the case. Please let me know...
I do think this is the end of what I had deleted. The rest should be found here.
I do think this is the end of what I had deleted. The rest should be found here.
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