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Osteoarthritis : Please advice

Hello everyone, I am a 30 year old male from India. However, I am seeking remedy suggestions in this forum for my mother who is suffering from osteoarthritis.

I will try to answer the questions as per the forum rules with as much accuracy as possible.

1. ID: aniroy2012 (seeking advice for my mother)
2. Age : 60 years
3. Sex : Female
4. Marital Status : widow
5. weight : 64 kg
6. Height : 5'1'
7. country : India
8. climate : good, neither hot nor cold during the maximum time of the year ; Pune
9. List of your complaints

a) Osteoarthritis : Problem started suddenly 6 months back with body pain/ache everywhere in all joints. Even walking a short distance was very difficult. We visited aleopathy doctors who gave medicines primarily arthritis related. Body pain reduced and things improved. However, even after 6 months medication, pain in right knee is not going away. It increases once or twice every couple of weeks and subsides by itself. Pain usually increases during night and reduces in the day time and the pain seems to be associated with the right hand side of the body. The left side is usually trouble free. Please note we visited an arthritis specialist (aleopathy) and is under medication last 6 months. She doesn't like walking much these days or standing. Before this problem, she used to be very mobile and active. Now, the activity factor has gone down since she has lost the confidence of walking and moving all by herself and also the right knee pain is a major worry for us which doesn't seem to go away. We did xrays of both knees and as per report, she is in the primary stage of osteoarthritis.

b)She takes aleopathy medicines regularly for the last 10 years for keeping her bp in check. She usually has high bp. Because of medications, the bp is stable

c)5 months back she also suffered from piles(with blood). We took advice from ayurvedic doctor and now the bleeding stool problem seems to be solved. She no longer takes ayurvedic medicines for piles.

10. Since how long are you suffering from each complaint?
a) arthritis - 6 months
b) bp - taking medication since last 10 years
c)piles - 5 months

11. Diabetic or non-Diabetic
non - diabetic
12. Desire sweets/sour/salt
normal desires
13. Thirst
less thirsty feeling
14. Tongue and Taste
less hunger; taste normal
15. Current BP (without medicine and with medicine)

takes medicine ; 110/70

16. Family Background : widow, 2 sons. stays with younger son
27. Educational Qualifications of the patient : science grad

17. Nature of work, what do you do for living?
homemaker

18. Desires, likes and dislikes for food
likes tasty food; no particular craving for food

19. What first started it off (ie walking in a cold wind)
She had a sudden fever 6/7 months back. The body pain started after a few days. She didn't had any fever related symptoms after that till date.

20.When it's worse (ie on seeing bright lights, on stepping, before period, etc)

night time

21.When it feels better (ie lying down in a dark room, when warm, when cold)

day time pain is much reduced, donot like walking or standing much
22.Your sleep pattern and details of any recurring dreams.

less sleep, disturbed by frequent urination urge, no dreams
23.What you are sensitive to (ie, heat, cold, touch, criticism, etc)
none as such
24.Your state of mind (fears, anxieties, attitudes, moods, etc)
sometimes anxiety a bit, a bit of depression, feeling lonely...worried about future
25.Any desires or aversions for particular foods, and wether certain foods make you feel better or worse.

no food as such. Likes to go for change of taste some times.
26.Details of any major diseases suffered in past.

none
27.Detals of any reactions to other medicines taken.
none
28.History of homeopathic treatment if any.
argentum metallicum 6c for arthritis. Not much help derived. Arnica 30c during acute pain.
29.All other symptoms you have
less sleep
less hunger
less thirst all day
digestion problem
constipation
less energetic since arthritis attack
suffers from left knee pain from time to time; under alopathy treatment; takes bp medicine regularly
 
  aniroy2012 on 2012-06-25
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Hi..I was expecting suggestions for the problem I have posted above with respect to my mother. But it seems no one is in a mood for helping or taking some time out from their busy schedule to help me out...

As per the forum rules, I have mentioned the problem in detail..but its amazing to see people who just mention the name of the disease are getting more replies !!

Its a request, kindly help me out. Thanking you all in anticipation...regards !
 
aniroy2012 last decade
Dear Gentleman
Pl do not take otherwise. Everybody is helping and cooperative here.

Pl give your mother
one dose of 6 pills of Medorrihinum-1m
Next day no medicine.
Then start
1. Causticum-200 6 pills 2 times a day
2. Hornbeam 5 drops 2 times a day in 2 teaspoonful water

Pl keep 30-40 minutes gap between 1 and 2.
Pl give feedback after one week.

R.P. Tamhankar
[message edited by shouse_nsk on Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:28:45 BST]
 
shouse_nsk last decade
Dear Dr Tamhankar,

Thanks for your response on this. As suggested by you, my mother has started with your prescribed medicines. I would list down the feedback points below:

First the positives:

a)My mother used to have a continuous bone crushing pain or muscle pain on her legs at nighttime (after retiring to bed for sleeping) for the last few months almost every other day. After starting your medication, things have improved. In the last 7 days, she has complained of the pain once/twice
b)Her mood or overall thinking has improved. She has less negative thoughts these days as reported by her.

Now the negatives :

a)the pain in the joints are still there. She feels discomfort while walking or standing for a brief amount of time and prefers sitting down during those times.
b)once she sits down, she faces difficulty/discomfort in standing up
c)She complaints of muscle pain in her right hand fingers and hand (sometimes left hand and fingers also)in the morning after she wakes up. Things become normal or pain gets reduced after some time.
d) sometimes there are swelling on her legs ( below ankles)
e)how she feels overall is not consistent. Sometimes she feels good(no pain, no cramps) and some times, she is in discomfort with her body pains
f)She feels coldish some times although there is no high body temperatures
g) once she gets up in the morning, she remains energetic for a few hours and then she gets tired and weary. Looses her enthusiasm by noon.
h)Constipation : It would be great if you can suggest some remedy for this.
i)Her body pain is also not consistent. Legs (from knees to ankles) pain is there regularly. She also complaints of pain in other areas like hands, fingers...overall body
j)sometimes there is a bit of discomfort feeling in the right side of her stomach. This maybe due to constipation.
k)overall I would like to say her health is not going well for the last 6/7 months. Before that she used to be quite good with some minor issues here and there. The arthritis pain has bogged her down a lot and some tickling problem (health issues) seems to follow her everyday these days...


My apologies for the long post. But I thought detail would help you in better understanding your patient.

Awaiting your kind response..

Best Regards..
 
aniroy2012 last decade
Pl give her
1. one dose of 6 pills of Medorrihium-1m every week.
2. In addition to other medicines, pl give her
Bryonia-200 6 pills 2 times a day.
3. If possible, pl put 1/2 (half) teaspoonful Castor Oil in the wheat flour of her chapatti every day.

Always pl keep some time gap in two medicines.

Report back after 10 days.

I am not very far away from you. I am at Nashik
R.P. Tamhankar
[message edited by shouse_nsk on Fri, 06 Jul 2012 02:52:13 BST]
[message edited by shouse_nsk on Fri, 06 Jul 2012 02:53:02 BST]
 
shouse_nsk last decade
Dear Dr Tamhankar,

Thanks for your response on this. Good to know you are in Maharashtra as well and nearby. I am basically from Kolkata and currently in Pune because of professional reasons.

As suggested by you, my mother has started with the new medicines you have prescribed. I would list down the feedback points below:

First the positives:

a)Things have improved a bit with joint pain little more manageable these days
b)Her sleep seems to have improved with less disturbances because of body pains. However, it would be good if you may please suggest some medicine that would induce more deep sleep. Also, most of her pains seems to increase at night.

Now the negatives :

a) the pain in the joints are still there.
b) she does not like to stand for a long time
c) if she sits down, getting up is an issue for her and she feels discomfort
d) after walking for some time, she feels uncomfortable with legs feeling weak and she looses energy very fast these days
e) finger numbness while getting up from sleep in the morning
f) overall not having that 'feel good' feeling with her body because of body pains every now and then. The body pain seems to rise during night time. Sometimes, even her hands troubles her with pain...

OK, now I am going to add one new problem which has recently cropped up. It seems these days if one thing improves, another new issue takes its place.

The pilesproblem she had is back. She had stools with blood for the last 2 days with pain as well as irritation in her anus. The pain is accompanied by burning sensation as well and is causing great discomfort to her. She is taking the ayurvedic medicine 'Abhyarishta' for getting some relief and is also trying some anal cream for pain reduction. She usually has to apply some pressure everytime she passes her stool. Her piles problem started 6 months back almost at the same time with arthritis and she took ayurvedic medicines for the same. It helped her but now it seems it was not a permanent relief!!

Request you to help us for this new problem regarding Piles/hemorrhoids as well. Doctor has suggested surgery but she is not at all comfortable with this idea. Kindly help,

Thanks & Regards...
 
aniroy2012 last decade
Pl do some changes as follows
1. In place of Bryonia-200, now take Rhus Tox-200 6 pills 2 times a day
2. Nux Vomica-200 6 pills at bedtime every day

Rest of the medicines (Medorrihinum and Castor Oil)
to continue as suggested

Pl give feedback after 15 days

R.P. Tamhankar
 
shouse_nsk last decade
Dear Dr Tamhankar,

My mother has followed your new prescription.

Here goes the updates :

Positives:

a)Piles prob has improved substantially. Reduction in pain, discomfort.
b)arthritis pain has reduced especially the bone crushing pain at night that used to give her tremendous discomfort
c) sleep has improved - less disturbed sleep at night

Negatives :

a) Although pain has got reduced to an extent, the legs feel very weak. She wants to walk but her legs refuses to. She feels that her legs are not strong enough to carry her and worries about her mobility in future.
b)the pain in the joints are still there to an extent accompanied by body pain in other areas like hands, fingers etc. The pain comes back sporadically. Not always.
c) she does not like to stand for a long time
d) if she sits down, getting up is an issue for her and she feels discomfort & takes time in getting up.


Few questions from my end :

a) can she use the electric heat pad on the affected joints. Will it help?
b) any oil available in the market application/massage will help? If yes, can you suggest one?
c)She was just fine 7/8 months back with no problem at all while walking. Can she return to that stage? Can homeopathy cure this disease to an extent that she can lead a normal lifestyle with very less dependencies on others?

Awaiting your kind response.

Thanks & regards...
 
aniroy2012 last decade
Ani Roy
I feel that she is giving a good response to the our medicines. So Pl continue the same set of medicines with only one addtion
Pl give her Horn Beam-Q (Bach Flower medicine) 5 drops 2 times a day in 2 teaspoonful water.
All other medicines to continue as it is.

Pl give feedback after 15 days

R.P. Tamhankar
 
shouse_nsk last decade
Thank you for your kind response.

I have got one query.

She is already continuing with Hornbeam (5 drops 2 times a day)since you prescribed it in your first response. We have not stopped it in between.

Is Hornbeam Q the same thing or something different? Please confirm.

Regards...
 
aniroy2012 last decade
It is same. If you are continuing then OK
1. You can apply heating pad to the affected area. If she feels better continue it.
2. There is 'Rhumasaj' Oil manuctured by Pitambari products. You can do a massage. This is a good product.

R.P. Tamhankar
[message edited by shouse_nsk on Sun, 05 Aug 2012 05:59:44 BST]
 
shouse_nsk last decade
Dear Dr. Tamhankar,

Thanks to you, overall things have improved and she feels better these days than couple of months back.

However, few symptoms that are troubling her without much respite are the following :

a) Knee pain (both legs)- restricts her movement. Getting up after seated for some time is a painful process for her
b)both hands (mainly in the shoulder areas) - pain from time to time
c)pain in fingers (hands)
d)feels there is lesser strength in the two legs...sometimes becomes a bit difficult for her to keep balance for a few seconds while walking (especially during long walks)

Awaiting your kind response,

Thanks & regards...
 
aniroy2012 last decade
Roy

It seems that she is better compared to 2 months before.

We should wait for medicines to work. So continue the medicines for next 15 days as it is.
Only change I would like suggest is, in place of Medorrihinum-1m, pl take OAN-1m (a weekly dose) for next 2 weeks and give me feedback after 15 days of the treatment

Next time we will review the case

R.P. Tamhankar
[message edited by shouse_nsk on Sun, 19 Aug 2012 03:07:14 BST]
 
shouse_nsk last decade
Hello Dr Tamhankar,

My local homeopathy medicine shop who till date was able to supply me with all homeo medicines I asked for failed this time with OAN 1M. He requested me to ask my doctor once more whether its OAN or something else.....Can you please advise whether there is some other name to OAN and where can I find it in Pune if possible?

Thank You for your support!

Best Regards...
 
aniroy2012 last decade
It is Osteo Arthritic Nosode-1m
If you do not get there, I have with me. I can send to you by courier. The distance from Nashik to Pune is not much. Next day you will get.

R.P. Tamhankar
 
shouse_nsk last decade
Thank you for your kind gesture!

I will check out two more shops, if i am not able to get it, I will come back to you Sir...

Best Regards...
 
aniroy2012 last decade
Dr Tamhankar,

I got OAN in another shop finally and as suggested by you, here is the update after 15 days. You also mentioned that you will be reviewing the case this time in your last post.

Here goes the latest scenario:

a)not much improvement over what I mentioned 2 weeks back. Infact pain in both knees has increased. This has affected her sleep as well.
b) Knee pain (both legs)- restricts her movement. Getting up after seated for some time is a painful process for her
c)both hands (mainly in the shoulder areas) - pain from time to time
c)pain in fingers (hands)
d)feels there is lesser strength in the two legs...sometimes becomes a bit difficult for her to keep balance for a few seconds while walking (especially during long walks)
e) using stairs is becoming difficult for her
f) sometimes pain also felt in waist region
g)she feels coldish/feverish all the time. I measured her body temperature. Her temperature is a bit lesser than normal these days. the digital thermometer gave a reading of around 97 degrees
h)After waking up from bed in the morning, the knees are in even more bad condition than the rest of the day.

The conditions are disappointing since she used to have absolutely no issues 8 months back.

Is there a remedy to stop the cartilage from further erosion in homeopathy?

I look forward to your kind suggestions and hope things improve to a greater extent in the near future

Thanks & Best Regards
 
aniroy2012 last decade
Dr Tamhankar,

Expecting a response from your end..

Thanks & regards
 
aniroy2012 last decade
Ani Roy

The last treatment was
1.Rhous Tox-200 6 pills 2 times a day (every day)
2. Nux Vomica-200 6 pills at bed time every day
3. Hornbeam 5 drops 2 times a day
4. OAN-1m 6 pills once in a week (Weekly dose)
5. one chapati cotaining small amount of castor oil

Pl corect me if I am worng.

She was showing a good response to the medicines. Only change we did was in place of Medorrhinum-1m we gave OAN-1m. If OAN-1m is causing some problem pl stop it for some days. (1m dose of Medorrihinnum also stop it for some days.)aand continue the medicines for 10 days and give me feedback. Her pileswere also subsided. Then what happened that she suddenly got worse. Pl check whether there was some dietic error. (some wrong food)

R.P. Tamhankar
 
shouse_nsk last decade
Dear Dr. Tamhankar,

Yes, these are the medicines she is taking currently.

But the problem is she is having recurring issues with arthritis. The pain subsides for a few days and again comes back. I have mentioned this in my earlier posts also. Till the improvements are consistent we cant say its a major improvement.

We recently went for a full body checkup and the test results were normal except for high bp.

She has got three major issues which don't seem to go away and keeps on coming back:

a)knee pain (mainly right knee)
b)weak feeling in legs
c) prob in getting up after sitting down, using stair cases

I look forward to your kind suggestions and hope things improve to a greater extent in the near future

Thanks & Best Regards
 
aniroy2012 last decade
Dr. Tamhankar,

Awaiting response from your end. ..

Regards
 
aniroy2012 last decade
Ani Roy
Sorry I am bit late to reply.

I would like to do little chages in treatment. I would like have a feedback of her pilesand constpation problem.

The revised treatment is
1. Rhus Tox-200 6 pills 2 times a day (every day)
2. Nux Vomica-200 6 pills 2 times a day (Every day)
3. Horn Beam 5 drops 2 times day in one or two spoonful water (every day)
4. Pulsetilla-1m 6 pills at bedtime (every day)
5. Causticum-1m 6 pills once in a week

Pl take the treatment for 15 days and then give feedback.
If it is possible to come down to Nashik with the patient, it would be better. (if not creating any problem then come)

R.P. Tamhankar
[message edited by shouse_nsk on Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:05:11 BST]
 
shouse_nsk last decade
Dear Dr Tamhankar,

As suggested, my mother is currently on the new prescription medicines as suggested by you in your last post.

Her arthritis pain is now manageable with lesser complaints than before. Also, her pilesand constipation problems are also under control and currently better.

How ever, I would like to mention that sometimes she experience whole body pain. And also complaints that after taking bath in the morning, she feels very weak or tired and feels very less energetic.

Thanks & best regards...
 
aniroy2012 last decade
Ani Roy

1. In place of Rhus Tox-200 Pl give Sulphur-200. Pl give this for 15 days and then we will take again a review.
2. Other medicines to continue as it is.
3. If she can take 'Basti' (Enema) for cleansing of rectum, it is better. This is a well proved remedy. She can take a 'Basti' of Sesame oil with water.

Pl give feedback after 15 days

R.P. Tamhankar
 
shouse_nsk last decade
Dear Dr Tamhankar,

As prescribed my mother is taking the new medicines for the last 2 weeks.

The update is although the knee pain is under control (pain goes up and down as usual), her pilesproblem is back. She is under discomfort from pain and there is blood with stool for the last 2 days. Because of the piles prob, she is feeling very less energetic.

Kindly suggest...

Thanks & Regards
 
aniroy2012 last decade
A small change you do.
1. In place of HornBeam pl give her Hemamelis-Q 5 drops in two teaspoonful water twice a day
Rest of the medicines to continue as it is.

Pl give feedback after 15 days. If required then earlier.

R.P. Tamhankar
[message edited by shouse_nsk on Sun, 28 Oct 2012 02:05:47 GMT]
 
shouse_nsk last decade

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