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4 month old with Acid Reflux - Dr J Kindly suggest

Dear Dr Joe

My 4 month old has been suffering from acid reflux for about 3 weeks now .He is on breast milk 100% . ( I feed him via bottle ( ie pumped milk) and direct)
We burp him easily durning daytime but durning nights we could never get him to burp after feed. ( even trying for an hour or so ..  no burp once he falls asleep)

His  symptoms 
- throws up after every feed ( curdy and sour smelly in nature)
- extremely fussy during feeding and after.
-restless and sleepless durning night time.
- bowels- yellow in color and smelly.

His PED prescribed Zantac but we tried chamomilla 200c  instead - just one dose today and he became 
extremely restless and inconsolable for over an hour.

 .Kindly advice
  Xanthippe.in on 2013-01-20
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
I would like to compliment you, the parents on NOT giving your baby the Zantac which is a PPI drug and has been discovered as dangerous for adults and far more dangerous for babies. You can Google 'Danger of using PPI drugs' for more information.

I am copying my default therapy for Baby Gerd below:

It is very likely that your baby suffers from Gastric Reflux aka GERD (Gastro Esophagal Reflux Disease)

The remedies that have proved to be very effective for Baby GERD are:

Nat Phos 6x dose half tablet dissolved in milk given immediately after a feed

Arnica 30c in the Wet dose given twice daily. Half teaspoonful is a dose.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.

You will STOP all other drugs prescribed for baby which as you have already seen have not done any good.

Please confirm that you burp baby immediately after each feed.

You will avoid eating all food that can cause any distress to baby.You must know that they are passed on to baby through your breast milk.

You (the mother) will take Nat Phos 6x dose 2 tablets after each of 3 meals daily and Arnica 30c in the Wet dose taken twice daily. The idea is that your milk will pass the effect to baby. You may like to know that this remedy will also help to reduce your weight by 1kg per week very safely.

Report progress in 24 hours and as often as you wish on this thread .
Joe De Livera last decade
Thanks so much Dr Joe. Nat Phos 6x - half a pill after eat feed.? Pardon my ignorance but it was rather difficult cutting such a small pill.

Can I use one entire pill and give it with milk?? Also if the baby is feeding 6 times a day does it mean I ve give him the med 6 times

I just ordered Arnica Montana from an store .Is it the same ?

Thnx much
Xanthippe.in last decade
Dear Joe

We been giving Nat Phos 6x - 1 pill 3 times a day for 2 days now. And arnica 30c liquid dilution dose twice a day for 2 days now.

His acid reflux is not completely gone he still throws up once or twice a day..but his sleep is totally gone. Not sleelping for more than an hour in the night and not sleeping at all during the day.

Kindly suggest
Xanthippe.in last decade
I have come across your post but did not receive the automatic email alert for some reason I do not understand. If I do not reply to any future post please alert me by email on my address you will find in my profile, as I find that you had posted on January 20 and 26 and I was not alerted.

You can increase the dosage of Nat Phos 6x to half tablet taken after every feed but I prefer not to advice a full tablet as we are treating a baby, 4 months old.

You can add Nux Vomica 30c in the Wet dose of half a teaspoon full taken twice daily. This reinforces the action of Nat Phos 6x.

Report progress in 24 hours.
Joe De Livera last decade
Dr Joe
We ordered Nux Vom still not received so continuing with Nat Phos 6x and arnica . Today is day 5.

His reflux got way better. He is not throwing up that often . It's not completely gone. ( throw up atleast once a day but fussiness is gone.)

His sleep is still an issue. He is still waking up every one to 2 hrs in the night.

My quick question is - how long do we continue with Nat Phos ??

Thanks much
Xanthippe.in last decade
and Is Nat Phos affecting his sleep ??
Xanthippe.in last decade
Glad to note that in just 5 days your baby's Reflux is now under control. I do not think that the Nux Vomica which I prescribed a few days ago is needed now as he seems to be well on the road to a complete CURE.

Nat Phos 6x given as directed cannot possibly affect his sleep and you can give it to him for as long as he needs that extra help to let his body stabilises.

Shall we stop the Arnica to see if baby's sleep is helped? It helps sleep in adults and it may be of interest to see how it helps baby.
Continue with the Nat Phos as usual and report response in 24 hours.

I presume that you are taking Nat Phos 6x yourself as directed. Please confirm.
Joe De Livera last decade
I live in Nor Cal and stores here sell only 'C' and not 'X' . Can I take Nat Phos 6C instead ? ( I am giving my 4 month old 6X of course )

I will stop Arnica from this evening and see how his sleeps improves .

I will continue Nat Phos 6x for my son.

Thanks so much for getting back to me so promptly.
Xanthippe.in last decade
Nat Phos 6c is not comparable with Nat Phos 6x and cannot be used for both baby and you to help with gastric problems.

Whatever you do, please ensure that you only give him Nat Phos 6x as prescribed.

If you do have this remedy with you, I cannot understand your problem in taking it yourself.
Joe De Livera last decade
No problem at all .. Trying to save the pills for the baby.:):)
Just ordered another 6x ..thanks for letting me know about x and C.
Xanthippe.in last decade
Dear Dr Joe

After stopping Arnica my son's sleep improved a bit.
We been giving Nat Phos 6x for 8 days now . Dosage is 3 pills a day.

His reflux did not seem to improve much ..some days like today he is throwing up more often than others.

Today he was throwing up pretty much (an hour) after each feed.

Kindly suggest.
[message edited by Xanthippe.in on Sun, 03 Feb 2013 01:47:47 GMT]
Xanthippe.in last decade
Your observation about Arnica is interesting as this remedy promotes sleep. Please record the steps you took to make the remedy for my information. In the meanwhile do stop giving it to him.

Continue with the Nat Phos 6x but reduce the quantity of milk you are giving him per feed. It is likely that his stomach cannot digest all the milk at one time. You can however increase the frequency of the feeds to keep him happy without throwing up.

Order Nux Vomica 30c in the Liquid Dilution but do not give it to him till I tell you to do so, if necessary.
Joe De Livera last decade

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