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My husband has been having lower back pain this whole time. Now it has worsened into sciatic pain radiating down both legs. Worse with movement or lifting/bending.
[message edited by alaskamom on Thu, 06 Nov 2014 21:00:58 GMT]
[message edited by alaskamom on Thu, 06 Nov 2014 21:00:58 GMT]
alaskamom last decade
Has he had that back pain for the last 5-6 weeks or more?
Did he repeat the remedy? That certainly sounds like the 'stuck' situation I was talking about.
Did he repeat the remedy? That certainly sounds like the 'stuck' situation I was talking about.
♡ Evocationer last decade
alaskamom last decade
And I would assume with no improvement showing? Did he notice any other changes from repeating the remedy - especially in the mental/emotional spheres?
♡ Evocationer last decade
I think it was still helping him emotionally, but not as dramatically as it had at the beginning. Still, there was some benefit from it.
But no, no improvement in the back pain.
[message edited by alaskamom on Fri, 07 Nov 2014 01:31:10 GMT]
But no, no improvement in the back pain.
[message edited by alaskamom on Fri, 07 Nov 2014 01:31:10 GMT]
alaskamom last decade
What I would normally do at this stage, when a remedy has helped the mental part but not the physical, is go to LM1. However, you will probably find that difficult to obtain. The perils of trying to treat through this forum...
Can you take the symptoms for me? I will post the new set of guidelines I wrote recently - you will have to be my homoeopathic assistant here. I will see if there is something we can give for the back.
CASE PRESENTATION FOR CLASSICAL HOMOEOPATHIC PRESCRIBING
General Guidelines:
1. Try to be as descriptive as possible. When describing pains or sensations use descriptions along the lines of feels as if someone is squeezing it with their hand or it is like an insect crawling around inside or it is as if someone is standing over me threatening to kill me. Long descriptions are always better than short ones. One word answers are difficult to use successfully.
2. Another important part of symptom description for homoeopathy are the modalities. These are situations, events, activities or conditions which modify the symptom in some way. We usually refer to this as what makes them better or worse (amelioration/aggravation). The situation may actually provoke the symptom into appearing, make it vanish altogether, or just increase or decrease it in some way. Modalities are vital information for prescribing.
Modalities are typically related to (but not exclusively) the following situations:
A. Temperature, weather
B. Time (day, night, specific times, frequency, periodicity, season)
C. Position, activity
D. Emotions, thoughts
E. Food and drink
F. Drugs, medication
3. How the symptom is perceived is important too odour, appearance, sound, touch. What colour is it, what is its texture? For gestures, describe what it looks like the patient is doing, or what you feel you are doing while making the movement eg. they look like they are swatting flies or I feel like something is pushing my hand upwards or it is like I stick a fork in an electrical outlet which throws my body backwards. Description it is key to accurate prescriptions.
4. When did the symptom or set of symptoms start? The apparent cause can be useful in determining the remedy, although it is not of the same importance as the previous factors. It may have been a specific event, a disease, an accident or even an emotional experience.
5. Use your own words. Do not copy phrases or descriptions found in our various remedy pictures. Try not to use other peoples ideas or thoughts or words. If you are reporting on behalf of someone else, report their exact words, however you can also report your own observations of them (not opinions).
6. Does the symptom occur alongside another specific symptom? Do particular symptoms only occur together? Does a particular symptom occur with a particular thought or emotion? For example, a headache that always comes with visual disturbances, or stomach pain that appears alongside anger, or anxiety that makes you feel like running down the street screaming.
7. Each complaint should be described fully before going on to describe another complaint. Try not to mix different symptoms or complaints together. Each modifying feature must be clearly attached to a particular symptom/set of symptoms. Any mistake you make here is a mistake the homoeopath will also then make.
Can you take the symptoms for me? I will post the new set of guidelines I wrote recently - you will have to be my homoeopathic assistant here. I will see if there is something we can give for the back.
CASE PRESENTATION FOR CLASSICAL HOMOEOPATHIC PRESCRIBING
General Guidelines:
1. Try to be as descriptive as possible. When describing pains or sensations use descriptions along the lines of feels as if someone is squeezing it with their hand or it is like an insect crawling around inside or it is as if someone is standing over me threatening to kill me. Long descriptions are always better than short ones. One word answers are difficult to use successfully.
2. Another important part of symptom description for homoeopathy are the modalities. These are situations, events, activities or conditions which modify the symptom in some way. We usually refer to this as what makes them better or worse (amelioration/aggravation). The situation may actually provoke the symptom into appearing, make it vanish altogether, or just increase or decrease it in some way. Modalities are vital information for prescribing.
Modalities are typically related to (but not exclusively) the following situations:
A. Temperature, weather
B. Time (day, night, specific times, frequency, periodicity, season)
C. Position, activity
D. Emotions, thoughts
E. Food and drink
F. Drugs, medication
3. How the symptom is perceived is important too odour, appearance, sound, touch. What colour is it, what is its texture? For gestures, describe what it looks like the patient is doing, or what you feel you are doing while making the movement eg. they look like they are swatting flies or I feel like something is pushing my hand upwards or it is like I stick a fork in an electrical outlet which throws my body backwards. Description it is key to accurate prescriptions.
4. When did the symptom or set of symptoms start? The apparent cause can be useful in determining the remedy, although it is not of the same importance as the previous factors. It may have been a specific event, a disease, an accident or even an emotional experience.
5. Use your own words. Do not copy phrases or descriptions found in our various remedy pictures. Try not to use other peoples ideas or thoughts or words. If you are reporting on behalf of someone else, report their exact words, however you can also report your own observations of them (not opinions).
6. Does the symptom occur alongside another specific symptom? Do particular symptoms only occur together? Does a particular symptom occur with a particular thought or emotion? For example, a headache that always comes with visual disturbances, or stomach pain that appears alongside anger, or anxiety that makes you feel like running down the street screaming.
7. Each complaint should be described fully before going on to describe another complaint. Try not to mix different symptoms or complaints together. Each modifying feature must be clearly attached to a particular symptom/set of symptoms. Any mistake you make here is a mistake the homoeopath will also then make.
♡ Evocationer last decade
♡ Evocationer last decade
Here we go.
1. Back pain, mid to lower back, near the kidney area, bilaterally (but also hurts on the spine as well). Sharp, stabbing pain, feels as if someone is sticking a hot knife in and twisting it. It feels like something is poking him, in around the muscles and spine (hard for him to say exactly which one). It radiates down the gleuteals, and on that area feels kind of numb. Occasionally radiates down the back of the legs, also feeling both pain and numbness there.
2. Modalities. Gets some relief from Ibuprofen (high dose-- 1000 mg). Does not completely take away the pain, but it helps make it more bearable. Also temporarily feels better after sex.
Chiropractic adjustments by a trusted chiropractor will eliminate his pain altogether (but we can't afford to do that right now).
Makes it feel worse: Bouncing up and down on the seat in my truck, even driving over a tiny bump makes it feel worse. Lifting, walking, bending, even just sitting hurts. Laying down flat helps a small amount. Seems like any activity or motion besides laying flat aggravates it. Even with laying flat, it still is hard to find a comfortable position. Sometimes the pain will wake him up at night and he will be unable to get back to sleep.
3. How it is perceived---others can tell he is in obvious discomfort. He feels like he walks around like an old man. I see him walking, and he has a slight limp/gimp, a slow shuffle and slightly bent forward, as if he would feel better if he had a cane or something to put his weight on. Sometimes in looking at him, I feel he is being so careful not to make the pain worse, that it would probably hurt him terribly if he were to get bumped or have to suddenly move in a different direction, because it looks so painful even though he is walking gingerly. He gasps, groans, moans and grunts from the pain.
4. The current flare-up of his on again/off again back pain began around mid-September, and was a result of his job as a cement truck driver, driving over bumpy roads. He has had a 'bad back' since very young. As a child--maybe 5 or 10 years old--his chiropractor told him he had a back just like his grandmother's, which we don't know exactly what is wrong with hers, but she has severe headaches, neck pain, seems like maybe from looking at her, an abnormal curve to her upper back. He had an injury at 12 years old to his chin, got hit with a ball square in the chin, and subsequently was paralyzed for about 24 hours. He also had mental confusion and couldn't say things straight, was mixing up words and couldn't recall certain things either (temporary memory loss). That was not the start of his lower back pain, but was the start of his migraines/cluster headaches (with memory issues at times as well, but not with every headache).
He had another injury in 2001 where he was helping carry a patient on a stretcher, and his partner dropped his half of the stretcher. My husband had to try to keep the stretcher from falling sideways by using all his strength and twisting at the upper body. He saved the patient from getting dumped out, but has never fully healed from that injury. That was up in his upper back, near the shoulder blades, but may be related to his overall back issues. He doesn't recall the exact start of this exact same pain in his life, but it has happened many times, so it's not new. Seems like whenever it flares up, it's been from bouncing on a bumpy road in a work vehicle. He's done a lot of truck driving for a living.
6. No, no other symptoms occur concomitantly.
7. Right now this specific symptom is the only one to report.
[message edited by alaskamom on Sun, 09 Nov 2014 06:34:03 GMT]
1. Back pain, mid to lower back, near the kidney area, bilaterally (but also hurts on the spine as well). Sharp, stabbing pain, feels as if someone is sticking a hot knife in and twisting it. It feels like something is poking him, in around the muscles and spine (hard for him to say exactly which one). It radiates down the gleuteals, and on that area feels kind of numb. Occasionally radiates down the back of the legs, also feeling both pain and numbness there.
2. Modalities. Gets some relief from Ibuprofen (high dose-- 1000 mg). Does not completely take away the pain, but it helps make it more bearable. Also temporarily feels better after sex.
Chiropractic adjustments by a trusted chiropractor will eliminate his pain altogether (but we can't afford to do that right now).
Makes it feel worse: Bouncing up and down on the seat in my truck, even driving over a tiny bump makes it feel worse. Lifting, walking, bending, even just sitting hurts. Laying down flat helps a small amount. Seems like any activity or motion besides laying flat aggravates it. Even with laying flat, it still is hard to find a comfortable position. Sometimes the pain will wake him up at night and he will be unable to get back to sleep.
3. How it is perceived---others can tell he is in obvious discomfort. He feels like he walks around like an old man. I see him walking, and he has a slight limp/gimp, a slow shuffle and slightly bent forward, as if he would feel better if he had a cane or something to put his weight on. Sometimes in looking at him, I feel he is being so careful not to make the pain worse, that it would probably hurt him terribly if he were to get bumped or have to suddenly move in a different direction, because it looks so painful even though he is walking gingerly. He gasps, groans, moans and grunts from the pain.
4. The current flare-up of his on again/off again back pain began around mid-September, and was a result of his job as a cement truck driver, driving over bumpy roads. He has had a 'bad back' since very young. As a child--maybe 5 or 10 years old--his chiropractor told him he had a back just like his grandmother's, which we don't know exactly what is wrong with hers, but she has severe headaches, neck pain, seems like maybe from looking at her, an abnormal curve to her upper back. He had an injury at 12 years old to his chin, got hit with a ball square in the chin, and subsequently was paralyzed for about 24 hours. He also had mental confusion and couldn't say things straight, was mixing up words and couldn't recall certain things either (temporary memory loss). That was not the start of his lower back pain, but was the start of his migraines/cluster headaches (with memory issues at times as well, but not with every headache).
He had another injury in 2001 where he was helping carry a patient on a stretcher, and his partner dropped his half of the stretcher. My husband had to try to keep the stretcher from falling sideways by using all his strength and twisting at the upper body. He saved the patient from getting dumped out, but has never fully healed from that injury. That was up in his upper back, near the shoulder blades, but may be related to his overall back issues. He doesn't recall the exact start of this exact same pain in his life, but it has happened many times, so it's not new. Seems like whenever it flares up, it's been from bouncing on a bumpy road in a work vehicle. He's done a lot of truck driving for a living.
6. No, no other symptoms occur concomitantly.
7. Right now this specific symptom is the only one to report.
[message edited by alaskamom on Sun, 09 Nov 2014 06:34:03 GMT]
alaskamom last decade
ah sorry this went in over the weekend so I didn't see it. Let me look at what you have given me now and see if I can suggest something.
♡ Evocationer last decade
Hmmm...so this isn't an acute at all, but a life-long chronic problem. Treating acutely won't work and could even make this worse.
I need to look at the chronic case again and fit this information into that picture to see what comes up.
I need to look at the chronic case again and fit this information into that picture to see what comes up.
♡ Evocationer last decade
Ok interesting - if I add that information into what I already have, I think I would lean towards APIS as the remedy.
Do you have that remedy at home?
Do you have that remedy at home?
♡ Evocationer last decade
Apis is a fairly common remedy. Get 30c if you can, or 12c if you can't.
♡ Evocationer last decade
Hey I forgot to report that his back pain is much improved on Apis! One dose, a couple weeks ago, and at this point he says his back feels about 85% (100% being no pain at all). That's a pretty big improvement.
alaskamom 9 years ago
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