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PMS, anxiety, depression .....Sepia 30c

Hello,
I am 43, since a child have had anxiety and depressed since a teen. My menstrual has always been irregular till I began Zoloft 10 yrs ago. was on antidepressants for about 4 yrs, worked but made me fat, numbed feelings, lost libido, no motivation. So went off.

In the last 2 yrs my anxiety has been thru the roof, and depression is still lurking although I have managed with natural supplements.

Tried Sepia 30c today. Followed directions on bottle 5 pellets, 3x a day. So far my anxiety has relieved substantially. Much more effective than other supps I have taken. Very happy!

However after taking 2nd dose, I read on this forum that the dosage on bottle is too much! And that too much could cause heart racing and possibly heart attack!

Can someone please advise me how I should proceed with dosing? it's been an hour since second dose and If anything it made me sleepy and I took a much needed nap. I'm still anxiety free. my heart rate is normal.

Do I continue to follow the directions of 5 pellets 3x a day or take only as needed? or stop altogether?
 
  Jlee5 on 2014-06-22
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Pl come to.twice daily for three days then one dose daily for three days .
 
akshaymohl 6 years ago
Is this correct? So for next three days, starting tomorrow, take one dose(5 pellets) 2x morning and evening and then next three days, one dose (5 pellets) 1x morning.

Thankyou for quick reply
[message edited by Jlee5 on Sun, 22 Jun 2014 02:22:48 BST]
 
Jlee5 6 years ago
There is no standard dosing. Dosing is individualised just like selection of the remedy is.

Sepia is NOT a supplement. It is a powerful and deep acting medicine. You should not view it, or treat it, in the same way you would a supplement. It should only be used in accordance with homoeopathic principles - small amounts, repeated only if needed, and a careful eye kept on the exact changes which are happening.

If you have had a marked improvement in your symptoms, I would hold off on further doses until you see what else results from the treatment. Our medicines can have effects which last for days or even weeks after taking them.

Repeated dry doses are also risky in terms of producing side effects - it is advisable to repeat doses only in liquid form not in dry pellets or pillules. You can dissolve the pellets in water and take a few teaspoons out instead of taking them directly in the mouth, after thorough stirring. However the best way to repeat any dose of a homoeopathic medicine is to dissolve 2-3 pellets in a small bottle (with a dropper) in which there is a mixture of water and alcohol (5 parts to 1 part). Hit the bottle firmly against the palm of the hand the same number of times before each dose (I usually start at 3-5). Place a single drop on the tongue.

Hitting of the bottle alters the remedy slightly, which is needed to continue the effectiveness of the treatment with the fewest side effects. You cannot alter the dry doses in this way, and so there is a risk any dose can have a distinctly negative effect.

Where did you read that medicine will produce a heart attack. That seems a bit ridiculous
 
Evocationer 6 years ago
Its from a comment made on the forum right here.

A mother posted of her 14yr old daughter being rushed to emergency and put in ICU because her heart rate went up to 180 after taking 5 pellets of Sepia 30c.
 
Jlee5 6 years ago
I would be interested to see the post. That sounds highly unlikely from a single dose of a homoeopathic medicine. Practically impossible in fact. I have practiced clinical homoeopathy for over 20 years and never seen anything like that happen.

It is hard to say what has happened in that situation, but our medicine is the safest medicine in the world if used correctly.
 
Evocationer 6 years ago
Its dated March 3rd 2013, under the heading 'do your research before putting sepia 30c or any regulated or non regulated drug into your body'.

It seems the mother is convinced her symptoms were from sepia.
 
Jlee5 6 years ago
Actually this post is not something you should believe. The poster claims that the hospital detected the Sepia in her blood, which is completely impossible. Something else was going on here, something the poster was either unaware of or she is neglecting to mention.

Homoeopathic remedies are diluted to a factor extreme, that there is no physical substance left in it. This is the main reason orthodox medicine refuses to believe it has any effect. Therefore for a hospital to claim they could detect it in the child's blood is either an outright lie on the part of the hospital who instead detected some other substance, or the poster themselves have misheard what they were told. Perhaps they were just looking for something to blame, and as often happens homoeopathy becomes a scapegoat because most people don't understand it at all.

I would be very suspect of this post. I doubt that everything that happened was reported, or reported accurately.
 
Evocationer 6 years ago
Thats good to know.

Its a shame that it was posted because it's causing fear in people that could potentially benefit from homeopathy.

Im happy to have found this remedy. I have taken arg, and rhus tox before, directed by a homeopathic doctor before prior to lexapro (3.5 yrs ago)

I havent felt this balanced for almost 2yrs. Since stopping lexapro. Its this unrelenting anxiety that has always been there for no reason. Even at home.

I will take it diluted in water/alcohol like you suggested if I feel a return of symptoms. Is this the same as rubbing alcohol?
 
Jlee5 6 years ago
update for today:

My free floating anxiety has not yet returned.

But I do still have social anxiety. Difficulty speaking in front of others, particulary on microphone. And some depression. I am most comftorable at home.

Should I take more sepia, or should I try another remedy?
 
Jlee5 6 years ago
You need to be more patient with homoeopathy. Our medicines have long lasting effects. Typically you are looking at progress on a weekly basis for chronic complaints, not daily. A remedy should be seen as a catalyst rather than as a drug you need to maintain a particular effect (as nearly every other therapy in the world does). As a catalyst, it begins a kind of cascade throughout your system, which may cause symptoms to worsen before getting better, and it may do this to symptoms in a particular order, or in clusters, over a period of time.

Wait. Observe. Report. That is my advice. Haste ruins good results in homoeopathy.
 
Evocationer 6 years ago
Sepia has really helped with my anxiety. In the last 4 days I have almost never relied on my previous alternative remedies. I am very happy for this.

However, I have lost my libido! The thought is almost repulsive. Is this temporary?

Ive read this happening to a male on this forum. Posted April 23 2009, it was suggested he take onosmodium 1m one dose every week for one month.

Any suggestions?
 
Jlee5 6 years ago

[message deleted by Jlee5 on Wed, 25 Jun 2014 07:56:33 BST]
 
Jlee5 6 years ago
This state will wear off

Just keep waiting and watching and reporting in to Dr. Mohla ( akshaymohl)
 
simone717 6 years ago
thank you
[message edited by Jlee5 on Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:14:31 BST]
 
Jlee5 6 years ago
Loss of libido is probably a side effect of the Sepia, as this is a well known symptom for this remedy. It might have happened for various reasons. If it is only temporary there would be no need to worry. However it is very important if this remains, as it implies the remedy is incorrect for you.
 
Evocationer 6 years ago
I only took 2 dose for 1 day.

If no libido returns and this is wrong remedy, at what length of time would that be a fact? And how do I antidote sepia to get my libido back?
 
Jlee5 6 years ago
It is difficult to say at this point how long it will last. It depends on why it happened.

If it is simply a side effect, these things usually wear off in a few days or weeks. Nothing needs to be done although how the dose is administered might need to be assessed for further treatment.

Occasionally in some sensitive patients these extra symptoms actually remain, and become part of their overall disease picture. In such cases you would need to retake the case, including the new symptoms, and represcribe a different remedy.

Sometimes these symptoms appear because the remedy actually suppressed some or even all of the original symptoms. Suppression blocks the natural outlet for the underlying imbalance in the person's health (the symptoms are actually a vent for the pressure of this imbalance). This pressure will seek out new outlets, thus new symptoms will arise. In this situation, as with almost all situations for homoeopathy, the whole case needs to be retaken, and a new remedy prescribed taking into account the new form of the disease.

Antidoting is only done under specific circumstances, and the guidelines for it are as with everything else, to retake the case.
 
Evocationer 6 years ago
If that is the case then no one should ever self prescribe. Most articles on Internet or elsewhere will say homeopathy is completely safe with 'no side effects'. And it's so easily available, encouraging the user to take it at ease and to even to give to children!

Loosing libido is not a light side effect to add to a remaining disease, as it can destroy a marriage that is already teetering on prior symptoms.

I don't think I'll ever touch a homeopathic remedy again!
 
Jlee5 6 years ago
That's right, nobody who is not trained to use homoeopathy should be prescribing it for chronic complaints. For minor acute complaints there is not usually a problem so for first aid it is quite useful for lay people to apply homoeopathy.

Homoeopathy is not completely safe, nor side effect free, and no real homoeopath every says that. Unfortunately there are a lot of businesses and untrained practitioners who spread that myth, presumably to get customers (or because they simply are ignorant). The reality is that anything with the power to heal also has the power to harm - it is a universal law.

As homoeopaths we do our best to educate people, but the internet is a vast place and it is hard to control the information floating around on it. I am always quick to try and discourage people from self-prescribing for anything serious or chronic.

However, I will say that in terms of toxic side effects there are none of those. This does make it SAFER than many other kinds of medicine.

Used properly, homoeopathy is a powerful tool for healing. I wouldn't avoid it just because you may not have used it correctly - that is a mistake that is often made, and one that is easily corrected with proper prescribing.
 
Evocationer 6 years ago
Well on a good note I do feel a return of libido, but this experience has given me respect for these powerful remedies.

Only with the skill and direction of a professional!!
 
Jlee5 6 years ago
Jlee,

If you want a good homeopath to direct you, check out Mary Aspinwall,
in Santa Barbara, She has decades of experience and will do your case
by phone. There is also a free basic homeopathy book on the right
of her page ( under free stuff) that you can download to get a better
sense of how homeopathy works.

Regards,

Simone717
 
simone717 6 years ago
Thank you for the suggestion. In the past, I took my 5yr old to a homeopath for his reflux issues, and amazingly it helped! That was when I became a believer in this type of healing.
 
Jlee5 6 years ago
Hi- Mary and Lia Bello ( a nurse homeopath )in NM both do acutes with follow up for
$50) by phone, fyi.
 
simone717 6 years ago

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