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Acute respiratory infection - best dilution for children?

Hi,

From what my homeopath doctor told me and from what I've read the proper dilutions for an acute illness are those from 5 to 15 ch. From yours experience this dilutions worked? On my child this lower dilutions works, but I can't see fast improvements. The secretions from the nose, for example, still remain for one or two weeks. Can you help me with this problem?
Thank-you.
 
  aflorea on 2015-01-28
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Actually, my experience for true acute complaints is that 200c is the best potency, although it really is an individual thing not a rule (so that is my experience from my years in clinic).

Potency in homoeopathy is chosen on the basis of various factors:

1. The intensity of the complaint (intense symptoms high potency, low grade symptoms low potency)

2. The strength of the patient's vital force (life energy)(high vitality, high potency; low vitality, low potency). This is often related to the age of the patient, as babies and children are often more vital than adults or the elderly. The elderly typically have much lower vitality and high potencies can have dire consequences for them.

3. The degree of similarity the remedy has to the case (the more peculiar symptoms in the remedy that match the patient, the higher you go; the more common the symptoms, the lower you go)

4. The degree of suppression that has occurred in the case, usually with orthodox medication (things like antidepressants, cortisone, antibiotics etc). The more the case has been suppressed, the lower you should start with potency because typically the body will try to throw out the symptoms that were pushed down, and with high potencies this 'purge' can be dramatic (and painful).

5. The sensitivity of the patient. The more sensitive patients may need lower potencies to begin with until their sensitivity is reduced by the (correct) treatment. Strangely enough, insensitive patients ALSO need low potencies, but for different reasons (the higher potencies tend not to affect them).
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Hi Evocationer,

Thank's a lot for your response.

Can I bother you with my son health problems? He's only one years old and he's been caching cold very easily. All the colds settle in the nose with tendency to get down to the chest.

Thank you again.
I hope to hear from you soon.
Adina
 
aflorea 9 years ago
Sure I can see what I could do to help. I will post a questionnaire for you as soon as I can.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
OK. I will wait for the questionnaire.
Thank you.
 
aflorea 9 years ago
CASE PRESENTATION FOR CLASSICAL HOMOEOPATHIC PRESCRIBING

General Guidelines:

1. Try to be as descriptive as possible. When describing pains or sensations use descriptions along the lines of ‘feels as if someone is squeezing it with their hand’ or ‘it is like an insect crawling around inside’ or ‘it is as if someone is standing over me threatening to kill me’. Long descriptions are always better than short ones. One word answers are difficult to use successfully.

2. Another important part of symptom description for homoeopathy are the ‘modalities’. These are situations, events, activities or conditions which modify the symptom in some way. We usually refer to this as what makes them ‘better’ or ‘worse’ (amelioration/aggravation). The situation may actually provoke the symptom into appearing, make it vanish altogether, or just increase or decrease it in some way. Modalities are vital information for prescribing.

Modalities are typically related to (but not exclusively) the following situations:

A. Temperature, weather
B. Time (day, night, specific times, frequency, periodicity, season)
C. Position, activity
D. Emotions, thoughts
E. Food and drink
F. Drugs, medication

3. How the symptom is perceived is important too – odour, appearance, sound, touch. What colour is it, what is its texture? For gestures, describe what it looks like the patient is doing, or what you feel you are doing while making the movement eg. ‘they look like they are swatting flies’ or ‘I feel like something is pushing my hand upwards’ or ‘it is like I stick a fork in an electrical outlet which throws my body backwards’. Description – it is key to accurate prescriptions.

4. When did the symptom or set of symptoms start? The apparent cause can be useful in determining the remedy, although it is not of the same importance as the previous factors. It may have been a specific event, a disease, an accident or even an emotional experience.

5. Use your own words. Do not copy phrases or descriptions found in our various remedy pictures. Try not to use other people’s ideas or thoughts or words. If you are reporting on behalf of someone else, report their exact words, however you can also report your own observations of them (not opinions).

6. Does the symptom occur alongside another specific symptom? Do particular symptoms only occur together? Does a particular symptom occur with a particular thought or emotion? For example, a headache that always comes with visual disturbances, or stomach pain that appears alongside anger, or anxiety that makes you feel like running down the street screaming.

7. Each complaint should be described fully before going on to describe another complaint. Try not to mix different symptoms or complaints together. Each modifying feature must be clearly attached to a particular symptom/set of symptoms. Any mistake you make here is a mistake the homoeopath will also then make.



BEFORE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SET OF QUESTIONS, DO THIS NOW FOR EACH PHYSICAL PROBLEM YOU HAVE. LOOK AT ANY POSSIBLE SYMPTOM YOU HAVE, NOT JUST THE ONE YOU ARE ASKING FOR HELP IN RESOLVING.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
This is my typical child questionnaire. It is not designed for a particular age group, so some of the questions may not be suitable for him. Answer as much as you can.

Describe each physical complaint/associated set of symptoms in detail. Please include the following when doing this:

1. Appearance
2. Sensation or pain
3. Situations/events/triggers for making it worse
4. Situations/events/triggers for making it better
5. Event that seemed to start the complaint
6. Other sensory features – smell, sound, taste, tactile etc – of the symptom

Make sure each complaint is done separately. Do not group them together. This is for physical complaints/diseases rather than mental or emotional problems.

Symptoms may be divided into three categories:

1. Symptoms which they more or less have all the time
2. Symptoms which appear as ‘acute’ things but have appeared more than once
3. Symptoms which have appeared for the first time.

Make sure you clearly divide the symptoms into these three groups.


MENTAL STATE OF THE CHILD (IMPORTANT)

1. When the physical complaint is active, what is his/her emotional state like? What does he/she do? What does she/he want you to do?

2. Does he/she describe any unusual sensation or pain in the body, especially when they are complaining of something?

3. What fears does he/she have? How does she/he react?

4. Was there any incident in the past that had a great impact? What happened at the time? Is there any ongoing reaction to this event? How does he/she talk about it?

5. Is there any story (book, fairytale, cartoon, movie etc) that seems to really resonate with her/him? What does he/she say about it?

6. What kind of fantasies does she/he describe to you? How does this translate down into play, games, toys? Does he/she tend to draw particular things over and over? If so what are they? If you point to these images, what does she/he say about them?

7. Does he/she describe any dreams or nightmares to you, and what are they? How does she/he react on waking from them?

8. How is he/she when interacting with other children? What about sports or games? How about obeying rules or social conventions?

9. How is she/he when interacting with older people? Is there any difference between family or friends and strangers in terms of reactions and behavior?

10. What kind of activities does he/she enjoy doing? Which of these do she/he spend the most time at?

11. What qualities seem to make your child different from other children?

12. How does your child cope with school, school work, study, deadlines, speaking in front of others, following directions etc?

13. What kind of questions does he/she tend to ask you or other adults?

14. What makes her/him laugh? What makes him/her cry?

15. What makes him/her angry or irritable?

16. What does your child do when alone?

17. Is there a particular person or type of person that he/she reacts to, and what kind of reaction?


GENERAL STATE OF YOUR CHILD

1. What position does he/she sleep in?
2. Is there any position he/she seems unable to sleep in?
3. Any unusual behaviour during sleep?
4. Any problems with sleep?
5. What foods are craved (cravings are strong desires) What foods are hated?
6. What drinks are craved? What drinks are hated?
7. How does he/she react when hungry, or hunger is prolonged?
8. How does the weather affect?
9. How does the temperature affect?
10. Are there any other environmental influences negative or positive (season, noise, music, moon, light, dark, day, night, time, smells etc.)
11. Problems with stool or bowel habit?
Problems with urine or bladder habit?
12. Where does he/she sweat most? Does it stain or smell unusual?
13. Has she/he reacted to any medical treatment in the past in a strong or negative way?

PREGNANCY AND BIRTH

1. What kind of health problems occurred while you were pregnant with your child?

2. Were there any other stresses or traumas that occurred?

3. Did the birth itself have any problems?

4. Do you remember if any symptoms occurred suddenly during pregnancy that then vanished after your child was born? Especially important are any emotional or mental changes during this time.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Hi Evocationer,

Thank you for the questionnaire. I will complete it and send it back to you as soon as I can.
Adina
 
aflorea 9 years ago
Hi Evocationer.

Below is the completed questionnaire. I hope my English is correct and I have made myself understood.
Thank you again for your time and for your attention.

1. Appearance
He is a well proportioned boy, not fat and not skinny. Normal height for his age (1 year old). He has a round and light face. Blonde hair, sparkling dark brown eyes. He flushes on cold weather and if he feels warm. Happy child, very sociable, smile a lot, even to strangers. Teethe looks strong, big and flat.

2. Sensation or pain
A. Painful teething - Restless sleep, getting up crying for many times in a night, biting things, toys .

B. He has an eczema below the neck, to the right side, that sometimes seems to give him an itch. The eczema appeared around 2 or 3 month ago.

C. Nose - He has a cold from two weeks ago, and the nose it's still full of secretions that I can't get out only with the help of physiological serum, see water and the nasal aspirator.

D. Cough from the secretions of the nose that I can't manage to get them out with the nasal aspirator.

E. Constantly ears discharge - probably wax.

F. Eyes - lacrimation.

G. Enlarge tonsils from around 7 month old.

H. A lot of saliva.

I. Sometimes the skin around the anus and genital organs is red.

J. Constantly great thirst for large quantity of tea, not water.



3. Situations/events/triggers for making it worse

A. Night - While teething he get up crying and fall asleep back hard or falling asleep again after an our or two.
Day - sometime nervous.

B. Eczema seems to become very red while and after bathing - warm room and warm water.

C. Discharge from nose increased on warm room, when taking a bath. Stuffed up nose during sleep.

D. Cough:
- loose after waking up and moving into the house;
- much more inside the house, than outside.

E. Much more ears discharge when he has a cold with running nose.

F. Eyes: lacrimation only in cold air, cold win.

H. Salivation increased while teething and when he has a stuffed up nose and he breath through his mouth.

I. While teething the stool is sour. He can not eat citric fruits because his stool and urine burn his skin.


4. Situations/events/triggers for making it better

A. He like to bite things, toys. Caring him in my arms make him feel better.

C. - Not so much discharge from the nose when he is outside the house - it's winter now.
- No discharge in the night or while sleeping.

D. - He does not cough while he is taking a bath - warm and whet room.
- Cough less outside in the fresh air.
- No cough in the night.


5. Event that seemed to start the complaint:

B. I had an eczema located below the neck and it appeared while I was on a treatment with antibiotics for streptococcus pyogenes. After a few days the eczema appeared on his neck too, so I though that he took it from me. He also took penicillin, but 2 weeks before the eczema appeared on his neck.

C. One month ago he took some tests and he had streptococcus pneumoniae in the nose. I gave him streptoccocinum 30 ch for 4 days. I do not know if he still have that streptococcus in the nose.
Two weeks ago he took a cold that started with sneezing and watery nose discharged. His nose is with discharge since than. The secretions changed their consistency. Now are yellow and their are behind nostrils, making him to cough.
From the blood test the doctor said that he has an ALLERGIC predisposition. We've made those investigations because he was constantly coughing from September 2014. The doctor said to me that he probably had chronic bronchitis so I give him at that time Kalium bichromicum 30ch for 5 days, followed by Antimonium Tartaricum 15 ch for 2 days. The cough disappeared after Ant. Tart. He was healthy for 2 weeks.

E. Ears discharge - at 5 month old he had bronchitis and some ears complains. (I can tell for sure that he had Otitis media, because the doctor said that the ears were inflamed, but no other symptoms, no fever). At that time I give him ear drops with antibiotics and cortisone). Since that moment the ears have a glue-gold discharge constantly, increased while the nose is full of secretions.

G and H. Salivation and Enlarge Tonsils - at 6 month and a half old he had an "atypical virosis" - doctor words. 5 days with high fever and increased salivation, nose stuffed up. After five days of fever the doctor prescribed him an antibiotics considering that he probably had urinary infection. The next day the fever stopped but he had an skin eruption: the eruption was on the limbs and on the body like a rash and the skin was intense red and shiny. He took some blood test that showed that was no infection. We stopped the antibiotic. The next day the the rash disappeared. The doctor said that the skin eruption was not as a reaction to the antibiotics. Another doctor said to me that he probably had "Roseola infantis" . Coincidence or not after one week our neighbor girl had "Roseola infantis" - diagnostic doctor. After a few days he had chicken pox. Some times during this two infections I think that his tonsils get enlarge and stayed enlarge since than. (until than the doctors didn't told me nothing about his tonsils).
The colds did not settle on the throat or tonsils, just only one cold (red throat, low fever that lasted more than 4 days) - at the same time my daughter had pus on the throat and I had streptoccocus pyogenes in the throat.


I. Skin - he had atopic dermatitis at one month old. Considering that the doctor said last month he is an allergic subject, I guess that his is sensible on what he eats.


6. Other sensory features – smell, sound, taste, tactile etc – of the symptom

B. Eczema - rough, rose - red

C. Nose: secretions thick, yellow.

D. Cough: loose, sound hard, full.

E. Ears: discharge glue-gold.

H. The saliva taste and smell sour while teething.

I. Stool sour while teething.


Make sure each complaint is done separately. Do not group them together. This is for physical complaints/diseases rather than mental or emotional problems.

Symptoms may be divided into three categories:

1. Symptoms which they more or less have all the time
2. Symptoms which appear as ‘acute’ things but have appeared more than once
3. Symptoms which have appeared for the first time.

Make sure you clearly divide the symptoms into these three groups.


MENTAL STATE OF THE CHILD (IMPORTANT)

1. When the physical complaint is active, what is his/her emotional state like? What does he/she do? What does she/he want you to do?
A. While teething he likes company, he want to caring him in my arms. He is nervous, throw the toys if he can't manage to do what he want.

C. Nose full of secretions - a little weeping, looking for me, does not want anyone else.

E. Some time he dangle his arm around the ears. I guess he feels some pain in that moment.

I. When the stool is sour and burn his skin he cries, is very irritable and he is looking for me, does not want anyone else.

j. If he is thirsting he is constantly moving around the house, not knowing what he wants, looking for me and restless into my arms. At this moment he drink the hole bottle of tea. He cries if it's not enough.


2. Does he/she describe any unusual sensation or pain in the body, especially when they are complaining of something?
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3. What fears does he/she have? How does she/he react?
Fear of large animals: cows, horses, sheep.


4. Was there any incident in the past that had a great impact? What happened at the time? Is there any ongoing reaction to this event? How does he/she talk about it?
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5. Is there any story (book, fairytale, cartoon, movie etc) that seems to really resonate with her/him? What does he/she say about it?
He's attention it's caught up by Mickey Mouse Club cartoon. He smile at this cartoon. If the TV it's on he like to stare at it.


6. What kind of fantasies does she/he describe to you? How does this translate down into play, games, toys? Does he/she tend to draw particular things over and over? If so what are they? If you point to these images, what does she/he say about them?
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7. Does he/she describe any dreams or nightmares to you, and what are they? How does she/he react on waking from them?
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8. How is he/she when interacting with other children? What about sports or games? How about obeying rules or social conventions?
Very friendly, he likes older children. If I told him to stop doing what he's doing, he does not listen to me (or to his father), he repeat it and he smiles. If his grandparents told him, he listen and obey.

9. How is she/he when interacting with older people? Is there any difference between family or friends and strangers in terms of reactions and behavior?

He smiles at all strangers, including older people with a little tendency to hide from them. When he sees her grandparents for the first time in that day he cries to be take into their arms. He climbs on them, if he is not taken in their arms.

10. What kind of activities does he/she enjoy doing? Which of these do she/he spend the most time at?
He likes to walk into the house constantly, he's restless, he plays a little bit with everything that he find interesting, with few exception (he spend more time with toys that sings, things that make noises, witch can be open and closed, or can be put into his mouth).

11. What qualities seem to make your child different from other children?
Easy learner, very sociable, very curios. Mumble, speaking in his language a lot.


12. How does your child cope with school, school work, study, deadlines, speaking in front of others, following directions etc?
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13. What kind of questions does he/she tend to ask you or other adults?
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14. What makes her/him laugh? What makes him/her cry?
Laugh - Dancing, moving fast in front of him, making faces - especially if all this are made by his sister.
Cry - taking something from his hands, not letting him do what he wants to do. If he wants to be carried and you ignore him.

15. What makes him/her angry or irritable?
His irritate if he can not reach to what he want. Sometime irritate if he can not do what he want, ex. putting a toy in his hole.

16. What does your child do when alone?
Some time he plays alone ( I think that is when he has no physical complain), but most of the time he's looking for company. When he is alone with his toys he like to play while another toys make noise, like singing. He has a Winnie the pooh toy that tell stories and he sings, and he like to hear him while he's playing with another toy.


17. Is there a particular person or type of person that he/she reacts to, and what kind of reaction?
He likes men's. Even he does not know them to well he goes to them and want to be take into their arms.


GENERAL STATE OF YOUR CHILD

1. What position does he/she sleep in?
In all positions. When something butter him (teething, colds) he sleeps better on his tummy, sometime with his bottom up.

2. Is there any position he/she seems unable to sleep in?
No.

3. Any unusual behavior during sleep?
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4. Any problems with sleep?
He has a restless sleep since he was born. He wake up a lot, sometimes from 30 min to 30 min. He toss a lot in his bed. He wakes up crying during sleep and he cannot sleep back if I don't take him in my arms. While teething he wake up in the night, around 4 hours after he go to bed and he can not sleep only after 1 or 2 ours. He still wakes up for a bottle of milk, around 2 o.clock.
During day he sleep very well, uninterrupted for 2 or 3 ours.

5. What foods are craved (cravings are strong desires) What foods are hated?
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6. What drinks are craved? What drinks are hated?
I think he craves for tea.


7. How does he/she react when hungry, or hunger is prolonged?
He's restless, whiny or irritable.

8. How does the weather affect?
I think that cold and wet weather make him a runny nose.

9. How does the temperature affect?
-


10. Are there any other environmental influences negative or positive (season, noise, music, moon, light, dark, day, night, time, smells etc.)
-

11. Problems with stool or bowel habit?
-

Problems with urine or bladder habit?
-

12. Where does he/she sweat most? Does it stain or smell unusual?
He sweet on the head only when I am falling in sleep with him in my arms and he stay to much in my arms.

13. Has she/he reacted to any medical treatment in the past in a strong or negative way?
Vaccination - fever after vaccination for one day; not to high temperature.


PREGNANCY AND BIRTH

1. What kind of health problems occurred while you were pregnant with your child?
In the second semester I was very weak - on blood analysis come out that I had iron deficiency. Colds with a lot of dry cough. Gastric acidity, grate bloating. At the end of the pregnancy I have had Candidiasis.
A lot of false labor contractions during pregnancy - I took a lot of time caulophyllum 5 ch.

2. Were there any other stresses or traumas that occurred?
No.

3. Did the birth itself have any problems?
No.

4. Do you remember if any symptoms occurred suddenly during pregnancy that then vanished after your child was born? Especially important are any emotional or mental changes during this time.
No.
[message edited by aflorea on Sun, 01 Feb 2015 21:06:37 GMT]
 
aflorea 9 years ago
Ok I will look over this information today.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Hi Evocationer,

I write you in case this last information will help you find the right remedy for my son. I gave him chamomilla 30 ch because he was not able to sleep through the night. He was waking up from half to half hour crying and he couldn't get back to sleep. After 3 days he sleeps better, still waking up crying in the night but not so often and he manage to fall asleep alone or with his pacifier.
I'me not sure but I think that chamomilla helped him a little with his cough too - not so often and not so much secretion in the nose that I have to remove with the nasal aspirator.

Thank you for your time.
Adina
 
aflorea 9 years ago
Also he is much more calm and happier during the day.
 
aflorea 9 years ago
Interesting - well I would actually continue with that for the time being. How much better is he overall? Is it the improvement continuing each day?
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Hi Evocationer,

The improvements are on his sleep, state of mind, nose secretion and cough. He still have intense salivation with sour taste, sour respiration. The eczema is the same. No change in the tonsils and he still have that lacrimation in the cold air.

About the improvements:

Yesterday he was much more happier during the first part of the day, but in the evening he was again weeping and a little unhappy.
He was also weeping in this morning, but after one hour he was OK.


Last night he tossed in his bed a lot, but he was not waked up crying only for two times.

Other changes:
Since I been giving him chamomilla he wake up in the morning with an hour earlier than he used to do. I guess he is much more rested than before.
Yesterday and in this morning once or twice his cough ended with sneezing. This is a symptom that he used to have when he had that chronic bronchitis.
It seems that he has much more secretion in the left nostril than in his right.

Overall I could say that he had a great improvement in his sleep and state of mind.
On his nose secretion I'm not so sure that is a significant
improvement.

I will keep observe him and keep you informed, if that is OK for you.
 
aflorea 9 years ago
I forget something. He is still sleeping with his mouth open.
 
aflorea 9 years ago
Hello again,

During this day he didn't had so much nose secretion and he coughed less to. Outside he had tears only from his left eye.
Overall I could say that the improvement is continuing each day.
However, in this 4 days with chamomilla was no change in his salivation, eczema or tonsils.
 
aflorea 9 years ago
How many doses has he had?
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
30ch two times for day, so 8 doses.
Now he waked up with fever. My daughter and my husband had a cold virus with fever and joints pain. I guess he toked that virus.
 
aflorea 9 years ago
That is way too many doses! 3 doses maximum of 30c - he may have had too much now. Stop immediately and wait several days for things to calm down.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
How should I handle with this flu? His nose it's ruining now and he cough more. I am sure that it's the virus that was in my family because my husband is still sick. Should I gave him an allopathic treatment?
 
aflorea 9 years ago
Hi Dr. Kempson,

we went to the doctor and he sad he has pus on the tonsils. He prescribed him antibiotics. I have told him that we will try a homeopathic treatment. He said that we can wait until tomorrow to see if his fever will past. Can you help me in this problem. My homeopath usually prescribe us mercurius sol. 9ch for pus. I am not sure that it will work until tommorow.
 
aflorea 9 years ago
You probably won't be able to proceed with 2 homoeopaths managing the case. If you wish to follow the other partitioner's advice that is fine, but trying to follow both will only end up in trouble with opposing or competing medicines prescribed.

The normal reaction to a homoeopath medicine (prescribed correctly) is an aggravation of the symptoms, especially the physical ones. If the internal state (mentals, emotionals) improve while those physical ones worsen, this is usually a good sign (direction of cure - things move from the inside outwards).

Of course, I don't know if Chamomilla is the right remedy for him as I didn't analyse the case as yet. It's hard to know exactly what has happened.

If you want to take the Mercurius let me know how things pan out and if you want to transfer management of his case to me.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Hi Evocationer,

I thought that you are no longer interested of my son case. Thank-you for your last response.
I needed help urgent last time, last week, because his state was getting worse, he took a bad cold that was in my family.
Meantime my son has been seen by two physicians. The first one sad that he has pus on the tonsils, as I written on the last message. I waited for your response and than I gave him Mercurius 30ch - 3 doses. If not I probably had to gave him the antibiotic. But this wasn't necessary. His fever stopped and he was feeling better. No pus on the tonsils. But after 3 days, on Monday exactly, his cough increased and his left ear was red. On the afternoon he had again fever. The next day I went to the other physician because I needed to watch at his ear to. Diagnostic: acute otitis and chronic bronchitis (considering his history of cough).
The doctor said that he probably still have the streptococcus pneumoniae in the nose and this is the cause of his otitis and his running nose. I didn't had the courage to write you back and wait for your response, and meanwhile to do not give him no treatment. The doctor sad to me that I have to decide If I treat him allopath or homeopath. So he is on an allopath treatment now. He is taking antibiotic to. This doctor said that we have to go further with the investigations to see what is causing him the allergy.
I do want you to help us because I know that the allopathic treatment is just one for the moment and the problems will repeat with his every cold. But I had to start a treatment, I couldn't wait for your response at that moment.
I thought that I will contact you after he will finish this treatment to see if you still want to help us. I guess that the allergy cause will also help you to find his right remedy.
Thank-you again.
Adina
 
aflorea 9 years ago
Hi Evocationer,

The blood tests showed a very low allergy to the egg-white. No other allergies. He is still on the antibiotics.
Are you still interesting in my son case?
 
aflorea 9 years ago
Of course. Has he been taking the Merc though?
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Yes, i gave him mercurius around 10 days ago. He is only on allopathic treatment now. Symptoms changed. I should probably fill in the questionnaire again.
 
aflorea 9 years ago

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