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Depression in teen
My 17 year old son is depressed and acting erratically, out of character, and has anger outbursts. He has changed from a very loving son to someone who is angry, depressed, always running away and wanting to "go out", rejecting the family he was previously very attached to, being nasty and mean when confronted, denying he is doing anything out of the ordinary or blaming his almost violent anger outbursts on someone else doing something that isn't right, refuses to talk and connect anymore where previously we were very very close, he is very restless (always has been, but when younger it wasn't a problem...now he sometimes will just drive around to be "out of the house".), he has turned his back on his brother and sister and become extremely self centered and selfish and no longer the loving person he was. He is severely depressed, there are some other issues in the home that contributed, but he will not deal with them or admit to anything that he does, he is deceitful, but denies being so. He is arrogant and feels self important. He views others with disdain. We cannot work on any of these problems because he either denies them or becomes angry out of proportion to the issue if someone even asks the wrong question of. him, and says we are attacking him. He has always been intense and prone to anxiety and mild depression, but this betrayal of everything he once was is new within the past 2 years. His moods are extremely changeable, and he is very charming when we don't talk about any problems and he is getting what he wants. He manipulates people and I don't believe he knows what he is doing. He can be cheerful one moment, but one little thing goes wrong and he goes wild and threatens to leave and never come back, attacks the other person as if they have done something wrong even when it is just normal disagreements. His reactions are out of proportion to the issue. He refuses to discuss any of this with anyone as he feels so surely that he is right, and that his actions and attitude and words are completely and totally justified. I know that most of his problems are related to depression. He was always such a loving, attached, thoughtful, kind person. He tells me that certain foods he eats make him more depressed, but he doesn't stop eating them. Sometimes the foods will make him feel like crying, and he tells me that he just blasts music and runs around to make the pain of everything stop for a little while. All of these things are out of character for him and I want to help him be happy and at least be able to admit what he is doing to others and that he needs to be able to sit calmly and discuss issues without attacking someone else. In the past, you could talk to him, but his level of defiance and arrogance that he is always right has increased to the point that we can get nowhere. He refuses to talk about it and wants to pretend nothing is wrong and he is always on edge and so are we because we don't know when the wrong question will put him over the edge to acting violently angry again to the point of getting physical. He has developed a disinterest in his family due to his depression so he is always looking for something to do to distract him. I tried using the Remedy Finder but it was very difficult to distinguish between the few remedies that came up. He is open to help as he wants his old life back and not to feel disconnected from his family and those that love him.smpwk on 2020-10-11
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pls send me following detail...
age/male-female child
wt height
• K/C/O
• Investigations :
• Chief C/O: [Duration is important. e.g. Abdominal pain since 8 days.etc.
• H/o C/C
Onset, decline, causation.
Side
Location & Extension.
Character of Pain.
Duration of Pain.
Sensation.
Modalities : Movements / Positions / Food Habits / Seasonal /
Time
Concomitant.
• PAST HISTORY :
ï¾ H/O Mother History during pregnancy
ï¾ Mode of delivery.
ï¾ Immediately cried or not.
ï¾ H/O Milestones (talking/walking)
ï¾ H/O Vaccinations
ï¾ H/O Illness
• IDENTIFY
SOCIABILITY-
Approach/Withdrawal/Adaptability/
ACTIVITY -
Level of Activity
Threshold of responsiveness(sensitivity)touch/taste/smell/hearing/vision)
Intensity of Reaction
Rhythmicity
Distractibility
Attention Span & Persistance
AGRESSION (Destructive /Non Destructive)-
RESPONSE TO STIMULI-
• PHYSICAL GENERALS :
THIRST
ï ï • Habit :
Eg.
ï¾ Nail Biting .
ï¾ Thumb sucking.
ï¾ Putting anything in mouth.
ï¾ Hair Rattling.
• All remaining things are same as for the adults.( Diet, appetite….etc.)
• MIASM :
• PHYSICAL CONSTITUTION
• MIND
ï¾ Family –Joint/Nuclear
ï¾ Financial condition of family.
ï¾ About studies
ï¾ Nature-Mild / Short Tempered / Obstinate / Pampered / Irritable.
ï¾ Angry When ? How is it expressed?
ï¾ Talkative / Reserved.
ï¾ Submissive?
ï¾ Timid / Daring.
ï¾ Close to Whom?
ï¾ Fears?
ï¾ Carrying :
ï¾ Precocity?
ï¾ Desires for company or not.
ï¾ Hobbies : Music / Dancing / Playing.
ï¾ Dominating.
ï¾ Active / Passive.
ï¾ Decisive / Indecisive.
ï¾ Stage Fear?
ï¾ Performance
ï¾ Happy / Sad When?
ï¾ Reaction to jesting, Criticism.
ï¾ Envy Feeling.
ï¾ Religious or not.
ï¾ Memory.
ï¾ Lazy, Fastidious.
ï¾ Subject of interest / Difficulty.
Thermals: Summer Winter
• Bathing Hot / Cold / Luke Warm Hot / Cold / Luke Warm
• Fanning requires or not? requires or not?
• Covering Thick / Thin? (1 or 2,etc) Thick / Thin? (1 or 2,etc)
• Open air : desires or not
• Require Sweater in Winter ?
• Chills begin from which part?
Fever
ï§ Temperature
ï§ Heat
ï§ Perspiration –Mostly on which part of body.
ï§ Chills
ï§ Thirst during fever.
• Active / inactive
age/male-female child
wt height
• K/C/O
• Investigations :
• Chief C/O: [Duration is important. e.g. Abdominal pain since 8 days.etc.
• H/o C/C
Onset, decline, causation.
Side
Location & Extension.
Character of Pain.
Duration of Pain.
Sensation.
Modalities : Movements / Positions / Food Habits / Seasonal /
Time
Concomitant.
• PAST HISTORY :
ï¾ H/O Mother History during pregnancy
ï¾ Mode of delivery.
ï¾ Immediately cried or not.
ï¾ H/O Milestones (talking/walking)
ï¾ H/O Vaccinations
ï¾ H/O Illness
• IDENTIFY
SOCIABILITY-
Approach/Withdrawal/Adaptability/
ACTIVITY -
Level of Activity
Threshold of responsiveness(sensitivity)touch/taste/smell/hearing/vision)
Intensity of Reaction
Rhythmicity
Distractibility
Attention Span & Persistance
AGRESSION (Destructive /Non Destructive)-
RESPONSE TO STIMULI-
• PHYSICAL GENERALS :
THIRST
ï ï • Habit :
Eg.
ï¾ Nail Biting .
ï¾ Thumb sucking.
ï¾ Putting anything in mouth.
ï¾ Hair Rattling.
• All remaining things are same as for the adults.( Diet, appetite….etc.)
• MIASM :
• PHYSICAL CONSTITUTION
• MIND
ï¾ Family –Joint/Nuclear
ï¾ Financial condition of family.
ï¾ About studies
ï¾ Nature-Mild / Short Tempered / Obstinate / Pampered / Irritable.
ï¾ Angry When ? How is it expressed?
ï¾ Talkative / Reserved.
ï¾ Submissive?
ï¾ Timid / Daring.
ï¾ Close to Whom?
ï¾ Fears?
ï¾ Carrying :
ï¾ Precocity?
ï¾ Desires for company or not.
ï¾ Hobbies : Music / Dancing / Playing.
ï¾ Dominating.
ï¾ Active / Passive.
ï¾ Decisive / Indecisive.
ï¾ Stage Fear?
ï¾ Performance
ï¾ Happy / Sad When?
ï¾ Reaction to jesting, Criticism.
ï¾ Envy Feeling.
ï¾ Religious or not.
ï¾ Memory.
ï¾ Lazy, Fastidious.
ï¾ Subject of interest / Difficulty.
Thermals: Summer Winter
• Bathing Hot / Cold / Luke Warm Hot / Cold / Luke Warm
• Fanning requires or not? requires or not?
• Covering Thick / Thin? (1 or 2,etc) Thick / Thin? (1 or 2,etc)
• Open air : desires or not
• Require Sweater in Winter ?
• Chills begin from which part?
Fever
ï§ Temperature
ï§ Heat
ï§ Perspiration –Mostly on which part of body.
ï§ Chills
ï§ Thirst during fever.
• Active / inactive
♡ deoshlok 4 years ago
ge/male-female child 17 years old. male
wt height Approx. 190 pounds. 6 feet 4 inches tall
• K/C/O
• Investigations :
• Chief C/O: [Duration is important. e.g. Abdominal pain since 8 days.etc.
• H/o C/C
Onset, decline, causation.
Side
Location & Extension.
Character of Pain.
Duration of Pain.
Sensation.
Modalities : Movements / Positions / Food Habits / Seasonal /
Time
Concomitant.
• PAST HISTORY :
ï¾ H/O Mother History during pregnancy Mother has depression/anxiety during childhood/adulthood/pregnancy.
ï¾ Mode of delivery. Caesarean section
ï¾ Immediately cried or not. yes. he was tense and irritable at birth. Difficulty eating and sleeping and resting. Acid reflux from birth. Restless/irritable as toddler.
ï¾ H/O Milestones (talking/walking) Normal
ï¾ H/O Vaccinations All vaccinations up until 2 years old that are typical for USA
ï¾ H/O Illness
• IDENTIFY
SOCIABILITY-
Approach/Withdrawal/Adaptability/ As a toddler had very anxious attachment and severe separation anxiety. Had trouble going to school because of this. He is much more social now....but to an extreme now as he uses this as a form of stimulation for his restlessness and cannot be without his phone/socializing even for a few minutes and even sleeps with his phone on his bed. Constantly checking/etc.
ACTIVITY -
Level of Activity He is highly active until he collapse in exhaustion
Threshold of responsiveness(sensitivity)touch/taste/smell/hearing/vision)
Intensity of Reaction
Rhythmicity Not rhythmic
Distractibility Can focus well on school work, but distracted with constant thoughts of "what comes next". What can I do next? What can I buy, etc.
Attention Span & Persistance Extremely persistent
AGRESSION (Destructive /Non Destructive)- Sometimes he is destructive when he gets angry. He jumps to extreme anger very quickly when even a perceived slight. Sweet when everything is going well, but can become nasty and mean very quickly over almost nothing.
RESPONSE TO STIMULI-
• PHYSICAL GENERALS :
THIRST EXCESSIVE thirst that cannot be quenched
ï ï • Habit :
Eg.
ï¾ Nail Biting .
ï¾ Thumb sucking.
ï¾ Putting anything in mouth. Constantly chewing on something....shirt/necklace, etc.
ï¾ Hair Rattling.
• All remaining things are same as for the adults.( Diet, appetite….etc.)
• MIASM :
• PHYSICAL CONSTITUTION
• MIND
ï¾ Family –Joint/Nuclear Nuclear family. 2 sisters and 1 brother and 2 parents
ï¾ Financial condition of family. Middle class/comfortable
ï¾ About studies
ï¾ Nature-Mild / Short Tempered / Obstinate / Pampered / Irritable. charming/kind/irritable at the same time
ï¾ Angry When ? How is it expressed? Angry when he can't have someone paying attention to him/someone disagrees with him/he becomes cruel in his words and sometimes has a "tantrum" that can involve hitting a wall, running away, threatening to leave and never come back, saying incredibly nasty things to the people he loved that are extremely painful and cruel....
ï¾ Talkative / Reserved. Talkative
ï¾ Submissive? No...he respects authority but is headstrong
ï¾ Timid / Daring. Daring
ï¾ Close to Whom? Closest to his mother.
ï¾ Fears? Being alone
ï¾ Carrying :
ï¾ Precocity? Very very bright
ï¾ Desires for company or not. ALWAYS
ï¾ Hobbies : Music / Dancing / Playing. He used to enjoy reading, playing piano, playing sports, but he has lost those as they aren't "stimulating" enough anymore and he requires high stimulation at all times.
ï¾ Dominating. sometimes.
ï¾ Active / Passive. Active
ï¾ Decisive / Indecisive. Very decisive and cannot be swayed without him lashing out and becoming angry
ï¾ Stage Fear?
ï¾ Performance Likes attention
ï¾ Happy / Sad When? Mostly happy but only when can get his constant stimulation
ï¾ Reaction to jesting, Criticism. Good natured if someone is joking
ï¾ Envy Feeling. No
ï¾ Religious or not. Has become obsessed with a religious family and cannot let go of it. KNOWS that they are right and everyone else is wrong and cannot be talked to about it without getting angry, Obsessive about it and feels that ONLY his religion is the right one and everyone else is wrong
ï¾ Memory. Good memory
ï¾ Lazy, Fastidious. In his work, yes. In his home, no
ï¾ Subject of interest / Difficulty.
Thermals: Summer Winter
• Bathing Hot / Cold / Luke Warm Hot / Cold / Luke Warm
• Fanning requires or not? requires or not? Always warm and prefers the cold for that reason
• Covering Thick / Thin? (1 or 2,etc) Thick / Thin? (1 or 2,etc)
• Open air : desires or not YES. happiest outdoors and resents being in the home
• Require Sweater in Winter ? YEs. but no coat even on coldest days
• Chills begin from which part?
Fever
ï§ Temperature
ï§ Heat
ï§ Perspiration –Mostly on which part of body.
ï§ Chills
ï§ Thirst during fever.
• Active / inactive
wt height Approx. 190 pounds. 6 feet 4 inches tall
• K/C/O
• Investigations :
• Chief C/O: [Duration is important. e.g. Abdominal pain since 8 days.etc.
• H/o C/C
Onset, decline, causation.
Side
Location & Extension.
Character of Pain.
Duration of Pain.
Sensation.
Modalities : Movements / Positions / Food Habits / Seasonal /
Time
Concomitant.
• PAST HISTORY :
ï¾ H/O Mother History during pregnancy Mother has depression/anxiety during childhood/adulthood/pregnancy.
ï¾ Mode of delivery. Caesarean section
ï¾ Immediately cried or not. yes. he was tense and irritable at birth. Difficulty eating and sleeping and resting. Acid reflux from birth. Restless/irritable as toddler.
ï¾ H/O Milestones (talking/walking) Normal
ï¾ H/O Vaccinations All vaccinations up until 2 years old that are typical for USA
ï¾ H/O Illness
• IDENTIFY
SOCIABILITY-
Approach/Withdrawal/Adaptability/ As a toddler had very anxious attachment and severe separation anxiety. Had trouble going to school because of this. He is much more social now....but to an extreme now as he uses this as a form of stimulation for his restlessness and cannot be without his phone/socializing even for a few minutes and even sleeps with his phone on his bed. Constantly checking/etc.
ACTIVITY -
Level of Activity He is highly active until he collapse in exhaustion
Threshold of responsiveness(sensitivity)touch/taste/smell/hearing/vision)
Intensity of Reaction
Rhythmicity Not rhythmic
Distractibility Can focus well on school work, but distracted with constant thoughts of "what comes next". What can I do next? What can I buy, etc.
Attention Span & Persistance Extremely persistent
AGRESSION (Destructive /Non Destructive)- Sometimes he is destructive when he gets angry. He jumps to extreme anger very quickly when even a perceived slight. Sweet when everything is going well, but can become nasty and mean very quickly over almost nothing.
RESPONSE TO STIMULI-
• PHYSICAL GENERALS :
THIRST EXCESSIVE thirst that cannot be quenched
ï ï • Habit :
Eg.
ï¾ Nail Biting .
ï¾ Thumb sucking.
ï¾ Putting anything in mouth. Constantly chewing on something....shirt/necklace, etc.
ï¾ Hair Rattling.
• All remaining things are same as for the adults.( Diet, appetite….etc.)
• MIASM :
• PHYSICAL CONSTITUTION
• MIND
ï¾ Family –Joint/Nuclear Nuclear family. 2 sisters and 1 brother and 2 parents
ï¾ Financial condition of family. Middle class/comfortable
ï¾ About studies
ï¾ Nature-Mild / Short Tempered / Obstinate / Pampered / Irritable. charming/kind/irritable at the same time
ï¾ Angry When ? How is it expressed? Angry when he can't have someone paying attention to him/someone disagrees with him/he becomes cruel in his words and sometimes has a "tantrum" that can involve hitting a wall, running away, threatening to leave and never come back, saying incredibly nasty things to the people he loved that are extremely painful and cruel....
ï¾ Talkative / Reserved. Talkative
ï¾ Submissive? No...he respects authority but is headstrong
ï¾ Timid / Daring. Daring
ï¾ Close to Whom? Closest to his mother.
ï¾ Fears? Being alone
ï¾ Carrying :
ï¾ Precocity? Very very bright
ï¾ Desires for company or not. ALWAYS
ï¾ Hobbies : Music / Dancing / Playing. He used to enjoy reading, playing piano, playing sports, but he has lost those as they aren't "stimulating" enough anymore and he requires high stimulation at all times.
ï¾ Dominating. sometimes.
ï¾ Active / Passive. Active
ï¾ Decisive / Indecisive. Very decisive and cannot be swayed without him lashing out and becoming angry
ï¾ Stage Fear?
ï¾ Performance Likes attention
ï¾ Happy / Sad When? Mostly happy but only when can get his constant stimulation
ï¾ Reaction to jesting, Criticism. Good natured if someone is joking
ï¾ Envy Feeling. No
ï¾ Religious or not. Has become obsessed with a religious family and cannot let go of it. KNOWS that they are right and everyone else is wrong and cannot be talked to about it without getting angry, Obsessive about it and feels that ONLY his religion is the right one and everyone else is wrong
ï¾ Memory. Good memory
ï¾ Lazy, Fastidious. In his work, yes. In his home, no
ï¾ Subject of interest / Difficulty.
Thermals: Summer Winter
• Bathing Hot / Cold / Luke Warm Hot / Cold / Luke Warm
• Fanning requires or not? requires or not? Always warm and prefers the cold for that reason
• Covering Thick / Thin? (1 or 2,etc) Thick / Thin? (1 or 2,etc)
• Open air : desires or not YES. happiest outdoors and resents being in the home
• Require Sweater in Winter ? YEs. but no coat even on coldest days
• Chills begin from which part?
Fever
ï§ Temperature
ï§ Heat
ï§ Perspiration –Mostly on which part of body.
ï§ Chills
ï§ Thirst during fever.
• Active / inactive
smpwk 4 years ago
I wanted to add that he can be very manipulative with the way he deals with family members and verbally attacks people whenever he gets slightly angry and defensive. VERY defensive always. He is so loving sometimes, but can betray his family within a moment and does not have any loyalty towards the people that have raised him and loved him and given him a wonderful life if he gets angry. I don't know what to think when he seems to be so opposite sometimes. Both extremes interchangeably.
smpwk 4 years ago
Please write what foods disturb him.
Explain to him that people crave the foods they are allergic to.
Often, these food allergies do not cause too much distress till teen years.
The foods cause inflammation and irritation- and they take about 2 weeks abstinence to let the body settle down.
[Edited by simone717 on 2020-10-15 17:22:13]
Explain to him that people crave the foods they are allergic to.
Often, these food allergies do not cause too much distress till teen years.
The foods cause inflammation and irritation- and they take about 2 weeks abstinence to let the body settle down.
[Edited by simone717 on 2020-10-15 17:22:13]
♡ simone717 4 years ago
To be clear, these issues exist all of the time and just get exacerbated when he eats certain things . Some of those are chocolate or artificial colors . He still has the issues even when not eating them though
smpwk 4 years ago
FYI, unless he has gone two weeks eating none of those things,
They are in his system affecting him.
They are in his system affecting him.
♡ simone717 4 years ago
Yes I understand I am well versed in food allergies and intolerances . He has done many elimination diets and is still depressed and that is what I’m looking for help with
smpwk 4 years ago
after analysing your son case
I would suggest. give him MEDORRHINUM 200 weekly one dose i.e 4 pills once a week for 2 weeks total 2 doses
Report after 1 month
he need great amount of time. if you need to see his behaviour changes
Dr.Jitesh Sharma
I would suggest. give him MEDORRHINUM 200 weekly one dose i.e 4 pills once a week for 2 weeks total 2 doses
Report after 1 month
he need great amount of time. if you need to see his behaviour changes
Dr.Jitesh Sharma
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♡ drjitesh 4 years ago
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