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Give him one dose of 200C potency...add a little amont og glucose to the water ...so that it has a sweet taste...little bit.

After 48 hours give him a dose of Thuja 200C.

Best / Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Thank you Pankaj! Coincidentally, I ordered 200C in both Silicea and Thuja! I won't have those until sometime next week or the week after. Should I stop the 30C Silicea until then or continue giving him those doses?

When I give him the 200C of each of the above, can I just give him the pills or do I have to make another wet rememdy?

Jessica
 
luckylot1999 last decade
Keep giving the pills.
When meds come ...give pills.

Best / Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
I just thought I would let you know that so far today, the glands are the lowest they've been in 8 weeks!! They aren't gone, but veeeery close to gone! I'm sure they will swell more again before the next dose, but things are looking good!

Jessica
 
luckylot1999 last decade
gud !!
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Yesterday after he had woken up with the glands lower, we continued the doses and they seemed to swell more in the afternoon. This morning again, they were lower so I decided not to give him another dose and they are staying lower, not gone, but low. I wonder if by giving him more of the remendy we were seeing a proofing? I thought I would give him some time without the rememdy to see if his body is taking over on it's own. Although, I don't really know how long to wait for his glands to go down further, on their own. I guess if they swell more, I will continue with the rememdy again and if they stay low I will wait it out to see what happens. What do you think?

Jessica
 
luckylot1999 last decade
Are you succussing the remedy between doses? If not, the repeat dosing of same potency may be antidoting the previous dose.

You wrote: What are the odds that this is all vaccine induced, does anyone know? He had his MMR and Chickenpox vaccines about 3-4 weeks prior to the start of it all. If that is the case, how do we reverse it?

The odds are probably 100%. I responded to your other post. If Pankaj Varma's well chosen remedies don't resolve, you may want to consider treating with MMR remedy as sometimes the vaccine reaction can cause the well indicated remedies to not work. However, these things do take time and you are in good hands wtih Pankaj Varma's advice.
 
busymominme last decade
Thank you busymominme! I'm not sure I understand what it means to be 'successing the remedy between doses' as I am new to homeopathic treatments. Can you please clarify? Also, what would the MMR remedy be? Is that the Thuja as recommended by Pankaj? I will be going to the health store today when my son wakes up, so I hope to hear from you soon, in case I should pick something else up. We have run out of hte 30C Silicea. I appreciate everyone's advice!

Jessica
 
luckylot1999 last decade
Ok, busymominme I went back to my other post and found your recommendations. I assume these remedies are not available in health food stores, although I will look anyway. If not, I will order them and try them after I try the 200C of the Silicea and Vericella. My son hates taking the wet version of the remedies, but I will try my best to do it that way again too. You guys are giving me hope that this is going to get us somewhere. Oh and did you do the Thuja or Silicea rememdies before and after vaccinations to reduce side effects? Did that work for you?

Jessica
 
luckylot1999 last decade
I can't find the MMR and Vericella rememdies on this site, should I look somewhere else or is there a different name for them? I have already ordered the Thuja 200C and the Silicea 200C as suggested by Pankaj, but I would like to place an order for these as well. I also ordered a basic 50 rememdy home kit, would they be in that by chance?

Jessica
 
luckylot1999 last decade
Forget the wet dose...give the pills.

I normally do not advice wet dose etc. etc . of that kind....only you were running short of pills... so I thought that as a way out.

Best wishes
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
It appears they do not sell MMR on this site. Google for other remedy distributors. We did not do silica or thuja (although it is recommended for vaccine reactions) as we chose a constitutional remedy which most matched the symptoms. It was also years after the fact. But the MMR was necessary to clear the way for other remedies to work. You may want to read more about homeopathy and vaccine reactions at tinussmits dot com.

I know the wet dose is a bummer - no sweet taste. :( We just give it in a baby bottle so it is like a sip of water. But if you just give the dose straight as dry dose in same potency, it can antidote the good effects you have already accomplished.

I hope that helps. Good luck!
 
busymominme last decade
Dear lucky, I have just read through your post, and yes Silicea is the remedy which also sprung to mind for me. It is also of course, as mentioned, one of the main remedies we apply for bad reactions to vaccination. However, I would like to sound a note of caution regarding both potency, and the frequency of dosing being applied.

A remedy should only be given in a few doses of the same potency before moving up to the next, even when this potency is given in water, and sucussions applied between doses. These are Centesimal potencies we are applying, NOT LM's, and these simply do not tolerate so much uncontrolled, non serial dilution and sucussion. A few doses sucussed in water of a given potency is fine, but then the POTENCY itself should be slightly increased. I would also sound a note of caution on the frequency of the doses being applied. The dose should be given ONCE, and then a reaction waited for, if you re-apply the remedy before this occurs your son will never have a chance to react to the remedy. Slowly is the best policy. One last thing, I would not just rush in and apply Thuja or other remedies, unless there are some very good indications to do so. There are actually 9 remedies which are used in the treatment of vaccinosis, and any one of these may be indicated after Silicea has brought as much relief as it is able, if indeed any further treatment for this condition is required at all. Thuja is one of the strongest remedies in our entire materia medica, and not something I would apply without good knowledge of its indications.

In closing, Silicea is working, do not change the remedy while this is the case, or apply any others at the same time. simply stick to this one remedy, in gradually ascending potencies until it no longer provides any benefit, or begins to aggravate the condition, then stop, leave things to settle for a little while. Then look at the symptoms again before selecting another remedy. I have treated many cases of vaccination, and have also had to sort out a number where the bad prescribing methods of other practitioners has actually ended up doing more harm than good.

Oh, and P.S Do NOT give Mercurius after dosing with Silicea, as was suggested at some point above, as these two remedies are highly inimical to eachother, and the aggravation can be appaling, and more often than not requires antidoting.

Good luck ;)
 
Hahnemania last decade
There are many lines of thought in Homeopathy ....like in :

In Christianity...Catholic and Protestant

In Muslim....Shia and Sunni

In Hinduism...Sanatam Dharam and Arya Samaj

....in homeopathy Classical and non- Classical !!!!

Best wishes,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Hahnemania - I appreciate the additional input, as I know something that works for one may not work for another. I know the Silicea was a good remedy as it was providing small glandular response and my son is very head strong, as inidcated by the materia medica. I've begun to take my cues from my son's symptoms and have been reducing the dosage to one or two times a day, only when his symptoms reappear. I have been waiting for that to occur. I've noticed that his glandular swelling is reappearing less frequently, so I assume this is a good sign? His glands are always still swollen, but not as large as they have been in the past. Also, I'm noticing more relief in the cervical gland versus the inguinal, is that because homeopathic remedies work from the head down?

I am waiting for Silicea 200C to be delivered, so should I wait until I have that and stop giving the 30C potency in the meantime? Also, should I invest in the next potencies beyond 200c, how long should one wait before increasing the potency again? I know that I will only give one dose of the 200C and then wait, but for how long? I would like to plan ahead so that I can order the next potencies if you think that might be necessary. I don't have access to the higher potencies without ordering online so it will take some time to get them.

I had also read that Mercurius should not be given after Silicea, I'm not sure where, as I have read lots and lots so far, ha ha. Thank you for this word of caution though.

So, I will stick with the Silicea, and if you think it might be necessary, I will also buy additional potencies for use after the 200C. Please advise if you have any other suggestions, I am very grateful! Oh and what is your take on the pre-vaccination remedies out there? I know that Silicea is one of the recommended pre and post vaccination remedies, but I've also found remedies in the exact vaccine being injected, ie - MMR rememdy. Do you have any experience with these? I'm considering a purchase prior to his next set of vaccinations.

Thanks again everyone, I am really appreciative of the support and advice, I truly feel like we are getting somewhere, although VERY slowly. My fingers (and toes) are crossed for the 200c potency...

Jessica
 
luckylot1999 last decade
Pankaj - You are absolutely right! I am willing to hear the thoughts on all possibilities in order to resolve my son's ailments. Since I don't have a classical or non-classical approach, as I am new to this, I am interested in what will work at this point. As I read more about the remedies, I'm sure I too will develop a personal favorite style. Your advice has been priceless to me and I have taken your recommendations and then altered them slightly based on my son's response to the remedy. But at this point, I think the only solution is to try the next potency, as you had previously recommended. His glands still respond to the Silicea, but not nearly enough for complete resolution. In addition to the 200c, I have gone and ordered the 1M and 10M to follow-up with. How long should I give between each single dose of these potencies?

I hope everyone realizes that I am not taking sides in any way as I know there are many ways to approach this type of treatment. Instead, I want all of your opinions from which to derive at the right solution for my son! Thanks a bunch for being so patient with me!

Jessica
 
luckylot1999 last decade
I just checked on my order and it appears that the Silicea 200c has not even shipped yet. Am I better off continuing with the 30c doses until I get it or stopping this remedy until then?? By repeating the doses, am I antidoting it? I've still been using the wet remedy, in a baby bottle as recommended by busymominme earlier. But I am only giving him this dose twice a day. What should I do until I have the 200c remedy in hand?

Jessica
 
luckylot1999 last decade
Jessica,
the rule is :

If one potency is giving benefit...continue with it until it stops giving benefit...then move to the next higher.

The second rule is:
Repeat the dose when the benefit of the previous dose is over...in your case ..as soon as you see the glands swelling up again...give anotehr dose of 30C.
Best wishes,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Thanks again! It seems as though the 30c is still providing benefit, but only very little, so I will continue to give these doses when the swelling appears to be higher. Then when the 200C arrives, I will give one dose and wait until the swelling resumes if at all, at that point, I may have already received the 1M and 10M should they be necessary. Does that sound approriate?

Jessica
 
luckylot1999 last decade
Jessica,
You are receiving good advice so I will not complicate matters further. Please give serious consideration as to whether you will continue vaccinations.

P.S. Wet dosing was the preferred method of dosing of Hahnemann as explained in the 6th edition of the Organon (his book detailing the principles of homeopathy and its practice). Much of this information was lost for many years but recently discovered and is just now being put into practice more readily. Hahnemann believed the water dosing to bring a quicker, gentler, and permanent cure.
 
busymominme last decade
I've noticed the wet remedy to give better results too actually. Now that I have put it into a bottle and put a tiny bit of organic sugar in it, he's taking it better. When I receive the 200C, should I do a wet remedy of that also and if so, how do I mix it, as I know it's only one dose I give him.

Unfortunately, I am somewhere in the middle on vaccinations. I do believe they are a necessary part of growing up, although, I believe I would like to treat with remedies pre and post vaccine to reduce any side effects. I also want to steer clear of anything with thermisol. I plan to discuss this with my son's pediatrician when it's flu shot time, I don't want the shot if it has thermisol in it. There is a new gentler version given through the mouth or as a nasal spray or similar. I plan to request that.

Jessica
 
luckylot1999 last decade
I also posted a separate post on this, because I am looking for a quick response....I received the 1M and 10M potencies of Silicea in the mail today. The 200c is from another supplier and is on back order. Would it be a bad idea to give him the 1M and skip the 200c or should I wait until I get the 200c and continue with the 30c for the time being?

Jessica
 
luckylot1999 last decade
Anyone?
 
luckylot1999 last decade
Yes just give one dose of 1M...not more at all.

Keep watching progress and post feed back.
Best / Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
For child it is half dose...just two pills....or one drop in two table spoons of water.
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Is it ok to give this dose after already having given the 30c this morning?

Jessica
 
luckylot1999 last decade

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