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So far, since he's woken from his nap, his glands have stayed very low. The cervical is now lower than the inguinal gland. He has also had a couple of loose stools.
Jessica
Jessica
luckylot1999 last decade
Yes, on this one. His molars are coming in. One is through the skin, three are still coming through.
Tonight his cervical gland seemed to swell just slightly again. But it stayed small most of the day. Is that expected?
Jessica
Tonight his cervical gland seemed to swell just slightly again. But it stayed small most of the day. Is that expected?
Jessica
luckylot1999 last decade
The loose stools are due to teething.
Your first child ???
Don't repeat any medicine.
One dose Thuja can work upto 3 week.
Pankaj Varma
Your first child ???
Don't repeat any medicine.
One dose Thuja can work upto 3 week.
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Post everything together on one thread....here !!
Have to analyse the 'total picture of the patient'.
Have to analyse the 'total picture of the patient'.
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Ok, here it is again from the beginning, I will make it easy to follow with bullet pointss:
First week of July - MMR and Vericella vaccines.
First week of August - One swollen inguinal gland (groin) appears with no other symptoms.
Two days later, a rash starts - pimple-like and it recycled over his body for a week. He did not appear itchy or even effected by any of it.
The second gland shows up on his neck (cervical gland) after the rash goes away. It is smaller than the inguinal gland.
Fever for four days at about 102 degrees F.
During the fever, his eyelid and the skin surround one eye swells. The outside crease is red and irritated. There is some clear discharge with some intermittent green discharge. This only effects one eye, his left. This lasts two days.
At the end of the fever, the same day it breaks, he gets hives for three days. Benadryl clears them up immediately every time and they lessen each day.
At his follow-up appointment, his ears show the start of an infection and his tonsils are swollen.
He takes Omnicef for 10 days, the glands respond well, the ear infection goes away and the tonsils reduce. After the antibiotics, the two glands swell again.
All symptoms are gone with the exception of the two swollen glands.
Some time during all of this, he is teething, gets two bottom, one on either side of the central insicors and starts getting molars, one comes through and three others are still coming in.
Through most of the illness, he is still happy, but clingy and whiny at times. He continues to eat well, never rejecting food or milk. He smiles easily, is happy, but shows signs of just being warn down. He is often better after sleeping, in the mornings and after naps. He is worse when hungry or tired. Tylenol and Motrin helps a little bit, but not entirely.
Let me know if you need anything else.
Jessica
First week of July - MMR and Vericella vaccines.
First week of August - One swollen inguinal gland (groin) appears with no other symptoms.
Two days later, a rash starts - pimple-like and it recycled over his body for a week. He did not appear itchy or even effected by any of it.
The second gland shows up on his neck (cervical gland) after the rash goes away. It is smaller than the inguinal gland.
Fever for four days at about 102 degrees F.
During the fever, his eyelid and the skin surround one eye swells. The outside crease is red and irritated. There is some clear discharge with some intermittent green discharge. This only effects one eye, his left. This lasts two days.
At the end of the fever, the same day it breaks, he gets hives for three days. Benadryl clears them up immediately every time and they lessen each day.
At his follow-up appointment, his ears show the start of an infection and his tonsils are swollen.
He takes Omnicef for 10 days, the glands respond well, the ear infection goes away and the tonsils reduce. After the antibiotics, the two glands swell again.
All symptoms are gone with the exception of the two swollen glands.
Some time during all of this, he is teething, gets two bottom, one on either side of the central insicors and starts getting molars, one comes through and three others are still coming in.
Through most of the illness, he is still happy, but clingy and whiny at times. He continues to eat well, never rejecting food or milk. He smiles easily, is happy, but shows signs of just being warn down. He is often better after sleeping, in the mornings and after naps. He is worse when hungry or tired. Tylenol and Motrin helps a little bit, but not entirely.
Let me know if you need anything else.
Jessica
luckylot1999 last decade
Pankaj VArma wrote:
'Real' Homeopathy / 'True' Homeopathy....great claims to self - appreciation!!!!
Not self-appreciation at all, I have no interest in such things, my only interest is Homoeopathy and the actual CURE (rather than mere palliation) of the patient, something which cannot be achieved by the non-classical approach, except of course as occurs ocassionally by accident.
'Instead of wasting time in debates...do some homeopathic work....many un-answered querries are there every day from people.'
I do not consider such debate a waste of time, merely education for those who are not practicing true Homoeopathy, and I do work thankyou, I have my own practice, but I will not recommend remedies in a manner which I KNOW will be detrimental to the patient in the long run, just to achieve a short term 'good result' to bolster my own sense of accomplishment, as seems to be the approach here.
'Real' Homeopathy / 'True' Homeopathy....great claims to self - appreciation!!!!
Not self-appreciation at all, I have no interest in such things, my only interest is Homoeopathy and the actual CURE (rather than mere palliation) of the patient, something which cannot be achieved by the non-classical approach, except of course as occurs ocassionally by accident.
'Instead of wasting time in debates...do some homeopathic work....many un-answered querries are there every day from people.'
I do not consider such debate a waste of time, merely education for those who are not practicing true Homoeopathy, and I do work thankyou, I have my own practice, but I will not recommend remedies in a manner which I KNOW will be detrimental to the patient in the long run, just to achieve a short term 'good result' to bolster my own sense of accomplishment, as seems to be the approach here.
Hahnemania last decade
Lucky wrote: 'So now I am thoroughly confused. I have already given the Silicea 1M with very little response from the glands. They did go down, then went back up within 24 hours.'
If you have gone from a 30c to a 1M and there has been no further improvement from this increase, then either Silicea has outlived it's benefit as an anti-vaccinosis remedy, or there is something blocking it's full action, perhaps the need to apply the individual vaccinations in potency, as nosodes. However of course you have already abandoned the remedy and switched to another, so you may never know.
I will exit this discussion now as recommendations are being given, and remedies are being switched at far too great a pace for proper assessment of the situation, and this simply cnnot be done when treating a chronic condition. As stated before, you will only cure your son by a more relaxed and stable approach, but this is of course your choice.
One further comment though, Thuja is NOT the 'head remedy' for vaccination problems, as stated by someone else, it is the head remedy in THUJA type reactions to vaccination. Each individual case should be taken as just that, an individual case, and where one remedy will bring releif in some, it may be a COMPLETELY different remedy which provides this in others. There are NINE remedies listed for the treatment of vaccinosis, all of which I have used in the sucessful treatment of this condition.
I would also again advise caution of the long term application of Thuja, as it is one of the deepest acting of all our remedies, and playing around with it can cause some very severe constitutional disturbances indeed.
I wish you well in the treatment of your son.
If you have gone from a 30c to a 1M and there has been no further improvement from this increase, then either Silicea has outlived it's benefit as an anti-vaccinosis remedy, or there is something blocking it's full action, perhaps the need to apply the individual vaccinations in potency, as nosodes. However of course you have already abandoned the remedy and switched to another, so you may never know.
I will exit this discussion now as recommendations are being given, and remedies are being switched at far too great a pace for proper assessment of the situation, and this simply cnnot be done when treating a chronic condition. As stated before, you will only cure your son by a more relaxed and stable approach, but this is of course your choice.
One further comment though, Thuja is NOT the 'head remedy' for vaccination problems, as stated by someone else, it is the head remedy in THUJA type reactions to vaccination. Each individual case should be taken as just that, an individual case, and where one remedy will bring releif in some, it may be a COMPLETELY different remedy which provides this in others. There are NINE remedies listed for the treatment of vaccinosis, all of which I have used in the sucessful treatment of this condition.
I would also again advise caution of the long term application of Thuja, as it is one of the deepest acting of all our remedies, and playing around with it can cause some very severe constitutional disturbances indeed.
I wish you well in the treatment of your son.
Hahnemania last decade
Great Lecture ...but in vain !!
This is what you suggested to Uzma...a High BP patient.
You said stop all medication and try only one homeoapthic med.
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P.S Yes Nux vomica also covers a lot of your present symptoms, is a related remedy, and often indicated in cases where many drugs have been used, but this is only an acute remedy, and therefore would not treat the underlying condition for which you originally sought treatment. My advice would therefore be to try Nux first, and if in gradually asending potencies this provides only superficial relief, as I think it will, then apply the Pulsatilla, which should cure the condition completely. It would be MUCH easier if you could stop your current medication before treatment, and to ascertain how much of your symptomologyis being caused by these, but of course this needs to be carried out under strict supervision, which none of us here are able to provide.
Good luck.
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If you are suggesting to a High BP patient to stop all other meds without stablising him /her with a homeopathic med...is gross danger for the patient.
See thread 'depression'.
Why don't you say...you are trying to garner people for your practice.
Pankaj Varma
This is what you suggested to Uzma...a High BP patient.
You said stop all medication and try only one homeoapthic med.
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P.S Yes Nux vomica also covers a lot of your present symptoms, is a related remedy, and often indicated in cases where many drugs have been used, but this is only an acute remedy, and therefore would not treat the underlying condition for which you originally sought treatment. My advice would therefore be to try Nux first, and if in gradually asending potencies this provides only superficial relief, as I think it will, then apply the Pulsatilla, which should cure the condition completely. It would be MUCH easier if you could stop your current medication before treatment, and to ascertain how much of your symptomologyis being caused by these, but of course this needs to be carried out under strict supervision, which none of us here are able to provide.
Good luck.
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If you are suggesting to a High BP patient to stop all other meds without stablising him /her with a homeopathic med...is gross danger for the patient.
See thread 'depression'.
Why don't you say...you are trying to garner people for your practice.
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
QUOTE: 'It would be MUCH easier if you could stop your current medication before treatment, and to ascertain how much of your symptomology is being caused by these, but of course this needs to be carried out under strict supervision, which none of us here are able to provide.< CLOSE UNDERLINE>
It was not a suggestion to do so, merely an assertion of how treatment would be carried out in an ideal situation, UNDER OBSERVATION. I also state that none of us here are able to do this, so is it not implied that this should not be done?
Maybe you would do well to actually READ a post before sounding off.
'Why don't you say...you are trying to garner people for your practice.'
Heh, really. I have no desire nor need to draw people into my practice, I have a very sucessful practice in REAL life, where I practice REAL Homoeopathy, not just that based on very little knowledge of the subject :), and I have also treated a number of cases of high blood pressure in the way outlined above, i.e by following up the removal of drugs with the appropriate Homomeopathic remedy, under the observation of allopathic practitioners, with whom I frequently work. How many cases of high BP have you actually cured? I thought not ;)
Anyway, I have no desire or need to indulge in discourse of a personal nature, Homoeopathy is about cure of the patient, not personal diatribe and mudslinging, and I am sorry you feel the need to indulge in the latter, but you will do so without my participation.
Good luck with your...'practice' ;)
It was not a suggestion to do so, merely an assertion of how treatment would be carried out in an ideal situation, UNDER OBSERVATION. I also state that none of us here are able to do this, so is it not implied that this should not be done?
Maybe you would do well to actually READ a post before sounding off.
'Why don't you say...you are trying to garner people for your practice.'
Heh, really. I have no desire nor need to draw people into my practice, I have a very sucessful practice in REAL life, where I practice REAL Homoeopathy, not just that based on very little knowledge of the subject :), and I have also treated a number of cases of high blood pressure in the way outlined above, i.e by following up the removal of drugs with the appropriate Homomeopathic remedy, under the observation of allopathic practitioners, with whom I frequently work. How many cases of high BP have you actually cured? I thought not ;)
Anyway, I have no desire or need to indulge in discourse of a personal nature, Homoeopathy is about cure of the patient, not personal diatribe and mudslinging, and I am sorry you feel the need to indulge in the latter, but you will do so without my participation.
Good luck with your...'practice' ;)
Hahnemania last decade
I have been posting here on ABC Forum since 2003.
Not a single individual can say that I have approached him / her to further my practice...becoz I don't have a practice...as I travel frequently for my business (which is not connected to homeopathy).
There are many help seekers who send me e-mails seeking my address...I have never given my address to any help seeker who has e-mailed to me after knowing me through ABC Forum.
Better gather proper facts before making insinuations.
Pankaj Varma
Not a single individual can say that I have approached him / her to further my practice...becoz I don't have a practice...as I travel frequently for my business (which is not connected to homeopathy).
There are many help seekers who send me e-mails seeking my address...I have never given my address to any help seeker who has e-mailed to me after knowing me through ABC Forum.
Better gather proper facts before making insinuations.
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Um, I wasn't accusing you of, or insinuating anything. I was mereley quoting the accusation YOU made about MY reason for posting:
COMMENT MADE BY YOU, TO ME: 'Why don't you say...you are trying to garner people for your practice.'
I hope this clears up your obvious confusion, and would again suggest reading my comments carefully before reacting...
COMMENT MADE BY YOU, TO ME: 'Why don't you say...you are trying to garner people for your practice.'
I hope this clears up your obvious confusion, and would again suggest reading my comments carefully before reacting...
Hahnemania last decade
If you are referring to my 'insinuation' that you have a practice, then I do not see this as such, as I PRESUMED, as most people would, that you were a practicing Homoeopath, given your prediliction to comment on other peoples methods, is this not the case?
Hahnemania last decade
Ok, this is unreal! You two are wasting my time and my dear son's health arguing over who has better morals and values homeopathically. All I can say about this, from a completely unbiased position is that Pankaj has at least offered some advice. Hahnemania - You continue to tell me there are nine remedies and that you have been successful in treating symptoms such as these, so why have you not offered any contradictory advice, if there need be?
My only goal in writing here is to treat my son, I NEED to know what that means and I am willing to try whatever suggestions are offered, as I have no other experience. If you think he is being harmed, why would you say that and not offer anything else?
This seems to be a trend on this site, you two arguing like children. I DON'T CARE HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT EACH OTHER! I need to know how to aid in my son's recovery from something which I do not entirely understand. I am seeking help and I am feeling very much confused by this battle!
Now, does anyone have some HELPFUL advice for ME, not each other? Can we stick to the issue at hand? I will continue to post updates on him, my son, remember him, the reason we have this thread in the first place?! If anyone would like to offer constructive advice, I am willing to listen, but please do not tell me how wrong I am in my treatment of him, without offering a sugggestion to remedy that!
Jessica
My only goal in writing here is to treat my son, I NEED to know what that means and I am willing to try whatever suggestions are offered, as I have no other experience. If you think he is being harmed, why would you say that and not offer anything else?
This seems to be a trend on this site, you two arguing like children. I DON'T CARE HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT EACH OTHER! I need to know how to aid in my son's recovery from something which I do not entirely understand. I am seeking help and I am feeling very much confused by this battle!
Now, does anyone have some HELPFUL advice for ME, not each other? Can we stick to the issue at hand? I will continue to post updates on him, my son, remember him, the reason we have this thread in the first place?! If anyone would like to offer constructive advice, I am willing to listen, but please do not tell me how wrong I am in my treatment of him, without offering a sugggestion to remedy that!
Jessica
luckylot1999 last decade
Upon waking today, the glands are still swollen, but not as large as they were in the beginning of all of this. I believe that they were lower yesterday though.
Jessica
Jessica
luckylot1999 last decade
As we move on with the day, he seems more easily aggitated than usual. His mood is slightly agressive and he isn't able to focus on any one thing for very long.
Jessica
Jessica
luckylot1999 last decade
Jessica,
That is more because of teething..babies do like that ...when they approach teething.
I could have suggested a Bichemic med for that ...but people 'howling and screaming' at me ..I am refraining from doing so !!
You can go to Archives and find out suggestions for teething babies.
Pankaj Varma
That is more because of teething..babies do like that ...when they approach teething.
I could have suggested a Bichemic med for that ...but people 'howling and screaming' at me ..I am refraining from doing so !!
You can go to Archives and find out suggestions for teething babies.
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
I am aware of the possible symptoms of teething, but since I also don't know what I am to expect from the Thuja dose, I am updating with everything that is happening to him.
What about the swollen glands?
Jessica
What about the swollen glands?
Jessica
luckylot1999 last decade
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
oh ok. So it is expected to see the glands go down and then back up again? Even if the remedy is working?
Jessica
Jessica
luckylot1999 last decade
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Well, it hs been four days since giving the Thuja 200c and his glands are still swollen. I am planning to wait a week to see how he does, then order the MMR remedy, which should give us at least another week without any remedies given.
Jessica
Jessica
luckylot1999 last decade
Dear Lucky.
Um I gave my advice some time ago, but you chose to ignore this and pursue administering 66867575 unindicated remedies instead. I cannot force you to follow my reccomendations.
Also, it wasn't actually me who begun the above debate by mudslinging, so I would thakyou to be aware of this before drawing me into your 'reprimands'.
Good luck with your son.
Um I gave my advice some time ago, but you chose to ignore this and pursue administering 66867575 unindicated remedies instead. I cannot force you to follow my reccomendations.
Also, it wasn't actually me who begun the above debate by mudslinging, so I would thakyou to be aware of this before drawing me into your 'reprimands'.
Good luck with your son.
Hahnemania last decade
Hahnemania - I don't care to join in the arguments, but I do want to point out simply that I did not ignore your comments, but instead, had gotten your comments too late. I had already given the Silicea 1M (which I stated in a subsequent post) when your advice was given. Also, I did not give the 30c again, as you had advised. Is there something else that I should have followed that you have advised?
I am at the mercy of the timing of posts here and with the lack of knowledge I am also at the mercy of the experience of the people providing the advise. I ask you to consider this when suggesting that someone is ignoring your advice and then proceed with telling them what not to do and not following up with a solution. You seem to take much of what is said here very personal and it is not a personal choice on my part, that I like one person more than the other, it's merely a matter of timing and I have addressed each offer of suggestion accordingly, but can not help when someone contradicts the only available suggestion and it is too late. It only causes confusion for someone like me who has no experience in homeopathics. I want to learn more and I understand that this is a trial and error for someone like me, but please don't make me feel like I am choosing to contradict your advice and then punish me with no further advice as your course of ramification.
Enough said. Thanks for listening.
Jessica
I am at the mercy of the timing of posts here and with the lack of knowledge I am also at the mercy of the experience of the people providing the advise. I ask you to consider this when suggesting that someone is ignoring your advice and then proceed with telling them what not to do and not following up with a solution. You seem to take much of what is said here very personal and it is not a personal choice on my part, that I like one person more than the other, it's merely a matter of timing and I have addressed each offer of suggestion accordingly, but can not help when someone contradicts the only available suggestion and it is too late. It only causes confusion for someone like me who has no experience in homeopathics. I want to learn more and I understand that this is a trial and error for someone like me, but please don't make me feel like I am choosing to contradict your advice and then punish me with no further advice as your course of ramification.
Enough said. Thanks for listening.
Jessica
luckylot1999 last decade
Dear lucky, this is was not what I was trying to convey by my post above, I have not taken anything personally, and am quite happy to help with your sons treatment. My point is, that you can only folow the suggestions of one Homoeopath at a time, as if you are applying remedies suggested by more than one source, the case will simply become confused and you will never achieve anything, and as you seemed to be following another route, I was simply stepping out of the picture. If however, you feel nothing is working, then I am happy to take up the case, but as stated, I could only do this in a complete manner, and with you following only my advice.
Best wishes.
Best wishes.
Hahnemania last decade
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