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A study of Rhus toxicodendron (Poison Ivy)

I am starting this new post based upon my personal experiences with Rhus Toxicodendron.

Plant grows all over in USA, Canada and Europe. Very toxic in spring and autumn but still very toxic at all times.

It grows on himalayas but is not potent at all. On the other hand Urticaria uranus on the himalayas is most potent than anywhere else in the world.

Thread would continue. All are welcome to contribute and share.

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  kuldeep on 2006-10-31
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
The picture looks of some kind of Mango plant leaves.

Are you sure this is Rhus Tox.

Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
 
Nesha-India last decade
Definitely poison ivy! (My nemesis!)

I purchased this paperback guide to homeopathic treatment of poison ivy: Homeopathic Handbook for Poison Ivy and Poison Oak
By Joel KREISBERG. Fortunately, I have had no occasion to test it out.
 
Daisy43 last decade
Ms. India, this plant should be respected. Make sure to know a mango tree better so not to confuse with this one.

This is vicious and action is unpredictable.

On the other hand urticaria uranus is vicious too but is much predictable.

Homeopathically also Rhus T.'s action is not predictable but very potent but urticaria uranus's action is predictable but not that potent.
 
kuldeep last decade
Urtica Uranus

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kuldeep last decade
Rhus Toxicodendron action:

But it is never predictable. Can manifest it in any other way.

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kuldeep last decade
Typica Urtica exposure. Always this happenes. No matter if one is exposed once or ten times.

On the other hand Rhus Tox. Exposure is no necessary always same. Today exposure may show effect after a week. Or may in in any other dimension.

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kuldeep last decade
kuldeep bhayya,

All the above symptoms can be easily aborted with a single dose of Aconite-30, (other medicines are Bell, Apis, Trant, NM ...) when in the initial stages. There are other alternative options also to easily set-off the above symptoms.

There are over 800 mango plant species / variety's, and few mango tree leaves do resemble the leaves under the initial post / question


Photographs can be deceptive and misleading. I presume you are some sort of a retired mech. engineer by profession and you are NOT a authority NOR institutionally qualified appropriately to identify such macro-level technicalties SUCH as 'botany, genetics, pathology, taxonomy, and plant molecular biology'

Scanning / pasting / Quoting from a picture book for self-satisfaction as a hobby / passion is one thing but spreading it as a half-cooked medical knowledge on a health related website is another thing. Understanding the Anatomy of botany is the domain of a appropriate & institutionally qualfified professional. A non-technical-non-medical lay-person is not equipped to understand the anatomy of botany of plants.

To understand such 'PLANT PHYSIOLOGY' or to identify such specific plants / herbs, you need to atleast be a Plant Biologist / Plant Technologist. You are neither. Kindly confim, if you are.

Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
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Nesha-India last decade
All google images show this as Rhus tox.

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gavinimurthy last decade
another picture.

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gavinimurthy last decade
The first picture posted by Kuldeep doesn't seem to be Rhustox.

May we have the benefit of the original url,from which this picture is taken?

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
'Murthy' :

Kuldeep's first picture, certainly does NOT look like a Rhus Tox plant picture. Only a physical examination can actually determine the truth. Till then show THAT plant and say THIS is RhusTox plant.

The Plant Biologist's / Plant Technologist's, are beating their head at the RhusTox photograph. Hope the original url you requested does not get diverted to his own website url. Eat the cake and have it to.

have you heard this : I know you know I know & you know I know you know.

Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
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Nesha-India last decade
Dear Neshaindia and Mr. Murthy.

It appears that you both never visited the places where Rhus Tox. and Urtica grow. It grows in the wilderness on USA/Canada?Europe and Himalayas.

Two people who never saw this plant are telling to a person who saw it.

This thread is for peole like you who never saw it. Stay away from both plants dear, since you never saw it so see it from the picture I supplied. For your protection.
 
kuldeep last decade
Rhus Tox. Eczema.

Notice the white flakes. Itchy in the summer and flaky and itchy in the winter. Sking is not oozing yet.

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kuldeep last decade
I am a biologist and an expert in the identification of Poison Ivy. ;^)

It can take many forms. The first picture is definitely a picture of Poison Ivy.
 
Daisy43 last decade
If you do a google 'images' search on 'poison ivy', the first picture shows up for me on page 2.
 
Daisy43 last decade
Daisy, you may have a poison ivy story to tell. People who live around Rhus Tox. always respect this plant.

When settlers were coming to USA, natives informed them about this plant.

This picture shows the plant in its most vicious mood.

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kuldeep last decade
Kuldeep' bhayya,

If YOU will think, that Nesha-India, hasn't seen a RhusTox plant, does it really mean that I have not seen and touched the plant. Avoid hallucinating.

You will find plenty of RhusTox plants in 'chalguddi-trichuy' area of Kerala and at several areas bordering Bihar-U.P. (India).

You will also find physical RhusTox plant specimens at the Govt. Homeopathic college at VileParle-Mumbai.

The scalp photograph you projected as eczema would also be psorasis or S.D., if you understand dermatology.

REPEAT QUESTION TO YOU :

To understand such 'PLANT PHYSIOLOGY' or to identify such specific plants / herbs, you need to atleast be a Plant Biologist / Plant Technologist. You are neither. Kindly confim, if you are.

Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
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Nesha-India last decade
Dear Ms. India, you are the biggest talent I ever worked with.


BUT

'You will find plenty of RhusTox plants in 'chalguddi-trichuy' area of Kerala and at several areas bordering Bihar-U.P. (India).'
NOT TRUE. Plant does not grow in Kerala or UP/Bihar.

Yes it grows in Uttranchal, that was a part of UP few years ago.
 
kuldeep last decade
So people can identy psoriasis and eczema.

Plaque psoriasis- Approximately 80% of people with psoriasis have plaque psoriasis. Typically, it is characterised by plaques on the elbows, knees, scalp and lower back, but it can be found on any area of the skin. Each plaque usually looks like a red raised patch with overlying flaky white scaly surface that feels rough. The plaques are well defined, single or multiple, and vary in size (a few mm's to several cm's)

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kuldeep last decade
kuldeep said: 'People who live around Rhus Tox. always respect this plant.'

Apparently some people have a natural immunity to the plant. We call those people 'aliens'! LOL

I am very allergic to poison ivy, so I have come to recognize in all possible plant forms, with or without leaves. However, poison ivy is devious and can take on many disguises. For instance, it can disguise itself as the neighbor's dog who has just run through a poison ivy patch. Then I am less capable of recognizing it.
 
Daisy43 last decade
Daisy you have touched the sole goal of this post.

Rhus Tox. is not predictable. If it hurts you real bad and next time you won't feel anything but then it comes like an eczema.

Dry flakes on the skin is the cheif indication.

Raw surface but no itching is also an indiation.

Also to note that eczema must be on the exposed surface. Never saw a case where eczema was on the covered part.
 
kuldeep last decade
rhustox is a very good medicine for voluptuous itching of the scrotum,better by application of hot water.

I am yet to see a patient not benefitted by it,who has this problem with this modality.

I think the scrotum is always covered.!!

murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Exactly, exactly Gavin. It covers itchings. That's why I compared it with Urtica. Otherwise there was no need.

Probably you read in the book that Rhus is best medicine for itching of the scrotum. Of-course, of-course itching and Rhus Tox. go together like Batman and Robin.

BUT Gavini

Look at the opening statement of this thread:

'I am starting this new post based upon my personal experiences with Rhus Toxicodendron."

Here is something new and fresh from my experiences.
 
kuldeep last decade
I read it in the books,and used myself and for many patients too. : )

Yes. I understood the purpose of this thread.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Several companies which make homeopathic remedies sell low potency Rhus Tox as a preventative against poison ivy. Some remedies are Rhus Tox only and some are combination remedies. It's often recommended that a tablet be taken daily when the danger of exposure is high, and that those who work outdoors such as utility workers could especially benefit from the preventative doses.

Does anyone know if low potency Rhus Tox can be used successfully to prevent development of poison ivy symptoms in those exposed to the plant?
 
Will88 last decade

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